SBF Silverwings / HOM Cafe 2012

[whyzee]

Atlantic will check-out on 17 Jan (Tue).

If going with me, then collect the card from him in SG on 18th (wed).

The room is booked till 21st Jan (Sat).

 

Genting 19 Jan to 21 Jan 2012 (Thu to Sat).

 

Overlooked my schedule, can't go le... Got 3 classes on Friday, so, that's it liao, can't go on Friday..... ugh. Friday is out for riding til May.. (except Songkran).

[Scarab]

Atlantic will check-out on 17 Jan (Tue).

If going with me, then collect the card from him in SG on 18th (wed).

The room is booked till 21st Jan (Sat).

 

Genting 19 Jan to 21 Jan 2012 (Thu to Sat).

DAY 1:

8am - I will leave GP Esso.

9am - reached Yong Peng for Breakfast (till 9.45am).

11.15am - Seremban RSA for petrol.

Arrival Genting (102km) at 12.45pm.

Activities: OTOT- movies, swim (hot pool?), makan, pubs, gamble...

 

DAY 2 (Optional. Can follow me if you want):

8.30am - Breakfast.

9.30am - Leave for Fraser Hill (81km). *11am for ascending (1-way traffic).

1pm - Leave for Bukit Tinggi: Colmar Tropicale & Japanese garden **Might substitute it with Lao Zi Temple in Kuantan... but 238km away.

3pm - Leave for Genting

 

Day 3:

8am - Breakfast

9am - Check out.

10am - Batu Cave.

12.30 noon - Ayer Keroh A & W

3.30pm - Sutera massage.

7pm - Dinner

 

Wow...you're making up the months of non-riding huh...

[SW9000]

Overlooked my schedule, can't go le... Got 3 classes on Friday, so, that's it liao, can't go on Friday..... ugh. Friday is out for riding til May.. (except Songkran).

 

Alternatively, you can also go on Tuesday (meet Atlantic at Genting or halfway) then come back on Thursday loh.

[whyzee]

Alternatively, you can also go on Tuesday (meet Atlantic at Genting or halfway) then come back on Thursday loh.

 

hmm. will see how. discuss tomorrow.

[whyzee]

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[E GREAT1]

Hi guys... today i jus book n appointment wif boon siew to service my bike... I kay siao ask them if they use the engine oil for transmission change.. but they told me cannot ?___? they say they using 10w30 gear oil... n they told me if i don follow this den next time my gear gt any problem the warranty wont cover... N for the EO, transmission oil n oil filter will cost me $87!! Any 1 of u when to boon siew b4? Can any 1 advise me?

[SW9000]

Hi guys... today i jus book n appointment wif boon siew to service my bike... I kay siao ask them if they use the engine oil for transmission change.. but they told me cannot ?___? they say they using 10w30 gear oil... n they told me if i don follow this den next time my gear gt any problem the warranty wont cover... N for the EO, transmission oil n oil filter will cost me $87!! Any 1 of u when to boon siew b4? Can any 1 advise me?

 

Well, they have many bikes and many manuals to read, so may not be familiar with some details for each bike.

Most mech will follow their past knowledge of using gear oil for gears. Sounds correct and safe, right?

But we (most of us) stand by our own 'eyes' and tried and tested experiences too. Follow manual where can go wrong?

Some may disagree with me because sometimes gear oil don't seem to have any problem in local riding.

 

In my opinion, gear oil may be ok for local riding but never a good choice when prolonged distance riding overseas.

Anyway, each his own so ultimately it is still owner's decision.

 

As for Boon Siew's service cost... eventhough they waived service charges (for new bikes), you will still have to pay for other essentials. The cost is similar if done at other bike shops (around 3x EO $69 and oil filter $18).

Once the service charge kick in... butt tear will occur.

[scoobydoo]

the mechs there may call it gear oil or whatever, but the 10w30 motor oil they use should be a SAE multi-grade engine oil and not SAE gear oil... there is no 10w30 multi-grade gear oil under the SAE grade system.

see the SAE table below under the Gear Oil column.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/visc.jpg

 

In my opinion, gear oil may be ok for local riding but never a good choice when prolonged distance riding overseas.

Anyway, each his own so ultimately it is still owner's decision.

i share the same opinion.

