Clutch in 2T motorcycles

[benlu]

Does anyone know if the clutch in 2T motorcycles is dry or wet clutch? If wet clutch, is it lubricated by same oil as engine oil?

[ki113r]

Which 2T motorcycle u want to ask about?

[ben1112]

Gearbox oil or 4T oil. The one u pour into the engine.

[benlu]

Which 2T motorcycle u want to ask about?

 

Sorry mate. I last rode a bike more than a decade ago. I am thinking may be I should get a bike again. But I probably need a 'Motorbikes for dummy' to get to know today's motorbikes and all the accessories and fluids and oil and....

[jayz]

Sorry mate. I last rode a bike more than a decade ago. I am thinking may be I should get a bike again. But I probably need a 'Motorbikes for dummy' to get to know today's motorbikes and all the accessories and fluids and oil and....

 

hi. since your last rode a bike is so long ago

 

u might want to buy a 4 stroke bike instead.

[bruce71]

Does anyone know if the clutch in 2T motorcycles is dry or wet clutch? If wet clutch, is it lubricated by same oil as engine oil?

 

i think most bikes in singapore are "wet clutch" ( anyone can correct me if i'm wrong ). if i am not wrong only ducati or some special bikes are of dry clutch.

 

for most 2T bikes ( i am talking about 125Z / RX-Z / KRR / SP / TZM etc., not sure about aprilia / cagiva )...the clutch is lubricated by 4T engine oil, just like any other 4-stroke bikes. some people have tried using other stuff ( transmission / gear oil ) but i think if you are not so sure as you are still a "dummy", stick to 4T engine oil first for the time being & experiment later, when you become more interested in such technical things ( i am not the technical type )

 

i have been owning only 2T bikes for almost 2 decades & have only ever used 4T engine oil ( besides every motortiam carry them & will change it for you ) so far with no problems. i am too lazy to try other types of oil. the main thing with 2T bikes is the 2T lubrication oil, which is a different topic.

Edited June 23, 2012 by bruce71

[bruce71]

Sorry mate. I last rode a bike more than a decade ago. I am thinking may be I should get a bike again. But I probably need a 'Motorbikes for dummy' to get to know today's motorbikes and all the accessories and fluids and oil and....

 

btw, you never mentioned what were your previous bikes?

 

the modern day class 2 / 2A bikes have become very "advanced" with EFI, ABS, TC etc. Some of the technology have filtered down to smaller 2B bikes ( eg. EFIs ).

 

excluding the aprilia / cagiva models which i know nothing of, the 2T bikes now are not much different from the 90s as the big 4 manufacturers & others put in no / little effort in developing their technology further since maybe 2001 onwards. so it is actually the same old technology really.

 

only thing is, i think since the start of this year, i don't think there are any new 2T bikes for sale ( excluding scramblers or unless you are very lucky to get old stock ). So you probably can only buy 2nd hand 2T bikes. Not that bad really as i have also never ever bought a brand new bike in my life! i only buy 2nd ( or 3rd or whatever ) hand

[bruce71]

hi. since your last rode a bike is so long ago

 

u might want to buy a 4 stroke bike instead.

 

seriously, i intend no offence to anyone...

 

but maybe he is a guy who is "old" ( youngsters laugh at us 2T bikes fans as old geezers living in the past ) enough to recall the 2T "fun" factor.

 

the 4T vs 2T bikes choice imho is very personal just like the 4 wheels ( safer? ) vs 2 wheels ( Fun!!! ) choice. the "modern" preferred choice are 4-strokes bikes but "old" folks like us just cannot forget how much more "FUN" the 2T bikes were.

 

life is like that sometimes. it is not always about doing the norm. sometimes "old" guys just want to have "fun" / "zest" / "passion" too. Putting back the smile in the face. "mid-life crisis" ??? hahaha...

[benlu]

seriously, i intend no offence to anyone...

 

but maybe he is a guy who is "old" ( youngsters laugh at us 2T bikes fans as old geezers living in the past ) enough to recall the 2T "fun" factor.

