SG-JB border reopen on 1st Apr

[Pisces44]

Good news...

Got my license after lockdown ended...

Looking forward to riding to JB.

But scared of robbery.

Old birds, got any advice ? I sure they will target SG plate...

Like, any 'black' area cannot go 1

 

[adesmond2]

12 hours ago, Pisces44 said:

Good news...

Got my license after lockdown ended...

Looking forward to riding to JB.

But scared of robbery.

Old birds, got any advice ? I sure they will target SG plate...

Like, any 'black' area cannot go 1

 

honestly.. everywhere.. my advise.. dun go in at least 6 months first.. wait for Economic stabilises first.

last time, you go petrol station pump petrol, people come with needle.. you ride anywhere, encountered at least 10 bikers (all with weapons).. no where to run... Now.. economic so bad.. confirm worst.. 

[pinksheep]

Honestly if JB area I will do 'foot recon' via public transport first, the old trick I learned from my dad was park in protected places with live security guard - if you have a machine that's 'too attractive' it may not be wise to park publicly.

I would likely skip any "Singaporean popular" places altogether and use my bike on the midnight run to KL, park at hotels or local friends' houses.

From my experience taking kapchai up to Johor is fine if it looks stock and a bit worn out so no one is going to touch it, it blends in with local traffic. Best result if you have a few Malay language stickers Back then I was a P-Plate and was astounded everyone gives way when I signal (NEVER happens in SG!).

I am not so concerned with crime, I usually stick around religious places in baju melayu / indian and avoid showing any valuables or jewelry. Most of the time I act like lost kambing anyway and am guided by locals there lol.

The one time in KL I encountered a thief the thief apologized when I said few Arabic words... it pays to know the local culture and blend in. 

[Pisces44]

13 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

honestly.. everywhere.. my advise.. dun go in at least 6 months first.. wait for Economic stabilises first.

last time, you go petrol station pump petrol, people come with needle.. you ride anywhere, encountered at least 10 bikers (all with weapons).. no where to run... Now.. economic so bad.. confirm worst.. 

Sigh..... Will wait till 2023 then....

8 hours ago, pinksheep said:

Honestly if JB area I will do 'foot recon' via public transport first, the old trick I learned from my dad was park in protected places with live security guard - if you have a machine that's 'too attractive' it may not be wise to park publicly.

I would likely skip any "Singaporean popular" places altogether and use my bike on the midnight run to KL, park at hotels or local friends' houses.

From my experience taking kapchai up to Johor is fine if it looks stock and a bit worn out so no one is going to touch it, it blends in with local traffic. Best result if you have a few Malay language stickers Back then I was a P-Plate and was astounded everyone gives way when I signal (NEVER happens in SG!).

I am not so concerned with crime, I usually stick around religious places in baju melayu / indian and avoid showing any valuables or jewelry. Most of the time I act like lost kambing anyway and am guided by locals there lol.

The one time in KL I encountered a thief the thief apologized when I said few Arabic words... it pays to know the local culture and blend in. 

My friend was saying JB is totally not safe. They target SG plate.

But once u over JB, it is better...

Is it true ?

Edited March 25, 2022 by Pisces44

[adesmond2]

10 hours ago, Pisces44 said:

Sigh..... Will wait till 2023 then....

My friend was saying JB is totally not safe. They target SG plate.

But once u over JB, it is better...

Is it true ?

1) 2022 still can but at least 6 months and keep looking for Malaysia (Johor news)

2) My concept yes.. but also similar to pink sheep, if you speak Malay and your bike doesn't "standout" then most likely they might ignore you.. but at least 3 months ba..

3) Yes.. after JB is better but definitely no in big cities Malacca/KL. Penang still ok.. but again.. just be more alert then usual ba.. 

imagine last time we go in 5 bikes.. I took a 5 meter chain to chain us together.. CL2/2A middle.. 2Bs at the side..

[kaiq]

Check whether you need to apply Malaysia VEP or not. If caught fine is RM150.

[Pisces44]

10 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

1) 2022 still can but at least 6 months and keep looking for Malaysia (Johor news)

2) My concept yes.. but also similar to pink sheep, if you speak Malay and your bike doesn't "standout" then most likely they might ignore you.. but at least 3 months ba..