 

as for whether $87 is expensive for engine oil and oil filter change, it very much depends on what oil is used. suppose BS is still using Castrol Power RS 4T as default oil, then i'ld say its on the expensive side... 2.6L x around $18/bott, you work the sums. if they use motul 300v (fat hope), then its a very good price.

like SW9000 said, if add on labour charge... standby to be chai tow

 

is a plate of $25 seafood fried rice with basmati rice, abalone, lobster, fresh fish and oysters considered more expensive than a plate of $2.50 fried rice with nothing but an egg?

to many, its all about what you get for the price paid

Edited January 4, 2012 by scoobydoo

[E GREAT1]

Hai.. lik tt how lei.. I wanna use eo.. but they dun allow.. n if I dun follow they say anything happen to gear box no warranty covered -_- lik tt also must follow them... kns.. they say I can visit other bike shop which they authorized lik asp or mah... but when I went to asp xxxxxx ( dun wanna mention ) spoke to one of e mech.. n sad to hear he don't know wad transmission oil is -_-" so I scare lo.. Tts why I book wif boon siew.. n also cos I can't go other bike shop lik future scootering cos nt authorized by bs.. they gt this stupid warranty card tt I must follow.. did u guys follow too? If they use gear oil n in future i wanna change to eo is it still possible?

[TitanicLexus]

Anyway, to share something with you guys... Was introduced to this credit card by a friend:

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/cards/credit/family-friends-platinum-mastercard.aspx

 

Selected 5% Cash Rebate Merchants

* Cold Storage**

* NTUC Fairprice/Finest/X-tra***

* Leading petrol stations and hypermarts in Malaysia

 

Maybank Singapore beside credit card, you guy can try to apply the personal credit line oso;

 

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/personal/loans/personal-credit/

 

They always give away the freebie like last time i got the iphone/ipod docking station but no brand de lah. As stated in their website say is worth abt S$300 buck, the condition is for new applicant and to hold at least 6 mth for non-cancellation, there is no annual fee too. Recent promotion is to give the freebie for Mitch & Marc watch worth S$500 (T&C apply)...

[whyzee]

Hai.. lik tt how lei.. I wanna use eo.. but they dun allow.. n if I dun follow they say anything happen to gear box no warranty covered -_- lik tt also must follow them... kns.. they say I can visit other bike shop which they authorized lik asp or mah... but when I went to asp xxxxxx ( dun wanna mention ) spoke to one of e mech.. n sad to hear he don't know wad transmission oil is -_-" so I scare lo.. Tts why I book wif boon siew.. n also cos I can't go other bike shop lik future scootering cos nt authorized by bs.. they gt this stupid warranty card tt I must follow.. did u guys follow too? If they use gear oil n in future i wanna change to eo is it still possible?

 

When you buy brand new bike, and you want the agent warranty, you gotta go to them for the first 2 services. So, just bear with it, and use the gear oil. So long you don't do long distance riding, it wouldn't be a problem.

 

after your second service, you should be able to service it anywhere else liao. Worse case scenario, open your service manual, and argue with them lo. But I doubt you will have any luck.

[SW9000]

Hai.. lik tt how lei.. I wanna use eo.. but they dun allow.. n if I dun follow they say anything happen to gear box no warranty covered -_- lik tt also must follow them... kns.. they say I can visit other bike shop which they authorized lik asp or mah... but when I went to asp xxxxxx ( dun wanna mention ) spoke to one of e mech.. n sad to hear he don't know wad transmission oil is -_-" so I scare lo.. Tts why I book wif boon siew.. n also cos I can't go other bike shop lik future scootering cos nt authorized by bs.. they gt this stupid warranty card tt I must follow.. did u guys follow too? If they use gear oil n in future i wanna change to eo is it still possible?

 

For every new bike, you have this warranty/service log card.

You must get it stamped for the 1st 3 services done. This will 'qualify' you for the full warranty of 1 year or 10k mileage (forgot the range liao).

The stamp can get from any bike shop (authorised by BS). Best to go back to the shop you bought the bike.... unless you bought direct from BS then got little choice (but still possible).

 

PM me if you wanna know how I did it...

[SW9000]

Hmm... Encik Pat also going Koh Samui in April.

But their dates are exactly same as Da Niu.

We will meet them in Hatyai on the 11 April (they on the way up and we just back from the island).

[scoobydoo]

servicing at BS? chop warranty card? all these i never do leh

only time my scoob went into their workshop (after few months) is for warranty repair on charging problem (for magnetic coil replaced under warranty).

 

bought scooby from Looi's so went back to them for standard servicing, then hop ship to other shops after Looi's failed to detect my charging problem. change my stuffs (tried different juices) at many places other than BS during the first year.

i still remember Clifford (K&T) asking me "chun bo, use 10w40 engine oil for final transmission"

 

then one stupid decision in early 2009 to try using normal w90 gear oil

cost me abt $550 to repair... many thanks to Clifford and Ah Chuen who spent lots of time working out the repair (mine was the 1st SW they worked on to replace the drive gears/bearings).

