Suzuki Hayabusa

[-PiE-]

Change the clutch springs back to OEM. it shd work:P

 

so my 4 out of 6 APE heavy duty clutch springs are causing it to be harder to grip?

is it true, i can try bleeding the clutch n it may be better?

 

dang, e ex owner must have the left hand of a warrior..

[pinetreetmh]

so my 4 out of 6 APE heavy duty clutch springs are causing it to be harder to grip?

is it true, i can try bleeding the clutch n it may be better?

 

dang, e ex owner must have the left hand of a warrior..

 

bleed also useless as the stiffness is cause by the springs . change to oem springs can liao..

[salem77]

any bro here riding up for sepang motoGp next mth.....???

[quizesilver]

sound like a foul plug. feel your header. see which tube is not tat hot..

if not. lift up tank. air box. take out spark plug N check.

 

if white smoke from end can.. check piston...

 

shd be foul plug.. gd luck

 

thnx for the advise dude......

 

haha salem bro, thought u that time told me u juz change the plug ?

 

anyway good that it is only the plug.

 

foul = too rich. think u need to check more now. it could be due to the STP.

 

btw the oem plug that busa uses

denso - u27esr-n

ngk - cr9e

 

iridium equivalent

denso - IU27

ngk - CR9EIX

 

good read for all

taken from h.org

 

Hello all,

 

I have been looking all over the board for an answer to my question. I did not want to post a question if I did not have to. After not being able to find what I was looking for, I finally contacted a NGK technical support representative. I figured there are more people wondering this same questions I had. So I figured I would post them up here for all of us to have clarification on.

 

Below is the email I sent NGK with the response from the tech rep. I don't know if this should be pinned or not but I figured the validity of this response is stronger than hear-say.

 

My Message:

"VehicleType: Motorcycle

Make: Suzuki

Model: GSX1300R

Year: 2007

Engine Type: 1300CC DOHC 4cyl

Comments: Hi,

 

My question is about your product, NGK Iridium IX CR9EIX. I own a 2007 Suzuki

Hayabusa (GSX1300R) which I will be replacing my OEM spark plugs with the

CR9EIX. My question is in two parts.

 

Question one is pertaining to applying anti-seize lube to the threads of the

spark plug upon installation. Is this required with your product, or just a

recommendation?

 

Question two is about gapping the spark plugs. Is this a requirement or a

recommendation?

 

Please include as much information as you can to help better my understanding on

this topic.

 

V/R

 

Rob"

 

Response:

 

"Hello,

 

With all NGK plugs its recommended to install the plugs dry, especially on the

small 10mm diameter plugs like this one. Our plugs have a special Zinc metal

plating on them that's designed to resist corrosion and prevent seizure to the

cylinder head. Just be sure to tighten the plugs to 7.2-8.7lb-ft or use the

angle method listed on the box and you'll be good to go.

 

For this application the recommended gap is .028" and the CR9EIX is factory set

to .032" so you may want to close the gap for the best performance and longest

service life. When gapping an iridium plug be sure not to apply any pressure to

the center electrode, only the ground electrode (j-piece) should be touched.

Hope this helps, thank you.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Brandon Peeler

 

Technical Support Representative

 

Aftermarket Division

 

NGK Spark Plugs (U.S.A.), INC.

 

46929 Magellan Dr.

 

Wixom, MI 48393

 

http://my.artoffast.com/NGKTECH"

 

So there you have it. I hope this provides clarification for those of us out there that had this same question in mind.

 

V/R

 

Rob

[quizesilver]

so my 4 out of 6 APE heavy duty clutch springs are causing it to be harder to grip?

is it true, i can try bleeding the clutch n it may be better?

 

dang, e ex owner must have the left hand of a warrior..

 

qns, why only 4 spring? what about the other 2 spring ?

imo, it will cause uneven load to the clutch basket / assy.

