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mechwira · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by CBR600RR03@Jan 16 2006, 07:56 PM
bro mech...
ehh...u living in the west....
same here ,.,..
this FPO60....
is an addictive to treat the petrol n engines rite??
theres a post about it rite...this guy u mentioned...bring in samples...

yah dats the one, i keen to try but donno where to get from.

negativecreep · January 16, 2006

juz used a brand called BLUE CORAL...

bought @ SHELL....ex....since i dun used it often as STPs...

smooth delivery from the first injection...

GOOD??

negativecreep · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by mechwira@Jan 16 2006, 07:57 PM
yah dats the one, i keen to try but donno where to get from.

count me in BRO....

mechwira · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by CBR600RR03@Jan 16 2006, 07:59 PM
count me in BRO....

i have never on any bike used any fuel additives before. i have always believed fuel additives to be 'snake oil'. however since this FP60 has been getting good reviews including uncle hock in his sports car, tot i'd give it a try, but prob is my schedule i cannot 'plan' appointment meet ANR Impex collect from him, so i want to noe where got sell so i can pop by when free.

negativecreep · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by mechwira@Jan 16 2006, 08:05 PM
i have never on any bike used any fuel additives before. i have always believed fuel additives to be 'snake oil'. however since this FP60 has been getting good reviews including uncle hock in his sports car, tot i'd give it a try, but prob is my schedule i cannot 'plan' appointment meet ANR Impex collect from him, so i want to noe where got sell so i can pop by when free.

we'll wait for UNCLE' HOCK reply then.....

negativecreep · January 16, 2006

sori to all RRs riders...

just curious...(no OFFENCE....MOTOWORLD!)

have u heard bout the sliders MOTOWORLD bring in...

i think its PROCOM engineering ....

it has the basic functions of a slider...

besides...it look smaller n e 'head' in particular can be change ...

it comes with colours to match ur bike..

wat do u guys think about the product???

sportb1ke · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by hockie69@Jan 16 2006, 06:57 PM
*Stock RR5 comes with philips brand light blub too.So if upgrade to either Diaomond/crystal vision.....are cfm safe !(since both blub are the same brand) unless any kuku misplace the rubber seal cap & it melts la(how rare?)

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saw at motorworld

diaomond vision - $85
crystal vision - $75

uncle hock rockz ya! always very informative....

just one last qn hehe...

can i change only the normal headlight bulb to philip, says crystal vision, without changing the other high beam bulb (i.e. high beam remains using stock bulb)?

will it cause electrical circuit problem?

or are we supposed to change both sides at any one time...?

sportb1ke · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by hockie69@Jan 16 2006, 07:04 PM
eeerrrr...define near.

if look at the malaysia map...."near" = johor state."far" = penang?

lolz................

this week....anybody want to go 2nd link...for food/fuel ?

20th, Jan - FRIDAY

PERLING/KULAI SUPPER

Meet at GP esso 9pm. Set off by 930pm.

anyone onz?

1. sportb1ke

2.

AlvZz · January 16, 2006

20th, Jan - FRIDAY

PERLING/KULAI SUPPER

Meet at GP esso 9pm. Set off by 930pm.

anyone onz?

1. sportb1ke

2. A|vZz

3.

Shark · January 16, 2006

someone selling the bulb. is it cheap?

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....howtopic=105970

hockie69 · January 16, 2006

i did a FR on another forum.

repost again.

*it base on car usage but will show more improvement in bike.

-i metup with the reseller(the guy i buy from) during the SBF event.(happens to be de same guy).he is working with ANR in this forum....so either u guys get from ANR or i try to contact him lor.

*he mention the balance stock for the FP60 is very limited...new stock may come in after CNY.

