Bikers Theological Discussion

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

it is good that Zac can accept the CD ... if not hor ... maybe the next time when he sit on his AT (donkey) ... his AT will speak to him (Num 22:28)

 

coincidentally it did.......

 

 

 

(buy a beemer buy a beemer):faint:

[EddyMeng]

coincidentally it did.......

 

(buy a beemer buy a beemer):faint:

 

hee hee hee

 

Zac has to dig deeper into his pocket

Edited May 4, 2010 by EddyMeng

[EddyMeng]

There is a very unusual prediction recorded by the Old Testament Prophet Joel and also by the Apostle Peter, who repeated Joel’s prophecy (Acts 2:16-19). The entire end time prediction is written below:

 

“And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;

 

and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: and also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

 

“And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.”

 

The order of these events is important.

 

1. Afterward (the restoration of Israel) God will “pour out His Spirit upon all flesh.”

 

There have been several regional outpourings of the Holy Spirit within the last 100 years or so. These outpourings include Murphy, NC, Los Angeles, CA, and in the Kansas area. One of the major outpourings began after 1948 when Israel was restored as a nation and then in 1967 when Jerusalem was re-united as the capital of Israel and the

 

Charismatic Movement began. Thus, “after” the restoration, alluded to in the book of Job, God has poured out His Spirit upon all flesh.

 

2. The “Sons and Daughters” will “Prophesy”

 

We are now seeing large youth movements emerge across the world and many of the overseas churches are filled with youth from ages 15 to 30. Even in Islamic nations, there are millions of teens that have become disillusioned with their religious upbringing and are searching for practical, life changing truth and a “religion” that can be felt in the spirit and not just received in the mind.

 

3. There would be “Wonders in the Heavens”

 

In the past three years, the Hubble Telescope has sent images from the heart of the universe that are astonishing and amazing. Images of the “Eye of God,” the “Crown of Thorns,” and the “Hand of God” have been shared. Photos of this can be seen in our book, “Unusual Prophecies Being Fulfilled – Book Seven – 2015 and Beyond, Cosmic Signs.”

 

4. There would be “Pillars of Smoke” Joel then said there would be “Signs in the earth beneath!” This is where the “smoke over Europe comes in.” Joel said there would be “pillars of smoke,” and the “sun would be darkened.” He also mentions “fire” as one of the signs under the earth. For many years I have said that this alludes to volcanic eruptions that would suddenly begin in the time of the end and send grey and black smoke filling the air. The smoke from an erupting volcano moves in the forms of a “pillar!”

 

Most of you are aware that 75 miles southeast of Reykjavik, Iceland, there is a massive volcano erupting that is sending smoke and ash plumes that are spreading into the skies of Europe. This not only creates a health problem if people breathe the ash, but it has shut down many of the air flights in Western Europe including planes in London, Norway and Sweden. On a normal day the European Air Traffic Control sees 22,000 flights across European nations. However, over half the flights have been cancelled. Some are saying there will be relief only if the winds change. Others are suggesting that if this volcano continues to rumble that the flight disruption could continue up to six months!

 

There is a second problem. This volcano is under a glacier that is normally a tourist’s hiking spot. The fire is melting huge chunks of the ice and causing massive flooding in certain areas. Based on the 2500 year old prophecy of Joel, there will be much activity with “pillars of smoke” prior to the day of the Lord (the tribulation). These dark clouds can also blot out the light of the sun and make it appear that the sun has become “darkened.”

 

This type of natural volcanic activity is something that no global warming specialist, eco-friendly politician or environmentalist can prevent. It is however, a visible sign given in prophecy of the time of the end and the soon approaching final tribulation, as the earth itself is experiencing “birth pains” (Matt. 24:8).

 

Perry Stone

 

ref http://www.voe.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=78&Itemid=125

[EddyMeng]

February 22, 2010

While stopping short of directly admonishing Israel, the European Union (EU) issued a statement today denouncing the forgery of European passports used in last month's Dubai assassination of a senior Hamas militant.

 

Then April 15, 2010

got European passports ... cannot fly

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36543312

 

same thing happens in 2005

when US force Israel to give up gaza strip, 2 weeks later Hurricane Katrina visited NEW ORLEANS in US.

