Adiva ADtre owner's thread

[advia89]

:angel:The Advia Research & Design inspiration maybe begin from this bicycle development....(putting some fun between your 2 legs)....

[ben1112]

:angel:The Advia Research & Design inspiration maybe begin from this bicycle development....(putting some fun between your 2 legs)....[ATTACH=CONFIG]289492[/ATTACH]

 

If you don't mind can put here and show us instead of keeping us in suspense? Good things must share:cheers:

[Andre]

I think we have found a way to eliminate or minimize the rider from getting wet by the rainwater which importantly, this improvising did not incur huge cost or massive modify work......

 

We have put the "improvise" AD3 in today's heavy rain fall test and the result was quite impressive....

 

 

this is our swee swee prototype test model.....[ATTACH=CONFIG]289480[/ATTACH]

 

Pls invite us to join in for the rain test.

[ben1112]

 

I recommend meguiars quik detailed for matte black paint. Promotes water beading. This color most of the wax and polish on the market is not suitable. But this recommendation is safe.

[Andre]

Hi Ben, how is the result of the new mud flaps?

I tested my side deflector, now my feet and legs have better protection but pillion's feet still gets splash from front wheels.

[Andre]

The water splashed from front wheels to underside of the floor board and went through the narrowest part of the floor board (between rider & pillion foot rest) and splashed to pillion's feet.

Think additional mud flap for the front wheels is a must.

Edited October 2, 2013 by Andre

[ben1112]

The water splashed from front wheels to underside of the floor board and went through the narrowest part of the floor board (between rider & pillion foot rest) and splashed to pillion's feet.

Think additional mud flap for the front wheels is a must.

 

Yes the mudflaps work. First they have virtually eliminated any tyre spray from reaching the wheel well. Secondly the angle of water jet leaving the front tyres are significantly reduced. This means the water does not spray high enough to pass through the narrowest part of the gap but still manage to hit the board below it, which is perfectly acceptable to me at least.

 

One slight concern may be the mudflaps contacting the tyre very slightly on hard deceleration as I notice some very light scruff on the underside of the flaps. As they were really slight I decided to leave it as it is and further observe.

[Landwaster]

Just received my mudflaps in the mail yesterday and installed them last night. Will update on how well it works when it rains next time.

[ben1112]

Just received my mudflaps in the mail yesterday and installed them last night. Will update on how well it works when it rains next time.

 

Lan, mind sharing some pics? Also did you add any support on the underside as I did? If you didn't it may contact the tyre.

[ben1112]

Dear fellow owners, please do check on yr tyre pressure regularly. I just had a leaking tyre valve stem replaced FOC at Mah. Unknowingly I had ridden the bike with low pressure for God knows how long, even veteran riders might be caught off-guard as the double wheels in front means that it will not exhibit systems like front wheel wobble typical of two wheelers have a flat front.

 

However the only obvious symptom will be heavy steering and difficulty in maneuvering while parking. Also the wiper fluid tube cracked, do note as well.

[Andre]

Thanks for the info. It explains why your FC is higher. Now you should have a better FC.

 

Btw, any idea what is the tyre pressure?

[ben1112]

Thanks for the info. It explains why your FC is higher. Now you should have a better FC.

 

Btw, any idea what is the tyre pressure?

 

Because I was not give an owner's manual, I went to google manufacturer specs on Maxxis M6029 and decided on 33psi front and 36psi rear, same as my last scooter.

[advia89]

This?

 

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I think we have found a way to eliminate or minimize the rider from getting wet by the rainwater which importantly, this improvising did not incur huge cost or massive modify work......

 

We have put the "improvise" AD3 in today's heavy rain fall test and the result was quite impressive....

 

intent to run a few more test to conclude our test report which could be share if there are interested Advia3 riders and owners.....

 

Hahaha.... Andre.... not this one you post:cry:[ATTACH=CONFIG]289481[/ATTACH]. this is our swee swee prototype test model.....[ATTACH=CONFIG]289480[/ATTACH]

 

If you don't mind can put here and show us instead of keeping us in suspense? Good things must share:cheers:

 

Pls invite us to join in for the rain test.

