2B at BBDC or CDC?

[snooptrader]

20 hours ago, Nakuru said:

Yes.. knee n elbow is 1st impact.. from personal experience as well  

 

Haha so when is ur test? I was extra pressurized cos @sameoldshitz and some other fren's gf passed the TP in 1 try and i wanna join the 1 pass gang too.. hahaha i cried the moment i knew i pass sia.. sibei dramatic i tell u..  

Anyway, HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! I finally felt ambitious and took my bike out 3am in the morning on 1 jan and rode around NE area. No cars definitely help with building some courage back.. hahaha

Here's me and my excessive gears except gloves cos no idea where they went and @sameoldshitz's duke hehehe..

Happy New Year 2023! Great to see you back on the bike and geared up!

Wearing gear is important and can't stress that enough!
There is no shame having any spills, every rider / driver has and we learn from it especially those that we can recover from!

Test is during the CNY period, hence, it's going to be a "party-null" month for me. Though, the journey towards 2B is a lot of effort and I don't blame you for shedding tears at passing. Kudos for first try!

1st try is not an easy feat and will just try the best, that's all I can do.

Can you imagine for those with no license at all? I really respect them for the stress on their shoulders!

Nice to see @sameoldshitz Duke in the classic color along with the aftermarket wind shield and mirrors.

It's good that you road out in the morning where traffic is lighter and hopefully, I can do that in late Jan or early Feb, it really depends on the outcome.. 

 

 

20 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

ok la.. got padding can liaoz.. 

icic.. indeed.. I wake up at 3-4am for my 2A exam.. reach the centre by 5.30am.. already eaten and went morning toilet already.. hahahhaha

Yes, need some padding, pants will definitely come... need to get CE2 for the knees at least.. or will use my guards that I have - might get "suan" on the road... but it's ok. They see my old man, they might be more forgiving.

Yes, have to be early on the test date. On bike selection, @Nakuru, I heard from a candidate that selecting a bike might be a futile task as there are not enough bikes to cater for all the candidates...

[adesmond2]

1 hour ago, snooptrader said:

Happy New Year 2023! Great to see you back on the bike and geared up!

Wearing gear is important and can't stress that enough!
There is no shame having any spills, every rider / driver has and we learn from it especially those that we can recover from!

Test is during the CNY period, hence, it's going to be a "party-null" month for me. Though, the journey towards 2B is a lot of effort and I don't blame you for shedding tears at passing. Kudos for first try!

1st try is not an easy feat and will just try the best, that's all I can do.

Can you imagine for those with no license at all? I really respect them for the stress on their shoulders!

Nice to see @sameoldshitz Duke in the classic color along with the aftermarket wind shield and mirrors.

It's good that you road out in the morning where traffic is lighter and hopefully, I can do that in late Jan or early Feb, it really depends on the outcome.. 

 

 

Yes, need some padding, pants will definitely come... need to get CE2 for the knees at least.. or will use my guards that I have - might get "suan" on the road... but it's ok. They see my old man, they might be more forgiving.

Yes, have to be early on the test date. On bike selection, @Nakuru, I heard from a candidate that selecting a bike might be a futile task as there are not enough bikes to cater for all the candidates...

 for @Nakuru to be back on road again.. She suddenly xin xue lai chao.. (impromptu and must go now) hahahaha.. 

actually got jeans can liao.. shopee got sell those jeans with padding.. but sadly.. dun have my sizing.. LOL..

even my jacket need to order from Motoworld.. they only have 1 jacket of my sizing across their entire stall..

So pants.. nvm for me liao.. haha

bike selection for 2B, can choose among that "few" if you go early.. but TP cannot choose bike (I believe?)..

so I would suggest to try out diff bike, get used to diff bikes.. that's what I do since back then, we are being told not to be "choosy".. any bike also can use.. just slightly different in performance.. cannot adjust clutch as we need to learn diff bike have diff "needs".. same as work and in real life situation.. that's what the instructor back then tell me..

to top it off.. back in the days, I got help to test bike also.. so need to cater to diff clutch system.. haha.. some release bit bike jump already..

