Kawasaki ZX10R Technicial Issue!

[rvf7972]

Originally posted by Alex31@Dec 17 2004, 02:27 PM

The correct phase is downgrading the capacity but upgrading the power of accelerations.

[Sandman]

Hi guyz,

 

Really glad that there's some local rider info on the ZX10. Kudos to ALex31 for starting the tread.

 

Just wanted to ask if anyone has experienced any side-effects from the characteristicly short wheel base? It's shorter than a 636 if I'm not mistake.

 

I'm consider either a 636 or a ZX10. Comments guyz?

[Alex31]

Hi Sandman,

 

Thanks for the input. Well, it depend what you are going to do with the bike. If you are using this for the track, a 636 will be better for you as the power is more controllable. But if you are thinking of street ride & clear carbong in NSH, then a 10r is much better. IMO, the current 10r is shorter than the 636 (04 model) by 5mm. For the riding posture, I dun seem anyone complaining even for a 6 ft guy. I not sure which one can turns in better but both bike are almost the same size except for the capacity. If budget is not really matters to you, the 10r will be good.

 

Here are the link to both technical specs.

 

http://www.kawasaki.ca/sportbike/ZX-10R/tech.html

 

http://www.kawasaki.ca/sportbike/ZX-6R_2004/specs.html

 

http://www.kawasaki.ca/sportbike/ZX-6R/specs.html (This is the next yr model)

 

Enjoy the wind.

 

[Alex31]

Here are the summaries of the Kawa...

 

 

http://www.kawasaki.ca/sportbike/ZX-10R_2004/tech.html

 

http://www.kawasaki.ca/sportbike/ZX-10R/tech.html

 

http://www.kawasaki.ca/sportbike/ZX-6R_2004/tech.html

 

http://www.kawasaki.ca/sportbike/ZX-6R/

 

 

Get the 05 model!

[Sandman]

Thanx Alex31 for the webbies. Guess I should off to do my homework. Hee~ So what's the upgrade in the '05 ZX10 model?

[Alex31]

Hi Sandman,

 

Taken the content from other forum.

 

It's interesting to note that most of the changes are related to items that have been suspect in one way or another. A brief list for those non-insomniacs amongst you:

 

Clutch cable and some related brackets for routing

Rear timing chain guide

Turn signals with mounting hardware

Rod Bolts

Front Brake Pads

Forks

Shock

Shift Star, Detent Arm, and Spring

Muffler

Header

Mid-Pipe

Fan Assy

Rear Brake Master Cylinder

Taillight

Transmission Input & Output Shafts

3rd Gear

 

Can't say I'm surprised by the new shift star, detent and spring. Exhaust stuff, pfffft! Gets replaced my most, anyway. But, gotta say I'm surprised by the fan, rear m/c (does anyone really use it much?), taillight (?) and tranny shafts and gear.

 

 

Hope that will made up your mind.

[aqualung]

Well the bike was with the dealer for 1 week and now it is running again.

Was told that it was due to a "faulty" battery.

Got it replaced and all is well.

I had the "faulty" battery fully charged and left it alone without any load.

Apparently the voltage dropped to below 12volts within 8 hrs.

Anyway,going to Sepang for the weekend,and will see if the problem comes back if we hit rain.

Merry Christmas to everyone. :bouncefire:

[Sandman]

Thanx Alex31,

You make it sound like a perfect christmas gift.

Guess I'll hang around n wait for next year's goodies or a 2nd hand next year.

Merry christmas to everyone~

[Alex31]

Originally posted by aqualung@Dec 24 2004, 10:35 AM

Well the bike was with the dealer for 1 week and now it is running again.

Was told that it was due to a "faulty" battery.

Got it replaced and all is well.

I had the "faulty" battery fully charged and left it alone without any load.

Apparently the voltage dropped to below 12volts within 8 hrs.

Anyway,going to Sepang for the weekend,and will see if the problem comes back if we hit rain.

Merry Christmas to everyone. :bouncefire:

Hi Aqua,

 

Thanks for sharing this information. Hopes that your bike is in good condition now. Please advise us on the bike after the sepang testing. Btw, You are nominated to be the leader for the upcoming trip to Mersing on next Sunday for Lunch.

 

Are you able to do it next Sunday. The guys are asking for some action.

[Alex31]

Originally posted by Sandman@Dec 26 2004, 06:05 PM

Thanx Alex31,

You make it sound like a perfect christmas gift.

Guess I'll hang around n wait for next year's goodies or a 2nd hand next year.

Merry christmas to everyone~

Hi Sand,

 

Take your time. I also take half a yr to save up the deposit. Hope to see you soon on the road in a Kawasaki.

[aqualung]

Originally posted by Alex31@Dec 27 2004, 08:03 AM

Hi Aqua,

 

Thanks for sharing this information. Hopes that your bike is in good condition now. Please advise us on the bike after the sepang testing. Btw, You are nominated to be the leader for the upcoming trip to Mersing on next Sunday for Lunch.

