===Woodlands===

[Tyrian]

i am around..

[Eeleenz]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Jan 4 2006, 09:44 PM

Dear Eeleenz,

 

I have told many girls/ladies/fren's wife/fren's gf about this and it still holds truth.

 

FACTS: Why are track safer than the open public rd???

 

1. First of all, you need the right gears to be allowed onto the track, ie to say Fullface helmet, gloves, boots, minimal jeans and an armoured jacket. The prefered is of course, a racing suit.

 

2. Track is a location designed with engineering aspect to have proper run off (no trees, lampposts, mailbox, etc), in case of a crash, riders would just slide to safety. Run offs also helps as an experienced rider could just simply straighten the bike and slowly recover back on tracks.

 

3. The tarmac on a track is level, though not perfect, but way better than public roads...ie to say no pot holes, no manholes, no long stainless steel drain cover, no white lines nor arrows, etc. The asphalt is also rougher, thus providing more grip than public rd, which in turn hurts the pocket cuz they chew up tyres so fast.

 

4. IMPORTANTLY, during a session, only EITHER cars ONLY, or bikes ONLY. Riders hardly get ran over. Never seen a rider wearing a suit with tyre marks yet.

 

5. IMPORTANTLY, everybody goes in the same direction. You are free to use the WHOLE track without worrying of any oncoming vehicle.

 

Sister, lots of ppl have misconceptions about track, thinking it's a place to race. YES, it's a place to organise race because it's proven safer than doing it on the public road. Look at Isle Of Mann TT race on the public road....every year, a particuliar racer will die racing because there's no run off and public road is not meant for racing bikes!!! Look at MotoGP and World Superbike race.....seasons and seasons have passed, fatality is rare. The last MotoGP racer who died was the talented young Japanese racer #74 Dajiro Kato. That's like 2002 or 2003 I think. And Isle Of Mann TT is only once a yr event.

 

Track, when not organising races, is actually opened up for bookings by riding/driving schools (yes, professional schools to teach PROPER handling of machines), and to the open public to have fun rides, or self practise.

 

Why riders ride in the first place??? We like the thrill, we like the freedom, and some would admit, they love the speed. I for one, love the feel of leaning over my machine and make full use of my tyres to the edges. I USED to be a fan of Marina South, and Woodlands Ave 2 exit. But had a few close calls because of sandy road surfaces and debris, and luckily I never crashed. I called all these fun then, and it's before yr 2000. After that I went to States and had fun with cars.

 

UNTIL the day I finally got a chance to go PG in 2004 (Yes I wanted so much to, but no chance, and no one is free to bring me along), I am so in awe of the layout of the track itself. Had a good time and was slowly learning the track. I lay on my bed that night and start thinking of what I did last time, playing corners on the public road.....It was so stupid.

 

Why??? First, I only had jeans, fullface and gloves, that's all!!!! Maybe boots at times, but Dr Mart boots are nothing compared to my racing boots now.....If I fall, I'm sure to see blood.....secondly, a crash that involved the police would also means my license bye bye. Thirdly, what if I actually cause harm to other road users??? It is simply not fair that other commuters who wanted to go home safely but I screwed up their day, right??? Fourth, if I fall, I could get myself flung towards trees, lamppost, mailbox, KERB (quite a few riders killed when the head whack the kerb). EVEN if I do not hit anything, I risked getting ran over, like the rider with fullsuit who skidded at Clementi and got ran over by lorry. Suit also cannot save him, I think T Shirt and Jeans.....you go figure.

 

Many riders are like me...if we do not go track, the open road shall be our track. With the above mentioned harzards, going to a track is a safer place. HONESTLY, track is a better place to fall on a bike because so far, among my frens who go track, no one died on the track. But YES, frens do die on the road. I have many rider frens, and I've been riding for quite a while, I'm stating facts. I'm not cursing any of my frens, but so far, have you heard of a Song Kar for any rider who died in Pasir Gudang or Sepang??? So far only our late Sg national racer Gerry Looi, whom I mention out of respect, but he died DURING a race. Maybe you ask your dad about Thomson Rd and Gerry Looi, he might know. I dunno I'm born yet or not also.

 

I have told my wife, and I told her that my responsibility is that I will not do anything STUPID, or out of pure pride to put myself in danger. If I fall due to my riding mistake, so be it. I have all the protective gears not to act pro, but to be SAFE. I believe some riders in Woodlands COULD have seen me riding to and fro PG in my red and black suit. Some gave me the look like I was trying to act pro, but sorry, I'm just trying to be safe because I am not looking forward to my wife taking care of me at home.

 

From my own eyes, the bulk of riders at track are also elder riders.....40yrs old and above. You think they have no families too??? They do not love their kids and wife??? I'm sure they do, because after track, they dun hang around to chitchat but go home to their families.

