Bikers Theological Discussion

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 8, 2010

yr "pink design" on your weestorm ... copyright or not ?

sekali ... kena copy then you know

this i got to see

EddyMeng · June 8, 2010

yr "pink design" on your weestorm ... copyright or not ?

sekali ... kena copy then you know

this i got to see

congee no need to copy ... he asking you to donate yr weestorm so that his kingdom can expand from Asia and beyond

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoDvUERAMzs&feature=related

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 8, 2010

yr "pink design" on your weestorm ... copyright or not ?

sekali ... kena copy then you know

congee no need to copy ... he asking you to donate yr weestorm so that his kingdom can expand from Asia and beyond

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoDvUERAMzs&feature=related

i donate my semenial fluid into his backside so it can be exapnd:angel:

EddyMeng · June 8, 2010

i donate my semenial fluid into his backside so it can be exapnd:angel:

ic ... u love congee

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 8, 2010

ic ... u love congee

that's why my storm is pink

EddyMeng · June 8, 2010

ic ... u love congee

that's why my storm is pink

u wun a wHOre to feed you

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 8, 2010

ic ... u love congee

u wun a wHOre to feed you

she missing liao:angel:

EddyMeng · June 8, 2010

she missing liao:angel:

maybe both go pak tor separately ?

http://current.com/news/92464372_city-harvest-church-co-operates-probe-pastor-kong-hee-sun-ho-divorce-rumor.htm

Edited June 8, 2010 by EddyMeng

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 9, 2010

II. James the Great

The next martyr we meet with, according to St. Luke, in the History of the Apsotles' Acts, was

James the son of Zebedee, the elder brother of John, and a relative of our Lord; for his mother

Salome was cousin-german to the Virgin Mary. It was not until ten years after the death of Stephen

that the second martyrdom took place; for no sooner had Herod Agrippa been appointed governor

of Judea, than, with a view to ingratiate himself with them, he raised a sharp persecution against the

Christians, and determined to make an effectual blow, by striking at their leaders. The account

given us by an eminent primitive writer, Clemens Alexandrinus, ought not to be overlooked; that, as

James was led to the place of martyrdom, his accuser was brought to repent of his conduct by the

apostle's extraordinary courage and undauntedness, and fell down at his feet to request his pardon,

professing himself a Christian, and resolving that James should not receive the crown of martyrdom

alone. Hence they were both beheaded at the same time. Thus did the first apostolic martyr

cheerfully and resolutely receive that cup, which he had told our Savior he was ready to drink.

Timon and Parmenas suffered martyrdom about the same time; the one at Philippi, and the other in

Macedonia. These events took place A.D. 44.

III. Philip

Was born at Bethsaida, in Galilee and was first called by the name of "disciple." He labored

diligently in Upper Asia, and suffered martyrdom at Heliopolis, in Phrygia. He was scourged,

thrown into prison, and afterwards crucified, A.D. 54.

IV. Matthew

Whose occupation was that of a toll-gatherer, was born at Nazareth. He wrote his gospel in Hebrew,

which was afterwards translated into Greek by James the Less. The scene of his labors was Parthia,

and Ethiopia, in which latter country he suffered martyrdom, being slain with a halberd in the city

of Nadabah, A.D. 60.

V. James the Less

Is supposed by some to have been the brother of our Lord, by a former wife of Joseph. This is very doubtful,

and accords too much with the Catholic superstition, that Mary never had any other children except our

Savior. He was elected to the oversight of the churches of Jerusalem; and was the author of the Epistle

ascribed to James in the sacred canon. At the age of ninety-four he was beat and stoned by the Jews; and

finally had his brains dashed out with a fuller's club.

VI. Matthias

Of whom less is known than of most of the other disciples, was elected to fill the vacant place of Judas. He

was stoned at Jerusalem and then beheaded

VII. Andrew

Was the brother of Peter. He preached the gospel to many Asiatic nations; but on his arrival at Edessa he was

taken and crucified on a cross, the two ends of which were fixed transversely in the ground. Hence the

derivation of the term, St. Andrew's Cross.