3) Yes.. after JB is better but definitely no in big cities Malacca/KL. Penang still ok.. but again.. just be more alert then usual ba.. 

imagine last time we go in 5 bikes.. I took a 5 meter chain to chain us together.. CL2/2A middle.. 2Bs at the side..

Da Tao melayu....Aku aerox...should blend in....

4 hours ago, kaiq said:

Check whether you need to apply Malaysia VEP or not. If caught fine is RM150.

Bike need touch n go card ?

Fine is better than kena rob....

[adesmond2]

On 3/26/2022 at 5:02 PM, Pisces44 said:

Da Tao melayu....Aku aerox...should blend in....

Bike need touch n go card ?

Fine is better than kena rob....

haha.. can la.. but if nice nice.. also can see differences..

bike need touch and go at tuas... but with low volume of vehicles and so long never open border.. got possibilities woodland also need already..

[Phantom_200]

I haven't been across the Causeway since 2014, decided to give it a go again now (but it looks like the rules have changed)?

 

On a small capacity bike, do we still need a VEP? I'm not sure where we'd put the RFID?

 

Does the 3/4 Tank rule apply to motorcycles? I never remember it existing but then my Phantom didn't have a gauge.. 

[adesmond2]

20 minutes ago, Phantom_200 said:

I haven't been across the Causeway since 2014, decided to give it a go again now (but it looks like the rules have changed)?

 

On a small capacity bike, do we still need a VEP? I'm not sure where we'd put the RFID?

 

Does the 3/4 Tank rule apply to motorcycles? I never remember it existing but then my Phantom didn't have a gauge.. 

https://vep.jpj.gov.my/#/

Road charge (RC) is a fee imposed on all foreign registered private vehicles (excluding motorcycles) when entering Malaysia. The fee of RM20.00 will be charged each time these vehicles enter the country.

Technically.. nope.. motorcycle no charges for VEP..

 

3/4 nope.. some bike doesn't have fuel gage.. some fuel gage spoilt.. and motorcycle fuel gage is different for each bikes.. so custom wun check and hard to check.. haha.. 

 

[pinksheep]

Motorbike they never seem to check fuel level, but our old "classic" 2B bikes from the previous generation don't have accurate gauges. Yamaha 125Z fuel gauge was like trying to look at rocket fuel, either its F all the way or going to E after 25 minutes at near top speed... 

Maybe for bikes they are not concerned since most motorcycles don't have so much tank capacity as to smuggle back a significant quantity of Malaysia petrol. If you're owing the rare 2B bike with 20 liter fuel tank then can enjoy bringing home the VPower

But to be on the safe side it's best to use common sense and not show near empty tank in case some authority randomly check, or go in with so low fuel that end up ran out and became laughing stock. Even 100km (3 liters) of fuel will show as over 3/4 in digital gauge for aerox or nmax. I think due to including the reserve capacity. 

For VEP I have signed up on the site and will share how it goes. Apparently you can enter with a print out of the approval. 

Do we need touch n go for motorcycle? Read that 7 11 have those dual purpose ez link touch n go card. 

 

Edited March 28, 2022 by pinksheep

[Phantom_200]

21 minutes ago, adesmond2 said:

https://vep.jpj.gov.my/#/

Road charge (RC) is a fee imposed on all foreign registered private vehicles (excluding motorcycles) when entering Malaysia. The fee of RM20.00 will be charged each time these vehicles enter the country.

Technically.. nope.. motorcycle no charges for VEP..

 

3/4 nope.. some bike doesn't have fuel gage.. some fuel gage spoilt.. and motorcycle fuel gage is different for each bikes.. so custom wun check and hard to check.. haha.. 