[snooptrader]

5 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

 for @Nakuru to be back on road again.. She suddenly xin xue lai chao.. (impromptu and must go now) hahahaha.. 

actually got jeans can liao.. shopee got sell those jeans with padding.. but sadly.. dun have my sizing.. LOL..

even my jacket need to order from Motoworld.. they only have 1 jacket of my sizing across their entire stall..

So pants.. nvm for me liao.. haha

bike selection for 2B, can choose among that "few" if you go early.. but TP cannot choose bike (I believe?)..

so I would suggest to try out diff bike, get used to diff bikes.. that's what I do since back then, we are being told not to be "choosy".. any bike also can use.. just slightly different in performance.. cannot adjust clutch as we need to learn diff bike have diff "needs".. same as work and in real life situation.. that's what the instructor back then tell me..

to top it off.. back in the days, I got help to test bike also.. so need to cater to diff clutch system.. haha.. some release bit bike jump already..

@adesmond2, sound advice and I really think that it's really what counts as a skilled rider...
How big sized are you man?!

[adesmond2]

40 minutes ago, snooptrader said:

@adesmond2, sound advice and I really think that it's really what counts as a skilled rider...
How big sized are you man?!

I dun look really big.. maybe because my height 17x.

but size of my Komine jacket is 3XL.

jeans size 45-48 (tight to loose fitting) 

[Nakuru]

8 hours ago, snooptrader said:

Happy New Year 2023! Great to see you back on the bike and geared up!

Wearing gear is important and can't stress that enough!
There is no shame having any spills, every rider / driver has and we learn from it especially those that we can recover from!

Test is during the CNY period, hence, it's going to be a "party-null" month for me. Though, the journey towards 2B is a lot of effort and I don't blame you for shedding tears at passing. Kudos for first try!

1st try is not an easy feat and will just try the best, that's all I can do.

Can you imagine for those with no license at all? I really respect them for the stress on their shoulders!

Nice to see @sameoldshitz Duke in the classic color along with the aftermarket wind shield and mirrors.

It's good that you road out in the morning where traffic is lighter and hopefully, I can do that in late Jan or early Feb, it really depends on the outcome.. 

 

 

Yes, need some padding, pants will definitely come... need to get CE2 for the knees at least.. or will use my guards that I have - might get "suan" on the road... but it's ok. They see my old man, they might be more forgiving.

Yes, have to be early on the test date. On bike selection, @Nakuru, I heard from a candidate that selecting a bike might be a futile task as there are not enough bikes to cater for all the candidates...

Yes! Feels good to be back on the bike thou the post trauma still hits me hard. Was pillion on @sameoldshitz's duke yest to go into JB and upon reaching my accident site, i just tense up and started crying lolol. Wah CNY period.. very stress sia.. i wish u all the best! Will wait for u to get ur bike n we can go out for a short meet up / ride. 

For bike selection during test, at SSDC they have like 25 bikes on standby but only 15 will be in use during the test n u cant choose the bike. The earlier u register, the faster u can go down for practice n by the time everyone parks back in the waiting area, then everything will go by ur tag number. Like number 1 will take the 1st bike etc. They will test on the circuit 1st then announce result. If pass, stay in room n wait for road test. If fail, u can go home already. After the circuit test, the bike will be swopped again depending who parked the bike 1st. For mi i get to use the same bike throughout n no one to compete with mi cos i was on the MSX

But i heard the format is the same for other driving centers. CDC is 10 riders each time only if i remember correctly. 

6 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

 for @Nakuru to be back on road again.. She suddenly xin xue lai chao.. (impromptu and must go now) hahahaha.. 

Ya.. need to be spontenous to keep things going.. 

[adesmond2]

3 minutes ago, Nakuru said:

Yes! Feels good to be back on the bike thou the post trauma still hits me hard. Was pillion on @sameoldshitz's duke yest to go into JB and upon reaching my accident site, i just tense up and started crying lolol. Wah CNY period.. very stress sia.. i wish u all the best! Will wait for u to get ur bike n we can go out for a short meet up / ride. 

But i heard the format is the same for other driving centers. CDC is 10 riders each time only if i remember correctly. 

Ya.. need to be spontenous to keep things going.. 