VIII. St. Mark

Was born of Jewish parents of the tribe of Levi. He is supposed to have been converted to Christianity by

Peter, whom he served as an amanuensis, and under whose inspection he wrote his Gospel in the Greek

language. Mark was dragged to pieces by the people of Alexandria, at the great solemnity of Serapis their

idol, ending his life under their merciless hands.

IX. Peter

Among many other saints, the blessed apostle Peter was condemned to death, and crucified, as some do

write, at Rome; albeit some others, and not without cause, do doubt thereof. Hegesippus saith that Nero

sought matter against Peter to put him to death; which, when the people perceived, they entreated Peter with

much ado that he would fly the city. Peter, through their importunity at length persuaded, prepared himself to

avoid. But, coming to the gate, he saw the Lord Christ come to meet him, to whom he, worshipping, said,

"Lord, whither dost Thou go?" To whom He answered and said, "I am come again to be crucified." By this,

Peter, perceiving his suffering to be understood, returned into the city. Jerome saith that he was crucified, his

head being down and his feet upward, himself so requiring, because he was (he said) unworthy to be

crucified after the same form and manner as the Lord was.

X. Paul

Paul, the apostle, who before was called Saul, after his great travail and unspeakable labors in

promoting the Gospel of Christ, suffered also in this first persecution under Nero. Abdias, declareth

that under his execution Nero sent two of his esquires, Ferega and Parthemius, to bring him word of

his death. They, coming to Paul instructing the people, desired him to pray for them, that they might

believe; who told them that shortly after they should believe and be baptised at His sepulcher. This

done, the soldiers came and led him out of the city to the place of execution, where he, after his

prayers made, gave his neck to the sword.

XI. Jude

The brother of James, was commonly called Thaddeus. He was crucified at Edessa, A.D. 72.

XII. Bartholomew

Preached in several countries, and having translated the Gospel of Matthew into the language of

India, he propagated it in that country. He was at length cruelly beaten and then crucified by the

impatient idolaters.

XIII. Thomas

Called Didymus, preached the Gospel in Parthia and India, where exciting the rage of the pagan

priests, he was martyred by being thrust through with a spear.

XIV. Luke

The evangelist, was the author of the Gospel which goes under his name. He travelled with Paul through

various countries, and is supposed to have been hanged on an olive tree, by the idolatrous priests of Greece.

XV. Simon

Surnamed Zelotes, preached the Gospel in Mauritania, Africa, and even in Britain, in which latter

country he was crucified, A.D. 74.

XVI. John

The "beloved disciple," was brother to James the Great. The churches of Smyrna, Pergamos, Sardis,Philadelphia, Laodicea, and Thyatira, were founded by him. From Ephesus he was ordered to besent to Rome, where it is affirmed he was cast into a cauldron of boiling oil. He escaped by miracle,without injury. Domitian afterwards banished him to the Isle of Patmos, where he wrote the Book ofRevelation. Nerva, the successor of Domitian, recalled him. He was the only apostle who escaped a

violent death

XVII. Barnabas

Was of Cyprus, but of Jewish descent, his death is supposed to have taken place about A.D. 73.

And yet, notwithstanding all these continual persecutions and horrible punishments, the Church dailyincreased, deeply rooted in the doctrine of the apostles and of men apostolical, and watered plentously withthe blood of saints.

ref Foxes Book of Martyr

EddyMeng · June 9, 2010

Going against the flow ... when yr name will be there too

Edited June 9, 2010 by EddyMeng

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 9, 2010

Going against the flow ... when yr name will be there too

soon:angel:

EddyMeng · June 9, 2010

soon:angel:

so let us sing

Soon and very soon,

We are going to see the King!

Halle-lu-jah! Halle-lujah!

