Honda New 400cc lineup 2013, CB400F, CB400X, CBR400R

[poorboii]

Was doing some googling around this noon and found out about this new model by Honda.

 

The CB400F

 

It uses the 400cc twin engine tho.

 

From motorbeam,

The new 400cc line up are all powered by a 399cc, parallel-twin, water-cooled engine which produces 46 PS of power at 9500 RPM and 37 Nm of torque at 7500 RPM.

 

Complete article - http://www.motorbeam.com/bikes/honda-cbr400/honda-launches-cbr400-in-japan-announces-specifications/

 

Seems that Honda is unveiling the new CBR400R 2013 version too. As well as other new bikes in the 2A cat.

 

 

Honda CBR400R

 

CB400X

 

 

I would say the new cbr400r looks much better compared to the cbr250r. The CB400X looks fun as well being an adventure bike.

Edited June 16, 2013 by poorboii

[mechwira]

just remember that these are all essentially the same CBR500R, CB500F and CB500X with the 500cc engine downsized to 400cc with shorter stroke.

 

they do this in india because a bike up to 400cc has much lower taxes than a bike above 400cc, so a CBR400R would have a selling price much lower than the original CBR500R.

 

but we dont have such a system. a CBR400R may end up same price as CBR500R because they're basically the same bike. then the CBR400R makes sense only if your license is 2A. the question is.... will it be a 'High Class 2A' price or a 'Low Class 2' price......

[MR BIKER]

Last Saturday , i went to several shops and saw these 2 cbr. 400 and 500. mechwira, you are totally right.it doesnt make sense at all . if i have only 2a license , i prefer the old cbr 400rr or even the rvf. sighhhhhhhhhhh

[poorboii]

Last Saturday , i went to several shops and saw these 2 cbr. 400 and 500. mechwira, you are totally right.it doesnt make sense at all . if i have only 2a license , i prefer the old cbr 400rr or even the rvf. sighhhhhhhhhhh

 

These bikes are out otr? True that the older days bikes are much better but sadly not in production anymore, sad case. But paper specs of the new twin engine seems to hit 45.35hp.

 

just remember that these are all essentially the same CBR500R, CB500F and CB500X with the 500cc engine downsized to 400cc with shorter stroke.

 

they do this in india because a bike up to 400cc has much lower taxes than a bike above 400cc, so a CBR400R would have a selling price much lower than the original CBR500R.

 

but we dont have such a system. a CBR400R may end up same price as CBR500R because they're basically the same bike. then the CBR400R makes sense only if your license is 2A. the question is.... will it be a 'High Class 2A' price or a 'Low Class 2' price......

 

How do our system actually priced the bikes in sg? Seems ridiculous if have to pay a price of 500cc for a 400cc bike.

[poorboii]

double post, weird.

Edited June 17, 2013 by poorboii

[s1rr10n]

Still, in the end the good ol CB400 will be a better choice.

[s1rr10n]

Last Saturday , i went to several shops and saw these 2 cbr. 400 and 500. mechwira, you are totally right.it doesnt make sense at all . if i have only 2a license , i prefer the old cbr 400rr or even the rvf. sighhhhhhhhhhh

 

Bro, which bike shop did u go to?

[calebike]

seen it arriving in crates at the toh guan area

[mechwira]

How do our system actually priced the bikes in sg? Seems ridiculous if have to pay a price of 500cc for a 400cc bike.

 

the final price tag of a bike, anywhere, in simple terms, is (manufacturing cost + profit + taxes).

 

the CBR400R and CBR500R are the same bikes. meaning the manufacturing cost is the same. so if plus same profit and plus same tax (as would be the case in singapore), the final price tag of these two bikes would be the same.

 

in india though, big bikes are luxury goods unlike singapore. any bike above 400cc gets slapped with significantly higher taxes. it is the same in malaysia, thats why an R1 in malaysia costs twice as much compared to singapore (after currency conversion); coz they get slapped with higher taxes. thus the 400cc downsize makes sense because the final price tag will be significantly lower than the 500.

[mechwira]

Last Saturday , i went to several shops and saw these 2 cbr. 400 and 500. mechwira, you are totally right.it doesnt make sense at all . if i have only 2a license , i prefer the old cbr 400rr or even the rvf. sighhhhhhhhhhh

 

got ask the price of the 500? i not interested in the 400 coz like i said, i have a class 2 so why would i buy the same bike with a downsized engine if it costs nearly the same.

 

i didn know these bikes were out. i would have placed the CBR500R as a consideration before buying my ninja 300, depending on the asking price of the cbr. so now i curious to know if the price tag of the CBR500R will make me slap forehead for buying my ninja last week, or roll on the floor laughing at the price they want you to pay for a 'CBR'.