Definitely will la.. Honestly.. one drop.. then now still pain.. confirm will have emotion running.. 

but again.. how's the trip to JB? Fun?

CDC is 10 2B riders to 1 instructor.. so.. there's a lot of instructors.. haha.. CL2A and CL2 to 2 instructor.. because not a lot of bikes available.

LOL..  - next time when I available.. I'll jio you again.. haha.. no weekends..

 

 

[snooptrader]

1 hour ago, Nakuru said:

Yes! Feels good to be back on the bike thou the post trauma still hits me hard. Was pillion on @sameoldshitz's duke yest to go into JB and upon reaching my accident site, i just tense up and started crying lolol. Wah CNY period.. very stress sia.. i wish u all the best! Will wait for u to get ur bike n we can go out for a short meet up / ride. 

For bike selection during test, at SSDC they have like 25 bikes on standby but only 15 will be in use during the test n u cant choose the bike. The earlier u register, the faster u can go down for practice n by the time everyone parks back in the waiting area, then everything will go by ur tag number. Like number 1 will take the 1st bike etc. They will test on the circuit 1st then announce result. If pass, stay in room n wait for road test. If fail, u can go home already. After the circuit test, the bike will be swopped again depending who parked the bike 1st. For mi i get to use the same bike throughout n no one to compete with mi cos i was on the MSX

But i heard the format is the same for other driving centers. CDC is 10 riders each time only if i remember correctly.

Don't blame you at all the have some trauma when passing the site, totally natural.
Yes, during CNY period, so will be low key from now till then, and just focus on the goal, though will be pretty busy with work and such.

However, will focus on keeping low key until the goal is reached. Thanks for your kind wishes and I'll just take it as it comes.
From all the sharing you all gave, I'll start looking for the problematic bikes and then try to practice on them, to see if I can handle them.

Yes, the wait is kinda excruciating in a way.... but at least there is a date..

[Nakuru]

2 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

Definitely will la.. Honestly.. one drop.. then now still pain.. confirm will have emotion running.. 

but again.. how's the trip to JB? Fun?

CDC is 10 2B riders to 1 instructor.. so.. there's a lot of instructors.. haha.. CL2A and CL2 to 2 instructor.. because not a lot of bikes available.

LOL..  - next time when I available.. I'll jio you again.. haha.. no weekends..

 

 

Ok la.. went to mid valley south key only cos with other friends.. not bad leh.. new mall.. toilet clean clean i like.. 

Weekday need to be very late but sometimes will tired oso lol 

1 hour ago, snooptrader said:

Don't blame you at all the have some trauma when passing the site, totally natural.
Yes, during CNY period, so will be low key from now till then, and just focus on the goal, though will be pretty busy with work and such.

However, will focus on keeping low key until the goal is reached. Thanks for your kind wishes and I'll just take it as it comes.
From all the sharing you all gave, I'll start looking for the problematic bikes and then try to practice on them, to see if I can handle them.

Yes, the wait is kinda excruciating in a way.... but at least there is a date..

Just keep practicing! U done so well for lesson 5 n 8 u surely can do it for TP de. Cfm no issue for u 1.. u can start looking out for bikes already.. haha

[shiba2b]

4 hours ago, Nakuru said:

Ok la.. went to mid valley south key only cos with other friends.. not bad leh.. new mall.. toilet clean clean i like.. 

 

I like midvalley southkey too, but i'm not sure where the bike parking is, thus skipped it when i ride bike 

the last time i drove car there, i parked at my usual basement area and an orange cat came along and pooped on my bonnet ... i think it was looking for a warm toilet LOL

[shiba2b]

16 hours ago, snooptrader said:

Yes, need some padding, pants will definitely come... need to get CE2 for the knees at least.. or will use my guards that I have - might get "suan" on the road... but it's ok. They see my old man, they might be more forgiving.

Yes, have to be early on the test date. On bike selection, @Nakuru, I heard from a candidate that selecting a bike might be a futile task as there are not enough bikes to cater for all the candidates...

jeans/pants - u can get from local shops too. they're dual purpose as the pads can be removed for normal use (or when walking around after riding). Can also get much cheaper ones from shopee. So far i have 3 pairs - one from local shop, one from SG Lazada, one from Msia Lazada.. in decreasing price. Can really tell the online ones are different in quality and finishing but i think the protection level is adequate for me at my current riding speed. 

