would like to know more abt riding to China...

[darren0033]

Planning to ride into China..i Would like to find out more abt riding to China..

 

Wat kind of documents needed?

Any fees to pay?

Petrol stations easy to find?

 

Hope someone can help me out with some questions

..Thanks

[svit]

Planning to ride into China..i Would like to find out more abt riding to China..

 

Wat kind of documents needed?

Any fees to pay?

Petrol stations easy to find?

 

Hope someone can help me out with some questions

..Thanks

 

Hi mates.. .

 

take a look at this blog.. done by a singaporean riding solo in china.. you find the infos very useful. This singaporean bought a motorcycle in Guangzhou, ride all the way to XingJiang and then sell off the bike.. buying a motorcycle "illegally" probably is the easier way out..

 

http://zeevincez.blogspot.sg/2010/06/china-02092008-07102008.html

 

another forum where you can find some infos on riding in china...

 

http://www.rideasia.net/motorcycle-forum/forum.php

 

from some of the reading from the web, its a tedious process to get a valid motorcycle license in china..

 

if you want to ride your own bike into china,say from Laos into China, then you have to engage a local guide to do up all the documents etc etc..

 

Which part of china do you have in mind ? im going on a trip to Yading from Chengdu (on vehicle).. thats a very popular scenic riding route in SiChuan. Alot of their local rider ride from Chengdu, to Yading, to Shangri La, to Li Jiang, to Kunming , back to Chengdu..

 

im interested to do a riding trip in china too, someday, after i get my motorbike license.. im still doing a class 2b.. hopefully can get it by end of this year..

 

Cheers

[svit]

one of the major push factor for taking up motorcycling license is actually to ride in china one day : ) good to know that there are someone out there with similar interest.....

[darren0033]

Hi mate,

 

Thanks for the information..I'm planning to ride to Shangri-la with my own bike. I read about getting a guide who can bring me into China. Do I really need a guide in order to get in China? Hope I can get more info from those riders who have experience riding into China.

[svit]

Hi mates..

 

I know which route you will be going.. I had planned to drive up to Shangri La - but failed to materialised..

It will take at least 3 - 4 weeks for the whole trip...

 

Yes.. A guide is compulsory... The last round when i check for 2 vehicles.. i was quoted around USD5,000... the guide will meet you at Laos/China borders of Boten/Mohan... He will do up all the documentations for you.. and he will accompany you along the trip.. you have to pay for his lodging and foods...

 

I been to Shangri La twice... A beautiful place..always wanted to drive up there.. but failed to find enough travellers to come along..

 

One alternative is actually to rent / buy a motorcycle from Kun Ming , ride up to Da Li, Li Jiang and up to Shangri La...

 

Riding own bike is nice..I'm still doing my class2b, hopefully can get my license by end of this year.. May i know what bike are you riding ? Any recommendation for 2b bikes that are suitable for touring ?

 

Cheers

Edited September 12, 2012 by svit

[svit]

The last time when i planned the drive up, the route is as followed :

 

Singapore - Chiang Khong 2500km

Chiang Khong - Luang Namtha 264km

Luang Namtha to Mohan - 58km

Mohan to Shangri La - 1400km

Shangri La to Mohan - 1400km

Mohan to Vientiane - 650km

Vientiane - Bangkok - 650km

Bangkok - SG - 1800km

 

Total will probably be around 9,000km

 

There was a group of BMW rider rode to Shangri La last year.. What they do is they ride up to Haytai, send the bike on rail to ChiangMai, Ride into Laos and then into Shangri La..

 

Wayback, they send their bike from Li Jiang to KunMing.. and then ride back from Kunming into Laos..if i didnt recalled wrongly..

[darren0033]

Hi mates..

 

I know which route you will be going.. I had planned to drive up to Shangri La - but failed to materialised..

It will take at least 3 - 4 weeks for the whole trip...

 

Yes.. A guide is compulsory... The last round when i check for 2 vehicles.. i was quoted around USD5,000... the guide will meet you at Laos/China borders of Boten/Mohan... He will do up all the documentations for you.. and he will accompany you along the trip.. you have to pay for his lodging and foods...

 

I been to Shangri La twice... A beautiful place..always wanted to drive up there.. but failed to find enough travellers to come along..