 

Many thanks - fingers crossed it goes ok, I register for the VEP, i was surprised it allowed you to register a motorcycle. I'll report back when i'm back in one piece (although from the comments above it sounds like i'll be gunned down in a blaze of bullets the minute I leave Woodlands ha ha)

[adesmond2]

16 minutes ago, Phantom_200 said:

Many thanks - fingers crossed it goes ok, I register for the VEP, i was surprised it allowed you to register a motorcycle. I'll report back when i'm back in one piece (although from the comments above it sounds like i'll be gunned down in a blaze of bullets the minute I leave Woodlands ha ha)

depending on your bike/outlook and etc.. haha.. do report in once you are back in Singapore.. remember to buy 1st party insurance in case touch wood anything happen..

you rushing in on 1st April?

relative in Malaysia?

21 minutes ago, pinksheep said:

Motorbike they never seem to check fuel level, but our old "classic" 2B bikes from the previous generation don't have accurate gauges. Yamaha 125Z fuel gauge was like trying to look at rocket fuel, either its F all the way or going to E after 25 minutes at near top speed... 

Maybe for bikes they are not concerned since most motorcycles don't have so much tank capacity as to smuggle back a significant quantity of Malaysia petrol. If you're owing the rare 2B bike with 20 liter fuel tank then can enjoy bringing home the VPower

But to be on the safe side it's best to use common sense and not show near empty tank in case some authority randomly check, or go in with so low fuel that end up ran out and became laughing stock. Even 100km (3 liters) of fuel will show as over 3/4 in digital gauge for aerox or nmax. I think due to including the reserve capacity. 

For VEP I have signed up on the site and will share how it goes. Apparently you can enter with a print out of the approval. 

Do we need touch n go for motorcycle? Read that 7 11 have those dual purpose ez link touch n go card. 

 

do get the touch and go card just in case.. Tuas CONFIRM need.. Woodland they say wan to start charging at one point of time but later was "close" one eye.. then we never pay also unless requested.. so better get one just in case..  

fuel tank can be upgraded at some shops.. hahahahaha.. I have a friend who upgraded to 30L of fuel tank so that he can bring back for his car..

[Phantom_200]

5 minutes ago, adesmond2 said:

depending on your bike/outlook and etc.. haha.. do report in once you are back in Singapore.. remember to buy 1st party insurance in case touch wood anything happen..

you rushing in on 1st April?

relative in Malaysia?

I'll go a week or so after April 1st, I definitely don't fancy going until some of the teething issues are resolved...

[adesmond2]

6 minutes ago, Phantom_200 said:

I'll go a week or so after April 1st, I definitely don't fancy going until some of the teething issues are resolved...

no worries.. do keep us updated on the process.. then we can spread the news around to other bikers..

 

[pinksheep]

Can pakat to create one blog post for "How to visit Malaysia with Singapore Bike" 

 

It will be useful else on telegram and other platforms the advice will be in bits and pieces. Having one link to share to all would be great! 

[Phantom_200]

Makes sense - i'll put something together

[adesmond2]

4 minutes ago, pinksheep said:

Can pakat to create one blog post for "How to visit Malaysia with Singapore Bike" 

 

It will be useful else on telegram and other platforms the advice will be in bits and pieces. Having one link to share to all would be great! 

agreed..

 

Just now, Phantom_200 said:

Makes sense - i'll put something together

Thanks in advance.. or maybe one topic on SBF forum.. then we can share this forum post out.. haha

[Phantom_200]

2 hours ago, pinksheep said:

Motorbike they never seem to check fuel level, but our old "classic" 2B bikes from the previous generation don't have accurate gauges. Yamaha 125Z fuel gauge was like trying to look at rocket fuel, either its F all the way or going to E after 25 minutes at near top speed... 

Maybe for bikes they are not concerned since most motorcycles don't have so much tank capacity as to smuggle back a significant quantity of Malaysia petrol. If you're owing the rare 2B bike with 20 liter fuel tank then can enjoy bringing home the VPower

But to be on the safe side it's best to use common sense and not show near empty tank in case some authority randomly check, or go in with so low fuel that end up ran out and became laughing stock. Even 100km (3 liters) of fuel will show as over 3/4 in digital gauge for aerox or nmax. I think due to including the reserve capacity. 

For VEP I have signed up on the site and will share how it goes. Apparently you can enter with a print out of the approval. 

Do we need touch n go for motorcycle? Read that 7 11 have those dual purpose ez link touch n go card. 

