SBF Silverwings Cafe 2008 - JDM/Euro 400/600

[scoobydoo]

Thks bro for the infos! Mmmm.... a little confusing here.... did asked ASP n the guy claimed tat the new bike's from BS. I suppose tat will b the JDM model. PIs like Loois and Mah could be getting the Euros?

 

I've oso heard of BP offering quite a gd deal on their bikes as a couple of my frenz gotten theirs from there.

+ Mah & BP said their SW are from BS

+ Looi's don't bring in PI but get their SW from BS (confirmed with Ah Lee few weeks ago)

+ BS brings in only FJS400 Euro (confirmed with Andrew last week coz was there to check bike & collect warranty card)

= Euro FJS400

 

personally, i went many places before narrowing down to either Looi's or BP; Bt Merah (NS, FM, IM), Serangn (BP, ASP, Mah, CA), KK Bt (Looi's).

... BP quoted best price but i was very annoyed with the add this add that surprises; maybe also my fault for not being crystal clear before Ah Swee make quote, or maybe he's not happy with me coz i initially wanted to buy a new Deauville NT700 (with loan) but later change to the cheaper SW (no loan)

... Looi's quoted more expensive but hassle free OTR price

... Mah gotta wait for new stock to come in at that time

 

if price is a main concern, suggest don't skip BP... but remember to get a final price coz their OTR is not the same as others' OTR "compare apple to apple" e.g. BP's OTR don't include IU, give only 3P insurance while Looi's got IU and gives 3PFT

 

I'm sure you'll like a pleasent deal when collecting your new ride.

 

When I collected mine from Loois, rode in my old machine & rode out my new SW in less den 15 mins. Pleasent

me too, had a pleasant dealing with Looi's... one OTR price, no more no less no surprises.

passed them cheque for agreed OTR price, check bike and ride off a satisfied customer

[scoobydoo]

Yes, I been noticing more and more Silverwing on the west side

 

Hey, why tuesday ? Sat can ?

weekday at KKFC becos easy for pp to get to a central location after work ... already out mah

if weekend, gotta specially make a trip out

 

i don't mind weekends especially if west... how about makan joint at Choa Chu Kang Park (next to KJE)???

[paithorn]

just wanna share too.... my homework recently for my SW project.....

 

ASP Changi $12800 OTR w/o Insurance with Box 08 model

Looi's $12500 OTR with Insrance w/o Box 07 model (Black and Silver avail)

 

 

Anyone with new info can add here for us all to compare instead of making lots of calls?

[scoobydoo]

ASP Changi $12800 OTR w/o Insurance with Box 08 model

Looi's $12500 OTR with Insrance w/o Box 07 model (Black and Silver avail)

assuming 3PFT insurance cost about $500, and top box costs $150:

ASP's price $12,800 + $600 = $13,300

Looi's price $12,500 + $150 = $12,650

... $650 difference

 

would you pay additional $650 to get an 08 model instead of 07 model, both of which are the same other than year or manufacture (according to BS)? its a matter of personal preference

[siambee]

Date: 17 June 08 (Tuesday)

Time: 7.30pm onwards

Place: Kallang KFC

Objectives: meet new friends, look-see look-see other SWingers' gadgets, share tips on maintenance/mods/add-ons, TCSS, etc.

 

(nick/ride/contact)

1. scoobydoo / FJS400 / 90112330

2. siambee / FJS400 / 98456357

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u have my support for the effort of organising...

[Sensible]

weekday at KKFC becos easy for pp to get to a central location after work ... already out mah

if weekend, gotta specially make a trip out

 

i don't mind weekends especially if west... how about makan joint at Choa Chu Kang Park (next to KJE)???

 

Hee... Dun forget about east-siders too lei..

[MV]

+ Mah & BP said their SW are from BS

+ Looi's don't bring in PI but get their SW from BS (confirmed with Ah Lee few weeks ago)

+ BS brings in only FJS400 Euro (confirmed with Andrew last week coz was there to check bike & collect warranty card)

= Euro FJS400

 

personally, i went many places before narrowing down to either Looi's or BP; Bt Merah (NS, FM, IM), Serangn (BP, ASP, Mah, CA), KK Bt (Looi's).

... BP quoted best price but i was very annoyed with the add this add that surprises; maybe also my fault for not being crystal clear before Ah Swee make quote, or maybe he's not happy with me coz i initially wanted to buy a new Deauville NT700 (with loan) but later change to the cheaper SW (no loan)

... Looi's quoted more expensive but hassle free OTR price

... Mah gotta wait for new stock to come in at that time

 

if price is a main concern, suggest don't skip BP... but remember to get a final price coz their OTR is not the same as others' OTR "compare apple to apple" e.g. BP's OTR don't include IU, give only 3P insurance while Looi's got IU and gives 3PFT

 

 

me too, had a pleasant dealing with Looi's... one OTR price, no more no less no surprises.

passed them cheque for agreed OTR price, check bike and ride off a satisfied customer

 

Thks for the feedback bro!

 

Anyway, I've more or less secured the deal with Looi's today. Initially juz wanted to check out the price but after a quick run thru of thoughts and breakdown of OTR price by Mr Lee, I've decided to close the deal wif them at 12.8k. Should be collecting my new ride nex or the week after.