 

the way i see is my God is a covenant keeping God ... God's covenant with Abraham is still in force:

 

Genesis 12:1~3 NKJV

Now the LORD had said to Abram:

....

I will bless those who bless you,

And I will curse him who curses you;

And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

 

Shalom

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Chapter 18 - Of Assurance of Grace and Salvation

1) Although hypocrites, and other unregenerate men, may vainly deceive themselves with false hopes and carnal presumptions of being in favour of God and estate of salvation; Job 8:13,14 Mic 3:11 De 29:19 Joh 8:41 which hope of theirs shall perish Mt 7:22,23 yet such as truly believe in the Lord Jesus, and love him in sincerity, endeavouring to walk in all good conscience before him, may in this life be certainly assured that they are in the state of grace, 1Jo 2:3 3:14,18,19,21,24 5:13 and may rejoice in the hope of the glory of God which hope shall never make them ashamed. Ro 5:2,5

 

2) This certainty is not a bare conjectural and probable persuasion, grounded upon a fallible hope; Heb 6:11,19 but an infallible assurance of faith, founded upon the divine truth of the promises of salvation, Heb 6:17,18 the inward evidence of those graces to which these promises are made, 2Pe 1:4,5,10,11 1Jo 2:3 3:14 2Co 1:12 the testimony of the Spirit of adoption witnessing with our Spirits that we are the children of God: Ro 8:15,16 which Spirit is the earnest of our inheritance, by which we are sealed to the day of redemption. Eph 1:13,14 Eph 4:30 2Co 1:21,22

 

3) This infallible assurance does not so belong to the essence of faith, but that a true believer may wait long, and conflict with many difficulties, before he be partaker of it: 1Jo 5:13 Isa 1:10 Mr 9:24 Ps 88:1-18 77:1-12 yet, being enabled by the Spirit to know the things which are freely given him of God, he may, without extraordinary revelation, in the right use of ordinary means, attain to it. 1Co 2:12 1Jo 4:13 Heb 6:11,12 Eph 3:17,18,19 And therefore it is the duty of every one to give all diligence to make his calling and election sure; 2Pe 1:10 that thereby his heart may be enlarged in peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, in love and thankfulness to God, and in strength and cheerfulness in the duties of obedience, Ro 5:1,2,5 Ro 14:17 15:13 Eph 1:3,4 Ps 4:6,7 119:32 the proper fruits of this assurance: so far is it from inclining men to looseness. 1Jo 2:1,2 Ro 6:1,2 Tit 2:11,12,14 2Co 7:1 Ro 8:1,12 1Jo 3:2,3 Ps 130:4 1Jo 1:6,7

 

4) True believers may have the assurance of their salvation in various ways shaken, diminished, and intermitted; as, by negligence in preserving of it; by falling into some special sin, which wounds the conscience, and grieves the Spirit; by some sudden or vehement temptation; by God's withdrawing the light of his countenance, and suffering even such as fear him to walk in darkness, and to have no light: So 5:2,3,6 Ps 51:8,12,14 Eph 4:30,31 Ps 77:1-10 Mt 26:69-72 Ps 31:22 Ps 88:1-18 Isa 1:10 yet are they never utterly destitute of that seed of God, and life of faith, that love of Christ and the brethren, that sincerity of heart and conscience of duty, out of which, by the operation of the Spirit, this assurance may in due time be revived, 1Jo 3:9 Lu 22:32 Job 13:15 Ps 73:15 Ps 51:8,12 Isa 1:10 and by the which, in the mean time, they are supported from utter despair. Mic 7:7,8,9 Jer 32:40 Isa 54:7-10 Ps 22:1 Ps 88:1-18

 

Chapter 19 - Of the Law of God

1) God gave to Adam a law, as a covenant of works, by which he bound him, and all his posterity, to personal, entire, exact, and perpetual obedience; promised life upon the fulfilling, and threatened death upon the breach of it; and endued him with power and ability to keep it. Ge 1:26,27 2:17 Ro 2:14,15 Ro 10:5 5:12,19 Ga 3:10,12 Ec 7:29 Job 28:28

 