TP test bike selection in BBDC - during my time, there were abt 40 "approved" bikes for 50 candidates, so 10 bikes were shared (first and last details). But sometimes even the approved bike has problem. The guy in front of me during the warm up kept stalling his bike.. like more than 10times before the s-course.

[adesmond2]

15 hours ago, snooptrader said:

Don't blame you at all the have some trauma when passing the site, totally natural.
Yes, during CNY period, so will be low key from now till then, and just focus on the goal, though will be pretty busy with work and such.

However, will focus on keeping low key until the goal is reached. Thanks for your kind wishes and I'll just take it as it comes.
From all the sharing you all gave, I'll start looking for the problematic bikes and then try to practice on them, to see if I can handle them.

Yes, the wait is kinda excruciating in a way.... but at least there is a date..

So you will only continue your lesson after CNY? Sorry lost you bit there.. haha.. 

Indeed.. if you can handle the school problematic bike.. there's no 2nd hand bike out there that you can't handle.. hahahhahahaa..

 

 

13 hours ago, Nakuru said:

Ok la.. went to mid valley south key only cos with other friends.. not bad leh.. new mall.. toilet clean clean i like.. 

Weekday need to be very late but sometimes will tired oso lol 

Just keep practicing! U done so well for lesson 5 n 8 u surely can do it for TP de. Cfm no issue for u 1.. u can start looking out for bikes already.. haha

LOL.. Most mall toilet are clean to a extend bah.. dun say those crowded like the one just over custom.. LOL.. 

very late is how late? hahahaha.. I only left with tml free via.. tml will be going CDC for orientation.. hahaha

[snooptrader]

13 hours ago, Nakuru said:

Just keep practicing! U done so well for lesson 5 n 8 u surely can do it for TP de. Cfm no issue for u 1.. u can start looking out for bikes already.. haha

Thanks very much for your kind words! Don't want to assume and just try the best... was looking at some machines but at the rate they are depreciating (more than new bikes!), can either wait for COE to drop and buy pre-owned if dep is reasonable, or just buy new (when COE drops)

Will try the best.

8 hours ago, shiba2b said:

jeans/pants - u can get from local shops too. they're dual purpose as the pads can be removed for normal use (or when walking around after riding). Can also get much cheaper ones from shopee. So far i have 3 pairs - one from local shop, one from SG Lazada, one from Msia Lazada.. in decreasing price. Can really tell the online ones are different in quality and finishing but i think the protection level is adequate for me at my current riding speed. 

TP test bike selection in BBDC - during my time, there were abt 40 "approved" bikes for 50 candidates, so 10 bikes were shared (first and last details). But sometimes even the approved bike has problem. The guy in front of me during the warm up kept stalling his bike.. like more than 10times before the s-course.

Will check out the pants after getting the privilege to ride..

Sounds concerning on the bikes as if the bike keeps stalling, means it's not a good thing. Could be choked....

 

14 minutes ago, adesmond2 said:

So you will only continue your lesson after CNY? Sorry lost you bit there.. haha.. 

Indeed.. if you can handle the school problematic bike.. there's no 2nd hand bike out there that you can't handle.. hahahhahahaa..

Hopefully not! (Reference lesson) The legal assessment during CNY period.. so if done, no more.. if not... somemore

Hahah, thanks for being positive and will try to manage using any of the school bikes. I know the instructors can... that is why impressive...

