Chain - General Enquiry

[William Tan]

Originally posted by enHANZed@Apr 12 2005, 01:57 AM

no chain can last long w/o proper lubing ... so your question should be asking yourself...how commited are u to lubing ur chain frequently (unless u have a scott oiler) ... if lazy bum...get a normal chain ...not so lazy bum....O ring....if you siao on garang one clean/wash/wax/polish/lube bike everyday ...get X-ring

 

the difference between o ring and x ring is ...imagine this ...O ring equal piaking ur gf when she sleeping.....x-ring equal piaking ur gf with KY+lots of juice ....which one got more friction ? ...go figure

On the contary....

 

The cheapest chain (so called heavy-duty chain) requires the most lubing and cleaning. Why? They do not trap the lube as efficiently as the X and O-rings.

 

Why are O-ring chain called O-ring chain? Basically, in-between each chain pieces, there's a piece of O-ring that reduces the friction between the chain pieces and at the same time trapping the lube there and keeping the dust and grit out. What is an O-ring? Basically its a piece of rubber ring, shaped in an O. Look out for it the next time you change your chain.

 

X-ring has the same concept as the O-ring except this time the piece of rubber ring is shaped differently thus allowing it to reduce even more friction, and trapping more lube between the chain pieces.

 

The O-ring and X-ring between the chain pieces also acts as a damping for sudden acceleration and engine brake. This reduces the stretch thus tightening need not be so frequent.

 

So you see, the "trapping lube" properties of O-ring and X-ring makes it much more convenient to maintain. Lubing need not be that frequent (once every 500km). In fact, from my experience, over-lubing the chain causes much more side effects. Never think that by putting more lube on the chain, the longer it will last.

 

When you over-lube, even more dust and grit will cling on. Then either you clean, your chain or you change your chain. When you clean your chain, certain substances used might damage the o-ring (Duh! it's rubbber!) or X-ring and cause more harm than good.

 

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[William Tan]

Another thing, ask yourself, whats your riding style? Issit really necessary to get a X-ring? Or is an O-ring good enough?

[Guest NPNT]

Originally posted by enHANZed@Apr 12 2005, 01:57 AM

the difference between o ring and x ring is ...imagine this ...O ring equal piaking ur gf when she sleeping.....x-ring equal piaking ur gf with KY+lots of juice ....which one got more friction ? ...go figure

pre-marital sex is a sin.

[Guest bomerman81]

x-ring best...... :thumb:

[calyban]

Originally posted by William Tan@Apr 12 2005, 07:21 AM

 

So you see, the "trapping lube" properties of O-ring and X-ring makes it much more convenient to maintain. Lubing need not be that frequent (once every 500km). In fact, from my experience, over-lubing the chain causes much more side effects. Never think that by putting more lube on the chain, the longer it will last.

 

When you over-lube, even more dust and grit will cling on. Then either you clean, your chain or you change your chain. When you clean your chain, certain substances used might damage the o-ring (Duh! it's rubbber!) or X-ring and cause more harm than good.

 

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Depends oso on the type of lube used..

Those sticky aerosols like rockoil really can attract grits man!

But if use EO then more and frequent would be better for the chain, gd lubricant but tends to fling so dirt gets flung off too... onto the rims, haha! (but i prefer dirty rims to dirty chains)

 

[pigsmu]

Heard that X ring is for big bikes issit? Super 4 use O ring can liao?

 

That time buy from ah boy he say O ring is good enuf, then the DID box also got say X ring for 800cc and above.

 

How come leh???

[mamat]

I agree using O-ring is gd enuff if riding ur bike for daily transport.The shops usually rekomend u to use it or x ring along with ur non-original sprockets.

 

a fren of mine who has ridden several bikes says thru his xperience ,that the STOCK sprockets and chain lasts the longest.Once u replace them,no matter what brand,they cannot last as long.

 

Interesting eh

[William Tan]

Original sprockets are expensive....

[William Tan]

Originally posted by pigsmu@Apr 12 2005, 07:03 PM

That time buy from ah boy he say O ring is good enuf, then the DID box also got say X ring for 800cc and above.

 

Well, warm bullshits are the main reasons why i do not buy stuff from LAB especially when that part is critical componet that affects performance and safety.

[-HANZ-]

X ring and original sprockets with regular cleaning & lubrication is the

 

1.5yrs liao think clean and strong.. no tightening needed..

[Chinthe]

Hi guys & gals,

 

any idea where i can buy chain clip...I was shocking to find out that my chain clip was gone. Yesterday, when i was lubricating my bike n realised... :giddy:

 

pls pls tell me if u know where to buy..

 

dun knoe when it was gone... but recently i came back from cameroon highland trip. on de way back to s'pore one of de S4 also got same prob. Chain clip gone..

 

any1 of u encounter dis b4... is it commom prob for s4:confused:

 

dun knoe why... izzit bcos too many coner n the chain is abit loose???

 

 

:help:

[anodise57]

yo yo bro.. long time no see... take care man

 

probably u check out with ya bike shop...... don think u can get off shelf any place... cos it comes with the chain when u install......