 

 

bleeding will not help. u can either change out the spring to stock/oem or change the master pump. to a higher piston size. this will give u less effort during ur clutch-ing. haha

[kaieiru]

qns, why only 4 spring? what about the other 2 spring ?

imo, it will cause uneven load to the clutch basket / assy.

 

 

 

proper arrangement of the springs will not cause such problems..

[Nok97]

qns, why only 4 spring? what about the other 2 spring ?

imo, it will cause uneven load to the clutch basket / assy.

 

u need more input.... too much wrong N bad sector in your hard disk..

[Nok97]

so my 4 out of 6 APE heavy duty clutch springs are causing it to be harder to grip?

is it true, i can try bleeding the clutch n it may be better?

 

dang, e ex owner must have the left hand of a warrior..

just chg to OEM spring.

the ex owner is a warrior in the dark force..

 

denso plugs bro.....good enuF rite???

NGK - CR9EIX..... i love this plug.. pls dont ask me..

Edited September 30, 2009 by Nok97

[carbine]

CR9EIA

[Nok97]

back from penang 3ncr. Hows everything!!!

 

3ncr d&d..........

[pinetreetmh]

qns, why only 4 spring? what about the other 2 spring ?

imo, it will cause uneven load to the clutch basket / assy.

 

 

bleeding will not help. u can either change out the spring to stock/oem or change the master pump. to a higher piston size. this will give u less effort during ur clutch-ing. haha

 

beri common to chng just 3 or 4 springs. u chag all 6 to heavy duty u need a beri big left arm..

[quizesilver]

proper arrangement of the springs will not cause such problems..

 

oic

roger that.

[-PiE-]

beri common to chng just 3 or 4 springs. u chag all 6 to heavy duty u need a beri big left arm..

 

so how many oem springs do i need?

[pinetreetmh]

so how many oem springs do i need?

 

just replace the 4 heavy duty springs to oem..

[nabil15]

hey guysss

[Amazon]

proper arrangement of the springs will not cause such problems..

 

 

just chg to OEM spring.

the ex owner is a warrior in the dark force..

 

 

beri common to chng just 3 or 4 springs. u chag all 6 to heavy duty u need a beri big left arm..

 

 

so how many oem springs do i need?

 

Your bike's fitted with a 14's clutch master pump and it has ease off quite abit of the hardness.

 

just replace the 4 heavy duty springs to oem..

 

[-PiE-]

suddenly, think my clutch is quite good. only in jams cmi..

 

i just finsih sending my bike for a dyno. Ah S**** told me he feels that my busa is not fitted

with yoshi high cam after running through dyno.. tt's wad he suspected.

 

so when i recheck the pictures i saw on the bike shop's web out of curiosity even if it dosen't show the inner engine,

i realise it's fitted with a yoshi pillion foot rest(as per told by someone else too), only then i realise the one on my busa is a stock pillion footrest..

 

which leave me wondering, did the shop tamper with the bike before sellin it to me? :(

[pinetreetmh]

suddenly, think my clutch is quite good. only in jams cmi..

 

i just finsih sending my bike for a dyno. Ah S**** told me he feels that my busa is not fitted

with yoshi high cam after running through dyno.. tt's wad he suspected.

 

so when i recheck the pictures i saw on the bike shop's web out of curiosity even if it dosen't show the inner engine,

i realise it's fitted with a yoshi pillion foot rest(as per told by someone else too), only then i realise the one on my busa is a stock pillion footrest..

 

which leave me wondering, did the shop tamper with the bike before sellin it to me? :(

 

i confirm that bike has yoshi cam.. but not sure if the shop took them out..

[quizesilver]

suddenly, think my clutch is quite good. only in jams cmi..

 

i just finsih sending my bike for a dyno. Ah S**** told me he feels that my busa is not fitted

with yoshi high cam after running through dyno.. tt's wad he suspected.

 

so when i recheck the pictures i saw on the bike shop's web out of curiosity even if it dosen't show the inner engine,

i realise it's fitted with a yoshi pillion foot rest(as per told by someone else too), only then i realise the one on my busa is a stock pillion footrest..