 

Are you able to do it next Sunday. The guys are asking for some action.

The bike ran well. And the weather was perfect. Can say much on the bike because I'm a novice and still new to track riding.

Overall I'm very happy with the bike, it was my 1st time at Sepang, and will be going again.

 

Mersing is about 150km from Esso GP(Gelang Patah) gas station.

On the average it takes about 1.5hrs.

The route will be Highway 3 via the coast.

We can leave the gas station at 9am, have a quick re group after 90km,and arrive in Mersing at 1045hrs.

Gas up, and proceed to makan, which can be a coffee shop or food centre near the sea. After makan, backtrack to GP.

Since this is a group ride, we will meet up 1/2 an hour before the dep. time.

We will not wait for those who come after 9am.

What do you think?

[Alex31]

Thank you for organising the trip in a proper manner. I am confident that this trip will be a good one under your lead. Will post in the Ninja thread!

 

Cheers

[Ken]

Originally posted by Alex31@Dec 24 2004, 08:54 AM

Hi Sandman,

 

Taken the content from other forum.

 

It's interesting to note that most of the changes are related to items that have been suspect in one way or another. A brief list for those non-insomniacs amongst you:

 

Clutch cable and some related brackets for routing

Rear timing chain guide

Turn signals with mounting hardware

Rod Bolts

Front Brake Pads

Forks

Shock

Shift Star, Detent Arm, and Spring

Muffler

Header

Mid-Pipe

Fan Assy

Rear Brake Master Cylinder

Taillight

Transmission Input & Output Shafts

3rd Gear

 

Can't say I'm surprised by the new shift star, detent and spring. Exhaust stuff, pfffft! Gets replaced my most, anyway. But, gotta say I'm surprised by the fan, rear m/c (does anyone really use it much?), taillight (?) and tranny shafts and gear.

 

 

Hope that will made up your mind.

Hi Alex, u mean the above mentioned items is the changes between the 04 and the 05 zx10?

[Alex31]

Yes, but I couldn't confirm the actual ones. You may want to found out more from the Kawasaki.com Btw, are you riding a Kawa?

[Fatgrunt]

hi to all kawasaki zx10r owners.. i would like to know how this bike handles in/out of the corners... because from magazine reviews, this bike tend have a rear sliding characteristic.. i hope that people who bring their lovely zx10r down to the track or even normal road cornering have to say, because i'm keen to be 1 of the ninja's owner. but having problem deciding between a 636 or a zx10.

[Alex31]

Hi Fat,

 

So far I did not really push my bike to the limit & I haven't seen any comment of the sliding issue. It may due to the stock tyres as they need more time to warm up. Maybe aqualung or Pasirris can comment this? We only notice that this bike is very flickerable just like a 600cc. Get the 10R & you won't regret it, if money is not an issue. What are you currently riding now?

 

Here is the vido of the Kawa Sliding. It's a skill to do it, not a problem that was created.

 

Cheers

Alex

 

 

http://www.uponone.com/videos.php?id=2129

[aqualung]

Hi Fatgrunt, What Alex31 said is true. Sliding is a skill if you can do it at will. So far I have not experience sliding with my ZX10. Then and again I am slow, struggling to get below 2mins at Pasir Gudang.In any case don't worry about sliding,not many of us are at that level of riding. I was at Sepang last weekend,had a great time,no sliding. Planning to go again on the 16th Jan.

[Fatgrunt]

wew.. that's cool, i'm currently riding a rvf400 and going to the point that i feel that i need more power.

[Guest Ise]

Ya.U certainly need more power.A racer like u shld get a Kawa.A real track bike!

[Ken]

Originally posted by Alex31@Dec 28 2004, 07:12 AM

Yes, but I couldn't confirm the actual ones. You may want to found out more from the Kawasaki.com Btw, are you riding a Kawa?

Me? i'm a honda.

Just find it weird as from the things u indicate would be changes to the 05 sounds like a total revamp to me.

So far all 10r rider is happy with their bike, thats a good sign.

Nothing beats going on the road with a bike u feel shiok on.

Actually, all 04 models is in my consideration before i took the 1000rr.

Not a bike biased guy, so whatever bike that looks cool always made me drool.

Cheers and hope everyone is able to live their life to the fullest but at the same time don forget to cherish it.

Let's all pray for the victims of the tsunami to get through this difficult period quickly.

 

fatgrunt, can jio our other rvf friend to change together for a better price yoz.

[Alex31]

Originally posted by Fatgrunt@Dec 29 2004, 10:22 PM

wew.. that's cool, i'm currently riding a rvf400 and going to the point that i feel that i need more power.

Hi Fat,

 

There was one time that both of us (ZX10r) were riding along TPE & we came across a RVF with pillion. He gives us a thumbs up, I wonder if that's you?

 

More power is definately important, but a strong HP bike is what we ask for. The pull of this bike is great.