2) This law, after his fall, continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness; and, as such, was delivered by God upon mount Sinai in ten commandments, and written in two tables; Jas 1:25 2:8,10-12 Ro 13:8-9 De 5:32 10:4 Ex 24:1 the first four commandments containing our duty towards God, and the other six our duty to man. Mt 22:37-40

 

3) Besides this law, commonly called moral, God was pleased to give to the people of Israel, ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances; partly of worship, prefiguring Christ, his graces, actions, sufferings, and benefits; Heb 9:1-28 10:1 Ga 4:1-3 Col 2:17 and partly holding forth various instructions of moral duties. 1Co 5:7 2Co 6:17 Jude 1:23 All of these ceremonial laws are now abrogated under the New Testament. Col 2:14,16,17 Da 9:27 Eph 2:15,16

 

4) To them also, as a political body, he gave various judicial laws, which expired together with the state of that people, not obliging any other now, further than its general equity may require. Ex 22:1-31 22:1-29 Ge 49:10 1Pe 2:13,14 Mt 5:17,38,39 1Co 9:8,9,10

 

5) The moral law does for ever bind all, as well justified persons as others, to its obedience; Ro 13:8,9 Eph 6:2 1Jo 2:3,4,7,8 and that not only in regard of the matter contained in it, but also in respect of the authority of God, the Creator, who gave it. Jas 2:10,11 Neither does Christ in the gospel any way dissolve, but much strengthen this obligation. Mt 5:17,18,19 Jas 2:8 Ro 3:31

 

6) Although true believers are not under the law as a covenant of works, to be by it justified or condemned; Ro 6:14 Ga 2:16 3:13 4:4,5 Ac 13:39 Ro 8:1 yet is it of great use to them, as well as to others; in that, as a rule of life, informing them of the will of God and their duty, it directs and binds them to walk accordingly; Ro 7:12,22,25 Ps 119:4,5,6 1Co 7:19 Ga 5:14,16,18-23 discovering also the sinful pollution of their nature, hearts, and lives; Ro 7:7 Ro 3:20 so as, examining themselves by it, they may come to further conviction of, humiliation for, and hatred against sin; Jas 1:23,24,25 Ro 7:9,14,24 together with a clearer sight of the need they have of Christ, and the perfection of his obedience. Ga 3:24 Ro 7:24,25 Ro 8:3,4 It is likewise of use to the regenerate, to restrain their corruptions, in that it forbids sin; Jas 2:11 Ps 119:101,104,128 and the threatening of it serve to show what even their sins deserve, and what afflictions in this life they may expect for them, although freed from its curse threatened in the law. Ezr 9:13,14 Ps 89:30-34 The promises of it, in like manner, show them God's approbation of obedience, and what blessings they may expect upon its performance, Le 26:1-14 2Co 6:16 Eph 6:2,3 Ps 37:11 Mt 5:5 Ps 19:11 although not as due to them by the law as a covenant of works: Ga 2:16 Lu 17:10 so as a man's doing good, and refraining from evil, because the law encourages to the one, and deters from the other, is no evidence of his being under the law, and not under grace. Ro 6:12,14 1Pe 3:8,9,10,11,12 Ps 34:12-16 Heb 12:28

 

7) Neither are the aforementioned uses of the law contrary to the grace of the gospel, but do sweetly comply with it; Ga 3:21 the Spirit of Christ subduing and enabling the will of man to do that freely and cheerfully which the will of God revealed in the law requires to be done. Eze 36:27 Heb 8:10 Jer 31:33

 

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

[EddyMeng]

coincidentally it did.......

(buy a beemer buy a beemer):faint:

 

did yr Zuzu speak to u ???

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

did yr Zuzu speak to u ???

 

yes it says ...screw his backside screw his backside:P

[EddyMeng]

yes it says ...screw his backside screw his backside:P

 

yr Zuzu beri badass

[edwardlong]

I dun hav yet..dats y i am askin d question lah... bcos watever a pastor teaches on d pulpit.. if 1 thing is proven wrong...all his teachings / doctrines den also caqnt b trusted... but if its proven rite.. den 1 does indeed hav to change of heart and reali open up to his teachings.... thus, d question of whether Paul suffer from physical illness or jus a metaphor ..is of paramount importance

 

I hope your heart is open to whatever this pastor is teaching now.

