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SBF Burgmans Cafe 2008 - K1 to K7

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william_liu Newbie

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Fellow 650 riders, I did an EO change today. EO drained from engine is ard 2200ml n 650ml from transmission. I have poured 2640ml + 150ml since last EO change n 360ml for transmission. It seems that the oil from engine has been transferred to the transmission. Do u guys have the same issue?

 

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Scarab Newbie

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Scarab so helpful must be seeing the photo le even more helpful!!! :p will be going to Botak for full servicing soon also...

 

If I based my assistance on the avatar, then :goodluck: to myself.

 

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Scarab Newbie

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Fellow 650 riders, I did an EO change today. EO drained from engine is ard 2200ml n 650ml from transmission. I have poured 2640ml + 150ml since last EO change n 360ml for transmission. It seems that the oil from engine has been transferred to the transmission. Do u guys have the same issue?

 

Read about before buying the burger but don't wanna think about it now... :angel:

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Scarab Newbie

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ok thanks alot! i just discussed this issue with my dad. he says he is bringing me to his fren's shop. not sure where though.

 

will update u guys. thanks so much

 

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william_liu Newbie

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Read about before buying the burger but don't wanna think about it now... :angel:

 

Just top up engine oil more a bit, then transmission top up less a bit, so in the end balanced.... :lol:

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Keynes Newbie

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Fellow 650 riders, I did an EO change today. EO drained from engine is ard 2200ml n 650ml from transmission. I have poured 2640ml + 150ml since last EO change n 360ml for transmission. It seems that the oil from engine has been transferred to the transmission. Do u guys have the same issue?

 

Hi friend.

 

Even if all the EO loss goes to the Tx, u still lose (2640 + 150 + 360) - (2200 + 650) = 300 ml oil since last change. As a good guide, EO loss should not be higher than 0.1% of petrol consumption (ratio of lubricating oil versus fuel oil consumption), if the engine is running at its opitimum rpm.

 

If you lose 300 ml EO every 4500 km (interval between EO change), in which u consume (4500/22) litres of petrol, u use 0.147 %, which is slightly higher than the guidelines.

 

In that it can be said that the engine is not performing at its optimum (I guess so since u travel at 160 km/hr during the KL trip).

 

Anyway, do keep us posted of the solution you have on this EO migration issue.

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Arcfire Newbie

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Wah, great info there.... i didn't know that there was such a thing.

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adr77 Newbie

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Read about before buying the burger but don't wanna think about it now... :angel:

 

yup no abt it b4 i bought it but thought not all has that prob n i mayb the lucky one...

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Hi friend.

 

Even if all the EO loss goes to the Tx, u still lose (2640 + 150 + 360) - (2200 + 650) = 300 ml oil since last change. As a good guide, EO loss should not be higher than 0.1% of petrol consumption (ratio of lubricating oil versus fuel oil consumption), if the engine is running at its opitimum rpm.

 

If you lose 300 ml EO every 4500 km (interval between EO change), in which u consume (4500/22) litres of petrol, u use 0.147 %, which is slightly higher than the guidelines.

 

In that it can be said that the engine is not performing at its optimum (I guess so since u travel at 160 km/hr during the KL trip).

 

Anyway, do keep us posted of the solution you have on this EO migration issue.

 

Wa i really like ur way of presenting the issues with equations, like the last time u tot me on deriving on the actual bike value. So far suggestion from burgmanusa.com was either to top up EO wen u c it below the low mark on EO sight glass or simply use dino oil n change every 3000km interval. I tink i will follow the 1st one...BTW they did mentioned tat this bike burn EO at speeds after 70miles/h.

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Keynes Newbie

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Hi.

 

But will the engine oil low indicator (I pressume there is one in the high-tech burgman 650) light up when the EO level is near the lower mark? Or will it light up only when it is below the lower mark? It would be quite irritating right, if every here and then the engine oil level low indicator lights up.

 

BTW, I think the EO consmuption of ur bike is alright, only the EO migration upsets me quite a bit (because I should be a future burgman 650 owner). I mean, this scooter is not cheap and already give us this EO migration issue, not sure if any future more serious problems might arise.

 

BTW, do you change Tx oil when u change your EO. My concern is, with this EO migration issue, if u just change EO wo changing Tx oil, wouldn't the old Tx oil flows back to the engine crankcase and mix with the new EO, that will defeat the purpose of changing EO, right?

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fooz Newbie

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ok, this sounds like a trival issue... compared to the topics u guys are discussing.

 

but , do u guys use bike cover?

any particular brand? looking for smething waterproof (of coz) and heatproof frm the exhuast (mine has a gaping hole )

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william_liu Newbie

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Mine has a gaping hole too... I just ignore that... so far I've been using the M-Fizz brand bought from LAB... for the price, quite okay lah

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fooz Newbie

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hw much?

 

cannot ignore leh.. noe why? ...

coz the tear ride up to the top! machiam freeshow.

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william_liu Newbie

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Errr... think that's because your cover is quite old right? Usually the cover will only start to tear when the material wears thin.... :faint:

 

Anyway the pricing is 20+, if I didn't rem wrongly.

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william_liu Newbie

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Michelin Gold Standard, best tyres I've used so far

 

Size: 110/90 13 (front) and 130/70 13 (rear)

 

Price depends, average about 200~220 for front and rear.

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JoieRider Newbie

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thanks so much for the input. much appreciated.

 

as i do not haf the manual, im not sure wat pressure shld go into the front and rear. could u fill me up that as well? :D

william_liu Newbie

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Manual states: 175 kPa (25psi) for front and 200 kPa (29psi) rear for solo riding, 175 kPa (25psi) for front and 280 kPa (41psi) for two-up riding.

 

For me I run 175 kPa front and 240 kPa rear.

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william_liu Newbie

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Mine is the K3 model owner's manual, if you want I can lend you to photocopy... I also have the service manual, but also for K3 model.

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william_liu Newbie

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Anybody interested in sharing the Motul 300V 10W40 oil on promotion?? :cheeky:

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JoieRider Newbie

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Mine is the K3 model owner's manual, if you want I can lend you to photocopy... I also have the service manual, but also for K3 model.

 

what do u mean by k3? i thought all burgman 400s are the same?

ah_huats Newbie

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what do u mean by k3? i thought all burgman 400s are the same?

 

Big No-No...

 

Burgman 250/400 have at least 3 generation, "pre K3", "k3 to K6" and "k7 and above".

william_liu Newbie

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Nope, goto this website: http://www.suzukicycles.org

 

And look for Skywave/Burgman, you'll be able to see the history of the models of Burgmans.

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