[Nakuru]

9 hours ago, shiba2b said:

I like midvalley southkey too, but i'm not sure where the bike parking is, thus skipped it when i ride bike 

the last time i drove car there, i parked at my usual basement area and an orange cat came along and pooped on my bonnet ... i think it was looking for a warm toilet LOL

it was at a corner.. we didnt rode to the mall cos we went to a msian fren's house to change to a lorry instead.. hahaha but there is a very small bike parking sign after the entrance to basement carpark then i heard from my fren that u need to go 1 big round or something like tt.. omg pooped on ur bonnet.. sorry i laughed 

1 hour ago, adesmond2 said:

So you will only continue your lesson after CNY? Sorry lost you bit there.. haha.. 

he taking TP la

1 hour ago, adesmond2 said:

LOL.. Most mall toilet are clean to a extend bah.. dun say those crowded like the one just over custom.. LOL.. 

very late is how late? hahahaha.. I only left with tml free via.. tml will be going CDC for orientation.. hahaha

nooooooooooo most mall toilets are disgusting.. n i cant squat so makes it even more difficult for mi when i go toilet.. 

now cannot leh.. @sameoldshitz's bike is down. spilling oil so definitely need to go to bike hospital this weekend.. so he's currently riding my bike to work 

yest he went for his 1st class 2a lesson 1 and he passed.. was helping him to book n i tot he didnt pass lesson 1 since it was pretty  common to repeat but i refresh and was prompted "- You must attend the next Practical Lesson 2 - You have already passed Practical Lesson 1" 

1 hour ago, snooptrader said:

Hahah, thanks for being positive and will try to manage using any of the school bikes. I know the instructors can... that is why impressive...

it is mostly about clutch control.. cos the biting point is different for every bike.. 

[adesmond2]

2 hours ago, snooptrader said:

Thanks very much for your kind words! Don't want to assume and just try the best... was looking at some machines but at the rate they are depreciating (more than new bikes!), can either wait for COE to drop and buy pre-owned if dep is reasonable, or just buy new (when COE drops)

Will try the best.

Will check out the pants after getting the privilege to ride..

Sounds concerning on the bikes as if the bike keeps stalling, means it's not a good thing. Could be choked....

 

Hopefully not! (Reference lesson) The legal assessment during CNY period.. so if done, no more.. if not... somemore

Hahah, thanks for being positive and will try to manage using any of the school bikes. I know the instructors can... that is why impressive...

Just buy 2nd hand.. way cheaper.. I'm wondering should I buy a less then 1 year CL2 bike (Cheapest 2.xk) .. LOLOL.. but.. license haven't get it.. hahaha..

new = better technology but wayyyyyyy too ex.. for me CL2 = 40k.. =.= so 40k vs 5k +11k (COE) seems like the latter is more worthy.. repair give or take 5k = 21k.. still worth it compare to new bike.. LOL.. + I still have my 2A.. so throw the CL2 to repair shop let them slowly do while I still ride around on my 2A..

Stalling could be cause by several things.. 1 - clutch control (most likely) the rest is mechanical already.. 

 

 - nice nice.. can one la.. have confident is the way..

Need a good 10min to get use to the bike (even for myself).. but I see the boss of Planet.. sit all range of bike.. 1min can get used to it..

 

16 minutes ago, Nakuru said:

he taking TP la

nooooooooooo most mall toilets are disgusting.. n i cant squat so makes it even more difficult for mi when i go toilet.. 

now cannot leh.. @sameoldshitz's bike is down. spilling oil so definitely need to go to bike hospital this weekend.. so he's currently riding my bike to work 

yest he went for his 1st class 2a lesson 1 and he passed.. was helping him to book n i tot he didnt pass lesson 1 since it was pretty  common to repeat but i refresh and was prompted "- You must attend the next Practical Lesson 2 - You have already passed Practical Lesson 1" 

it is mostly about clutch control.. cos the biting point is different for every bike.. 

ohhh.. okok...

that's why I always have po zi (ball) with me.. to stop any stomachache.. haha..

Ohhh.. okok.. next time then..

congrats @sameoldshitz for pass 2AL1..   

haha.. quite common to fail especially SSDC.. hahahaha..

Yup.. biting point is completely different for every bike.. some put abit will move off.. some need to put a lot .. so they are quite huge of a differences.. 

Even for manual car.. also same.. 2A bikes not too much of the differences or maybe already used to it.. but I remember it's ALOT harder pull the clutch.. but my bike feels normal to me already.. haha.. 