[Alvin.Y]

Originally posted by Chinthe@May 30 2005, 08:41 AM

Hi guys & gals,

 

any idea where i can buy chain clip...I was shocking to find out that my chain clip was gone. Yesterday, when i was lubricating my bike n realised... :giddy:

 

pls pls tell me if u know where to buy..

 

dun knoe when it was gone... but recently i came back from cameroon highland trip. on de way back to s'pore one of de S4 also got same prob. Chain clip gone..

 

any1 of u encounter dis b4... is it commom prob for s4:confused:

 

dun knoe why... izzit bcos too many coner n the chain is abit loose???

 

 

:help:

what is this chain clip?

[Chinthe]

Originally posted by anodise57@May 30 2005, 09:22 AM

yo yo bro.. long time no see... take care man

 

probably u check out with ya bike shop...... don think u can get off shelf any place... cos it comes with the chain when u install......

U too man....thanks :smile:

 

ya lor long time cannot come to de gathering oreadi... occupied wif alot of things lei.. :cry:

 

abt de chain clip may be need to go to bike workshop in this case....

 

thanks

[Chinthe]

Originally posted by Al-demon@May 30 2005, 10:01 AM

what is this chain clip?

its a locking mechanism to hold the joint of chain from breaking off..

 

when u buy a chain it doesn't come as a loop. meaning with two ends to cater for certain required chain length. so when bike shop fix a chain to ur bike they need to close a loop. then they install the one segment of a chain n then put a chain clip to prevent it from running away..

[kennethy]

I heard that you can buy chain that dun use clip. was a LAB last week and one of the guy came to ask for the 'chain but dun want the one that use the clip sort'.

 

anyone have something to share on that sort of chain?

[Chinthe]

hi pal,

thanks for reply.

i got it from nearby workshop at amk ave3.. they are very nice give me FOC.

 

i think i will prepare at least 2-3 pcs b4 next trip... :giddy:

[calvin_haito]

hi ALL ,

 

recently went to tighten my chain... after tighten, the chain sound very noisy so when back to my mech. He told mi that my chain gone liao, need to be replace.

He told mi that when spinning the wheel some part of the chain is rather tight & some very loose.

don't really understand wat he talking but he told mi to change the chain cos my spocket is rather ok ...

 

how anyone encounter the same problem before and wat you actual deal with it ???

 

calvin

[redname]

if wanna change, must change chain & spocket together, if ur mech said only chain change can liao tht means he knows nuts

[Guest CasI-I]

Originally posted by calvin_haito@Jun 6 2005, 01:26 PM

hi ALL ,

 

recently went to tighten my chain... after tighten, the chain sound very noisy so when back to my mech. He told mi that my chain gone liao, need to be replace.

He told mi that when spinning the wheel some part of the chain is rather tight & some very loose.

don't really understand wat he talking but he told mi to change the chain cos my spocket is rather ok ...

 

how anyone encounter the same problem before and wat you actual deal with it ???

 

calvin

most likely your front spockets are gone. i face the same situation as you previously.

[chrislayer]

advisable to change one set...

[ketten hunde]

time to change.

[Manzz]

It is 'advisable' to change the whole set however not 'necessary'.

 

The wear of the chain and wear of the sprocket is not the same due to maybe the history of the bike's parts replacement..(maybe last time change one part but not the other)

 

Therefore if the teeth of the sprocket still okie, why waste $$ change the whole set?.. It all boils down to how much u trust your mech. Before changing the sprocket, I suggest u ask for other's opinions and let them have a look at your sprocket(those who know how to see the condition).

 

It may also be the front sprocket only like what CasI-I said. So ask a few parties to look at your sprocket and then decide whether to change or not..

 

Hope this helps..

[raven77]

Originally posted by calvin_haito@Jun 6 2005, 01:26 PM

hi ALL ,

 

recently went to tighten my chain... after tighten, the chain sound very noisy so when back to my mech. He told mi that my chain gone liao, need to be replace.

He told mi that when spinning the wheel some part of the chain is rather tight & some very loose.

don't really understand wat he talking but he told mi to change the chain cos my spocket is rather ok ...

 

how anyone encounter the same problem before and wat you actual deal with it ???

 

calvin

i faced the same problem before.. the chain alway bite on my rear spocket ..

 

the tight part of the chain is where the sound is coming from...

 

better change it and oil urs chain 1 time in 2 weeks to pro-long the chain life span...

[redname]

Originally posted by BoyanPower@Jun 6 2005, 10:21 PM

It is 'advisable' to change the whole set however not 'necessary'.

 

The wear of the chain and wear of the sprocket is not the same due to maybe the history of the bike's parts replacement..(maybe last time change one part but not the other)

 

Therefore if the teeth of the sprocket still okie, why waste $$ change the whole set?.. It all boils down to how much u trust your mech. Before changing the sprocket, I suggest u ask for other's opinions and let them have a look at your sprocket(those who know how to see the condition).

 

It may also be the front sprocket only like what CasI-I said. So ask a few parties to look at your sprocket and then decide whether to change or not..

 

Hope this helps..

if u jus change the chain or spocket only, u'll speed up the wear & tear