 

Hi Bros

Thank you for your patience and apology for the delay revert was due to the rigid rain weather testing to ensure the recommendations are of certain quality report reviews. Nonetheless shall share and contribute the prototype modification, retrofitting problem area and where to source the material locally. However there are rooms for further improvement if any and welcome feedback pertaining to the matter.

[advia89]

1) Photo 1 shown the AD3 has a PVC sticker being stick on the windscreen to reduce the sun glare. The rubber lining was added to the windscreen edges for water repel and safeguard the polycarbonate windscreen edges.

 

2) Photo 2 shown the AD3 front lower body guard has a thicker type of rubber moulding lining added to the edges. This is where the main concern is as where the rainwater seems to be flicking their entry into the rider and pillion cabin area.

 

3) Photo 3 shown the simulation of the rainwater direction...

 

4) Photo 4 shown the simulation of the water pick up by the AD3 2 front tyres which can be minimise by adding the mud flap and mud guard.

 

5) Photo 5 shown the mud flap.....Besides the online order for the mud flaps, we can buy the rubber pieces locally as they are low in cost to be cut and trimmed ....

 

6) Photo 6 shown the mud guard added just after the mud flap. The mudguard was taken from Nissan car's rear ......

 

 

The last 2 photos shown are the 2 types of rubber lining. FYI the first photo shown the 10mm rubber lining which was used on the windscreen edges, both for repel the water and added protection to the polycarbonate windscreen. It requires about 2 meters in length and is retail for about $4 per meter run.

 

For the AD3 front lower body edge which the 26mm circular cushion rubber lining was used and requires about 2 meters length. It was brought at $6 per meter run.

 

You can get this mentioned products e.g rubber lining and rubber pieces for mud flaps at Garlin Pte Ltd. They have 2 outlets and the address are

1) 112 Kallang Place Singapre 339184 Tel 62998866

2) 5039 Ang Mo Kio Indust Park 2, Singapore 569542 Tel 629998866

 

Please also note the rear tyre also has to be fitted a "large size" mud flap. This was highlighted earlier in Ben1112 recommendations where the rear tyre will kicks up and swirl the water into the cabin's rear.........

Edited October 3, 2013 by advia89

[ben1112]

....For the AD3 front lower body edge which the 26mm circular cushion rubber lining was used and requires about 2 meters length. It was brought at $6 per meter run.

 

You can get this mentioned products e.g rubber lining and rubber pieces for mud flaps at Garlin Pte Ltd. They have 2 outlets and the address are

1) 112 Kallang Place Singapre 339184 Tel 62998866

2) 5039 Ang Mo Kio Indust Park 2, Singapore 569542 Tel 629998866

 

Please also note the rear tyre also has to be fitted a "large size" mud flap. This was highlighted earlier in Ben1112 recommendations where the rear tyre will kicks up and swirl the water into the cabin's rear.........

 

Dear adiva89, the mudflap looks like it would work really well but in my honest opinion it is a little ugly at the moment. The mud flap itself looks fine but it's just the hardware and probably the way it's mounted makes it look like a 'hack' job. I would suggest that the logo be painted over and a smaller washer be used. Also the open end nuts could be changed for closed 'dome' type nuts and have the mudflap edges cut to line up the body better.

 

As this is a prototype, I hope that you do find my suggestions constructive and not too overly nitpicking as I think your design has the potential to be the perfect solution while mine is just a simple one.

 

I have struggled with myself for awhile between pre-fab and DIY materials but settled with the more expensive option for aesthetics and ease of application. My pov is that even in its original state this bike is very good looking and I try to not alter it too overtly.

 

However the application of the rubber D pipe is brilliant which I'll definitely adopt but will only run it up to the point where it meets the windshield edge as it should look nicer that way and the excess may be limited in function as well.

 

Keep the mods coming guys it's getting really interesting!

[ben1112]

In short I think it would be perfect if it look less 'slapped on' and more 'OEM' look.

[ben1112]

Btw does anyone know where I can get those heat insulating padding with sticky side(adhesive)? If you open up the plastic compartment under the seat you can see some pasted on the gas tank to insulate the heat from the engine to the tank.

 

I want to paste some in the right pillion floorboard to reduce heat transfer to pillion foot.

[Landwaster]

Lan, mind sharing some pics? Also did you add any support on the underside as I did? If you didn't it may contact the tyre.

