Honda NSR250 Riders

[1tym]

guys, sorry for disturbing u guys.. i willing to buy a pgm4 when i got my 2A.. so anyboby have comment bout pgm4?? heard tat its a problem bike..

[Kato74]

Me also looking 4 either a RS or PGM IV. Saw 1 at Ubi bikeshop with Telefonica Moviestar paintwork bike no. very nice. Too bad belong to private owner.

[Dahlia]

Originally posted by 1tym@Jul 23 2005, 09:10 AM

guys, sorry for disturbing u guys.. i willing to buy a pgm4 when i got my 2A.. so anyboby have comment bout pgm4?? heard tat its a problem bike..

only those Problem ppl will then says pgm or rs 250 a problem....so wats the problem they will also says?high fuel consumption,drink alot 2t lah....spare parts ex lah...scare piston jam easily lah....etc...etc....Come on...keep it simple...you really like it...you buy it! :smile:for sure you will enjoy the feel of 2-stroke(pls don ever compare its feel with 4stroke bike)its totally different.Sports bike are always build with their on problems man.....the choice is yours...bro:thumb:

[Dahlia]

Originally posted by diabolic@Jul 22 2005, 02:10 PM

Hi...i'm new to the forum...riding a MC28 R model.

welcome to the 250cc family.....cheers!!!!

[DESMOSEDICI]

Originally posted by Dahlia@Jul 23 2005, 05:40 PM

only those Problem ppl will then says pgm or rs 250 a problem....so wats the problem they will also says?high fuel consumption,drink alot 2t lah....spare parts ex lah...scare piston jam easily lah....etc...etc....Come on...keep it simple...you really like it...you buy it! :smile:for sure you will enjoy the feel of 2-stroke(pls don ever compare its feel with 4stroke bike)its totally different.Sports bike are always build with their on problems man.....the choice is yours...bro:thumb:

ur the man..

[1tym]

Originally posted by Dahlia@Jul 23 2005, 05:40 PM

only those Problem ppl will then says pgm or rs 250 a problem....so wats the problem they will also says?high fuel consumption,drink alot 2t lah....spare parts ex lah...scare piston jam easily lah....etc...etc....Come on...keep it simple...you really like it...you buy it! :smile:for sure you will enjoy the feel of 2-stroke(pls don ever compare its feel with 4stroke bike)its totally different.Sports bike are always build with their on problems man.....the choice is yours...bro:thumb:

OH.. thx dude.. i reali like Pmg4.. Hope to own it one daY

[DESMOSEDICI]

Originally posted by 1tym@Jul 24 2005, 07:53 PM

OH.. thx dude.. i reali like Pmg4.. Hope to own it one daY

actually pgm4 is my 3rd choice when im choosing 2a bike.. alot of hear say abt this bike.. prob la.. consumption high la.. blah blah blah.. now i own liao.. all i can say is i hav no regrets.. althou its consumption is higher than other 2a bikes.. but the feeling of 2 strokes r really betta in as compared 2 4 strokes.. the feeling of cutting in n out of corner.. its handling is superb thou its not inverted fork.. but theres no nid 2 change 2 usd fork.. gd luck in persuing ur dream bro..

[NightPhantom]

eh ask u all ah.. what if u all crash.. singapore still haf the parts meh... den those spare parts where u all get from??

[Dahlia]

Originally posted by 1tym@Jul 24 2005, 07:53 PM

OH.. thx dude.. i reali like Pmg4.. Hope to own it one daY

go for it man.....sure will like the feel when you open vavle:thumb: :thumb:Once you got it,hahahaha.......we do a opening session with you!!! :cheeky:

[Dahlia]

Originally posted by DESMOSEDICI@Jul 25 2005, 06:36 AM

actually pgm4 is my 3rd choice when im choosing 2a bike.. alot of hear say abt this bike.. prob la.. consumption high la.. blah blah blah.. now i own liao.. all i can say is i hav no regrets.. althou its consumption is higher than other 2a bikes.. but the feeling of 2 strokes r really betta in as compared 2 4 strokes.. the feeling of cutting in n out of corner.. its handling is superb thou its not inverted fork.. but theres no nid 2 change 2 usd fork.. gd luck in persuing ur dream bro..

i think your petrol is not as high as mine.......mine is like drinking water as this is no tml:cry:

[Dahlia]

Originally posted by NightPhantom@Jul 25 2005, 07:04 AM

eh ask u all ah.. what if u all crash.. singapore still haf the parts meh... den those spare parts where u all get from??

if you got money and really want too.....there will always have parts for it....new or 2nd hand......no problem... :smile:

[Ah_KiAt]

yeahh agreed!!!!

 

 

money settles everything! hahaa

[MC28]

Originally posted by NightPhantom@Jul 25 2005, 07:04 AM

eh ask u all ah.. what if u all crash.. singapore still haf the parts meh... den those spare parts where u all get from??

PGM spares can get from FJT..As for rs250, not so sure.

[SMOKEY]

I am riding a 2 stroke bike too.

If you want to look for light bike with power, 2 stroke is the bike you looking for.

4 stroke firing order : 1-3-4-2 : 100cc each firing

2 stroke firing order : 1-2-1-2 : 125cc each firing

get it? advantage within.

comsumption high because the bike rev a lot higher, which means you use most of the bike's potential. nothing wrong. make full use of your money for a good bike.

[SAN853]

Originally posted by SMOKEY@Jul 26 2005, 08:40 PM

I am riding a 2 stroke bike too.

If you want to look for light bike with power, 2 stroke is the bike you looking for.