 

Hallelujah~~!!

 

[EddyMeng]

Originally Posted by NinjaLite

I dun hav yet..dats y i am askin d question lah... bcos watever a pastor teaches on d pulpit.. if 1 thing is proven wrong...all his teachings / doctrines den also caqnt b trusted... but if its proven rite.. den 1 does indeed hav to change of heart and reali open up to his teachings.... thus, d question of whether Paul suffer from physical illness or jus a metaphor ..is of paramount importance

 

I hope your heart is open to whatever this pastor is teaching now.

 

Hallelujah~~!!

 

 

yap ... hopefully Zac can find a pastor which he can trust.

Edited May 4, 2010 by EddyMeng

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

yr Zuzu beri badass

 

he got piles

 

I hope your heart is open to whatever this pastor is teaching now.

 

Hallelujah~~!!

 

 

you mean spread wide open:angel:

 

Originally Posted by NinjaLite

I dun hav yet..dats y i am askin d question lah... bcos watever a pastor teaches on d pulpit.. if 1 thing is proven wrong...all his teachings / doctrines den also caqnt b trusted... but if its proven rite.. den 1 does indeed hav to change of heart and reali open up to his teachings.... thus, d question of whether Paul suffer from physical illness or jus a metaphor ..is of paramount importance

yap ... hopefully Zac can find a pastor which he can trust.

 

ooi that's your POV hor!

 

btw i also support yk goto NCC

 

get the ex-singh ...he's veri good and smooth:thumb:

 

it more his style...

[edwardlong]

he got piles

 

 

 

you mean spread wide open:angel:

 

 

 

ooi that's your POV hor!

 

btw i also support yk goto NCC

 

get the ex-singh ...he's veri good and smooth:thumb:

 

it more his style...

 

 

i didn't know can change race. And you also should come...same style as you too...both like to tell corny jokes.

 

:angel:

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

i didn't know can change race. And you also should come...same style as you too...both like to tell corny jokes.

 

:angel:

 

Senior Pastor Joseph Prince, born in 1963, is one of the founding members of New Creation Church.[8] He was born to an Indian father and a Chinese mother. While working as a consultant, he changed his name to the current one, Joseph Prince. His real name was never revealed but the last name was Singh. He is married to Wendy Prince and they have a daughter, Jessica Shayna.

 

ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Creation_Church#Joseph_Prince

[edwardlong]

Senior Pastor Joseph Prince, born in 1963, is one of the founding members of New Creation Church.[8] He was born to an Indian father and a Chinese mother. While working as a consultant, he changed his name to the current one, Joseph Prince. His real name was never revealed but the last name was Singh. He is married to Wendy Prince and they have a daughter, Jessica Shayna.

 

ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Creation_Church#Joseph_Prince

 

 

shhhhhh cannot reveal so much leh...

 

Thanks for the link though...

 

Edited May 4, 2010 by edwardlong

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Senior Pastor Joseph Prince, born in 1963, is one of the founding members of New Creation Church.[8] He was born to an Indian father and a Chinese mother. While working as a consultant, he changed his name to the current one, Joseph Prince. His real name was never revealed but the last name was Singh. He is married to Wendy Prince and they have a daughter, Jessica Shayna.

 

ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Creation_Church#Joseph_Prince

 

shhhhhh cannot reveal so much leh...

 

Thanks for the link though...

i didn't know can change race. And you also should come...same style as you too...both like to tell corny jokes.

 

:angel:

 

 

 

you see G-d can do miracles race also change liao:angel:

[EddyMeng]

you see G-d can do miracles race also change liao:angel:

 

ya lor ... donkey can talk; red sea can part; blind can see .....