We're going to see the King!

No more crying there,

We are going to see the King!

No more crying there,

We are going to see the King!

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 9, 2010

so let us sing

Soon and very soon,
We are going to see the King!
Halle-lu-jah! Halle-lujah!
We're going to see the King!
No more crying there,
We are going to see the King!
No more crying there,
We are going to see the King!

We are going to see the King!

Halle-lu-jah! Halle-lujah!

Thru the Bin See the King.

Dump the bodies thru Bin

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=607&pictureid=3607

EddyMeng · June 9, 2010

We are going to see the King!
Halle-lu-jah! Halle-lujah!
Thru the Bin See the King.
Dump the bodies thru Bin

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=607&pictureid=3607

ooi ... can't remember the lyrics to this song huh

hooky from church too long

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 10, 2010

CHAPTER II - The Ten Primitive

Persecutions

The First Persecution, Under Nero, A.D. 67

The first persecution of the Church took place in the year 67, under Nero, the sixth emperor of Rome. This

monarch reigned for the space of five years, with tolerable credit to himself, but then gave way to the

greatest extravagancy of temper, and to the most atrocious barbarities. Among other diabolical whims, he

ordered that the city of Rome should be set on fire, which order was executed by his officers, guards, and

servants. While the imperial city was in flames, he went up to the tower of Macaenas, played upon his harp,

sung the song of the burning of Troy, and openly declared that 'he wished the ruin of all things before his

death.' Besides the noble pile, called the Circus, many other palaces and houses were consumed; several

thousands perished in the flames, were smothered in the smoke, or buried beneath the ruins.

This dreadful conflagration continued nine days; when Nero, finding that his conduct was greatly blamed,

and a severe odium cast upon him, determined to lay the whole upon the Christians, at once to excuse

himself, and have an opportunity of glutting his sight with new cruelties. This was the occasion of the first

persecution; and the barbarities exercised on the Christians were such as even excited the commiseration of

the Romans themselves. Nero even refined upon cruelty, and contrived all manner of punishments for the

Christians that the most infernal imagination could design. In particular, he had some sewed up in skins of

wild beasts, and then worried by dogs until they expired; and others dressed in shirts made stiff with wax,

fixed to axletrees, and set on fire in his gardens, in order to illuminate them. This persecution was general

throughout the whole Roman Empire; but it rather increased than diminished the spirit of Christianity. In the

course of it, St. Paul and St. Peter were martyred.

To their names may be added, Erastus, chamberlain of Corinth; Aristarchus, the Macedonian, and

Trophimus, an Ephesians, converted by St. Paul, and fellow-laborer with him, Joseph, commonly called

Barsabas, and Ananias, bishop of Damascus; each of the Seventy.

ref foxes book of martyr

EddyMeng · June 10, 2010

Our past mistakes and sins are NOT even remembered by God !

ROMANS 8:38-39 (NEW KING JAMES VERSION)

For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord

The Apostle Paul is saying that among other things â€¦.. â€œno things present nor things to comeâ€ â€¦ shall be able to separate us from the love of God.

Note that Apostle Paul did NOT mention â€œpastâ€. He only mentions â€œpresent and futureâ€, nothing about our past â€¦.. our past mistakes and sins are NOT even remembered by God !

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful {and} gracious toward their sins and I will remember their deeds of unrighteousness no more.

Heb 10:17 He then goes on to say, And their sins and their lawbreaking I will remember no more.

God is judging His Children by our how good our high priest is

a) Religion is pointing man to self

b) True Christianity is pointing man to Jesus and His Finished Work

r u in churchanity or christianity ?