 

I actually used the plastic cover of a black plastic file (like the ones with clear pockets for holding documents) and cut out a shpe to support the mudflap as the mudflap was too soft. Pic attached below.

Not sure if the mudflap is the cause, but seems to feel that the front wheels are not as stable (very slightly) when I ride above 95 kmh. Did not feel this before the mudflaps were installed, but think the impact is really quite small. Likely I am very sensitive to the feel of a bike...

 

[advia89]

Jh

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The last 2 photos shown are the 2 types of rubber lining. FYI the first photo shown the 10mm rubber lining which was used on the windscreen edges, both for repel the water and added protection to the polycarbonate windscreen. It requires about 2 meters in length and is retail for about $4 per meter run.

 

For the AD3 front lower body edge which the 26mm circular cushion rubber lining was used and requires about 2 meters length. It was brought at $6 per meter run.

 

You can get this mentioned products e.g rubber lining and rubber pieces for mud flaps at Garlin Pte Ltd. They have 2 outlets and the address are

1) 112 Kallang Place Singapre 339184 Tel 62998866

2) 5039 Ang Mo Kio Indust Park 2, Singapore 569542 Tel 629998866

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Missed out the Garlin Pte Ltd retail outlet at block 101 Towner Road #01-220/222 Singapore 322101...opposite the Boon Keng MRT which was the shop the rubber lining was purchased....

[Andre]

Well done Advia89. It is very very nice

This is exactly what I have in mind for the mudflap & mudguard to be installed.

 

I'm still looking around to see what car's mudguard can fit nicely with minimum modification.

[ben1112]

I think nearly everyone had his own mods. Shall we meet up sometime for tea?

[ben1112]

I actually used the plastic cover of a black plastic file (like the ones with clear pockets for holding documents) and cut out a shpe to support the mudflap as the mudflap was too soft. Pic attached below.

Not sure if the mudflap is the cause, but seems to feel that the front wheels are not as stable (very slightly) when I ride above 95 kmh. Did not feel this before the mudflaps were installed, but think the impact is really quite small. Likely I am very sensitive to the feel of a bike...

 

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Lan I think the file is not strong enough. If you want i can cut some pieces for you from my leftover supplement tubs.

[Andre]

Anyone going for Motul Bike Festival this Sunday?

[advia89]

Well done Advia89. It is very very nice

This is exactly what I have in mind for the mudflap & mudguard to be installed.

 

I'm still looking around to see what car's mudguard can fit nicely with minimum modification.

 

Hi Andre

Thanks and appreciated the compliments.

 

What was done is prototype as to gather the best possible solutions to a design concept and mindful on cost, easy adoption of local source parts and non messy modifications.

 

Noted your earlier post to use the industrial "cable trunking" PVC piece, with hot air to shape out the side reflectors design object does seems another solution provider....

 

We have tried out this "after mod" and has able the AD3 to "swim" through without the rider getting wet which somehow tested successful if to compare with the original or "before mod" status...

 

I tend to agree that this prototype looks like a hack work...nonetheless once the rain deflector design concept is affirmative which the refinement process shall follows.....

 

Don't be alarm that this said modify work would have to "cut" or "saw" the AD3 body parts.

 

FYI the car mud guards are fitted without drilling the AD3 lower body.

 

The lower part of the car mud guard is screw on using the existing AD3 body screw holes and the top part is "clip on" and they are held down by the added on rubber lining......

 

feel free to query if there are further clarifications ...

[advia89]

Btw does anyone know where I can get those heat insulating padding with sticky side(adhesive)? If you open up the plastic compartment under the seat you can see some pasted on the gas tank to insulate the heat from the engine to the tank.

 

I want to paste some in the right pillion floorboard to reduce heat transfer to pillion foot.

 

you could consider the suggestion to go by to any car audio workshop to buy the "loose" pieces of the sound proof padding with the stick adhesive side while the other side is the aluminium foil material. This sound proof padding material has dual purpose not just only meant for sound proofing the car doors, the aluminium foil side kept the heat away too.

 

The car audio workhop "loose" piece is suffice as the AD3 does not require the whole large piece as are charge per meter run.

Edited October 4, 2013 by advia89