 

As a rider who crashed before at track and at the S Bend before Plaza Singapura (yes, I was playing corner then), my crashed at the track got my bike a week's MC while I walk away with a blue black on my right butt cheek. The incident at 1997 outside Plaza Singapura, my bike got 1 day MC while I myself also got 1 day MC, but the wounds lasted for more than a month, and part of the scars still stay. Can show you when we go kopi. I'm not joking....the suit makes the difference. I walked away safely from a worse crash while the not so serious crash left me in pain for a month.

 

Then why backside so itchy go track and crash the bike??? We push the bike and the rider harder than we do on the road, and we learn new things. Things that we never came across when riding normally. So when things dun seems right with the bike's behavior, we react accordingly instead of freaking out in panic. It's proven track riders have better subconcious reactions, have the habit of looking ahead. Falling at a track, we get up and walked away, pondering what went wrong. While crashing on a public rd could just leave us lying in an ambulance thinking of what's dear in our life.

 

Last but not least, I rather all the crashes I will have in my whole life to be at the track, and none on the road because I do not pillon on the track.

woow~ finally finish readin.

 

hmm~ ya. agree wif wat u said. some of my frenz oso told mi e same thing.

ya.. wearin a suit is very safe. can protect skin... but my case... too late. sob!

[CBRmichaelRR]

Originally posted by Tyrian@Jan 5 2006, 09:21 AM

i am around..

so when can do for me photo taking session?hehe.. i wanted to take many.. some post in my sales and other keep as sovenier lei.. i afraid i will mis my baby..

[Tyrian]

Originally posted by CBRmichaelRR@Jan 5 2006, 01:43 PM

so when can do for me photo taking session?hehe.. i wanted to take many.. some post in my sales and other keep as sovenier lei.. i afraid i will mis my baby..

i'm free now until around 5pm or so..

[CBRmichaelRR]

Originally posted by Tyrian@Jan 5 2006, 12:44 PM

i'm free now until around 5pm or so..

sure? ok u want me go to ur block or u come over?

[Tyrian]

i go over la.. i'm charging my batt now coz too long nvr use cannot switch on.. ahahahaha.. hmmm, 1pm meet can? juz tell me where u wan meet..

 

 

unless u wan my 6230 HP cam, i can meet now.. which one u wan? 6230 HP cam or panasonic lumix 2MP cam?

[CBRmichaelRR]

Originally posted by Tyrian@Jan 5 2006, 12:49 PM

i go over la.. i'm charging my batt now coz too long nvr use cannot switch on.. ahahahaha.. hmmm, 1pm meet can? juz tell me where u wan meet..

 

 

unless u wan my 6230 HP cam, i can meet now.. which one u wan? 6230 HP cam or panasonic lumix 2MP cam?

u come over ar? then i meet u at my carpark 5th floor can? any cam will do.. thanks bro! when u coming over u msg me k. see u later..

[Tyrian]

came back home after foto taking and makan with michael..

[CBRmichaelRR]

Originally posted by Tyrian@Jan 5 2006, 03:19 PM

came back home after foto taking and makan with michael..

[lance666]

wah... u all meet bo jio...

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by CBRmichaelRR@Jan 5 2006, 12:43 PM

so when can do for me photo taking session?hehe.. i wanted to take many.. some post in my sales and other keep as sovenier lei.. i afraid i will mis my baby..

Yeah, and I'll try my BESTEST BEST to organise a track day JUST for your baby It's like, a full month celebration, that your baby finally grow up liao and have the ability to ride a couple of fun laps at PG

 

So guys who have been thinking and talking, shall we support the next coming trip to PG organised by me to celebrate with Michael's baby??? Cuz if you dun, once the bike is gone from his hands, there will be no more chance. Maybe you could see it on the road again, but it's not longer the same Woodlands CBR1000RR anymore

 

So please come.....it's only a joyride, not a race at all. There's no qualifications and no standards to meet to join us at the track.

[lance666]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Jan 4 2006, 09:44 PM

Dear Eeleenz,

 

I have told many girls/ladies/fren's wife/fren's gf about this and it still holds truth.

 

FACTS: Why are track safer than the open public rd???

 

1. First of all, you need the right gears to be allowed onto the track, ie to say Fullface helmet, gloves, boots, minimal jeans and an armoured jacket. The prefered is of course, a racing suit.

 

2. Track is a location designed with engineering aspect to have proper run off (no trees, lampposts, mailbox, etc), in case of a crash, riders would just slide to safety. Run offs also helps as an experienced rider could just simply straighten the bike and slowly recover back on tracks.

 

3. The tarmac on a track is level, though not perfect, but way better than public roads...ie to say no pot holes, no manholes, no long stainless steel drain cover, no white lines nor arrows, etc. The asphalt is also rougher, thus providing more grip than public rd, which in turn hurts the pocket cuz they chew up tyres so fast.