 

One alternative is actually to rent / buy a motorcycle from Kun Ming , ride up to Da Li, Li Jiang and up to Shangri La...

 

Riding own bike is nice..I'm still doing my class2b, hopefully can get my license by end of this year.. May i know what bike are you riding ? Any recommendation for 2b bikes that are suitable for touring ?

 

Cheers

 

Seriously? USD5000 for a guide to bring u in and around China..

What if I ship my bike to China? Will i still need to get a guide? I'm riding KTM 990 Adventure currently..

I believe posture and comfort is very important if u wanna go for long distance.

[svit]

Seriously? USD5000 for a guide to bring u in and around China..

What if I ship my bike to China? Will i still need to get a guide? I'm riding KTM 990 Adventure currently..

I believe posture and comfort is very important if u wanna go for long distance.

 

Hi mates..

 

Same .. You will still need a local guide to "accompany" you on the whole trip...it's a real put off to adventurers who wanted to drive / ride into china... Few years back, there was this singapore couple who drive their hyundai matrix around the world...they drove intomalaysia and then shipped their car into India, bypassing china...guess the cost was really prohibitive ...

 

http://www.relax.com.sg/relax/features/385936/Driving_into_the_unknown.html

[svit]

I will be in chengdu this coming October...will like to check up some motorcycle shops. To check the feasibility of renting , buying a motorbike there....that might be a easy way to ride in china..

[svit]

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Edited September 13, 2012 by svit

[svit]

Hi all,

 

Here's some costing i recved for the driving part in China, Yunnan.

 

As mentioned on previous posting.. A carnet is not required for driving in China. However, the driving group are required to engaged a local guide that will do up all the necessary documentations and be travelling together with the group throughout the trip.

 

I wrote to a chinese company.. Here's some of the infos i recved with regards to the proposed intineary :

 

Day 1 :

勐憨口岸 - 勐腊县 - 勐仑镇 - 勐养镇 - 普洱市 - 7 hrs

 

Day 2 :

普洱市 - 宁洱县 - 玉溪市 - 昆明市 - 5 hrs

 

Day 3

昆明市 - 大理市 - 4 hrs

 

Day 4

大理市 - 沙坪村 - 松桂镇 - 丽江市 - 3.5 hrs

 

Day 5

丽江市

 

Day 6

丽江市 - 虎跳峡镇 - 香格里拉县 - 3 hrs

 

Day 7

香格里拉县

 

Day 8

香格里拉县

 

Day 9

香格里拉县 - 虎跳峡镇 - 剑川县 - 洱源县 - 大理市 - 7 hrs

 

Day 10

大理市 - 临沧市 - 6 hrs 30 mins

 

Day 11

临沧市 - 宁洱县 - 普洱市 - 7 hrs

 

Day 12

普洱市 - 勐憨 - 6 hrs 10 mins

 

Day 13

勐憨口岸

 

----------------------------------------------------------------

 

Tour price for 4 persons with 2 vehicles: USD4232,- per group

 

 

 

Tour price for 10 persons with 5 vehicles: USD6492,- per group

 

 

 

Included

Full set of vehicle import documents/paper works in China for self drive

Arrival check in at Chinese customs in Mohan and exit customs handling to Laos

Chinese temporary drivers’ license and temporary vehicle plate/tag

Vehicle inspection fees after entry China

Vehicle liability insurance fees and the third-party insurance fees in China

Drivers’ physical checks at the port

Informed English speaking guide as the liaison to be at your service throughout the tour

Wages to the national liaison includes his hotel accommodation and daily meal supply

Chinese travel accidental injury insurance for both travelers

 

Excluded

Meal service in China

China visa fees

Hotel accommodation and overnight camping tents when applicable

Fares of China toll road, bridge and tunnel access charges when applicable

Tips to your escorted guide

Sightseeing tickets and admission fees for tours, excursions and trips

Personal expenses and persons issues such as drinking water, phone call, shopping etc.

International travel insurance, first-aid charge and charges of emergency evacuation; car fuel/ gasoline in China and Car fix and repair fees

Support vehicle with driver and related costs, such as meals, accommodations and road fees, etc.