[MV]

Another noob qns for those bros who bought their SW brand new, how do u guys run in ur bike? Is running in a maxi scooter the same concept as per sports bike? Please advise. Thks!

[bigcow]

Hee... Dun forget about east-siders too lei..

 

talk so much... now people set in central then u dun put your name in?

[SW9000]

Another noob qns for those bros who bought their SW brand new, how do u guys run in ur bike? Is running in a maxi scooter the same concept as per sports bike? Please advise. Thks!

 

Advisable not to over rpm 5 (90km/h) for 1st 500km. *But must vary your speed, ie. accelerate and decelerate. Don't stay at same speed too long.

After that, just ride normally with smooth pickup and don't whack the rpm.

Bike will feel silky smooth after abt 2000km of running in.

 

I kiasu a bit in my servicing:

100km = engine oil and oil filter change

500km = engine oil, oil filter and gear oil change

1000km = engine oil and oil filter change

2000km = engine oil, oil filter, gear oil and spark plug change.

Run in done.

[bigcow]

Malaysia raises petrol prices by 40%.

Malaysia's petrol price will rise 40 percent to 2.70 ringgit a litre from Thursday.

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific_business/view/351883/1/.html

 

Malaysia plans petrol price hike in August

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/351505/1/.html

[paithorn]

assuming 3PFT insurance cost about $500, and top box costs $150:

ASP's price $12,800 + $600 = $13,300

Looi's price $12,500 + $150 = $12,650

... $650 difference

 

would you pay additional $650 to get an 08 model instead of 07 model, both of which are the same other than year or manufacture (according to BS)? its a matter of personal preference

 

thanks for sharing bro.....i would prefer a 08 machine...

 

btw, would love to meet yo guys next week but just nice tuesday working late.....do you guys stay till very late?

[silverwing73]

Malaysia raises petrol prices by 40%.

Malaysia's petrol price will rise 40 percent to 2.70 ringgit a litre from Thursday.

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific_business/view/351883/1/.html

 

Malaysia plans petrol price hike in August

 

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/351505/1/.html

 

Haizzzz, the news just does not get any better. petrol price raised from tonight midnight to RM2.70 and then come August, might be raised to RM$4. In such case, it would be $1.70 assuming exchange rate of $2.33.

 

No longer make sense to go there to pump already since we are getting about $1.96 with discount from the petrol station and credit card combine.

 

Saving of 0.26 cents per litres vs jam .....

[siambee]

Thks for the feedback bro!

 

Anyway, I've more or less secured the deal with Looi's today. Initially juz wanted to check out the price but after a quick run thru of thoughts and breakdown of OTR price by Mr Lee, I've decided to close the deal wif them at 12.8k. Should be collecting my new ride nex or the week after.

 

welcome bro.. im the last batch newbies purchase from mr lee too.

[Sensible]

talk so much... now people set in central then u dun put your name in?

 

Hee, Relax la bro.

 

I love scoot outings esp when it comes to SW outing (yet to attend one yet).

 

Now confirming minor details from my team such that i will be available for this outing.

 

U joining us too?

U have been in active discussion with the bros here mah..

Dun tell me that yours is not a SW, i know that too... keke..

[scoobydoo]

Advisable not to over rpm 5 (90km/h) for 1st 500km. *But must vary your speed, ie. accelerate and decelerate. Don't stay at same speed too long.

After that, just ride normally with smooth pickup and don't whack the rpm.

Bike will feel silky smooth after abt 2000km of running in.

 

I kiasu a bit in my servicing:

100km = engine oil and oil filter change

500km = engine oil, oil filter and gear oil change

1000km = engine oil and oil filter change

2000km = engine oil, oil filter, gear oil and spark plug change.

Run in done.

if running in for 2k kms is kiasu... then i run in for 3k kms is super kiasu liow

from the owner's manual:

* run in for 500 kms... "avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration"

* change eo at 1k kms, then 12k kms

 

i changed eo & filter at 3k kms, haven't decided when is next change coz heard that maxima maxum4 fully syn eo can last for at least 5k kms under normal usage

anyone also using full synthetics? what's your change interval?

 

 

hi dE_mOd,

since u buying at looi's, go have a chat with ah piau (the chief mech who's usually sitting at the table inside the workshop) and he'll tell you what to do

[bigcow]

Malaysia raises petrol prices by 40% is very true. Just return from my last RM1.92/liter = S$0.82/liter petrol @ GP Esso. After 12 midnight, they have change the prices to;

 

Blue (Regular) - RM2.621/liter = S$1.12/liter

Purple (F1) - RM2.704/liter = S$1.16/liter

[bigcow]

Hee, Relax la bro.

 

I love scoot outings esp when it comes to SW outing (yet to attend one yet).

 

Now confirming minor details from my team such that i will be available for this outing.

 

U joining us too?

U have been in active discussion with the bros here mah..

Dun tell me that yours is not a SW, i know that too... keke..

 

hehe... playing with u la!

will see how. got ops coming up. so got to see my schedule also. also provided u going and if there are other makes going also. i dun like to be the odd one out. haha.....

