[Blogs] Today while riding...

[zalk]

You're talking about staying in front of a car and afraid that he/she might not notice or be irritated that you're ahead. The whole point is getting noticed whether he's irritated or not. If the driver intends to kill you, he'll kill you irregardless you're in front, behind or beside, if you're ahead, this is where a more powerful bike helps against your wannabe killer. The whole point of getting noticed is so they don't unintentionally kill you, that's why its called an accident. Whether you dawdle or not is a moot point. The chances of drivers dawdling is much higher than a rider, mofos have alot of things to distract themselves.

 

I doubt you even ride.

 

If you want to get noticed, the best way is to not lane split since you're so safety-oriented. Might as well wear a orange helmet and day glo jacket and take MRT to be super safe. If you want to lower your already low odds of survival on the road, be my guest. Just one less black sheep giving the rest of us a bad name is all.

 

I doubt you even have any concept of road safety.

 

End of the day its this: if you want to lower your odds of survival by needlessly provoking others "for your own safety", its your taichi.

[duo]

Dont know what are they rushing? See bike like a ghost, never give way one and anyhow cut ppl lane.... horn them to let them aware

 

-FRS-

Sad thing is no matter how bright your clothes or bike is they will somehow never notice you. Whether you lane split or not they will still not notice you until its too late. Then they will say you were in their blindspot.

 

If only they bothered to turn their heads and be more focused while driving. Blindspots are not called blindspots for nothing. While waiting to make a right turn years back I was nudged in the rear by some drivers inching out. Thankfully my mudguard is quite flexible. My bike felt somewhat peculiarly 'immobilized'. Looked back and saw the bumper was pressing against my mudguard. Looked at driver and he gave a sorry gesture. Since its no biggie to me I waved back. However there were some cases whereby the drivers will wind down the window and shout at me asking why I stopped. It was obvious the traffic in front was not clear so how do I proceed?

 

It was obvious that these drivers are either dumb or just look down on riders or even both. So with drivers having these attitude however visible you try to be you will still be 'invisible' to them till its too late.

[danielling1981]

Waving is no use one. Our driver here dont give way pne. Happened to me last time. Waving but they speed up.....

 

 

-FRS-

 

For me waving is used when at a red light, I lane split to the front and regardless of whether I stay at the lane split lane or I cut to the front of the vehicle. I will do the wave.

 

For me so far only fail once and I started this for few years.

 

The fail once is where I was still at lane split lane. When light turn green the car just super step acceleration and chiong without any regard. But I was still in safe position. 1 fail out of 3 years or more of riding. Not too bad already. It's just an additional thing u can try to make urself more visible

[danielling1981]

Just to clarify. My cutting in front of other vehicle is only about red light. Not while cruising... Maybe some of you misunderstood and I apologize

[imjustin]

Your sense of entitlement is disgusting dear sir. Other cars don't cut in front of waiting cars, then take their sweet time to move off. As it is, lane splitting, while not illegal, is not polite if you make everyone wait for you by taking your time to move off. The fact is this, if you don't like waiting and want to lane split, don't make others wait for you too. Give and take. Speaking of impatience, why don't you look at yourself being impatient and lane splitting first before calling the kettle black eh?

 

 

"I'm entitled to ride/drive at a speed I deem safe for the conditions of the road at that time" Dry roads, empty junction, I shoot across, no delay, 99% of the time.

 

But if there's a potential red light jumper coming from another direction, I' sure as hell ain't gonna do that. I'd move off cautiously, make sure all traffic is stopped then roll on the throttle and move off.

 

My point is that if the conditions are unsafe, I'm NOT going to ride outside of my limits JUST because the traffic behind me wants to do so.

So yes, IF the roads are wet, and I wanna ride much slower than normal, I'll go to the slowest lane and ride slowly and sit in traffic, no problem there.

 

But in that lane, I am ENTITLED to that lane; I am NOT gonna speed/ride beyond what's safe for those conditions for the sake of letting the car behind me reach his destination earlier.

 

With that said, if the roads are wet and I don't plan on gunning it when the lights go green, yes, I DO sit in traffic and just wait in line.

If i'm splitting on the highways, and I see a biker behind, I do move over to the right and let them pass.

 

 

I hope you get my point here. I'm very sure you'll appreciate that 'entitlement' of a lane too when it's pouring wet, and and don't wish to be riding on the white lines. Like you said, give and take.

[imjustin]

Wow. What a prick. You are those black sheep who brings bad name to riders. Smiliar to those who lane split on highway at 70-80kph. U squeeze all the way in front n then take your own sweet selfish time to move off. You delaying those cars who had waited patiently at all traffic light. You also delayed riders who are behind you. Ur action choked up the rest of the traffic behind you. u shouldnt be on the road.

 

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Hey Doremi, please read my reply above this post.