All the service not mentioned in the inclusions and itinerary

 

 

 

From :

Chengdu Panorama Tour Co., Ltd.

[svit]

Sori for the double posting...using iPad... Not very friendly with some functions when posting .....

The above was the reply I got when I wrote to this company that provide "guide" , documentation works if you have the interest to drive, ride into china... The cost for bike might be different , but guess it should be around these regions also...

[darren0033]

Thanks mate...for all the informations. Guess I'm getting the picture and I will need to get in touch with the tour guide info and total fees. Really glad u shared so much info thanks again mate.

[svit]

anytime mates.. you are planning to ride all the way up there ? if so, do you mind me coming along ? i can come in my SUV...we can share the cost of the guide.. the guide can go in my car and my car can carry extra luggage n spare parts for you and your motorbike... : )

 

i love to go motorbike, but i dont think im experienced enough for that at the moment.. but driving - shouldnt be a problem..

Edited September 14, 2012 by svit

[darren0033]

anytime mates.. you are planning to ride all the way up there ? if so, do you mind me coming along ? i can come in my SUV...we can share the cost of the guide.. the guide can go in my car and my car can carry extra luggage n spare parts for you and your motorbike... : )

 

i love to go motorbike, but i dont think im experienced enough for that at the moment.. but driving - shouldnt be a problem..

 

wow...that would be a great idea! haha..the only problem would be the ex guide cost. i can travel to other countries with that kind of money..

[svit]

Thats very true also, the only way to lower the cost is to get a few more participants..however, that will make the trip more complicated ...

 

Think about it, if you are interested - we can really turn it into a reality..... I'm always very interested to drive up to shangri la...

 

I did a posting on mycarforum some time back..with details of the driving plan.. Plus map, infos on the road from boten up to shangri la..

 

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2666824

 

It's a once a lifetime experience...it's not easy for me to find someone who is interested to drive, ride up to shangri la...I think it's also equally difficult for you to come across another person with similar interest as yours... : )

 

Think about it mates : )

[indiana]

What kinda documents needed for border crossing to Laos, Boten & Cambodia when riding S'pore registered bike? Would a bike log card be enough to cross border? Is it possible to ride into Myanmar & Vietnam? I intend to ride up to Boten after 3NCR. Appreciate if anyone could answer my question. Thanks

[yinghai]

Damm, im planning to ride up to russia by china.. Not possible??..

[samuelftw5]

Hi mates,

 

Any ideas of rules & regulation riding into Hong Kong ? By China or Shipping.

[svit]

What kinda documents needed for border crossing to Laos, Boten & Cambodia when riding S'pore registered bike? Would a bike log card be enough to cross border? Is it possible to ride into Myanmar & Vietnam? I intend to ride up to Boten after 3NCR. Appreciate if anyone could answer my question. Thanks

 

Hi mates..

 

Riding up to Laos & China borders ? when do you intend to do it ? I be interested to come along - i be driving instead of riding.. Class 2b TP test only in Jan 2013..

 

Cheers

[svit]

Damm, im planning to ride up to russia by china.. Not possible??..

 

possible.. only if you pay for a guide and the related cost of riding, driving in China.. : )

[wango]

Technically.. no foreign bike is allowed into China.

(But there's always grey area if you pay the right way)

but with exception perhaps at border of Yunnan.

but you are not allowed to ride beyond that on your own.

even with guides there are restrictions, as motorcycle are ban in certain province.

 

you can rent one and ride though on a tour group.

i did that way when I was living in Shanghai

For those who are interested to ride in Tibet.

 

http://shanghairoar.blogspot.sg/2011/05/cruising-roof-of-world-photos-part-1.html

 

btw..no new registration for motorcycle in Shanghai except for Harley, BMW and CJ750, more details if interested...

 

svit .. i read about the group that rode into Lijiang

will found out more about the trip once I get my Class 2 adventure bike.

[yem_paul]

Technically.. no foreign bike is allowed into China.

(But there's always grey area if you pay the right way)

but with exception perhaps at border of Yunnan.

but you are not allowed to ride beyond that on your own.

even with guides there are restrictions, as motorcycle are ban in certain province.

 

you can rent one and ride though on a tour group.

i did that way when I was living in Shanghai

For those who are interested to ride in Tibet.

