[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[Ah Pek]

Hi everyone

Was recommended to come here to find ah pek about the engine oil n some mixture or sooo anywae got some qs for ah pek since im coming down soon to try it out.

Just took out a spec 3 fy plate 180+k milage and i duno wether e bike shop svc e bike properly as in engine oil n soo. Only thing showed was timing chain coolent flush n stuff but when i ride bike i found out that when i riding in between the throtle there seems to be power loss for example at xpressway i throtle then suddenly like power loss then come back..then e gear changing damn hard most prob havent change engine oil. And milage for spec3 is usaly what lets say i constant ride 90 -100 then i dont open the vtech as often..how long can last...now im going 1 bar left n milage is at 250 i think...wah like that i rode my ver.s can go 340 without reserve n can whack at times....sgh...pls advice

 

Since you just gotten the bike from the shop, its best that you highlight the problems to the mototiam as I believe there should be a warranty period given. As for difficulty in gear changes, it could be your clutch cable adjustment to your change slack issue. As for the freaky power performance at throttle point, I suggest you let them know because I believe it could be electrical problem or a sensor in the speedo meter side.

 

Best not to qoute another mech that has done your bike while under their warranty. Good luck.

[Ah Pek]

hi guys,i just got my VerS recently,very happy with it cos it's pretty well taken off with a look alike RXZ headlight & the condition is good so far after testing..& i don't know much abt this bike after all,so hope to get useful advise or tips from u all..

 

just to introduce,i'm Ram & hope to meet up if possible..

 

Congrats and welcome..lots of helper here

[brandon.]

ah pek , will visit you soon for the flush coolent and grounding, been really busy this past couple of weeks. anyway i pump air for front is 250 psi and back is 290 psi often with pillion. tyres size 120 front 160back. it feels abit hard sia , like can feel the bumps on the road, or is it the suspension giving way??

[Ah Pek]

ah pek , will visit you soon for the flush coolent and grounding, been really busy this past couple of weeks. anyway i pump air for front is 250 psi and back is 290 psi often with pillion. tyres size 120 front 160back. it feels abit hard sia , like can feel the bumps on the road, or is it the suspension giving way??

 

The back is too hard for your weight..even with pillion. Try dropping by 30...that is 260. Front try 240.

[Metal_Heart]

ah pek , will visit you soon for the flush coolent and grounding, been really busy this past couple of weeks. anyway i pump air for front is 250 psi and back is 290 psi often with pillion. tyres size 120 front 160back. it feels abit hard sia , like can feel the bumps on the road, or is it the suspension giving way??

 

Bro the 290 your talking abt is not psi. Thats more then a 747 tyre pressure.

If I am not wrong it's in another unit. I think its Kpa.

Im just pointing out incase some ppl think its psi and try to pump 250psi

[Ah Pek]

Bro the 290 your talking abt is not psi. Thats more then a 747 tyre pressure.

If I am not wrong it's in another unit. I think its Kpa.

Im just pointing out incase some ppl think its psi and try to pump 250psi

 

Good one Metal_Heart. Yes..hardly find pressure pump with "PSI" these days..its KPA and stand s for "KiloPascal" where PSI stands for "Pound/Square Inch".

 

The conversion value is 1 Kpa = 0.145037737730209 Psi...therefore 240 kpa is 34.8090570552502 psi...etc.

[qd]

ahpek, if i use nano on the bike oso can rite? btw, that time u tell me the leaking part is wore out is what ah? forget what it call. black colour liquid.

[Ah Pek]

ahpek, if i use nano on the bike oso can rite? btw, that time u tell me the leaking part is wore out is what ah? forget what it call. black colour liquid.

 

Yes..can. Not sure what you meant by "leaking part is wore out.." but "black colour liquid"...you mean long term iron filing residue worn from gears and become like "oil sludge"? Not sure what we were discussing though base on your message.

 

Normally, I would suggest people to use X-1R with eo first for their first time before using Nano because not sure of their previous eo type and change interval. The first round of my eo would help get rid of slimy residue. If you wanna use Nano without first fresh eo changed..can oso but do an "engine flush" agent first.

[salem77]

still awaiting 4my pb1 ........

 

den maybe cn join kopi session wif u guyz.........

[Metal_Heart]

still awaiting 4my pb1 ........

 

den maybe cn join kopi session wif u guyz.........

 

If you want a prime example of how a PB1 can shine. Look at Ahpek's bike you will know. Things you thought is impossible to shine also he make shiny.

[sihan0110]

just change ah pek eo with nano . main thing i notice is the gear changing is very smooth . will monitor the fc

[Metal_Heart]

just change ah pek eo with nano . main thing i notice is the gear changing is very smooth . will monitor the fc

 

I didn't bother with the FC cause I know my right hand very itchy lol.

After changing EO and X1R with Ahpek. Sometimes I can hear the throttle whipering.. turn me... turn me..

 

Unless after the EO change you can discipline yourself to ride normally, which frankly I find very hard

[sihan0110]

I didn't bother with the FC cause I know my right hand very itchy lol.

After changing EO and X1R with Ahpek. Sometimes I can hear the throttle whipering.. turn me... turn me..

 

Unless after the EO change you can discipline yourself to ride normally, which frankly I find very hard

 

maybe i try to discipline myself . my current already 380 before reserve . if get 400 before reserve should be quite interesting

[Metal_Heart]

maybe i try to discipline myself . my current already 380 before reserve . if get 400 before reserve should be quite interesting

 

Ur FC quite good leh.. Care to share some tips? What rpm u change gear?