[Nakuru]

2 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

haha.. quite common to fail especially SSDC.. hahahaha..

actually no leh.. i oso pass my lessons quite fast.. when he was at CDC for 2b, he oso pass most lessons in 1st try 

[adesmond2]

33 minutes ago, Nakuru said:

actually no leh.. i oso pass my lessons quite fast.. when he was at CDC for 2b, he oso pass most lessons in 1st try 

ohhh.. I heard SSDC usually 2 times for each lesson.. 2A subjective.. CL2 also subjective...

So he's in CDC now or SSDC for his 2A?

[Nakuru]

2 minutes ago, adesmond2 said:

ohhh.. I heard SSDC usually 2 times for each lesson.. 2A subjective.. CL2 also subjective...

So he's in CDC now or SSDC for his 2A?

he now 2A at SSDC

[snooptrader]

6 hours ago, Nakuru said:

it is mostly about clutch control.. cos the biting point is different for every bike.. 

and even

6 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

Just buy 2nd hand.. way cheaper.. I'm wondering should I buy a less then 1 year CL2 bike (Cheapest 2.xk) .. LOLOL.. but.. license haven't get it.. hahaha..

new = better technology but wayyyyyyy too ex.. for me CL2 = 40k.. =.= so 40k vs 5k +11k (COE) seems like the latter is more worthy.. repair give or take 5k = 21k.. still worth it compare to new bike.. LOL.. + I still have my 2A.. so throw the CL2 to repair shop let them slowly do while I still ride around on my 2A..

Stalling could be cause by several things.. 1 - clutch control (most likely) the rest is mechanical already.. 

 

 - nice nice.. can one la.. have confident is the way..

Need a good 10min to get use to the bike (even for myself).. but I see the boss of Planet.. sit all range of bike.. 1min can get used to it..

I'm using a spreadsheet to check for 2nd hand bikes... right now it makes no sense for 2B, as the second hand bikes depreciation is more than new. Just that for new, it's the outlay..
If COE price falls, whoever buys 2nd hand bikes now.. will suffer big time going forward.

Today, if it was a test, immediate out.... on the S... more on that later.. of all things... my fav portion to add insult to injury.. ..

[apogeeXX]

8 hours ago, adesmond2 said:

Just buy 2nd hand.. way cheaper.. I'm wondering should I buy a less then 1 year CL2 bike (Cheapest 2.xk) .. LOLOL.. but.. license haven't get it.. hahaha..

I curious about this less than 1 year CL2 bike cheapest 2.xk .... What bike har ? Where did u see it ?

[snooptrader]

RC Session 10

Have been on leave and so managed to secure quite a last minute slot for a RC practice in the afternoon.

Dark clouds were over the east and thought that the good ole trusty rain wear would be in use again.

Driving towards the west, dark clouds were also ahead and was quite despondent at the thought of having to don the rain wear..

Reached BBDC at about 10 minutes before the start of the lesson and I noticed something peculiar, there was a different riding vest and a group of people.

"Expressway Familiarization Riding" (EFR) in black letters emblazon over luminous yellow. Felt happy for this group as it meant that they had cleared their 2B in the first half of the day.

Donned the typical RC vest and sat down to wait for the instructor to call out the class; did the check on the IC and the app before making our way to select our bikes.

The clouds were really dark but more importantly, just found a bike that looked usable and then was told to gather at the start line and then go for a warm up round with the instructor.

Did a round and then went to do plank, slalom and e-brake.

The exercises went smoothly and for e-brake, was told to apply more of the front brake and keep away from the red demarcated line, even though students were told to try to stop smoothly.
After rounds of practice (grateful for that), the class were paused to gather.

The instructor shared that 50 students had their test this morning, and only half made it out onto the roads, of which, all of them passed.

However, he made an impassioned pep talk letting the students know that he was disappointed that half could only make it out to the roads, and when instructors are firm with the students, it is for our benefit when trying to impart riding skills.

Some students actually misinterpret instructors and this can lead to some misunderstanding as some students feel some entitlement of some "customer service" as they feel that they are paying for the course.

I could feel the angst of the instructor on this prickly point.

Personally, I feel that BBDC instructors are good and they always try to teach us as best as they can, even though our abilities or lack thereof are a challenge to them

After that, went to practice the right turn, slope which again was fairly uneventful accept once, actually prepared to clutch in while going down.

