[cdc] 2b

[hexanol]

Guys I'm having trouble cancelling my lesson that is on the 3rd of Feb. Not sure what is the problem but in my booking summary it shows the lesson is there but in the cancellation page it's blank. Can't call cdc also because of CNY and Monday is the lesson already. Can someone help me? I don't want to lose $55 for nothing!

(P.S I have zero cancellations left but I'm was going to pay the $5.35 until this thing happened.)

 

You can't cancel because you need 2 working days. These 4 days are public holidays.

 

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[Zevify]

You can't cancel because you need 2 working days. These 4 days are public holidays.

 

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wah.. this is ridiculous man... Gonna let my money burn like that.

[fat-lip]

Just to share from what I've gathered from some of the instructors when I asked them, for Lesson 5 (not sure if these applies to TP as well?) :

 

 

For slope,

 

Positioning will be as per Lesson 2 (Just like if the arrow on the road is single direction - left turn arrow)

 

 

1 (1st bike), 2 (2nd bike)

Left side of slope right side of slope

 

 

 

3 (3rd bike), 4 (4th bike)

Left side of slope right side of slope

 

 

etc2

 

 

Which means, since Lesson 5 follows the number in sequence, the first bike (smallest number) will proceed to the left slope, while the following number will proceed to the right slope.

 

 

 

For blind spots,

 

 

Since blind spots takes up a chunk of 4 points for a mistake, allow me to point out that blind spot check needs to be done for these areas as well -

 

 

* Just the area beside the plank, turning right heading into slope area

 

* Before turning into slope

 

* Right at the end point, turning right back into the Starting area

 

 

I realised that most of the blind spot checking is to the right, do note that blind spot check ONLY if traffic is clear and there is no oncoming traffic.

 

 

Do correct me if I'm wrong.

[pyro77]

Anybody got problems booking practical lessons? Keep getting errors, been trying for quite a while now.

[rijac]

its part of the process. i burned 4 or 5 lessons because last minute couldn't make it.

wah.. this is ridiculous man... Gonna let my money burn like that.

[rijac]

no bro. on the sequence of bikes. during testing you will start in sequence but it is possible a higher number bike will arrive at the station first. the sequence of first bike second bike third bike fourth bike refers to the order that you arrive, not the tag numbers. regarding blind spot - you check everytime you are changing direction. even exiting crank course you must check left if you didn't stop at the exit.

Just to share from what I've gathered from some of the instructors when I asked them, for Lesson 5 (not sure if these applies to TP as well?) :

 

 

For slope,

 

Positioning will be as per Lesson 2 (Just like if the arrow on the road is single direction - left turn arrow)

 

 

1 (1st bike), 2 (2nd bike)

Left side of slope right side of slope

 

 

 

3 (3rd bike), 4 (4th bike)

Left side of slope right side of slope

 

 

etc2

 

 

Which means, since Lesson 5 follows the number in sequence, the first bike (smallest number) will proceed to the left slope, while the following number will proceed to the right slope.

 

 

 

For blind spots,

 

 

Since blind spots takes up a chunk of 4 points for a mistake, allow me to point out that blind spot check needs to be done for these areas as well -

 

 

* Just the area beside the plank, turning right heading into slope area

 

* Before turning into slope

 

* Right at the end point, turning right back into the Starting area

 

 

I realised that most of the blind spot checking is to the right, do note that blind spot check ONLY if traffic is clear and there is no oncoming traffic.

 

 

Do correct me if I'm wrong.

[fat-lip]

Anyway, I already managed to clear my Lesson 5 by reading and applying your post 1946 several times, and what I just shared/posted.

 

I just realised, is it just me or the class 2B lesson this year does not really follow the booklet, as it indicated "Pillion riding" being a part of Lesson 5?

[neowenbin]

We didn't learn anything related to pillion riding.

[fat-lip]

What the.. ? But you just got your class 2B, and you're saying pillion riding is not covered at all?

[ber]

Not covered but I heard when covered that time, student ride student hour not student ride instructor lol

[fat-lip]

And then when we get our class 2B license, we call ourselves so-called, "Qualified Riders". LOL

 

Looks like certain things are meant to be self-taught, then.

[fat-lip]

ok. after a long break because i was out of town and then had to wait a long long time for a Lesson 6 slot, i passed my lesson today.

 

Lesson 6 Summary and Key Pointers:

 

1. First you will be shown how to check the bike before going out on the road. From this point onwards you must always perform these checks before riding. Start engine, check headlights and tailights are working. check signal lights, check brake lights. check horn. make sure got fuel in the tank (quarter tank or more); check tyre condition for front and back. ONCE YOU ARE OUT ON THE ROAD YOU CAN'T CHANGE BIKE. so CHECK PROPERLY!