 

which leave me wondering, did the shop tamper with the bike before sellin it to me? :(

 

post up the chart and the more experience rider will give their input.

i remember that bike used to have the yoshi pillion rest for both side.

 

when u view the bike does it have ??

if during viewing... it is nt there, and u accept... i guess u been "owned"

[quizesilver]

i confirm that bike has yoshi cam.. but not sure if the shop took them out..

 

u shld say

the bike had yoshi cam but not sure now.

[pinetreetmh]

u shld say

the bike had yoshi cam but not sure now.

 

OMG one more england teacher..

[TLK24]

i just finsih sending my bike for a dyno. Ah S**** told me he feels that my busa is not fitted

with yoshi high cam after running through dyno.. tt's wad he suspected.

 

which leave me wondering, did the shop tamper with the bike before sellin it to me?

 

footrest issue may not be as critical to the yoshi cam issue....but I have doubts over the integrity of the shop which sold the bike

 

bro PIE, you may want to get your own mechanic to strip the bike to confirm whether your busa is fitted with high cam or not.....hopefully there are no more "suprises"

 

..... as QS mentioned, perhaps you can share your bike dyno chart here

[salem77]

haha salem bro, thought u that time told me u juz change the plug ?

 

anyway good that it is only the plug.

 

foul = too rich. think u need to check more now. it could be due to the STP.

 

btw the oem plug that busa uses

denso - u27esr-n

ngk - cr9e

 

iridium equivalent

denso - IU27

ngk - CR9EIX

 

good read for all

taken from h.org

 

did i told u dat bro ??? well havent chged plugs yet tiLL now, gez ive hit 10,000km liao n am im gLad its juz a case of fouL plugs thnz for the inputs bro.....

 

just chg to OEM spring.

the ex owner is a warrior in the dark force..

 

 

NGK - CR9EIX..... i love this plug.. pls dont ask me..

 

:giddy:

[Nok97]

Cool with BKT 2009

Date: Sat Oct 24th 2009

 

Venue:

Genting View Resort,

Genting Highlands

 

24 Oct 2009 (Sat)

 

10am-11.30am – Group A (Halal Food Lunch)..

Marshall waiting location..

NSE E1 Jln Duta KL bound/km0.0/after Jln Duta toll Plaza/Shell Station.

 

- Group B (Non-Halal Food Lunch)..

Marshall waiting location..

NKVE E1 Klang bound/km0.0/after Bkt Raja toll /Petronas & Shell Station.

 

11.30am-12pm – Group A proceed to Halal Lunch at Gombak.

- Group B proceeds to Non-Halal lunch..tbc.

 

1.00pm-2.00pm - Group A & B convoy ride to mid-point at Karak H’way E8/after

Gombak toll/BHP stn.

 

2.00pm-3.00pm – Main group convoy up Genting Highlands.

3.00pm-3.30pm – Arrival & Check-In Resort.

 

4.00pm-6.00pm – Indoor Futsal Friendly Match (Malaysia vs. Singapore)

Each side consists of six in-field players + ten reserve players.

 

7.00pm-11.00pm - BBQ Dinner & Events by the poolside.

11pm onwards - Campfire..pending approval from local authorities.

 

25 Oct 2009 (Sun)

 

7.30am-9.30am - Breakfast

9.30am-11.30am - Check-Out

11.30am onwards - Bike Depart

11.00am sharp - Pre-Arrange convoy ride to MotoGP events at Sepang…bon voyage….

 

 

Event Registration

RM160 per person

 

 1 nite room stay / twin sharing basis

 Event T-Shirt

 Event Sticker

 one Lunch

 one BBQ Dinner

 one Breakfast

 Futsal Friendly souvenirs.

 Motor Club Souvenirs (>10members)

 

 

Any 1 or group interested.. Do Let me know as im just helping a friend

Cheers!

[salem77]

sounds interesting man......

 

but im departing for sepang motoGp only on sat nite, gotta werk in the day