 

seems like my scoob is first SW "job" for some workshops:

@ K&T = first SW they repair final drive gears and bearings (now they have the special tool required)

@ Motoworld = first SW they change tyres, but i got super good deal (only $145 all in for a set of diablo scooter)

@ Equipment Extreme = first SW they mount PA2, took >1.5hrs

@ Eugene Saddlery (according to Eugene) = first SW for seat wrap with design & customise top box back rest

 

Edited January 5, 2012 by scoobydoo

[Atlantic 200]

Ah.... Me didn't even return to MAH for any service after collect my MaxSYM.

 

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[whyzee]

My S10 no more warranty liao. Warranty is 10,000km mileage, or 1 year.

Requirement: First 2 services by Hong Leong.

 

Paid around the same price for EO as quoted to you by Boon Siew, but for me, I dont mind, cos using Yamalube, which according to many reviews, is a very good EO.

 

Price slightly more ex, but when I asked and enquire, i realised they change the rubber o-ring gasket everytime they change EO..

[hockie69]

My S10 no more warranty liao.

 

Price slightly more ex, but when I asked and enquire, i realised they change the rubber o-ring gasket everytime they change EO..

 

Wow....1yr or 12k km so fast use finish or never go back? lolx

 

Change o ring gasket is good practice as it ensure there will be no leak.

[E GREAT1]

@whyzee thanks for e reply.. guess I hav no choice lo.. I dun mind pay abit more.. as long as they take care of my bike.. n do e 'rite' things but e wait is long;( luckily I never sell my kup KIA away.. if nt dunno wad to ride to work le...

[MaIkEr]

for the meet-up today, what time will you guys be dispersing? coz I can only reach around 8pm.

 

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[E GREAT1]

@SW9000 thanks for e reply.. Haa I bought e bike frm asp.. which I mention earlier e mech dunno wad is transmission oil... maybe its better this way? Den I can use 10w40 mineral oil for my eo change n transmission.. its better lik this? Or shuld I Jus go to boon siew? But I Jus worried tt e mech doesn't noe anything.. because I noe nuts too so I hav to depend on e mech lo... hmm go back asp n change mineral oil or boon siew 10w30 they call it gear oil?

[E GREAT1]

@scoobydoo thanks for e reply.. wa!! So u never even service wif boon siew? Lik tt warranty still count? eh lik this when I go change 10w40 mineral oil for eo.. my transmission also use the same mineral oil? Wad must I take note when doing first eo change? Cos I scare later e mech dunno wad oil to use;( n e chart I dunno how to read;( so sori...

[scoobydoo]

nope, never serviced at BS before.

 

i spoke to previous BS workshop manager few years back and he said as long as there's no modification to the bike and servicing done according to honda's recommendation, warranty should not be affected.

don't remember reading anywhere that honda's warranty is on condition that servicing must be done at BS.

 

btw, my bike went in with PA2 installed... mech told me its not recommended, but warranty still intact

 

first eo change (500km??) is a very simple one, just remember:

* use mineral/dinosaur engine oil and NOT synthetic oil

* oil filter change is optional but if FOC, why not

* final drive oil change is optional

* make sure mech don't tighten the aluminium drain plug too tight, else next round got problem opening; it gets "out of shape" easily from excessive force too, especially if worn tools are used.

 

... that's about it

 

if really want to play safe when changing final drive oil, print this and bring it along:

 

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv287/josephsbs/Silverwing/ManualFinaldriveoil_1.jpg?t=1293937673

Edited January 5, 2012 by scoobydoo

[E GREAT1]

@scoobydoo wahaha Ty Ty;) now I can make up my mind.. since its optional to change transmission oil.. for e first 500km.. haha dun think they will giv oil filter for free lol!! But I still change.. wanna take care of my first, first hand bike.. lol.. sori huh scoobydoo maybe I noob so dun understand wad you're saying.. transmission oil can use mineral oil Itz? Lol sori sori;)

[scoobydoo]

maybe to end all the confusion, we shall just call it final drive oil, as what the service manual states.

 

from factory, the final drive oil inside bike is mineral oil, not synthetic.

i used the same SAE grade 10w40 mineral motor oil for both engine bay and final drive over the 1000 km run-in, then change both to synthetics when run-in completed.

[SW9000]

1st impression... sweet! hehehe.