EPS carpark

[arthur_chan]

my hdb carpark sign says per min charge up to $2 if exceed 1 parking session. so if i laid my bike there for few days or weeks will also be $2? any bros tried?

[kinwei]

Think that is only applicable for cars and during night parking only. For motorcycle, the charging is per usual. 65 cents for day parking and 65 cents for night parking.

[arthur_chan]

Think that is only applicable for cars and during night parking only. For motorcycle, the charging is per usual. 65 cents for day parking and 65 cents for night parking.

 

i'm very confirm it's in the m'cycle section.

[kinwei]

Then not sure liao. Never tried before. All I know the EPS charging is following closely to the coupon style. So far the only $2 charge I can think of is for the car night parking at $2 from 1030pm to 7am. For motorcycle, still the same old 65cents charging system.

[madman]

it depends man,

 

for airport - i ever park there for 4 days, tot only pay one day, in the end.... when exit, cashcard $$$ fly away as per days there...

 

but if it is similar to whitesands, it is $1 per entry...park 1 week also $1. tested b4...

 

you have to test to know.

[Jeethan]

if per entry then no matter for how long you park just pay the fix amount. but if it didn't specify per entry then you have to pay based on the time you enter and exit the car park.

[arthur_chan]

ok, i meant this. it seem more like for motor since the font is a bit down. really confusing on this.http://i39.tinypic.com/25ousjn.jpg

[Lim Ah Wan]

For My Friend He Also Lay Up For 6 Months. Park For Very Long Then When Wanna Exit After 6 Months, Sneak Out. Hehehe. There Will Always Be A Way. Not Recommended Though. Just Saying. Wanna Do, Do. Dont Wanna Do, Dont Do Then.

[arthur_chan]

just curious, those eps carpark got attandent check? how will they know if u everytime sneak out? will get caught n ban?

[kinwei]

From the photo, it is more clear. It is for car only. Normally you will write disclaimer or term and condition below of the main article right? As for this case, it is for car.

[kinwei]

just curious, those eps carpark got attandent check? how will they know if u everytime sneak out? will get caught n ban?

 

Everytime you go thru the EPS system (go in carpark), the system will capture your IU number, date and time of entrance. From here they can calculate the amount based on your exit as your IU will also be scanned then.

 

So let say you managed to sneak out, you will still be consider inside the carpark all these while as there is no exit record. So the next time you go in, you may have to pay the amount starting from the last time you ride into the carpark. So you better pray their system will erase their record once in a while. But normally they will keep for a long time.

 

Plus they always have camera at the entrace and exit. This can be served as an evidence against you should you try to cheat the carpark system. There is 2 ways I can think of to avoid paying but at your own risk. Normally if do once or twice, I THINK they will close one eye. But if you are caught doing alot of times, then they might take action against you provided they can film you in action.

 

By the way, if you see attentance inside the carpark, normally it on Sun or public holiday where they will summon those non season ticket holder parking on season lots only.

[Maja]

just curious, those eps carpark got attandent check? how will they know if u everytime sneak out? will get caught n ban?

 

there is a EPS carpark near my area. everytime i would just ride up the pavement and go in instead of going through the barrier. there is a booth near the barrier and got a person inside. i asked the person whether he would summon me for that and he said he don't care also.

[kinwei]

there is a EPS carpark near my area. everytime i would just ride up the pavement and go in instead of going through the barrier. there is a booth near the barrier and got a person inside. i asked the person whether he would summon me for that and he said he don't care also.

 

Yes, normally they bo chup as they are usually the maintenance guys, not parking attentance. Beside the main revenue is from car anyway.

 

Anyway now all these EPS system carparks all managed by contractor not by HDB. The contractor themselves do not have summon power. By right this system will deter non-payment of parking fee, so there isn't a need to summon anyway. But there is always loop hole for the bike. Like I say it mainly for the car anyway.

[arthur_chan]

So the next time you go in, you may have to pay the amount starting from the last time you ride into the carpark. So you better pray their system will erase their record once in a while. But normally they will keep for a long time.

paying is only at exit, so if u go in twice, the starting time will be when u go in 2nd time rite.

 

Plus they always have camera at the entrace and exit. This can be served as an evidence against you should you try to cheat the carpark system. There is 2 ways I can think of to avoid paying but at your own risk. Normally if do once or twice, I THINK they will close one eye. But if you are caught doing alot of times, then they might take action against you provided they can film you in action.

the camera has a limited view, esp for eps carpark at hdb, there's always a way in from the void deck. i've always seen this happening at my blk. however i wont dare do this.

 

Anyway now all these EPS system carparks all managed by contractor not by HDB. The contractor themselves do not have summon power. By right this system will deter non-payment of parking fee, so there isn't a need to summon anyway. But there is always loop hole for the bike. Like I say it mainly for the car anyway.

 

 

i feel this system is to cut down the carpark attendent's job, however being electronic, there's just the human cheat which cannot be avoided.

Edited April 27, 2010 by arthur_chan

[kinwei]

paying is only at exit, so if u go in twice, the starting time will be when u go in 2nd time rite.

 

 

I forgot how exactly it work. Either you will have problem going in or they open barrier and based on the last records they have. Cause your IU record is still inside their system as never exit. If they detect your IU at the entrance again, it will create a conflict in their data. So ultimately it how the carpark system works. There are numerous carpark system mainly, Sun Japan, Wei Long, Memcomb etc.. So it really how they are programmed.