Next was the S course and crank course... on the first run, curbed it due to lack of throttle control... frustration as this is one of my favorite course... more so, that if this was truly a the test, it's an IF.

After that, did two more rounds and it was fine, but it sure shook confidence to a certain degree.... cannot be too comfortable.

Next, we were told to try the full course of the circuit and then to practice the U-turn, it was pretty ok and the lesson ended for the debrief.

Feedback from the instructor was that I looked too tense on the bike - maybe it was due to three cups of coffee today (folks, this is called "finding excuses")

While not the best practice RC, it was an eye-opener in terms of being on the twinkie toes on practice.. not too many more RCs and RV before the day comes.

While walking out of the carpark, manged to see one RV student which I met the last time. He was there for EFR! Congratulated him and found out that he was doing his class 3 also. Determined chap!

Fun facts, for this RC, I was the most "senior" in the class by having a firm test date while some of them have not gone out onto the roads yet.
Another was there was a lot of TP test today for class 3 (cars) and I really empathize with them as the drivers looked very stressed. When we see them going to turn out from small lanes, we will usually let them go first.

Think all students should when we see our fellow students on the test, bike, car or lorry!

Thanks for reading..

[shiba2b]

1 hour ago, snooptrader said:

RC Session 10

Have been on leave and so managed to secure quite a last minute slot for a RC practice in the afternoon.

Dark clouds were over the east and thought that the good ole trusty rain wear would be in use again.

Driving towards the west, dark clouds were also ahead and was quite despondent at the thought of having to don the rain wear..

Reached BBDC at about 10 minutes before the start of the lesson and I noticed something peculiar, there was a different riding vest and a group of people.

"Expressway Familiarization Riding" (EFR) in black letters emblazon over luminous yellow. Felt happy for this group as it meant that they had cleared their 2B in the first half of the day.

Donned the typical RC vest and sat down to wait for the instructor to call out the class; did the check on the IC and the app before making our way to select our bikes.

The clouds were really dark but more importantly, just found a bike that looked usable and then was told to gather at the start line and then go for a warm up round with the instructor.

Did a round and then went to do plank, slalom and e-brake.

The exercises went smoothly and for e-brake, was told to apply more of the front brake and keep away from the red demarcated line, even though students were told to try to stop smoothly.
After rounds of practice (grateful for that), the class were paused to gather.

The instructor shared that 50 students had their test this morning, and only half made it out onto the roads, of which, all of them passed.

However, he made an impassioned pep talk letting the students know that he was disappointed that half could only make it out to the roads, and when instructors are firm with the students, it is for our benefit when trying to impart riding skills.

Some students actually misinterpret instructors and this can lead to some misunderstanding as some students feel some entitlement of some "customer service" as they feel that they are paying for the course.

I could feel the angst of the instructor on this prickly point.

Personally, I feel that BBDC instructors are good and they always try to teach us as best as they can, even though our abilities or lack thereof are a challenge to them

After that, went to practice the right turn, slope which again was fairly uneventful accept once, actually prepared to clutch in while going down.

Next was the S course and crank course... on the first run, curbed it due to lack of throttle control... frustration as this is one of my favorite course... more so, that if this was truly a the test, it's an IF.

After that, did two more rounds and it was fine, but it sure shook confidence to a certain degree.... cannot be too comfortable.

Next, we were told to try the full course of the circuit and then to practice the U-turn, it was pretty ok and the lesson ended for the debrief.

Feedback from the instructor was that I looked too tense on the bike - maybe it was due to three cups of coffee today (folks, this is called "finding excuses")

While not the best practice RC, it was an eye-opener in terms of being on the twinkie toes on practice.. not too many more RCs and RV before the day comes.

While walking out of the carpark, manged to see one RV student which I met the last time. He was there for EFR! Congratulated him and found out that he was doing his class 3 also. Determined chap!

Fun facts, for this RC, I was the most "senior" in the class by having a firm test date while some of them have not gone out onto the roads yet.
Another was there was a lot of TP test today for class 3 (cars) and I really empathize with them as the drivers looked very stressed. When we see them going to turn out from small lanes, we will usually let them go first.