4 stroke firing order : 1-3-4-2 : 100cc each firing

2 stroke firing order : 1-2-1-2 : 125cc each firing

get it? advantage within.

comsumption high because the bike rev a lot higher, which means you use most of the bike's potential. nothing wrong. make full use of your money for a good bike.

Words of wisdom from Smokey...

[Ah_KiAt]

sorry! may i know whats fjt?

[SMOKEY]

Got this website from vfrT

"at can someone out there tell me the diff?, diff between 2 stroke and 4 stroke."

Great site.

It will tell even more here.

 

Cheers SAN853

 

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId...ni_ga_2101.html

[jonse]

Originally posted by Dahlia@Jul 21 2005, 07:00 PM

which part 800plus?? :confused:

813 there lor... tampines

[Dahlia]

Originally posted by MC28@Jul 26 2005, 04:37 PM

PGM spares can get from FJT..As for rs250, not so sure.

you can buy a ticket to italy to buy rs250 parts...from screws to engine...they will have it..hehehe:cheeky:

[Dahlia]

Originally posted by jonse@Jul 26 2005, 09:26 PM

813 there lor... tampines

oic...so you stay there??cause theres few sp over there too....i think got a mito and rs125 oso.... :smile:

[stroker]

Originally posted by SMOKEY@Jul 26 2005, 08:40 PM

I am riding a 2 stroke bike too.

If you want to look for light bike with power, 2 stroke is the bike you looking for.

4 stroke firing order : 1-3-4-2 : 100cc each firing

2 stroke firing order : 1-2-1-2 : 125cc each firing

get it? advantage within.

comsumption high because the bike rev a lot higher, which means you use most of the bike's potential. nothing wrong. make full use of your money for a good bike.

Er... Bro.. Although I'm a real stroker fan... But your theory doesn't quite cut it i must say.. Not to make trouble, but some corrections needed to be done.. hee..

 

The stroker's more powerful because its 'power stroke' is twice as much as a 4 stroke.. In layman terms, it firing twice as much as opposed to the 4 stroke at the same rpm. Hence it supposingly is twice as powerful. But even after the power-robbing heat, friction, mechanical inefficiency etc takes effect, it still is a whole lot more powerful as compared to a N.A 4 stroke..

 

Not due to its firing order...

 

Another thing, petrol thirsty is not because of the higher rev, but due to the design of a stroker.. Can't help it. Its actually wasting hell-loads of wasted petrol especially at 'tick-over' (layman term again: idling); of course not forgetting at 'wide-open-throttle' conditions, fresh charges of petrol escapes due to incomplete combustion of the 2 stroke nature (its given only ONE cycle to combust it, while a 4stroke--TWO).

 

Strokers Rox!!!

(my 2sen worth)

[spiderman]

Originally posted by stroker@Jul 26 2005, 10:47 PM

Er... Bro.. Although I'm a real stroker fan... But your theory doesn't quite cut it i must say.. Not to make trouble, but some corrections needed to be done.. hee..

 

The stroker's more powerful because its 'power stroke' is twice as much as a 4 stroke.. In layman terms, it firing twice as much as opposed to the 4 stroke at the same rpm. Hence it supposingly is twice as powerful. But even after the power-robbing heat, friction, mechanical inefficiency etc takes effect, it still is a whole lot more powerful as compared to a N.A 4 stroke..

 

Not due to its firing order...

 

Another thing, petrol thirsty is not because of the higher rev, but due to the design of a stroker.. Can't help it. Its actually wasting hell-loads of wasted petrol especially at 'tick-over' (layman term again: idling); of course not forgetting at 'wide-open-throttle' conditions, fresh charges of petrol escapes due to incomplete combustion of the 2 stroke nature (its given only ONE cycle to combust it, while a 4stroke--TWO).

 

Strokers Rox!!!

(my 2sen worth)

yeah i must say that i agree and during scavenging fresh charge also escape to push the exhaust gas out..

[SMOKEY]

Agree that fuel mixture waste out of the port. there is a lot of cause to this waste but if the engine block is original, usually fresh mixture discharge out of the exhaust port is not that much provided the pipe is original.

it also depend on the pipes sound wave travel.

 

2 stroke is meant to go fast and not for touring. if i like to go touring in malaysia, surely i will not chose a 2 stroke. but if you like thrill and the rush, 2 stroke is the choice.

 

most people thinks that 2 strokers are outdated, cheap and low class people, but i guess we all have our own intrest and our preference and reason that keeps us going and believe in our goals. That's why i have been riding a 2 stroke till now.

 

no offence.

 

any pgm or rs ever try pick-up? 0~90 how fast?

[jonse]

Originally posted by Dahlia@Jul 26 2005, 09:50 PM

oic...so you stay there??cause theres few sp over there too....i think got a mito and rs125 oso.... :smile:

i live in 900+ but go 813 play bball

always saw 1 250 always park under the blokck de

[spiderman]

Originally posted by SMOKEY@Jul 27 2005, 10:06 PM

Agree that fuel mixture waste out of the port. there is a lot of cause to this waste but if the engine block is original, usually fresh mixture discharge out of the exhaust port is not that much provided the pipe is original.

it also depend on the pipes sound wave travel.

 

2 stroke is meant to go fast and not for touring. if i like to go touring in malaysia, surely i will not chose a 2 stroke. but if you like thrill and the rush, 2 stroke is the choice.

 

most people thinks that 2 strokers are outdated, cheap and low class people, but i guess we all have our own intrest and our preference and reason that keeps us going and believe in our goals. That's why i have been riding a 2 stroke till now.

 

no offence.

 

any pgm or rs ever try pick-up? 0~90 how fast?

change pipe also need to change jetting... normally jet down for stock engine with aftermarket pipe... lighter pipe and slightly higher hp... results in more petrol saving... the diff is only a few km diff lah...