[arthur_chan]

I forgot how exactly it work. Either you will have problem going in or they open barrier and based on the last records they have. Cause your IU record is still inside their system as never exit. If they detect your IU at the entrance again, it will create a conflict in their data. So ultimately it how the carpark system works. There are numerous carpark system mainly, Sun Japan, Wei Long, Memcomb etc.. So it really how they are programmed.

 

i give an example where i always try this; at imm. at entry, go thru the proper way, at exit, the bar is short so can sqeeze thru. next day still go thru the proper way, dont seem to have any problem.

[Lim Ah Wan]

Everytime you go thru the EPS system (go in carpark), the system will capture your IU number, date and time of entrance. From here they can calculate the amount based on your exit as your IU will also be scanned then.

 

So let say you managed to sneak out, you will still be consider inside the carpark all these while as there is no exit record. So the next time you go in, you may have to pay the amount starting from the last time you ride into the carpark. So you better pray their system will erase their record once in a while. But normally they will keep for a long time.

 

Plus they always have camera at the entrace and exit. This can be served as an evidence against you should you try to cheat the carpark system. There is 2 ways I can think of to avoid paying but at your own risk. Normally if do once or twice, I THINK they will close one eye. But if you are caught doing alot of times, then they might take action against you provided they can film you in action.

 

By the way, if you see attentance inside the carpark, normally it on Sun or public holiday where they will summon those non season ticket holder parking on season lots only.

 

Not Exactly True Ah. If You Sneak Out, The Next Time You Wanna Enter Again, Its Consider As A "New Entry". They Wont Charge You For The Previous One. And Also, Dun Sneak Out At The Gantry There Lahh. There Got Camera! Hahaha. Use Pavement Or Sumthing Elsewhere That Has Loopholes Like Thru Voidecks Or Sumthing.

 

The Only Way To Get Caught Is If HDB Do Spotcheck Then Caught U Redhanded. Fine I Heard Is $50. But, I Work McRider & My Management Says One Hougang Rider Was Caught & Fined $1000. He Showed A Copy Of The Fine To My Colleagues As A Warning To Us.

[Team_Commander]

my block downstairs also eps...

 

i can leave my bike there for 2 weeks (went overseas) returned next day to take out, the barrier just opened(season parking).

 

as long as season parking for that period of time no problem u can leave there for as long as u can...

 

my place always hard to go in as it is always full and bloody car drivers just go to the barrier and wait till it opens up.

 

What i do is squeeze in by the side...

 

when exit no problem too, the system captures the iu and open barrier to allow me to exit.

 

After i brought my S4, i didn't buy any season parking for my sp.

 

and there won;t be any attend coming down to check. good thing.

 

never kana summon to for the rest of the period.

[arthur_chan]

From the photo, it is more clear. It is for car only. Normally you will write disclaimer or term and condition below of the main article right? As for this case, it is for car.

 

cos if u notice the spacing placement, after the car fees, there's a big gap, while from the motor fee, it's very close. there's also no line indicating where that paragraph is for.

 

so if it's for car, does it mean $2 max for cars? it would mean it's a very good deal for opc, say in 1mth u only use like 10 times, so ur parking like $20.

[NaRuTo13]

Not Exactly True Ah. If You Sneak Out, The Next Time You Wanna Enter Again, Its Consider As A "New Entry". They Wont Charge You For The Previous One. And Also, Dun Sneak Out At The Gantry There Lahh. There Got Camera! Hahaha. Use Pavement Or Sumthing Elsewhere That Has Loopholes Like Thru Voidecks Or Sumthing.

 

The Only Way To Get Caught Is If HDB Do Spotcheck Then Caught U Redhanded. Fine I Heard Is $50. But, I Work McRider & My Management Says One Hougang Rider Was Caught & Fined $1000. He Showed A Copy Of The Fine To My Colleagues As A Warning To Us.

 

btw i read before in news article. the only method building owner can get bikers who get caught to pay is only when they file legal suit. which is to say the cost is higher, thus generally no one bother, as biker is still minority.

 

unless u get caught on the spot by the management, but even so what can they do? cos in the above example they cant force u to pay unless going for legal suit, unless red handed with police arrival, simplest is to pay the current charge so everyone not troublesome, personally, building owner , police.

 

 

camera or records proven u enter but exit or capture u exit through squeezing/tailgating is useless if they can only retrieve the payment through legal suit, how much can they get, 65cents or $1 only for most car park.

[arthur_chan]

camera or records proven u enter but exit or capture u exit through squeezing/tailgating is useless if they can only retrieve the payment through legal suit, how much can they get, 65cents or $1 only for most car park.

 

if they can fine u like $1k, it most justify for the legal suit.

[NaRuTo13]

if they can fine u like $1k, it most justify for the legal suit.

 

maybe? duno.

 

news article is local de. except its dated quite awhile back. it make no economical sense based on the report even the building owners agreed.

[contrarian]

btw i read before in news article. the only method building owner can get bikers who get caught to pay is only when they file legal suit. which is to say the cost is higher, thus generally no one bother, as biker is still minority.

 

unless u get caught on the spot by the management, but even so what can they do? cos in the above example they cant force u to pay unless going for legal suit, unless red handed with police arrival, simplest is to pay the current charge so everyone not troublesome, personally, building owner , police.

 

camera or records proven u enter but exit or capture u exit through squeezing/tailgating is useless if they can only retrieve the payment through legal suit, how much can they get, 65cents or $1 only for most car park.

 

Most CP operators in this situation would wait for you to enter the next time, and then clamp you. By causing maximum inconvenience to you, that is their most effective way of getting their money back.

[Lim Ah Wan]

Well It All Depends On Which Carpark You Park One Lahh. Diff Owners Will Know Best What To Do After Observing Their Situation.