[Sensible]

Malaysia raises petrol prices by 40% is very true. Just return from my last RM1.92/liter = S$0.82/liter petrol @ GP Esso. After 12 midnight, they have change the prices to;

 

Blue (Regular) - RM2.621/liter = S$1.12/liter

Purple (F1) - RM2.704/liter = S$1.16/liter

 

Hope the Malaysia Govt crumble under pressure from the public and will revert the decision....

 

Must re-calculate and see if its worth to go in for east-siders like me liao...

[bigcow]

Hope the Malaysia Govt crumble under pressure from the public and will revert the decision....

 

Must re-calculate and see if its worth to go in for east-siders like me liao...

 

Sure still worth it one. Your tank 16 liters leh.... In Singapore, petrol octane 95 is about S$2.20. After 12% discount also about S$1.936++ per liter. But in Malaysia after the rise of petrol to S$1.12 per liter, lets co a calculation, Eg;

 

on a 16 liter tank

Base on Octane 95 in Singapore SPC, S$2.20 * 16 liters = S$35.20. After 12% discount will be S$30.976

 

Base on Mobil F1 in Malaysia, RM2.704 * 16 liter4s = RM43.264 = S$18.568 (Base on exchange rate of S$1 = RM2.33)

 

Thats a total savings of abt S$12.408 = 12 loaves of bread = 41 packets of tissues... hahahahahahahaha..........

If u got smoke, eat or shop, then you'll save even more. So ultimately going touring in Malaysia is still cheap and worth it.

[scoobydoo]

on a 16 liter tank

Base on Octane 95 in Singapore SPC, S$2.20 * 16 liters = S$35.20. After 12% discount will be S$30.976

 

Base on Mobil F1 in Malaysia, RM2.704 * 16 liter4s = RM43.264 = S$18.568 (Base on exchange rate of S$1 = RM2.33)

 

Thats a total savings of abt S$12.408 = 12 loaves of bread = 41 packets of tissues... hahahahahahahaha..........

If u got smoke, eat or shop, then you'll save even more. So ultimately going touring in Malaysia is still cheap and worth it.

agree with the eat, smoke or shop part... but savings in petrol not so much lah

 

not forgetting that:

~ unlikely to pump 16L coz need petrol to get there mah, push luck a bit to pump 15L would be more likely... savings reduced by a little bit

~ need to deduct petrol cost of traveling to/fro JB, higher cost if you live further away from causeway... savings reduced by a small bit

~ need to deduct toll charges if go in via 2nd link (S$1.40 + RM3.20)... savings reduced by a bigger bit (approx S$2.80)

 

[HelmetBOX1605198525]

agree with the eat, smoke or shop part... but savings in petrol not so much lah

 

not forgetting that:

~ unlikely to pump 16L coz need petrol to get there mah, push luck a bit to pump 15L would be more likely... savings reduced by a little bit

~ need to deduct petrol cost of traveling to/fro JB, higher cost if you live further away from causeway... savings reduced by a small bit

~ need to deduct toll charges if go in via 2nd link (S$1.40 + RM3.20)... savings reduced by a bigger bit (approx S$2.80)

 

 

ya i agree with you:angel:

for me my set up cost is like 2.8dollars for toll and 3litre of petrol which is around 3.30dollars assuming is 1.10dollars per litre.

total 6.10dollars.

meaning if i go JB and pump every litre i save around 80cent.

if i pump 10litre i save 8dollars minus 6.10dollars.

total saving 1.90dollars:cry:

 

so sad!

think i will reduce the trip already..

[silverwing73]

Happen to come across this comparing between Burgman Executive and Silverwing.

 

http://onewheeldrive.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=588&Itemid=126

[scoobydoo]

Happen to come across this comparing between Burgman Executive and Silverwing.

 

http://onewheeldrive.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=588&Itemid=126

read that earlier... my first choice was Burgman Exec but decided on SWing becoz its a Honda, plus more within budget

[MV]

Advisable not to over rpm 5 (90km/h) for 1st 500km. *But must vary your speed, ie. accelerate and decelerate. Don't stay at same speed too long.

After that, just ride normally with smooth pickup and don't whack the rpm.

Bike will feel silky smooth after abt 2000km of running in.

 

I kiasu a bit in my servicing:

100km = engine oil and oil filter change

500km = engine oil, oil filter and gear oil change

1000km = engine oil and oil filter change

2000km = engine oil, oil filter, gear oil and spark plug change.

Run in done.

 

if running in for 2k kms is kiasu... then i run in for 3k kms is super kiasu liow

from the owner's manual:

* run in for 500 kms... "avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration"

* change eo at 1k kms, then 12k kms

 

i changed eo & filter at 3k kms, haven't decided when is next change coz heard that maxima maxum4 fully syn eo can last for at least 5k kms under normal usage

anyone also using full synthetics? what's your change interval?

 

 

hi dE_mOd,

since u buying at looi's, go have a chat with ah piau (the chief mech who's usually sitting at the table inside the workshop) and he'll tell you what to do

 

Thks bros for all the replies. Will take note.