 

HE beri power one

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Chapter 20 - Of Christian Liberty, and Liberty of Conscience

1) The Liberty which Christ has purchased for believers under the gospel, consists in there freedom from the guilt of sin, the condemning wrath of God, the curse of the moral law; Tit 2:14 1Th 1:10 Ga 3:13 and in their being delivered from this present evil world, bondage to Satan, and dominion of sin, Ga 1:4 Col 1:13 Ac 26:18 Ro 6:14 from the evil of afflictions, the sting of death, the victory of the grave, and everlasting damnation; Ro 8:28 Ps 119:71 1Co 15:54-57 Ro 8:1 as also in their free access to God, Ro 5:1-2 and their yielding obedience to him, not out of slavish fear, but a child-like love, and willing mind. Ro 8:14-15 1Jo 4:18

 

All which were common also to believers under the law; Ga 3:9,14 but under the new testament, the liberty of Christians is further enlarged in their freedom from the yoke of the ceremonial law, to which the Jews were subjected, Ga 4:1-3, 6-7 Ga 5:1 Ac 15:10-11 and in greater boldness of access to the throne of grace. Heb 4:14,16 Heb 10:19-22 and in fuller communications of the Spirit of God, than believers under the law did ordinarily partake of. Joh 7:38-39 2Co 3:13,17-18

 

2) God alone is lord of the conscience, Jas 4:12 Ro 14:4 and has left it free from the doctrines and commandments of men which are in any thing contrary to his word, or beside it, in matters of faith or worship. Ac 4:19 5:29 1Co 7:23 Mt 23:8-10 2Co 1:24 Mt 15:9 So that to believe such doctrines, or to obey such commandments out of conscience, is to betray true liberty of conscience: Col 2:20,22-23 Ga 1:10 Ga 2:4-5 Ga 5:1 and the requiring of an implicit faith, and an absolute and blind obedience, is to destroy liberty of conscience, and reason also. Ro 10:17 Ro 14:23 Isa 8:20 Ac 17:11 Joh 4:22 Ho 5:11 Re 13:12,16-17 Jer 8:9

 

3) They who, upon pretence of Christian liberty, do practise any sin, or cherish any lust, do by it destroy the end of Christian liberty; which is, that, being delivered out of the hands of our enemies, we might serve the Lord without fear, in holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life. Ga 5:13 1Pe 2:16 2Pe 2:19 Joh 8:34 Lu 1:74-75

 

4) And because the powers which God has ordained, and the liberty which Christ has purchased, are not intended by God to destroy, but mutually to uphold and preserve one another; they who, upon pretence of Christian liberty, shall oppose any lawful power, or lawful exercise of it, whether it be civil or ecclesiastical, resist the ordinance of God. Mt 12:25 1Pe 2:13,14,16 Ro 8:1-8 Heb 13:17 And for their publishing of such opinions, or maintaining of such practices, as are contrary to the light of nature, or to the known principles of Christianity, whether concerning faith, worship, or deportment; or to the power of godliness; or such erroneous opinions or practices, as either in their own nature or in the manner of publishing or maintaining them, are destructive to external peace and the order which Christ has established in the church; they may lawfully be called to account Ro 1:32 1Co 5:1,5,11,13 2Jo 1:10,11 2Th 3:14 1Ti 6:3-5 Tit 1:10,11,13 3:10 Mt 18:15-17 1Ti 1:19,20 Re 2:2,14,15,20 3:9 and proceeded against them by the censures of the church. 2Jo 1:10,11 2Th 3:14-15 Tit 3:10 Mt 18:15-17

 

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

Edited May 5, 2010 by ChaoPuzzy1968

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Chapter 21 - Of Religious Worship, and the Sabbath Day

1) The light of nature shows that there is a God who has lordship and sovereignty over all; is good, and does good to all; and is therefore to be feared, loved, praised, called upon, trusted in, and served, with all the heart, and with all the soul, and with all the might. Ro 1:20 Ac 17:24 Ps 119:68 Jer 10:7 Ps 31:23 18:3 Ro 10:12 Ps 62:8 Jos 24:14 Mr 12:33 but the acceptable way of worshipping the true God is instituted by himself, and so limited by his own revealed will, that he may not be worshipped according to the imaginations and devices of men, of the suggestions of Satan, under any visible representation, or any other way not prescribed in the holy Scripture. De 12:32 Mt 15:9 Ac 17:25 Mt 4:9,10 De 15:1-20 Ex 20:4 Ex 20:5,6 Col 2:23

 

2) Religious worship is to be given to God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; and to him alone: Mt 4:10 Joh 5:23 2Co 13:14 not to angels, saints, or any other creature: Col 2:18 Re 19:10 Ro 1:25 and since the fall, not without a Mediator; not in the mediation of any other but Christ alone. Joh 14:6 1Ti 2:5 Eph 2:18 Col 3:17