 

Sorry I missed this reply, I also have signed up / have the VEP Registration Confirmation Slip, apparently the VEP RFID comes with an eWallet....i'll leave it until the end of the week and contact JPJ.

 

Interesting comment on the JBJ website (here - https://vep.jpj.gov.my/#/about) The distribution of VEP-RFID tags will first be rolled out to privately owned/registered motor vehicles excluding motorcycle. However, the owner of motorcycles, commercial/goods vehicles and public service vehicles must also register for VEP. The installation of VEP-RFID tags involving these vehicle categories will take place at a later date which will be informed through an e-mail notification

[pinksheep]

7 hours ago, Phantom_200 said:

 I'll report back when i'm back in one piece (although from the comments above it sounds like i'll be gunned down in a blaze of bullets the minute I leave Woodlands ha ha)

LOL you inspired me to paste this. 

I grew up listening to "Wawasan 2020" after all. No ill intention intended, I am Malaysian lol. 

Jokes aside I don't believe JB and Malaysia in general is a totally unsafe place (unlike cyberpunk 2077), I have went shopping or taking buses and flights to KL many a weekend for years and nothing happened. I tend to stay away from heavily crowded or touristy places and focus on getting to know the locals. 

Malaysians are pretty laid back and helpful, just don't act like those people who often get on the front page of Mothership.SG lol. Don't walk too fast or look sternly at things, you will find people start calling out "Singapore! Singapore!" if you're too stuffy lol. 

If nervous to leave your bike unattended I would suggest to find hotel or newer shopping mall parking, safer than leaving at roadside. If in doubt talk to people, such as security guards and carpark attendants, little diplomacy goes a long way. 

For other readers to note, there are far far more "unsafe" places in the world lol. Try the back streets of Delhi for instance (even that was fine by me, I blended in as the "English Madame" in Punjabi clothes... 

 

 

 

Edited March 28, 2022 by pinksheep

[Pisces44]

I am confused...so for motorbike....is need or no need VEP ?

Touch n go can buy from 7-11

Insurance need to buy... Like go tour like that travel insurance ?

[adesmond2]

7 hours ago, Pisces44 said:

I am confused...so for motorbike....is need or no need VEP ?

Touch n go can buy from 7-11

Insurance need to buy... Like go tour like that travel insurance ?

Suggestion for you..

VEP - you can register first (just in case)

Touch and go can buy from 7-11 but you cannot use cuz I've just seen from one of the WhatsApp group chat.. need to top up in Malaysia.. that's why first 2 weeks when border open.. they are not charging you..

Insurance  - Yes.. you might wan to consider accidental insurance (similar to travel insurance) just tell them you wan to buy for motorcycle rides.. Pay once a year is cheaper if you intend to go in Malaysia more then 3 times.. each time is about $30.. yearly is about $100.. so yearly premiums is more worth it. It includes your other overseas trip if you intend to fly as well..   *I ask alot on insurance cuz I used to tour to Thailand..

10 hours ago, pinksheep said:

LOL you inspired me to paste this. 

I grew up listening to "Wawasan 2020" after all. No ill intention intended, I am Malaysian lol. 

Jokes aside I don't believe JB and Malaysia in general is a totally unsafe place (unlike cyberpunk 2077), I have went shopping or taking buses and flights to KL many a weekend for years and nothing happened. I tend to stay away from heavily crowded or touristy places and focus on getting to know the locals. 

Malaysians are pretty laid back and helpful, just don't act like those people who often get on the front page of Mothership.SG lol. Don't walk too fast or look sternly at things, you will find people start calling out "Singapore! Singapore!" if you're too stuffy lol. 

If nervous to leave your bike unattended I would suggest to find hotel or newer shopping mall parking, safer than leaving at roadside. If in doubt talk to people, such as security guards and carpark attendants, little diplomacy goes a long way. 

For other readers to note, there are far far more "unsafe" places in the world lol. Try the back streets of Delhi for instance (even that was fine by me, I blended in as the "English Madame" in Punjabi clothes... 

 

 

 

I agreed as long you know how to "hide".. haha..

but again.. since you also Malaysian.. so you know how to blend in ba..