 

2. Then they bring you into the tent to brief. They will talk about how to negotiate different kinds of corners and junctions. Pay attention because it can be confusing and when you are on the road you won't have time to think "eh, this one is one row or two rows ah?'. You must act fast. See below for instructions.

 

3. Then they will ask you to go to your bikes. Not sure if its the same for all lessons, my lesson had 6 students and two instuctors - one at the back one in front

 

4. Once you start riding they stop teaching - unless you make a dangerous move or big big mistake (they will scold you!) otherwise, they won't guide you. You must do what you think is correct. No looking at them for their approving nods or anything.

 

5. They will bring you to their 'training route'. It is not the TEST route. It is a TRAINING route. Not sure if they always use the same route as i only had one chance to see it. The route is about 6km long. After exiting CDC turn right at Airport road then turn left at hougang avenue 3. Long straight stretch and then left turn at bartley road east then left at paya lebar road. from here they will turn left into the industrial area and go round tai sing avenue, tai sing link and then join back paya lebar road. its a left turn here. straight down turn left at airport road then right to go back to CDC. ONLY ONE ROUND.

 

6. During the ride, they are going to look for your correct safety checks, proper use of braking, signalling, lane changing, slowing down, speeding up, making quick decisions about when to stop and when to cut out speedily. They want to see that you know what to do on the road and not really looking to pinpoint silly little mistakes. They will fail you for dangerous riding and big mistakes but i think for small mistakes they will let it go. 6 of use in my lesson all passed although a few of them formed up wrongly at one junction and another fellow overtook me while turning at traffic light junction.

 

7. The important things to remember.

a) usual safety checks but remember the exceptions - if you are stopped at a kerb which is on the RIGHT and you are the RIGHT hand bike, you must check back to the left (away from the kerb) when moving off.

b) traffic lights - to turn left, as per what you do in circuit when you did your lesson 5 to turn left after figure 8. but for right turn, pay attention to what kind of light it is. If round green light with no right turn arrow, if you are all waiting at red light, when the light turns green, only ONE bike is to move into the turn. the rest stay behind the stop line. IF there is a right turn arrow (and it is not lighted) then 2 bikes can enter the turn but the rest stay behind the stop line (regardless if there is a right turn pocket or not). Once the right arrow goes green, everybody proceed as normal with safety and blind spot checks. If the right turn arrow is red, you all stay behind the stop line. If you are approaching the lights and the right turn arrow starts to blink, and you are behind the stop line, you STOP. If you are over the stop line already, you proceed. no running the blinker or the yellow lights please.

c) lane behaviour. this is a bit tricky. for most of the ride, you observe forming up as what you do in the circuit. i.e. single directional arrow on the road you form up in 2 lines, if two directional arrow (e.g. straight and left turn) you form up in 1 single line. There are exceptions to this rule. firstly if you are turning at a traffic light junction, you for single file inside the yellow box/turn junction but behind the stop line you form up based on arrows on the groun. secondly, when you are going into a filter lane, regardless of arrows on the ground, only single row. here's the tricky part - NOT ALL LEFT TURN LANES ARE FILTER LANES! some are normal left turn lanes. If filter lane you form up one line only, if normal lane you form up based on arrows on the road. How to tell if its a filter or normal left turn lane? If its a filter lane, there will be a give way line on the ground, if its a normal turning lane there will usually be a stop line on the ground. you need to act accordingly. if you trace the route i gave you above before you go for your lesson you can memorize where are the stop lines, where are the filter lanes etc etc. then you won't have to think about too many things during the ride.

d) when you exit cdc it is a single right turn arrow so you form up 2 rows. here is a common mistake - the bikes on the right of these 2 rows before exiting CDC must check back to the left (because there is a kerb on the right).

e) instructor told us the turn our heads back more then just 90 degrees when checking back and blind spot checking.

f) finally when returning to CDC, you will be entering the nursery from the little filter lane opposite the blind junction - remember your circuit, there is a blind junction with a lane directly opposite? as you enter CDC, you must signal RIGHT to change lane to the right of this filter lane heading towards the blind junction. after you are in the right lane you must immediately signal LEFT because that lane is a left turn lane. As soon as you enter the main road from this lane you must immediately signal RIGHT and change lane to the right lane and proceed to turn into the nursery entrance.

g) added in as i forgot this - observe bus lane restrictions if you are doing your lesson 6 at 6.50pm session - the lane is in operation. if you do 8.40 session don't need to change lane to avoid the bus lanes.

 

End of Summary.

 

Digged for Lesson 6. =)

[timewalker84]

And then when we get our class 2B license, we call ourselves so-called, "Qualified Riders". LOL

 

Looks like certain things are meant to be self-taught, then.