Shalom

edwardlong · June 10, 2010

CHAPTER II - The Ten Primitive
Persecutions

The First Persecution, Under Nero, A.D. 67
The first persecution of the Church took place in the year 67, under Nero, the sixth emperor of Rome. This
monarch reigned for the space of five years, with tolerable credit to himself, but then gave way to the
greatest extravagancy of temper, and to the most atrocious barbarities. Among other diabolical whims, he
ordered that the city of Rome should be set on fire, which order was executed by his officers, guards, and
servants. While the imperial city was in flames, he went up to the tower of Macaenas, played upon his harp,
sung the song of the burning of Troy, and openly declared that 'he wished the ruin of all things before his
death.' Besides the noble pile, called the Circus, many other palaces and houses were consumed; several
thousands perished in the flames, were smothered in the smoke, or buried beneath the ruins.
This dreadful conflagration continued nine days; when Nero, finding that his conduct was greatly blamed,
and a severe odium cast upon him, determined to lay the whole upon the Christians, at once to excuse
himself, and have an opportunity of glutting his sight with new cruelties. This was the occasion of the first
persecution; and the barbarities exercised on the Christians were such as even excited the commiseration of
the Romans themselves. Nero even refined upon cruelty, and contrived all manner of punishments for the
Christians that the most infernal imagination could design. In particular, he had some sewed up in skins of
wild beasts, and then worried by dogs until they expired; and others dressed in shirts made stiff with wax,
fixed to axletrees, and set on fire in his gardens, in order to illuminate them. This persecution was general
throughout the whole Roman Empire; but it rather increased than diminished the spirit of Christianity. In the
course of it, St. Paul and St. Peter were martyred.
To their names may be added, Erastus, chamberlain of Corinth; Aristarchus, the Macedonian, and
Trophimus, an Ephesians, converted by St. Paul, and fellow-laborer with him, Joseph, commonly called
Barsabas, and Ananias, bishop of Damascus; each of the Seventy.

ref foxes book of martyr

I think you have a wish be become a martyr.....

x_00_x · June 10, 2010

Our past mistakes and sins are NOT even remembered by God !

Actually He does remember, just that He chose to see it as being judged on His Son, Jesus.

I read from a book recently which is quite true, it says that the love of God was never separated from us. It is our sins that separates us from Him. Remember the 'radar' analogy' pastor mentioned before? If we are in Christ, and He in us. The Law's righteous radar can't detect us as we are under the shelter of His mighty wing.

God said He remember our sins and lawless deeds no more because He made a conscious choice of forgiving us. That's how great is His love. He made His choice to forgive and redeemed.

However, as humans. it is so so difficult to do. That is to forgive as Christ has forgiven us. We still have our residual thoughts, hurts. Hence we tend to depict our God, our Father as such.

Thank God we got the Holy Bible / Holy Spirit and anointed vessels to reminds us that this is not the case, so we need to 'change our mind' or in short, repent.

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 10, 2010

I think you have a wish be become a martyr.....

wait lah ! first I show christian givng their life for G_d the I will compare "CB" who claim to dedicate their life and work for G-d by commiting atrocities in His Name. http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities.html

http://www.borndigital.com/tinq.htm

Just because "the CB" See things differently and want to force others into their way.

have patiences first you say I want to be a Martyr , Next what?

EddyMeng · June 10, 2010

However, as humans. it is so so difficult to do. That is to forgive as Christ has forgiven us. We still have our residual thoughts, hurts. Hence we tend to depict our God, our Father as such.

Thank God we got the Holy Bible / Holy Spirit and anointed vessels to reminds us that this is not the case, so we need to 'change our mind' or in short, repent.

That is why we need to constantly remind ourselves of HIS TRUTH daily ... lest we "4jet"

it is AWESOME to be immersed in HIS LOVE

edwardlong · June 10, 2010

wait lah ! first I show christian givng their life for G_d the I will compare "CB" who claim to dedicate their life and work for G-d by commiting atrocities in His Name. http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities.html

http://www.borndigital.com/tinq.htm

Just because "the CB" See things differently and want to force others into their way.

have patiences first you say I want to be a Martyr , Next what?

ohhhh...i tot you have a secret wish to be a martyr...