Highway speed, what gear what rpm?

[Ah Pek]

Ur FC quite good leh.. Care to share some tips? What rpm u change gear?

Highway speed, what gear what rpm?

 

That's just the partial part of it but have to let you know his bike is in very good condition and status wise, low on mileage from previous owner. He travels to and fro from home and destination on highways daily. I think this is the major part of it that conribute to his excellent mileage clocked..its a Spec II.

[sihan0110]

Ur FC quite good leh.. Care to share some tips? What rpm u change gear?

Highway speed, what gear what rpm?

 

normally travel by highway to camp . maintain 90km/h . change gear 3.5k to 4k . once a while open vtec .

[Metal_Heart]

That's just the partial part of it but have to let you know his bike is in very good condition and status wise, low on mileage from previous owner. He travels to and fro from home and destination on highways daily. I think this is the major part of it that conribute to his excellent mileage clocked..its a Spec II.

 

Thats true my Ver S can hit 300km plus b4 reserve, if travel on highway. But if I travel at normal small roads with traffic lights all that. I can only hit 200+ b4 reserve. But Ah pek I heard if change gear at low rpm, it causes more carbon buildup? Is that true?

[Ah Pek]

Thats true my Ver S can hit 300km plus b4 reserve, if travel on highway. But if I travel at normal small roads with traffic lights all that. I can only hit 200+ b4 reserve. But Ah pek I heard if change gear at low rpm, it causes more carbon buildup? Is that true?

 

Yah..basically the carbon are not 'forcefully' blown out and tend to stick to the side walls of things inside the exhaust.

[salem77]

If you want a prime example of how a PB1 can shine. Look at Ahpek's bike you will know. Things you thought is impossible to shine also he make shiny.

 

hes really the master shifu........

 

Yah..basically the carbon are not 'forcefully' blown out and tend to stick to the side walls of things inside the exhaust.

 

den must frequently go for 'clear carbon session' ley

[j_tan49]

j_tan49: My coolant was also leaking. but maybe not as badly as yours. After doing the patch with ahpek, no problem liao. hope it stays this way.

 

rockoil: My steering handle also shakes/vibrates left and right. Only found out recently.

 

Was riding at around 70 then let loosen my grip on the handle bar to see if it will go straight or lean towards one side. For a start, the bike leans slightly towards the right. then the steering bar starts to vibrate/shake left and right. I quickly resume my grip.

 

Tot was a once off thing so i tried again this morning. below 60km/h nothing happens, but once above 60km/h, the handle bar vibrates.

 

Ah Pek: How much to fix the steering cone at ah fook?

 

ahdon:thanks for the update! ya i'm currently monitoring my middle block to see if it's still leaking..i will be back in AMK drinking kopi in the void deck again at the first sign of another leak..now like okay liao leh..

 

ahdon+rockoil:my handle will also shake if i loosen grip leh..and according to ahpek's test, it's prob my steering cone bearing..cos i noticed the "kok" sound long time ago liao..and it's nothing to do with my tyre pressure cos i used to go around with just 200kpa for my front tyre..even after i pump up to 240kpa, still the same wobbling..

 

metal_heart:bro i got my bike's shower stuff liao..keke..so if you interested to wash bike together, let me know ya? keke..typing this makes me feel like washing my bike now..but seems like gona rain..

[Metal_Heart]

metal_heart:bro i got my bike's shower stuff liao..keke..so if you interested to wash bike together, let me know ya? keke..typing this makes me feel like washing my bike now..but seems like gona rain..

 

Ok bro.. Btw do you ride a Ver S 50th Anniversary edition? I normally wash bike either Fri or Sat evening or night depending. What abt u bro? Got any more khakis oso power

[qd]

Yes..can. Not sure what you meant by "leaking part is wore out.." but "black colour liquid"...you mean long term iron filing residue worn from gears and become like "oil sludge"? Not sure what we were discussing though base on your message.

 

Normally, I would suggest people to use X-1R with eo first for their first time before using Nano because not sure of their previous eo type and change interval. The first round of my eo would help get rid of slimy residue. If you wanna use Nano without first fresh eo changed..can oso but do an "engine flush" agent first.

 

engine flush? drain out the eo is it?

[Ah Pek]

engine flush? drain out the eo is it?

 

Engine flush is a process where some old oil are drained off and the remainder being added with a sludge removing agent (chemical). Then the engine be run for about 15-20 mins...this is when the gearbox internal components, cyclinder wall or just about anywhere the eo path is..are cleanse of oil sludge, residue slime or what have you inside. Then later drained all off and change with new eo. This is what engine flush is.

[j_tan49]

Ok bro.. Btw do you ride a Ver S 50th Anniversary edition? I normally wash bike either Fri or Sat evening or night depending. What abt u bro? Got any more khakis oso power

 

yeah bro that's prob me..esp if you see me along the whole ave 9 stretch or near 201 heading to/from simei ecp/pie..wat bout you?..if you see me means that i prob see you around too..keke..you ride Ver S also yes?

 

i have no defined days cos i will usually do it when i'm home early and not going out liao..have early dinner then start about 8-9pm..but more on week days than week ends cos fri/sat nights are mahjong sessions for me..haha..no kaki's leh..the one other friend i have riding bike like wont have this kinda mood come all the way to tampines from his place just to wash bike..by the time he get back bike dirty again liao..

[j_tan49]

by the way,

 

thanks ah pek for meeting me on short notice just now..will go get the polish the next time im in Giant for groceries..haha..hopefully next time you see me i would have completed what you started for me on my end can ..keke..