No need for the name callings, it's very distasteful.

 

Don't tell me you've never slowed down on wet roads before for your own safety.

 

I guess every motorcyclist who've moved off cautiously due to an adverse condition doesn't deserve to be on the roads because he/she is holding up some young racing beng behind him?

[imjustin]

If you want to get noticed, the best way is to not lane split since you're so safety-oriented. Might as well wear a orange helmet and day glo jacket and take MRT to be super safe. If you want to lower your already low odds of survival on the road, be my guest. Just one less black sheep giving the rest of us a bad name is all.

 

I doubt you even have any concept of road safety.

 

End of the day its this: if you want to lower your odds of survival by needlessly provoking others "for your own safety", its your taichi.

 

Zalk, while I appreciate you not wanting to provoke others and stay out of any trouble with cars, I think you should be aware than your own safety is not only about avoiding accidents with other cars.

 

Things like loose sand or gravel or wet white-lines can get you too, if you're not careful. It's also about riding safely and not hurting yourself by losing control, and if need be, this sometimes involves riding slower than usual depending on the conditions. Sometimes, you just HAVE to hold traffic up a little bit in those adverse conditions.

 

If you don't understand that and still wish to ride fast regardless of traffic or road condition to get out of the way, then its your taichi too.

Edited April 6, 2014 by imjustin

[zalk]

Zalk, while I appreciate you not wanting to provoke others and stay out of any trouble with cars, I think you should be aware than your own safety is not only about avoiding accidents with other cars.

 

Things like loose sand or gravel or wet white-lines can get you too, if you're not careful. It's also about riding safely and not hurting yourself by losing control, and if need be, this sometimes involves riding slower than usual depending on the conditions. Sometimes, you just HAVE to hold traffic up a little bit in those adverse conditions.

 

If you don't understand that and still wish to ride fast regardless of traffic or road condition to get out of the way, then its your taichi too.

 

Bro, if really got a visible hazard I also don't expect people to speed. What we are debating about is whether it is right to put yourself in front of a car after lane splitting at traffic lights then dawdle while moving off "for your own safety" to avoid a Ma Chi incident. IMHO if you want to be safe then you should go dawdle at the back where you're not holding people up and let someone else get T-boned. Thats the point im making. If you want to lane split then move off fast.

 

I don't expect ppl to ride like JB kup liddat, within 15 seconds of moving off on a clear road they're nowhere to be seen already. Until now I dont understand how 125cc four stroke can go so fast. Be safe but don't end up being so safe until other road users get annoyed and reckless and its less safe for you.

[duo]

Bro, if really got a visible hazard I also don't expect people to speed. What we are debating about is whether it is right to put yourself in front of a car after lane splitting at traffic lights then dawdle while moving off "for your own safety" to avoid a Ma Chi incident. IMHO if you want to be safe then you should go dawdle at the back where you're not holding people up and let someone else get T-boned. Thats the point im making. If you want to lane split then move off fast.

 

I don't expect ppl to ride like JB kup liddat, within 15 seconds of moving off on a clear road they're nowhere to be seen already. Until now I dont understand how 125cc four stroke can go so fast. Be safe but don't end up being so safe until other road users get annoyed and reckless and its less safe for you.

Its not the bike its the rider.

[sawfly]

Bro, if really got a visible hazard I also don't expect people to speed. What we are debating about is whether it is right to put yourself in front of a car after lane splitting at traffic lights then dawdle while moving off "for your own safety" to avoid a Ma Chi incident. IMHO if you want to be safe then you should go dawdle at the back where you're not holding people up and let someone else get T-boned. Thats the point im making. If you want to lane split then move off fast.

 

I don't expect ppl to ride like JB kup liddat, within 15 seconds of moving off on a clear road they're nowhere to be seen already. Until now I dont understand how 125cc four stroke can go so fast. Be safe but don't end up being so safe until other road users get annoyed and reckless and its less safe for you.

 

 

actually hor, how long can you really dawdle to get ppl really pissed off? unless you are day dreaming or looking elsewhere except the traffic light u will really pissed ppl off.

 

and my behavior may not as exemplary as compared to other riders and i minimise on making other road users become pissed off, i do cut in front of other cars after lane splitting just to give space to the lane splitting biker behind me to move up to the front instead of being sandwiched.

[danielling1981]

"I'm entitled to ride/drive at a speed I deem safe for the conditions of the road at that time" Dry roads, empty junction, I shoot across, no delay, 99% of the time.

 

But if there's a potential red light jumper coming from another direction, I' sure as hell ain't gonna do that. I'd move off cautiously, make sure all traffic is stopped then roll on the throttle and move off.

 

My point is that if the conditions are unsafe, I'm NOT going to ride outside of my limits JUST because the traffic behind me wants to do so.