I remember I was "followed" by at least 50 over 2B bikes when I had a accident back then.. I ride back solo from Penang due to the accident.. 

here's the story

I was pumping petrol and walk into the petrol station.. got a "power snack" and a drink.. upon coming out.. the petrol station suddenly was filled up with bikes.. I immediately put all the stuff in my box and faster ride off.. after 20minutes of the ride.. I got this feeling they are chasing up..

Ride into one of the "bridge rain hideout" for my "lunch snack time"

Less then 5 minutes.. I heard loud pipes coming... I was hiding "out of view" from front but since the bridge is only so long, if the bikers use mirror, they can see me and suddenly last few bikes horned/shouted to the front bike they saw me.. that very moment, I was thinking.. die liaoz..

I think they last bikes "leader" think for 10seconds before decided not to come and disturb me and they continue to ride upwards towards Singapore direction..  (they did slow down but due to the huge group, they can't stop the front/middle group)

then I just decide to wait for another 30minutes before heading off.. and I didn't see them after..

 

Of cuz la.. have good experiences as well.

- Different group of bikers horn to wave at us and etc.. 

- Drivers in Malaysia was on lane 1 (the fastest lane) but we are "speeding"  and they give way without anyone high beam or horn.. (they give way really fast)

In Thailand, got one very young school girl.. waved at us shyly. then the whole group of us waved back and she smile and look away shyly.. haha.. 

alot of different experiences in diff places..

[3ddy]

i have not ride to MY ever since the introduction of Touch N Go.

Reason being it has limited use. Refund when card expire would be a big headache.

Their eWallet has limited usage for foreigners(Base on reviews from Apple Appstore)

 

Can we pay petrol using their card?

Is our SG Grabpay supported ?

Can we pay Toll using cash yet?

[adesmond2]

1 minute ago, 3ddy said:

i have not ride to MY ever since the introduction of Touch N Go.

Reason being it has limited use. Refund when card expire would be a big headache.

Their eWallet has limited usage for foreigners(Base on reviews from Apple Appstore)

 

Can we pay petrol using their card?

Is our SG Grabpay supported ?

Can we pay Toll using cash yet?

1) Touch and GO card - top up just nice amount that you need (minimum amount that you can afford to "lose")

2) Based on my understanding, touch and go card cannot pay petrol.. only for borders @pinksheep - you know?

3) grabpay confirm plus chop no la.. 

4) No toll with cash based on my previous experience.. if no card, Tuas, ask you to go and buy.. After working hours, U-turn back home.. cuz it's unmanned.. you need someone with the card to pay on your behalf.. 

[pinksheep]

Best to check the official touch n go website, because there are new features and partnerships with merchants beyond just paying for toll. A lot of my JB trips were as passenger, 3 years ago so I didn't really handle much payments besides food (overseas debit card all the way) . 

https://www.touchngo.com.my/consumer/toll/card/

Some news I saw overnight, they will waive the RM20 road charge. 

https://mothership.sg/2022/03/no-roach-charge-rm20/

 

Grab pay not directly but you might be surprised if you are creative picking payment options, Malaysia also have grab services and if you have the grab debit card it should be able to used internationally like mastercard.

But the grab wallet is only supposed to work in your account local country. Hence use the grab card as workaround if it allows overseas transaction. You can still hire Malaysia Grab car using credit or debit card directly. Way safer than going by normal taxi because they tend to overcharge tourists a lot. 

 

[quote from https://help.grab.com/passenger/en-sg/360037131992 ] Can I use my physical card overseas

Yes, you can pay for purchases overseas using your physical GrabPay Card, as long as your store accepts Mastercard.

Your transaction amount will be converted from local currency to SGD based on prevailing Mastercard Currency Conversion rates. A 2% foreign currency conversion fee will be levied, as detailed in our fee schedule. The final amount will be deducted from your GrabPay Wallet. Please refer to the Mastercard website for prevailing currency conversion rates.

Before you travel, please ensure you have saved a valid credit/debit card on your Grab app so that you can continue topping up your GrabPay Wallet when overseas.

Edited March 29, 2022 by pinksheep
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