 

3) Prayer, with thanksgiving, being one special part of religious worship, Php 4:6 is by God required of all men; Ps 65:2 and, that it may be accepted, it is to be made in the name of the Son, Joh 14:13,14 1Pe 2:5 by the help of his Spirit, Ro 8:26 according to his will 1Jo 5:14 with understanding, reverence, humility, fervency, faith, love, and perseverance; Ps 47:7 Ec 5:1,2 Heb 12:28 Ge 18:27 Jas 5:16 1:6,7 Mr 11:24 Mt 6:12,14,15 Col 4:2 Eph 6:18 and, if vocal, in a known language. 1Co 14:14

 

4) Prayer is to be made for things lawful, 1Jo 5:14 and for all sorts of men living, or that shall live hereafter; 1Ti 2:1,2 Joh 17:20 2Sa 7:29 Ru 4:12 but not for the dead, 2Sa 12:21,22,23 Lu 16:25,26 Re 14:13 nor for those of whom it may be known that they have sinned the sin to death. 1Jo 5:16

 

5) The reading of the Scriptures with godly fear; Ac 15:21 Re 1:3 the sound preaching, 2Ti 4:2 and conscious hearing of the word, in obedience to God, with understanding, faith, and reverence; Jas 1:22 Ac 10:33 Mt 13:19 Heb 4:2 Isa 66:2 singing of psalms with grace in the heart; Col 3:16 Eph 5:19 Jas 5:13 as also the due administration and worthy receiving of the ordinances instituted by Christ; are all parts of the ordinary religious worship of God: Mt 28:19 1Co 11:23-29 Ac 2:42 besides religious oaths De 6:13 Ne 10:29 and vows, Isa 19:21 Ec 5:4,5 solemn fastings, Joe 2:12 Es 4:16 Mt 9:15 1Co 7:5 and thanksgivings upon special occasions, Ps 107:1-43 Es 9:22 which are, in their several times and seasons, to be used in a holy and religious manner. Heb 12:28

 

6) Neither prayer, nor any other part of religious worship, is, now under the gospel, either tied into, or made more acceptable by, any place in which it is performed, or towards which it is directed; Joh 4:21 but God is to be worshipped everywhere Mal 1:11 1Ti 2:8 in spirit and truth; Joh 4:23,24 as in private families Jer 10:25 De 6:6,7 Job 1:5 2Sa 6:18,20 1Pe 3:7 Ac 10:2 daily, Mt 6:11 and in secret each one by himself; Mt 6:6 Eph 6:18 so more solemnly in the public assemblies, which are not carelessly or wilfully to be neglected or forsaken, when God, by his word or providence, calls to it. Isa 56:6,7 Heb 10:25 Pr 1:20,21,24 Pr 8:34 Ac 13:42 Lu 4:16 Ac 2:42

 

7) As it is of the law of nature, that, in general, a due proportion of time be set apart for the worship of God; so, in his word, by a positive, moral, and perpetual commandment, binding all men in all ages, he has particularly appointed one day in seven for a sabbath, to be kept holy to him: Ex 20:8,10,11 Isa 56:2,4,6,7 which, from the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ, was the last day of the week; and, from the resurrection of Christ, was changed into the first day of the week, Ge 2:2,3 1Co 16:1,2 Ac 20:7 which in Scripture is called the Lord's Day, Re 1:10 and is to be continued to the end of the world, as the Christian Sabbath. Ex 20:8,10 Mt 5:17,18

 

8) This sabbath is then kept holy to the Lord, when men, after a due preparing of their hearts, and ordering of their hearts, and ordering of their common affairs before hand, do not only observe an holy rest all the day from their own works, words, and thoughts about their worldly employments and recreations; Ex 20:8 16:23,25,26,29,30 31:15,16,17 Isa 58:13 Ne 13:15,16 Ne 13:17-22 but also are taken up the whole time in the public and private exercises of his worship, and in the duties of necessity and mercy. Isa 58:13 Mt 12:1-13

 

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

[EddyMeng]

Gal 5:4 If you seek to be justified {and} declared righteous {and} to be given a right standing with God through the Law, you are brought to nothing {and} so separated (severed) from Christ. You have fallen away from grace (from God's gracious favor and unmerited blessing).

