Ever been saved by ABS?

[Constructicon]

Hi guys,

 

just a question for those with ABS equipped bikes.

Has the ABS ever saved you from potential accidents?

 

A certain incident a few weeks ago made me really realise the importance of such a rider aid.

Well, that ABS cost a few hundred more than a bike without ABS, but I guess it already paid for itself during the incident.

 

When you guys buy bikes, does ABS or traction control feature in your selection criteria?

Of course, rider aids such as ABS, CBS(subject to individual preference), traction control...etc are sort of secondary safety net, coming after the rider's riding attitude, anticipation, braking controls...etc.

But we are all humans and when we or the morons on the road made that mistake, sometimes these rider aids is all we have.

 

I just got to say, that few hundred dollars more might save you thousands more in $$$, or even your life.

ABS is old school technology, and it is only becoming more common on bikes these years. But its a pity that smaller cc bikes usually do not have these aids, due to cost.

 

Have a pleasant ride!

Edited February 15, 2010 by Constructicon

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I'm all for ABS/CBS to help me stop in a timely and efficient manner when i grab a fistful of brake lever....

[papabread79]

It did before aided me in braking. Its a very welcomed addition.

 

But doesnt it cost ~$2K more for bikes with ABS? Anyway what is ur ride Constructicon?

[Constructicon]

It did before aided me in braking. Its a very welcomed addition.

 

But doesnt it cost ~$2K more for bikes with ABS? Anyway what is ur ride Constructicon?

 

Riding a FZ1S Fazer.

The price difference is 'only' a few hundreds, so to speak. Hard earned money.

But i say that few hundred is well spent.

 

The review on the new CBR1000 Fireblade with the new type of ABS is certainly encouraging. Supposedly have less of the 'pulsing' feeling when brakings with ABS.

[smokin]

Yes, it saved me 2-3 times of troubles. twice in the wet.

[crazydj]

I ever activated ABS on a car before.

 

"PAK-----PAK-----PAK-----PAK----PAK"

 

Some idiot jammed brakes in front of me. Very loud screeching sound, then ABS took over to prevent my car from sliding. I would pay a few hundred bucks more for ABS.

[IvikaRazI]

I won't say that it is a safety feature. Even in a vehicle manual (Can't remember which one) I saw previous it has a warning indicating that ABS is not a safety feature. But I do believe it aids braking, not locking the brakes. That I agree.

 

My friend 2 times accident coz the brakes does not lock. So bo pian hit the car in front.

 

With proper braking techniques, a good braking distance can be achieved. Even motogp dun have ABS heheh.

 

One thing for sure, you can do high speed cornering with no issue. ABS. wont lock the brakes.

[papabread79]

Even motogp dun have ABS heheh.

Ur this line takes the cake! :faint::faint:

[Quincy]

One thing for sure, you can do high speed cornering with no issue. ABS. wont lock the brakes.

 

But the moment you depress ur lever in a corner, your handle bar auto becomes straight ah... Motards can lah but example busa @ 200km/hr & u go depress your brakes??? :faint:

[thenation]

Even motogp dun have ABS heheh.

 

They ride in a controlled environment, we don't. Skilled braking is a big part of racing, but the vast majority of us are not racers and have nowhere near the required amount of skill to brake properly each and every time.

 

In any case, the only similarities between motogp bikes and street bikes are that they have two wheels and an engine in between. No point comparing.

[Constructicon]

I quote from the Aliens Vs Predator movie:

 

Alexa 'Lex' Woods: [Rousseau is loading a pistol] Seven seasons on the ice, and I've never seen a gun save someone's life.

Adele Rousseau: I don't plan on using it.

Alexa 'Lex' Woods: Then why bring it?

Adele Rousseau: Same principle as a condom. I'd rather have one and not need it, then need it and not have one.

 

I guess it the same as ABS.

[xXxRatedxXx]

I quote from the Aliens Vs Predator movie:

 

Alexa 'Lex' Woods: [Rousseau is loading a pistol] Seven seasons on the ice, and I've never seen a gun save someone's life.

Adele Rousseau: I don't plan on using it.

Alexa 'Lex' Woods: Then why bring it?

Adele Rousseau: Same principle as a condom. I'd rather have one and not need it, then need it and not have one.