 

Welcome to the club bro. After four years of riding, I still don't feel like I'm a qualified rider.

 

 

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[fat-lip]

Looks like pillion riding will be self-taught then.

[neowenbin]

After two and a half months I'm still reluctant to have pillion. They trust me but I don't trust myself. Hahaha.

[hexanol]

Another one of those days where you think you won't go to the next lesson but you did... TP here I come!!

 

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[ber]

yeah! congrats!

[darkredmica]

Seven more months to Class 2A!

 

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[Scandiacus]

Any tips on shifting gear from 1 to 2 as soon as possible? Do I just half clutch move off then clutch in and shift up?

 

Got a bit of problem shifting while turning at junction..and I thought prac 2 will be a breeze

[timewalker84]

Any tips on shifting gear from 1 to 2 as soon as possible? Do I just half clutch move off then clutch in and shift up?

 

Got a bit of problem shifting while turning at junction..and I thought prac 2 will be a breeze

 

U can half clutch move off, then clutch in and upshift without having to fully engage gear 1.

 

Don't worry about learning bro, take ur time! I know it seems like a lot of stuff u need to do with ur hands and legs at he same time, but it'll all become simple and intuitive with time.

 

There is a petite, pretty lady in this forum who used to be unable to even dismount her bike. Now she's just 7 months away from her 2A and her RVF.

 

 

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[nerian]

pillion riding isnt taught in SSDC as well, from what my instructor told me, students are supposed to "hug" the rider, but everyone was awkward, dont want to hug and whatever, in the end it took too long to just finish pillion riding so they removed it completely.

[hexanol]

Any tips on shifting gear from 1 to 2 as soon as possible? Do I just half clutch move off then clutch in and shift up?

 

Got a bit of problem shifting while turning at junction..and I thought prac 2 will be a breeze

 

Accelerate quickly to move to gear 2. Actually once your bike is moving you can move up to gear 2 already.

 

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[Scandiacus]

U can half clutch move off, then clutch in and upshift without having to fully engage gear 1.

 

Don't worry about learning bro, take ur time! I know it seems like a lot of stuff u need to do with ur hands and legs at he same time, but it'll all become simple and intuitive with time.

 

There is a petite, pretty lady in this forum who used to be unable to even dismount her bike. Now she's just 7 months away from her 2A and her RVF.

 

 

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Who? Mica ah?

 

Actually I was influenced to learn bike by the rising costs and my female buddy as well...she's pretty petite and already has 2A since two months ago...

[timewalker84]

Who? Mica ah?

 

Actually I was influenced to learn bike by the rising costs and my female buddy as well...she's pretty petite and already has 2A since two months ago...

 

My own motivation came when I was driving down the PIE in my old lancer at 120, when I was overtaken by a manical cbr(600?/1000?) ridden by a petite lady. She was wearing a tight dress, adopting a low tank-hugging posture and practically eating every vehicle around her weaving around us snails with quick flicks of the handlebar (which I now understand to be a countersteer swerve). Though I was already at 120, she disappeared within seconds.

 

All I could remember was that she had the world's hottest figure, killer skills and bike to match and a crazy badass attitude. I enrolled at SSDC the next day, and went through all the pain you're now experiencing

 

When I finally passed and got my Honda SP, I happily rode it to my reunion dinner and proudly showed it off to my cousins. They gave me an encouraging but mildly condescending look before showing me their bikes. A Zxr-11 and a blackbird. Each weighed about 2.5 times as heavy (that's actually an underestimate) as the school's Yb125s, and i couldn't even move them...

 

But we inevitably grow as bikers, and today I and still figuring out the limits of my machine and discovering what a lousy rider I still am after four years. The Busa is a brutal, demanding bike which trains its owner, and I don't think I'll ever stop learning new things about biking.

 

Welcome to a world of pain, joy, excitement and fulfillment. Never give up now matter how tough the journey may seem. See you on the road!

 

 

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Edited February 9, 2014 by timewalker84

[timewalker84]

Who? Mica ah?

 

Actually I was influenced to learn bike by the rising costs and my female buddy as well...she's pretty petite and already has 2A since two months ago...

 

Yep, I had the pleasure of meeting the legendary Mica, along with many fun people on this chat group!

 

A lot of the questions that you're having or are about to have are the exact ones which last year's graduates had, and you'll find that almost all of them have been thoroughly answered by Rijac, who's dedicated hours of his life writing tips for new learners. His posts are ridiculously helpful and detailed, and you should trawl through his old posts and print out his advice if you can. They're super helpful. No need to reinvent the wheel when someone has already done all the groundwork for you.

 

 

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Edited February 9, 2014 by timewalker84