 

wOw ... beri "lawman" hor

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Gal 5:4 If you seek to be justified {and} declared righteous {and} to be given a right standing with God through the Law, you are brought to nothing {and} so separated (severed) from Christ. You have fallen away from grace (from God's gracious favor and unmerited blessing).

 

wOw ... beri "lawman" hor

 

those knnb lawman church always comes out with their own doctrine to bind their members under their laws but in actual fact from the real puritan teaching it stated we are set free..

 

so "dogly" man begets "dogly" way

 

and "Knnb" man begets "knnb" way

 

 

pui:dot:

[EddyMeng]

those knnb lawman church always comes out with their own doctrine to bind their members under their laws but in actual fact from the real puritan teaching it stated we are set free..

 

so "dogly" man begets "dogly" way

 

and "Knnb" man begets "knnb" way

 

 

pui:dot:

 

that's right ...

 

John 8:32 (New King James Version)

And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Chapter 22 - Of Lawful Oaths and Vows

1) A lawful oath is part of religious worship, De 10:20 wherein, upon just occasion, the person swearing solemnly calls God to witness what he asserts or promises; and to judge him according to the truth or falsehood of what he swears. Ex 20:7 Le 19:12 2Co 1:23 2Ch 6:22,23

 

2) The name of God only is that by which men ought to swear, and it is to be used with all holy fear and reverence; De 6:13 therefore to swear vainly or rashly by that glorious and dreadful name, or to swear at all by any other thing, is sinful, and to be abhorred. Ex 20:7 Jer 5:7 Mt 5:34,37 Jas 5:12 Yet as, in matters of weight and moment, an oath is warranted by the word of God under the New Testament, as well as under the Old; Heb 6:16 2Co 1:23 Isa 65:16 so a lawful oath, being imposed by lawful authority, in such matters, ought to be taken. 1Ki 8:31 Ne 13:25 Ezr 10:5

 

3) Whoever takes an oath, ought duly to consider the weightiness of so solemn an act, and in it to avouch nothing but what he is fully persuaded is the truth. Ex 20:7 Jer 4:2 Neither may any man bind himself by oath to anything but what is good and just, and what he believes so to be, and what he is able and resolved to perform. Ge 24:2,3,5,6,8,9 Yet it is a sin to refuse an oath touching anything that is good and just, being imposed by lawful authority. Nu 5:19,21 Ne 5:12 Ex 22:7,8,9,10,11

 

4) An oath is to be taken in the plain and common sense of the words, without equivocation or mental reservation. Jer 4:2 Ps 24:4 It cannot oblige to sin; but in any thing not sinful, being taken, it binds to performance, although to a man's own hurt; 1Sa 25:22,32,33,34 Ps 15:4 nor is it to be violated, although made to heretics or infidels. Eze 17:16,18,19 Jos 9:18,19 2Sa 21:1

 

5) A vow is of the like nature with a promissory oath, and ought to be made with the like religious care, and to be performed with the like faithfulness. Isa 19:21 Ec 5:4-6 Ps 61:8 66:13,14

 

6) It is not to be made to any creature, but to God alone: Ps 76:11 Jer 44:25,26 and that it may be accepted, it is to be made voluntarily, out of faith, and conscience of duty, in way of thankfulness for mercy received, or for the obtaining of what we want; whereby we more strictly bind ourselves to necessary duties, or to other things, so far and so long as they may fitly lead to it. De 23:21-23 Ps 50:14 Ge 28:20-22 1Sa 1:11 Ps 66:13,14 Ps 132:2-5

 

7) No man may vow to do anything forbidden in the word of God, or what would hinder any duty commanded in it, or which is not in his power, and for the performance of which he has no promise of ability from God. Ac 23:12,14 Mr 6:26 Nu 30:5,8,12,13 In which respects, monastic vows of perpetual single life, professed poverty, and regular obedience, are so far from being degrees of higher perfection, that they are superstitious and sinful snares, in which no Christian may entangle himself. 1Ti 4:3 Mt 19:11,12 1Co 7:2,9 Eph 4:28 1Pe 4:2 1Co 7:23