 

4. IMPORTANTLY, during a session, only EITHER cars ONLY, or bikes ONLY. Riders hardly get ran over. Never seen a rider wearing a suit with tyre marks yet.

 

5. IMPORTANTLY, everybody goes in the same direction. You are free to use the WHOLE track without worrying of any oncoming vehicle.

 

Sister, lots of ppl have misconceptions about track, thinking it's a place to race. YES, it's a place to organise race because it's proven safer than doing it on the public road. Look at Isle Of Mann TT race on the public road....every year, a particuliar racer will die racing because there's no run off and public road is not meant for racing bikes!!! Look at MotoGP and World Superbike race.....seasons and seasons have passed, fatality is rare. The last MotoGP racer who died was the talented young Japanese racer #74 Dajiro Kato. That's like 2002 or 2003 I think. And Isle Of Mann TT is only once a yr event.

 

Track, when not organising races, is actually opened up for bookings by riding/driving schools (yes, professional schools to teach PROPER handling of machines), and to the open public to have fun rides, or self practise.

 

Why riders ride in the first place??? We like the thrill, we like the freedom, and some would admit, they love the speed. I for one, love the feel of leaning over my machine and make full use of my tyres to the edges. I USED to be a fan of Marina South, and Woodlands Ave 2 exit. But had a few close calls because of sandy road surfaces and debris, and luckily I never crashed. I called all these fun then, and it's before yr 2000. After that I went to States and had fun with cars.

 

UNTIL the day I finally got a chance to go PG in 2004 (Yes I wanted so much to, but no chance, and no one is free to bring me along), I am so in awe of the layout of the track itself. Had a good time and was slowly learning the track. I lay on my bed that night and start thinking of what I did last time, playing corners on the public road.....It was so stupid.

 

Why??? First, I only had jeans, fullface and gloves, that's all!!!! Maybe boots at times, but Dr Mart boots are nothing compared to my racing boots now.....If I fall, I'm sure to see blood.....secondly, a crash that involved the police would also means my license bye bye. Thirdly, what if I actually cause harm to other road users??? It is simply not fair that other commuters who wanted to go home safely but I screwed up their day, right??? Fourth, if I fall, I could get myself flung towards trees, lamppost, mailbox, KERB (quite a few riders killed when the head whack the kerb). EVEN if I do not hit anything, I risked getting ran over, like the rider with fullsuit who skidded at Clementi and got ran over by lorry. Suit also cannot save him, I think T Shirt and Jeans.....you go figure.

 

Many riders are like me...if we do not go track, the open road shall be our track. With the above mentioned harzards, going to a track is a safer place. HONESTLY, track is a better place to fall on a bike because so far, among my frens who go track, no one died on the track. But YES, frens do die on the road. I have many rider frens, and I've been riding for quite a while, I'm stating facts. I'm not cursing any of my frens, but so far, have you heard of a Song Kar for any rider who died in Pasir Gudang or Sepang??? So far only our late Sg national racer Gerry Looi, whom I mention out of respect, but he died DURING a race. Maybe you ask your dad about Thomson Rd and Gerry Looi, he might know. I dunno I'm born yet or not also.

 

I have told my wife, and I told her that my responsibility is that I will not do anything STUPID, or out of pure pride to put myself in danger. If I fall due to my riding mistake, so be it. I have all the protective gears not to act pro, but to be SAFE. I believe some riders in Woodlands COULD have seen me riding to and fro PG in my red and black suit. Some gave me the look like I was trying to act pro, but sorry, I'm just trying to be safe because I am not looking forward to my wife taking care of me at home.

 

From my own eyes, the bulk of riders at track are also elder riders.....40yrs old and above. You think they have no families too??? They do not love their kids and wife??? I'm sure they do, because after track, they dun hang around to chitchat but go home to their families.

 

As a rider who crashed before at track and at the S Bend before Plaza Singapura (yes, I was playing corner then), my crashed at the track got my bike a week's MC while I walk away with a blue black on my right butt cheek. The incident at 1997 outside Plaza Singapura, my bike got 1 day MC while I myself also got 1 day MC, but the wounds lasted for more than a month, and part of the scars still stay. Can show you when we go kopi. I'm not joking....the suit makes the difference. I walked away safely from a worse crash while the not so serious crash left me in pain for a month.

 

Then why backside so itchy go track and crash the bike??? We push the bike and the rider harder than we do on the road, and we learn new things. Things that we never came across when riding normally. So when things dun seems right with the bike's behavior, we react accordingly instead of freaking out in panic. It's proven track riders have better subconcious reactions, have the habit of looking ahead. Falling at a track, we get up and walked away, pondering what went wrong. While crashing on a public rd could just leave us lying in an ambulance thinking of what's dear in our life.