 

http://shanghairoar.blogspot.sg/2011/05/cruising-roof-of-world-photos-part-1.html

 

btw..no new registration for motorcycle in Shanghai except for Harley, BMW and CJ750, more details if interested...

 

svit .. i read about the group that rode into Lijiang

will found out more about the trip once I get my Class 2 adventure bike.

 

Possible but with a lot of hassle. We rode to Shangrila on bikes from Singapore in 2010. But we did not pay USD 5000 but a fraction of it. A guide is mandatory but you can practically go to any parts of China with the exception of Tibet where you require extra permits.

[G450X]

Possible but with a lot of hassle. We rode to Shangrila on bikes from Singapore in 2010. But we did not pay USD 5000 but a fraction of it. A guide is mandatory but you can practically go to any parts of China with the exception of Tibet where you require extra permits.

 

You the man Paul......niway doing the north Thailand, Laos Trip come 5th Feb till 25th Feb 2013

[Runner TYPE R]

Hi all,

 

Here's some costing i recved for the driving part in China, Yunnan.

 

As mentioned on previous posting.. A carnet is not required for driving in China. However, the driving group are required to engaged a local guide that will do up all the necessary documentations and be travelling together with the group throughout the trip.

 

I wrote to a chinese company.. Here's some of the infos i recved with regards to the proposed intineary :

 

Day 1 :

勐憨口岸 - 勐腊县 - 勐仑镇 - 勐养镇 - 普洱市 - 7 hrs

 

Day 2 :

普洱市 - 宁洱县 - 玉溪市 - 昆明市 - 5 hrs

 

Day 3

昆明市 - 大理市 - 4 hrs

 

Day 4

大理市 - 沙坪村 - 松桂镇 - 丽江市 - 3.5 hrs

 

Day 5

丽江市

 

Day 6

丽江市 - 虎跳峡镇 - 香格里拉县 - 3 hrs

 

Day 7

香格里拉县

 

Day 8

香格里拉县

 

Day 9

香格里拉县 - 虎跳峡镇 - 剑川县 - 洱源县 - 大理市 - 7 hrs

 

Day 10

大理市 - 临沧市 - 6 hrs 30 mins

 

Day 11

临沧市 - 宁洱县 - 普洱市 - 7 hrs

 

Day 12

普洱市 - 勐憨 - 6 hrs 10 mins

 

Day 13

勐憨口岸

 

----------------------------------------------------------------

 

Tour price for 4 persons with 2 vehicles: USD4232,- per group

 

 

 

Tour price for 10 persons with 5 vehicles: USD6492,- per group

 

 

 

Included

Full set of vehicle import documents/paper works in China for self drive

Arrival check in at Chinese customs in Mohan and exit customs handling to Laos

Chinese temporary drivers’ license and temporary vehicle plate/tag

Vehicle inspection fees after entry China

Vehicle liability insurance fees and the third-party insurance fees in China

Drivers’ physical checks at the port

Informed English speaking guide as the liaison to be at your service throughout the tour

Wages to the national liaison includes his hotel accommodation and daily meal supply

Chinese travel accidental injury insurance for both travelers

 

Excluded

Meal service in China

China visa fees

Hotel accommodation and overnight camping tents when applicable

Fares of China toll road, bridge and tunnel access charges when applicable

Tips to your escorted guide

Sightseeing tickets and admission fees for tours, excursions and trips

Personal expenses and persons issues such as drinking water, phone call, shopping etc.

International travel insurance, first-aid charge and charges of emergency evacuation; car fuel/ gasoline in China and Car fix and repair fees

Support vehicle with driver and related costs, such as meals, accommodations and road fees, etc.

All the service not mentioned in the inclusions and itinerary

 

 

 

From :

Chengdu Panorama Tour Co., Ltd.

 

I recently got a quote for RMB6500 for 2 bikes, i am still verifying whether are the company trustworthy or not. The company was introduced by my China stuff from Yunnan. Once i verified them, i will share with you guys here. My plan is to go during end Aug to mid Sep, which is the most suitable period for riding, no rain, nice scenery, nice weather and lesser traffic.

 

WIll share information again once I get the actual "human" verification of the company. I dont wish to get con just for the cheaper cost.