 

I guess it the same as ABS.

 

lol good one...

[IvikaRazI]

Ur this line takes the cake! :faint::faint:

 

Hahha but its true wat. If ABS is considered a safety feature, won't race only equipment be using them?

 

But the moment you depress ur lever in a corner, your handle bar auto becomes straight ah... Motards can lah but example busa @ 200km/hr & u go depress your brakes??? :faint:

 

Are you saying it is impossible? I'm sure it is possible. If TP bike can do it, so can normal people like us. They are trained anyway and not in a controlled environment. Unsure about 200km/hr though. Remember ABS dun lock the brakes. If it locks, then it will be called BS.

 

Ohh ya...forgot to add, during corners, not many will dare to use front brakes. Will using rear ABS brakes makes the handlebar become straight?

 

They ride in a controlled environment, we don't. Skilled braking is a big part of racing, but the vast majority of us are not racers and have nowhere near the required amount of skill to brake properly each and every time.

 

In any case, the only similarities between motogp bikes and street bikes are that they have two wheels and an engine in between. No point comparing.

 

Then I won't compare to a controlled environment anymore. Won't experience solved the braking issue? Won't it be safer for someone to be in-control then a mechanism controlling the person?

 

Lastly, can track braking skill be learned and applied on road without endangering others? In other words, adapting the skill to road instead of track?

 

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My Point taken from http://www.ibmwr.org/prodreview/abstests.html

 

"Unfortunately, ABS cannot scan the pavement ahead and make minor adjustments to braking pressure to optimize stopping power. Today's systems leave that job to the rider. The ability to look ahead and decide to reduce braking pressure, or to increase it, explains why a skilled rider can often out-stop someone who just squeezes the brakes as hard as possible and lets ABS take over. While ABS will save your butt, it is as yet not totally efficient (in terms of stopping distances) in modulating the brake pressure, no matter how fast the computer and hydraulics work. "

 

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Not saying that ABS is not good. In the end its how the user uses the tool. Understand the tool may require time. Not knowing how to use it properly is dangerous. The limitation of technology.

Edited February 22, 2010 by IvikaRazI

[ulysses_sc]

Hi guys,

 

just a question for those with ABS equipped bikes.

Has the ABS ever saved you from potential accidents?

 

A certain incident a few weeks ago made me really realise the importance of such a rider aid.

Well, that ABS cost a few hundred more than a bike without ABS, but I guess it already paid for itself during the incident.

 

When you guys buy bikes, does ABS or traction control feature in your selection criteria?

Of course, rider aids such as ABS, CBS(subject to individual preference), traction control...etc are sort of secondary safety net, coming after the rider's riding attitude, anticipation, braking controls...etc.

But we are all humans and when we or the morons on the road made that mistake, sometimes these rider aids is all we have.

 

I just got to say, that few hundred dollars more might save you thousands more in $$$, or even your life.

ABS is old school technology, and it is only becoming more common on bikes these years. But its a pity that smaller cc bikes usually do not have these aids, due to cost.

 

Have a pleasant ride!

 

No doubt that ABS is a very useful rider aid, but it is not a high ranking criteria in my choice of bike.

 

The bike has to fit my riding requirements, first and foremost. ABS/TCS/etc will be icing on the cake if available for the particular model I am interested in.

[CMYRS]

almost every other wk.

 

just keep the bike upright n slam on the brakes and let the calipers do the work.

[fatbar]

abs is just to prevent from locking... not better stoping distance

[Constructicon]

abs is just to prevent from locking... not better stoping distance

 

It work hand in hand, i guess.

 

With ABS, I suppose it works by minimising the braking distance w/o locking the wheels.

I guess for most riders in a panic situation, it might not be easy to detect a wheel that is going to lock, and release the brake lever in time to prevent the lockup.

Add in some rain, and it will be an even more difficult situation.

 

[barefoot]

i guess i need a abs. only really ebrake twice for 2 years plus of riding, both time rear tyres also lock, but never fall, still manage to stop before a faceplant.

 

kinda lucky, cause attended drc, spent quite a long time doing rear lock, learnt how to counter steer it, and releasing rear brake when your rear lock will actually make it worst