If you really have tell me hor.... I will be the first one to throw a big rock at you.... heheh... no no ... i will gather all those that wish to stone you...then we have a party~~!!

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 10, 2010

ohhhh...i tot you have a secret wish to be a martyr...

If you really have tell me hor.... I will be the first one to throw a big rock at you.... heheh... no no ... i will gather all those that wish to stone you...then we have a party~~!!

in that case let me spend some time with your father first ......i had to let him know his son ride bike with his permission.....

and i will get pop corn and see how he sodomise you....don't worry i, i be watching thru a one way mirrior....private viewing

EddyMeng · June 10, 2010

Originally Posted by edwardlong

ohhhh...i tot you have a secret wish to be a martyr...

If you really have tell me hor.... I will be the first one to throw a big rock at you.... heheh... no no ... i will gather all those that wish to stone you...then we have a party~~!!

in that case let me spend some time with your father first ......i had to let him know his son ride bike with his permission.....

and i will get pop corn and see how he sodomise you....don't worry i, i be watching thru a one way mirrior....private viewing

let him who is without "seen" be the 1st to cast the stone

ha ha ha

Edited June 11, 2010 by EddyMeng

ChaoPuzzy1968 · June 11, 2010

The Second Persecution, Under Domitian, A.D. 81

The emperor Domitian, who was naturally inclined to cruelty, first slew his brother, and then raised the

second persecution against the Christians. In his rage he put to death some of the Roman senators, some

through malice; and others to confiscate their estates. He then commanded all the lineage of David be put to

death.

Among the numerous martyrs that suffered during this persecution was Simeon, bishop of Jerusalem, who

was crucified; and St. John, who was boiled in oil, and afterward banished to Patmos. Flavia, the daughter of

a Roman senator, was likewise banished to Pontus; and a law was made, "That no Christian, once brought

before the tribunal, should be exempted from punishment without renouncing his religion."

A variety of fabricated tales were, during this reign, composed in order to injure the Christians. Such was the

infatuation of the pagans, that, if famine, pestilence, or earthquakes afflicted any of the Roman provinces, it

was laid upon the Christians. These persecutions among the Christians increased the number of informers

and many, for the sake of gain, swore away the lives of the innocent.

Another hardship was, that, when any Christians were brought before the magistrates, a test oath was

proposed, when, if they refused to take it, death was pronounced against them; and if they confessed

themselves Christians, the sentence was the same.

The following were the most remarkable among the numerous martyrs who suffered during this persecution.

Dionysius, the Areopagite, was an Athenian by birth, and educated in all the useful and ornamental literature

of Greece. He then travelled to Egypt to study astronomy, and made very particular observations on the great

and supernatural eclipse, which happened at the time of our Savior's crucifixion.

The sanctity of his conversation and the purity of his manners recommended him so strongly to the

Christians in general, that he was appointed bishop of Athens.

Nicodemus, a benevolent Christian of some distinction, suffered at Rome during the rage of Domitian's

persecution.

Protasius and Gervasius were martyred at Milan.

Timothy was the celebrated disciple of St. Paul, and bishop of Ephesus, where he zealously governed the

Church until A.D. 97. At this period, as the pagans were about to celebrate a feast called Catagogion,

Timothy, meeting the procession, severely reproved them for their ridiculous idolatry, which so exasperated the people that they fell upon him with their clubs, and beat him in so dreadful a manner that he expired of the bruises two days later.

ref Foxe's Book of Martyr

EddyMeng · June 12, 2010

Among the numerous martyrs that suffered during this persecution was.......................... St. John, who was boiled in oil, and afterward banished to Patmos.
ref Foxe's Book of Martyr

the pot of oil gave up boiling Apostle John

then Apostle John gets a free ride to Patmos to get the revelations that G-D wish to show him ... inspiring him to write the last book of the bible ..... the book of Revelation

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants--things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John,

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