 

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Chapter 23 - Of the Civil Magistrate

1) God, the supreme Lord and King of all the world, has ordained civil magistrates to be under him over the people, for his own glory, and the public good; and to this end, has armed them with the power of the sword, for the defence and encouragement of them that are good, and for the punishment of evil doers. Ro 13:1-4 1Pe 2:13,14

 

2) It is lawful for Christians to accept and execute the office of a magistrate, when called to it: Pr 8:15,16 Ro 13:1,2,4 in the managing of it, as they ought especially to maintain piety, justice, and peace, according to the wholesome laws of each commonwealth; Ps 2:10-12 1Ti 2:2 Ps 82:3,4 2Sa 23:3 1Pe 2:13 so, for that end, they may lawfully, now under the New Testament, wage war upon just and necessary occasions. Lu 3:14 Ro 13:4 Mt 8:9,10 Ac 10:1,2 Re 17:14,16

 

3) The civil magistrate may not assume to himself the administration of the word and ordinances, or the power of the keys of the kingdom of heaven. 2Ch 26:18 Mt 18:17 16:19 1Co 12:28,29 Eph 4:11,12 1Co 4:1,2 Ro 10:15 Heb 5:4

 

4) It is the duty of people to pray for magistrates, 1Ti 2:1,2 to honour their persons, 1Pe 2:17 to pay them tribute and other dues, Ro 13:6,7 to obey their lawful commands, and to be subject to their authority for conscience' sake. Ro 13:5 Tit 3:1 Infidelity, or difference in religion, does not make void the magistrate's just and legal authority, nor free the people from their due obedience to him: 1Pe 2:13,14,16 from which ecclesiastic persons are not exempted. Ro 13:1 1Ki 2:35 Ac 25:9,10,11 2Pe 2:1,10,11 Jude 1:8-11

 

Chapter 24 - Of Marriage

1) Marriage is to be between one man and one woman: neither is it lawful for any man to have more than one wife, nor any woman to have more than one husband, at the same time. Ge 2:24 Mt 19:5,6 Pr 2:17

 

2) Marriage was ordained for the mutual help of husband and wife; Ge 2:18 for the increase of mankind with a legitimate issue, and of the church with an holy seed; Mal 2:15 and for preventing of uncleanness. 1Co 7:2,9

 

3) It is lawful for all sorts of people to marry who are able with judgment to give their consent: Heb 13:4 1Ti 4:3 1Co 7:36-38 Ge 24:57,58 yet it is the duty of Christians to marry only in the Lord. 1Co 7:39 And therefore such as profess the true Christian religion should not marry with infidels, unbelievers or other idolaters: neither should such as are godly be unequally yoked, by marrying with such as are notoriously wicked in their life, or maintain damnable heresies. Ge 34:14 Ex 34:16 De 7:3,4 1Ki 11:4 Ne 13:25-27 Mal 2:11,12 2Co 6:14

 

4) Marriage ought not to be within the degrees of consanguinity or affinity forbidden in the word; Le 18:1-30 1Co 5:1 Am 2:7 nor can such incestuous marriages ever be made lawful by any law of man, or consent of parties, so as those person may live together as man and wife. Mr 6:18 Le 18:24-28 The man may not marry any of his wife's kindred nearer in blood than he may of his own, nor the woman of her own. Le 20:19-21

 

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

Edited May 8, 2010 by ChaoPuzzy1968

[NinjaLite]

cant afford beemer wor... unless i work for IRAS

 

mORD.,.. open ur own non-law church...i b ur 1st member

 

not all church leaders r sinisters lah.... statistically wise...its impossible for all to b evil...nor is it possible for all to b gud..

[EddyMeng]

cant afford beemer wor... unless i work for IRAS

 

mORD.,.. open ur own non-law church...i b ur 1st member

 

not all church leaders r sinisters lah.... statistically wise...its impossible for all to b evil...nor is it possible for all to b gud..

 

work 3 jobs lor ... then you can afford beemer

when you work 3 jobs hor ... u will have no time for that beemer; someone will test ride for you

 

yap, impossible for all to b evil...nor is it possible for all to b gud ... however, it is essential they need to teach JESUS and His Finished Work aka Paul's Gospel.