Think all students should when we see our fellow students on the test, bike, car or lorry!

Thanks for reading..

thanks for keeping us updated on your progress. 

i see every lesson and hiccup as a learning opportunity. The instructor is probably right - being too tense does stiffen our muscles and make us tend to overcorrect/over adjust the bike controls. I find it useful to relax the hands and fingers while queueing up at each station for my turn. Just consciously relaxing and stretching the palm/fingers (while still on handlebar) helps me to loosen up before tackling each station. I recall one of the friendly instructors even said to remember to take a deep breath before commencing crank course LOL.

In my case, i was initially struggling to make the timing for s course as i was consistently a borderline case, then one instructor suggested i lean forward a bit and WOW! it made a difference in how i felt on the bike. The instructors are really a special breed - able to pinpoint our errors and suggest how to correct it.

on being able to adapt to any bike, i think the instructors prioritize identifying and adapting to these:

1) clutch biting point

2) throttle sensitivity at low level

brake sensitivity is also important but to a lesser degree for circuit. so far the BBDC bikes i rode all have about the same front brake sensitivity. Rear brake engagement varies quite a bit more. Which is fine as we use the front brakes a lot more at this stage.

remember to have fun during the RC/RV! soon you won't be able to book them even if you want to 

[shiba2b]

this is so sad. 

https://mothership.sg/2023/01/motorcycle-accident-yio-chu-kang-exit/

 

[snooptrader]

8 hours ago, shiba2b said:

thanks for keeping us updated on your progress. 

i see every lesson and hiccup as a learning opportunity. The instructor is probably right - being too tense does stiffen our muscles and make us tend to overcorrect/over adjust the bike controls. I find it useful to relax the hands and fingers while queueing up at each station for my turn. Just consciously relaxing and stretching the palm/fingers (while still on handlebar) helps me to loosen up before tackling each station. I recall one of the friendly instructors even said to remember to take a deep breath before commencing crank course LOL.

In my case, i was initially struggling to make the timing for s course as i was consistently a borderline case, then one instructor suggested i lean forward a bit and WOW! it made a difference in how i felt on the bike. The instructors are really a special breed - able to pinpoint our errors and suggest how to correct it.

on being able to adapt to any bike, i think the instructors prioritize identifying and adapting to these:

1) clutch biting point

2) throttle sensitivity at low level

brake sensitivity is also important but to a lesser degree for circuit. so far the BBDC bikes i rode all have about the same front brake sensitivity. Rear brake engagement varies quite a bit more. Which is fine as we use the front brakes a lot more at this stage.

remember to have fun during the RC/RV! soon you won't be able to book them even if you want to 

Thanks for being there for the support.

That's a good tip on leaning forward.

The incident on the S yesterday was certainly point 2) low speed throttle sensitivity control.. sure wasn't there at that attempt.

Now at this stage, all RCs have to be fairly perfect with no IF. Little mistakes are fine but must be minimized.. after all, the key is, circuit is the key to the road.

Every night, have been thinking of D-Day.

[Nakuru]

11 hours ago, snooptrader said:

The instructor shared that 50 students had their test this morning, and only half made it out onto the roads, of which, all of them passed.

ya. the passing rate is about the same for other driving schools. during my TP, the passing rate is also about 50%. 

 

11 hours ago, snooptrader said:

Another was there was a lot of TP test today for class 3 (cars) and I really empathize with them as the drivers looked very stressed. When we see them going to turn out from small lanes, we will usually let them go first.

hahaha i usually will shake head when i see them mount kerb or make any mistakes thou.. i very bad 

 

[snooptrader]

3 hours ago, Nakuru said:

ya. the passing rate is about the same for other driving schools. during my TP, the passing rate is also about 50%. 

 

hahaha i usually will shake head when i see them mount kerb or make any mistakes thou.. i very bad 

 

Purely looking at the statistics... very stressed about it as passing rate seems low...

Oh no... I empathized with those on test as it is stressful... so will just try to be more patient with them... even though, yes, we have driven for years.. it's like us how we learn bike... we hope others are patient with us!