So yes, IF the roads are wet, and I wanna ride much slower than normal, I'll go to the slowest lane and ride slowly and sit in traffic, no problem there.

 

But in that lane, I am ENTITLED to that lane; I am NOT gonna speed/ride beyond what's safe for those conditions for the sake of letting the car behind me reach his destination earlier.

 

With that said, if the roads are wet and I don't plan on gunning it when the lights go green, yes, I DO sit in traffic and just wait in line.

If i'm splitting on the highways, and I see a biker behind, I do move over to the right and let them pass.

 

 

I hope you get my point here. I'm very sure you'll appreciate that 'entitlement' of a lane too when it's pouring wet, and and don't wish to be riding on the white lines. Like you said, give and take.

 

I think no 1 is arguing that we riders r entitled to the lane. The point is the some drivers doesn't think so. So which is more important? Your life or your rights? I have learnt to throw away my rights on the road and just ensure my safety. Whether ride or drive

[sawfly]

seriously no point about arguing about entitlement, rider or driver. time to move off just move off. hold on so tightly for what? just ride on. if u nv kaciau ppl no need to worry and just be aware enough to siam nonsense like this.

 

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[zalk]

What I'm trying to say is by the time the light turns green, you look right for a potential red light jumper, by the time you realise he is there, estimate his speed, whether he is going to stop, maybe even wait for him to begin braking, (multiply everything here by the number of lanes of traffic), it is easily 5 or 10 seconds and the cars beside you are long gone.

 

So in that case lane splitting is pointless because no one has benefited. Not you, not the driver stuck behind you wondering what you are doing. And now he is more likely to be impatient towards you and do stupid things like overtaking closely. Then like that might as well sit in line and let someone else get hit by the red light jumper.

 

No one is asking you to ride like mad just because there's a moron behind you. Just know when lane splitting is beneficial to yourself and others and when it is not. When it isn't, don't do it.

 

You see what I'm getting at? It isn't beneficial for anyone in certain scenarios. Yes thank you for moving to the left lane to make way for others when you can. People do appreciate it.

[wait4me]

the word entitled is wrong ..

[imjustin]

I'm just defending my words because some people said that I'm a black sheep and I shouldn't be allowed on the roads.

 

I prioritize my safety on the roads. And unfortunately sometimes, that will be at the expense of other road users in the sense of moving off slower than usual.

Does that warrant me to 'not belong on the roads' for thinking that way??

It may be selfish at times, but it's only coz I have no other choice as situation at the time just so happen to be against my favour.

 

No one is perfect and can see the future. I filter to the front and move off fast 99% of the time. But just so happen at the front there's some loose gravel or sand on the road, or I spot a potential red light jumper coming fast from another direction. It's in those 1% of situations where I hope drivers/riders can be patient and understanding to give me the time to move off cautiously and a bit more slowly, as I would too for everyone else. And I'm sure many of you would appreciate that gesture too. I'm not even talking about 5-10 seconds here, it's more like 1 second.

 

Just because that 1% happens, I shouldn't be allowed to be on the roads?! More like the 1% of drivers/riders who don't understand that concept shouldn't be allowed to be on the roads because of their impatience!

 

Perhaps my use of the word "entitled" is wrong or misunderstood by many here and I apologize. I meant it in situations such as the one explained above where I'm "entitled" to ensure safe conditions before moving off despite it potentially annoying impatient drivers/riders.

 

I have nothing more to say and my examples are clear. Just hope everyone here has pleasant and safe rides in the days to come.

[wait4me]

how abt staying 2 cars behind the stop line then ?

[epk]

how abt staying 2 cars behind the stop line then ?

 

I think best don't step out of the house. Wait walk under block kena flower pot how???

[ki113r]

I think best don't step out of the house. Wait walk under block kena flower pot how???

 

Stay at home might not be the safest. Neighbour house catch fire & spread to his house how?

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Cook curry kena complained how

[epk]

Stay at home might not be the safest. Neighbour house catch fire & spread to his house how?

 

Lol bro like that how. Squeeze all the way in front at traffic light also problem.. stay at home also problem.. Aiyo.....

[Silent Hunter]

Lol bro like that how. Squeeze all the way in front at traffic light also problem.. stay at home also problem.. Aiyo.....

 

Sell away the bike, take the bus lor!

[duo]

Sell away the bike, take the bus lor!

Then can become bus enthusiast and record your bus journeys. Nothing better to do but whatever floats their boat.

[ticks]

Haha. Ya. Then go around snapping vids of people not moving in to the rear of the bus.

[gwzc_mk2]

Haha. Ya. Then go around snapping vids of people not moving in to the rear of the bus.

 

bus otaku FTW~!!!

[imjustin]

Sell away the bike, take the bus lor!

 

Cannot fall asleep. Coz if an old person stands near you, get ready to appear on Stomp.