 

the 4T vs 2T bikes choice imho is very personal just like the 4 wheels ( safer? ) vs 2 wheels ( Fun!!! ) choice. the "modern" preferred choice are 4-strokes bikes but "old" folks like us just cannot forget how much more "FUN" the 2T bikes were.

 

life is like that sometimes. it is not always about doing the norm. sometimes "old" guys just want to have "fun" / "zest" / "passion" too. Putting back the smile in the face. "mid-life crisis" ??? hahaha...

 

I am sure I could empathize with you on this one.

[benlu]

btw, you never mentioned what were your previous bikes?

 

the modern day class 2 / 2A bikes have become very "advanced" with EFI, ABS, TC etc. Some of the technology have filtered down to smaller 2B bikes ( eg. EFIs ).

 

excluding the aprilia / cagiva models which i know nothing of, the 2T bikes now are not much different from the 90s as the big 4 manufacturers & others put in no / little effort in developing their technology further since maybe 2001 onwards. so it is actually the same old technology really.

 

only thing is, i think since the start of this year, i don't think there are any new 2T bikes for sale ( excluding scramblers or unless you are very lucky to get old stock ). So you probably can only buy 2nd hand 2T bikes. Not that bad really as i have also never ever bought a brand new bike in my life! i only buy 2nd ( or 3rd or whatever ) hand

 

It was a Honda cub or something, bought 2nd hand during my student day. It wasn't something advancedjust what I could afford then.

[bruce71]

It was a Honda cub or something, bought 2nd hand during my student day. It wasn't something advancedjust what I could afford then.

 

back in the 80s, I rode a bike with no engine ( ie. bicycle but i've got expensive SHIMANO gears hahaha... ) during my student days, so you are actually better off than me.

 

i am only 41 years young, probably much younger than you

 

if the only experience you have got is just a cub...& you have not been riding for more than 10 years. i think you ought to get a 2nd hand ( don't know how long your "comeback" will be, no offence ) bike that is similar to the one you had.

 

the modern versions are Honda wave ( 4-stroke 125cc like your cub ) or Yamaha Spark( 4T 135cc ) or Modenas GT ( 128cc 4T ). small simple, cheap transport workhorses.

 

a simple cheap 2T bike will be Yamaha 125Z ( it is also a cub except it is a "faster" 2-stroke that will require you to get used to filling up your 2T pump & maybe even more importantly it is "manual" where you have to change gears so be warned if you have been going the "auto" route for too long )

 

other alternatives will be the Yamaha RX-Z ( 2-stroke 133cc street bike ).

 

i suggest you start from these bikes before considering the faster SP / KR / TZ 150cc 2T sport bikes or even bigger 4-strokes CB-400 / CBR400 / RVF / RSV4...that will probably come later

 

PS: how come i can't change my signature???

Edited June 27, 2012 by bruce71

[benlu]

back in the 80s, I rode a bike with no engine ( ie. bicycle but i've got expensive SHIMANO gears hahaha... ) during my student days, so you are actually better off than me.

 

i am only 41 years young, probably much younger than you

 

if the only experience you have got is just a cub...& you have not been riding for more than 10 years. i think you ought to get a 2nd hand ( don't know how long your "comeback" will be, no offence ) bike that is similar to the one you had.

 

the modern versions are Honda wave ( 4-stroke 125cc like your cub ) or Yamaha Spark( 4T 135cc ) or Modenas GT ( 128cc 4T ). small simple, cheap transport workhorses.

 

a simple cheap 2T bike will be Yamaha 125Z ( it is also a cub except it is a "faster" 2-stroke that will require you to get used to filling up your 2T pump & maybe even more importantly it is "manual" where you have to change gears so be warned if you have been going the "auto" route for too long )

 

other alternatives will be the Yamaha RX-Z ( 2-stroke 133cc street bike ).

 

i suggest you start from these bikes before considering the faster SP / KR / TZ 150cc 2T sport bikes or even bigger 4-strokes CB-400 / CBR400 / RVF / RSV4...that will probably come later

 

PS: how come i can't change my signature???

 

Thank you Bruce for the information. I am reading up on the net as well. Awful lot of information available.

 

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