[poorboii]

the final price tag of a bike, anywhere, in simple terms, is (manufacturing cost + profit + taxes).

 

the CBR400R and CBR500R are the same bikes. meaning the manufacturing cost is the same. so if plus same profit and plus same tax (as would be the case in singapore), the final price tag of these two bikes would be the same.

 

in india though, big bikes are luxury goods unlike singapore. any bike above 400cc gets slapped with significantly higher taxes. it is the same in malaysia, thats why an R1 in malaysia costs twice as much compared to singapore (after currency conversion); coz they get slapped with higher taxes. thus the 400cc downsize makes sense because the final price tag will be significantly lower than the 500.

 

In this case, getting the 500cc seems more worth it than the 400cc, but if that is the case, might as well get other class 2 bikes =x

[xue ling]

my fren saw the cbr500r at speedway last month. didn't asked the price though

[s1rr10n]

I've asked Agent before, said that LTA does not approve the 500R model citing reason being "not suitable for Singapore". How can it be seen on the Singapore road???

[mechwira]

In this case, getting the 500cc seems more worth it than the 400cc, but if that is the case, might as well get other class 2 bikes =x

 

PRECISELY.

 

the price of the CBR400/500 is the final say in whether its worth the buy.

 

a ninja300 is 12 to 12.8k machine price, and a yamaha XJ6 is 15.9k machine price. i would pay no more than halfway between these two prices for the CBR500R. in other words, 14k machine price. if the CBR500R really cost 14k machine, i will really slap forehead and cry for buying the ninja not knowing this bike arrives just one week later.

 

but any price 15k and up.... i confirm wont buy coz at that price range i'd rather get the XJ6, a 'true' class 2.

[xue ling]

I've asked Agent before, said that LTA does not approve the 500R model citing reason being "not suitable for Singapore". How can it be seen on the Singapore road???

 

have yet to see any otr. only seen it being displayed in shops. anyway, there might be changes just like the Ninja 300 which Evershine initially said that LTA disapprove

Edited June 17, 2013 by xue ling

[s1rr10n]

The Retail price for CBR400R in Japan is about Y$ 670K

The Retail price for CB400 Revo in Japan about Y$720K

 

The % ratio difference between the two is roughly about 13 - 15%. Despite of the GST, import tax, COE, etc. I would make a rough estimation that the price for CBR400R is about 15% cheaper than a brand new CB400 Revo in Singapore nowadays.

 

Just an estimation tho...

[poorboii]

PRECISELY.

 

the price of the CBR400/500 is the final say in whether its worth the buy.

 

a ninja300 is 12 to 12.8k machine price, and a yamaha XJ6 is 15.9k machine price. i would pay no more than halfway between these two prices for the CBR500R. in other words, 14k machine price. if the CBR500R really cost 14k machine, i will really slap forehead and cry for buying the ninja not knowing this bike arrives just one week later.

 

but any price 15k and up.... i confirm wont buy coz at that price range i'd rather get the XJ6, a 'true' class 2.

 

yup, i agree too. I would get a true class 2 bike too in terms of the price factor since it differs slightly from a 500cc bike.

 

haha dont regret about ur ninja la. It's a pretty awesome bike too!

[altya]

Anybody know e price for CB500X?

[fx110]

Anybody know e price for CB500X?

will know on this July

[KeraKing]

I've asked Agent before, said that LTA does not approve the 500R model citing reason being "not suitable for Singapore". How can it be seen on the Singapore road???

 

have yet to see any otr. only seen it being displayed in shops. anyway, there might be changes just like the Ninja 300 which Evershine initially said that LTA disapprove

 

Say what?

 

What are LTA's reason about those two bike not suitable for singapore roads?

[poorboii]

Say what?

 

What are LTA's reason about those two bike not suitable for singapore roads?

 

LTA sure come up with those nonsense reason.

[casesensitive]

Checked out the cbr400r. Pricing is 16k otr w/o insurance. As for the cb400x unsure but abt slightly cheaper.

[jyew777]

Checked out the cbr400r. Pricing is 16k otr w/o insurance. As for the cb400x unsure but abt slightly cheaper.

 

Which shop please ?

[KeraKing]

Checked out the cbr400r. Pricing is 16k otr w/o insurance. As for the cb400x unsure but abt slightly cheaper.

 

Is this a good price or not?

confused about bikes prices these days..

[PiinoNoirr]

Checked out the cbr400r. Pricing is 16k otr w/o insurance. As for the cb400x unsure but abt slightly cheaper.

 

Which shop is it that provides the price quotes? Any news for Cb400f?