 

Believe it or not.

[Alex31]

Originally posted by Ise@Dec 29 2004, 10:47 PM

Ya.U certainly need more power.A racer like u shld get a Kawa.A real track bike!

U should join him too! I used to ride a rvf 400 (New) back in 1998. Only ride half a year & change to a SRAD 750(New). When you got a class 2, there is no turning back. Although I lose quite a bit of money, but nvr regret it. The power is great.

 

But I really like the shape of the rvf. Most sexy in the class 2A & the sound is sweet. I remember I even install a Two Brother racing bolt-on. Very flickable & nice to ride, but too bad it is not really suitable for big size guy.

 

RVF=Riders Very Fast :cheer:

[Guest Ise]

Originally posted by Alex31@Dec 30 2004, 09:11 AM

U should join him too! I used to ride a rvf 400 (New) back in 1998. Only ride half a year & change to a SRAD 750(New). When you got a class 2, there is no turning back. Although I lose quite a bit of money, but nvr regret it. The power is great.

 

But I really like the shape of the rvf. Most sexy in the class 2A & the sound is sweet. I remember I even install a Two Brother racing bolt-on. Very flickable & nice to ride, but too bad it is not really suitable for big size guy.

 

RVF=Riders Very Fast :cheer:

Haha I can't join you guys so fast lah cos I juz got my R1.Unless got shop that's willing to take in my bike at high price. When I go for my parttime class at nite at temasek poly,alway saw a green ZX10 there.Makes me abit gian... Anyway I already can't control the power of my R1 liao so muz train more then can change to a Kawa or Suzuki or else sure cannot handle the raw power that it has.

 

 

Still love RVF sound the most too!

[Alex31]

Originally posted by Ken@Dec 30 2004, 12:26 AM

Me? i'm a honda.

Just find it weird as from the things u indicate would be changes to the 05 sounds like a total revamp to me.

So far all 10r rider is happy with their bike, thats a good sign.

Nothing beats going on the road with a bike u feel shiok on.

Actually, all 04 models is in my consideration before i took the 1000rr.

Not a bike biased guy, so whatever bike that looks cool always made me drool.

Cheers and hope everyone is able to live their life to the fullest but at the same time don forget to cherish it.

Let's all pray for the victims of the tsunami to get through this difficult period quickly.

 

fatgrunt, can jio our other rvf friend to change together for a better price yoz.

Hi Ken,

 

Glad that you chose a bike that you like. This is also a first time that I picked up a Kawa, but I really like the green colour although I nearly go for the black one.

 

The changes that you see is only minor modification that was taken as a feedback which Kawasaki did a survey in the web to gather the feedback from the riders from all over the world. I am very glad that Kawasaki Heavy Industrial put in a great effort to take note & change them instead just having the same problem to evolve to the 05's. They also make sure that all the owners change their front wheels instead of covering up the issue despite only 3 cases in the world so far & they are the smallest Bike manufacturer among the Four major Brands. The only problems most of the 10r riders that have encounter is the "FI" light which lights up after a wash or in other scenarios. There is a sensor that is under the fuel tank which collects water due to the design of this rubber cap protecting this sensor. This sensor is to shut-off the engine when the bike dropped so sometimes due to the water trapped on the cap, it will light up. Usually, I just need to use the correct procedure to start the bike. This bike is also equipped with a design that eliminate missing gearing in stationary position. If you are in second gear, when you clutch in, it will go to the neutral gear instead of maybe missing the slot & go into the first gear. There is also a slippery clutch which I find it very useful even on the streets. You can drop 3 gears at one time & the back wheel still won't skid. That's a beauty to me.

 

 

Like what you say, I did a research on all 04 models & believe me, CBR 1000r was my first priority. I even went down to Honda Boon Siew to get all the details & facts. This is one of the best bike Honda has produced b/c of the technology that was instill into this bike. But when the review I saw on this bike' HP has produced & the way of the wiring design around the bike, I knew that there will be problems when doing maintenance. The steering damper & the immobiliser is a good catch but most of the Honda superstock race team removed the damper for a reason & the immobiliser function is a very expensive device that bundled with the CDI. I hope you are not offend by what I have commented on this bike.

 

Kawasaki give the ZX10R the power & the technology for the track. (Flickable, power, slippery clutch). The suspension needs more attention.

 

Honda give the CBR 1000R for smooth & easy rideable feel, advanced technology & netural handling. Each has their own good point & bad ones.

 

Why dun you share your comments here. The above comments are my own, pls do not take it to heart.

 

Btw, we are going to Mersing for a ride cum makan session this Sunday. Care to join in but we will be travelling not really fast b/c some of them is the first time there. (I am one of them). THe main idea is to have a safe & enjoyable trip.

[Fatgrunt]

Rvf.. definitely not for a fat grunt like i am... currently planning my financial stuff for my bike.. the zx10r sure is sweet but i don't think i will be able to utilise a unit with such powerplant. for now.