 

Last but not least, I rather all the crashes I will have in my whole life to be at the track, and none on the road because I do not pillon on the track.

WTF? doin essay? :giddy:

[niterider929]

Ya lor! So lo so 1. Wonder who wil read it.

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by Eeleenz@Jan 5 2006, 12:25 PM

woow~ finally finish readin.

 

hmm~ ya. agree wif wat u said. some of my frenz oso told mi e same thing.

ya.. wearin a suit is very safe. can protect skin... but my case... too late. sob!

Use alot of heart and soul to type this long post which comes from the bottom of my heart. You hang around this thread so long, treat you like one of us liao...and treat you like a little sister to me. I put in so much effort because what you post previously hurt a lot of riders who goes track. Riders must be understood, not brainwashed. Like GiGi who would never understand Andy Lau like that..... Though the end it SEEMS like Andy Lau gave up racing, it does not seems to be he gave up bike. Likely is he would still ride around track or just relax relax have fun on the road but with his fullsuit lor

 

Tell you so many things is because in case next time your BF/hubby biker, you tell him like that, he will be very sad. When he sad, he riding, he think think think then "BIANK!!!!" how??? Whose fault??? Whose fault also not important, too late liao. See blood already.

 

And if dun tell you long long story, next time maybe you kana a hot headed rider, he/she might tell you off in a not so nice way, but exactly what I wanna tell you And after that you sian whole day.

 

So you gotten scars from your "flight" huh??? Hope not so obvious. Mine for the first few yrs quite bad....skin 2 tone. Wound area after healing quite dark. Can easily see from far.

 

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by lance666@Jan 5 2006, 07:00 PM

WTF? doin essay? :giddy:

Why?? You buang your scooter, hit your head, eyes now blurry cannot read huh??? Ha ha.....

 

Post short posts all over, ppl make noise say clock post....post long long one, clock only 1 posting also kana

 

 

How's life??? Not sleeping???

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by niterider929@Jan 5 2006, 07:06 PM

Ya lor! So lo so 1. Wonder who wil read it.

Yup, I'm quite lor so. Just like I lor so to you about the Bandit, dun wanna listen....

 

 

Welcome to WaveRiders lor, ha ha.....never MO and get the Polo shirt??? Quite nice leh!!!

[ShAgGy]

think wait til i get my bike back and get a proper suit and everything first ba....

next month can go enrol class 2 le....

yeah!

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by ShAgGy@Jan 5 2006, 07:25 PM

think wait til i get my bike back and get a proper suit and everything first ba....

next month can go enrol class 2 le....

yeah!

By then Michael's bike no more.....get the suit first. Can always take the SP150. Can even arrange my fren to guide you along on his SP150 also. His bike stock. Only brakeline mod to steel braided.

[ShAgGy]

my sp ar.....

cannot la....

have been giving me a lot of problem....

worse than a stock bike now....

hahahaha.....

[sLeEpYhEaDz]

toking abt track ah.. hmmm.. phantom, track, phantom, track.... who wanna pillion mi?

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by sLeEpYhEaDz@Jan 5 2006, 07:52 PM

toking abt track ah.. hmmm.. phantom, track, phantom, track.... who wanna pillion mi?

Ha ha, to the track or in the track???

 

In the track cannot pillon, asked before. Wanted to pillon my wife let her see the track layout but the track manager said no. My wife wearing FF, Armoured jacket, jeans, boots and gloves also cannot leh.

 

So pillon to the track might as well you ride Phantom??? Maybe a bit crazy, ride the Phantom around the track too, for fun. My Wave also go in before....

[NoLogicOne]

Originally posted by ShAgGy@Jan 5 2006, 07:33 PM

my sp ar.....

cannot la....

have been giving me a lot of problem....

worse than a stock bike now....

hahahaha.....

By the time you ready, I sold off my bike and migrate to States already.....

 

I next yr ORD.....no job bike will go for sure.

 

Maybe can go track mill lah.....

[lance666]

Originally posted by NoLogicOne@Jan 5 2006, 07:15 PM

Why?? You buang your scooter, hit your head, eyes now blurry cannot read huh??? Ha ha.....

 

Post short posts all over, ppl make noise say clock post....post long long one, clock only 1 posting also kana

 

 

How's life??? Not sleeping???

buang my ass. touch wood... anyway plan to sell of my bike n get another one soon...

Any of u got fren wanna buy mus tell me

[Replica]

Originally posted by lance666@Jan 5 2006, 10:21 PM

buang my ass. touch wood... anyway plan to sell of my bike n get another one soon...

Any of u got fren wanna buy mus tell me

woodlanders got discount?...

[babyain]

wah friends also want discount? like buying vegetable at market.hehehe...