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had just complete my 8K KM trial of this mention product.

lets look at the "claim" as stated on the product sticker.

http://www.o2asis.biz/index.html

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6152/fp6016cn.th.jpg

Clean Fuel system

Cleans injectors

Remove carbon and varnish

Removes harmful water from fuels

Fuel stabilizer

Will not harm 02 sensor

Potentially increase MPG

Clean combustion camber

Redues harmful emissions

Reduces Black smoke

Less Pollution

Clean Fuel system - clean fuel? how to tell? lolz

Cleans injectors - injectors looks clean - but caltex petrol also have cleaning additive leh

Remove carbon and varnish - new car where find carbon?(if have also clear during N-S liao

Fuel stabilizer - winter storage? pumping RON92 still will PING engine hor

Will not harm 02 sensor - the OIL will not harm the sensor,it the carbon !

Potentially increase MPG - if it says "will"..then it snake oil liao.

Clean combustion camber - moden petrol all have additive to clean leh.

Redues harmful emissions - i dont see forest re-glow & i dun "breath" from a exhaust.

Reduces Black smoke - diasel engine lah.

Less Pollution - hmmm...forest taking over our city yet?

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driver's butt feeling

#1-mid-speed pick up feels better

#2-car able to pick up speed w/o gearbox changing to lower gear

#3- top speed remain unchange

#4- MPG aka FC remains unchange

#5- $2.64/tank topup adding FP60

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summery ;

#1- if you pump JB/MY petrol every tank-u need this FP60

#2-if you like fast pickup w/o paying the increase in FC(heavy foot no count).

#3- it feels like RON98 but using RON65 nia

#5- if u have TURBO,dun think u will be concern with petrol price.yeah?

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cost : S$33/32oz (package w LC-20)

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is it a snake oil? : NO.it did not claim on improve power nor FC.

is it "good staff to recommend" ? : SUBJECTIVE.if u like the "feeling" get it.if u road-hugger-need not get it.

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overall product : 8/10 ( it does what it claims )

driver's feeling : 10/10 (u can really feel the pickup is much smooth)

driver's wallet : 3/10 ( if u are oredi using RON95 & dun need the speed)

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AlvZz · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by Shark@Jan 16 2006, 10:49 PM
someone selling the bulb. is it cheap?

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....howtopic=105970

he is selling h4

but we are using h7

AlvZz · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by hockie69@Jan 16 2006, 11:00 PM
i did a FR on another forum.

repost again.

*it base on car usage but will show more improvement in bike.

-i metup with the reseller(the guy i buy from) during the SBF event.(happens to be de same guy).he is working with ANR in this forum....so either u guys get from ANR or i try to contact him lor.

*he mention the balance stock for the FP60 is very limited...new stock may come in after CNY.

------
had just complete my 8K KM trial of this mention product.

lets look at the "claim" as stated on the product sticker.

http://www.o2asis.biz/index.html

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6152/fp6016cn.th.jpg

Clean Fuel system
Cleans injectors
Remove carbon and varnish
Removes harmful water from fuels
Fuel stabilizer
Will not harm 02 sensor
Potentially increase MPG
Clean combustion camber
Redues harmful emissions
Reduces Black smoke
Less Pollution

Clean Fuel system - clean fuel? how to tell? lolz
Cleans injectors - injectors looks clean - but caltex petrol also have cleaning additive leh
Remove carbon and varnish - new car where find carbon?(if have also clear during N-S liao
Fuel stabilizer - winter storage? pumping RON92 still will PING engine hor
Will not harm 02 sensor - the OIL will not harm the sensor,it the carbon !
Potentially increase MPG - if it says "will"..then it snake oil liao.
Clean combustion camber - moden petrol all have additive to clean leh.
Redues harmful emissions - i dont see forest re-glow & i dun "breath" from a exhaust.
Reduces Black smoke - diasel engine lah.
Less Pollution - hmmm...forest taking over our city yet?

---------------------------------

driver's butt feeling

#1-mid-speed pick up feels better
#2-car able to pick up speed w/o gearbox changing to lower gear
#3- top speed remain unchange
#4- MPG aka FC remains unchange
#5- $2.64/tank topup adding FP60

---------------------------------

summery ;

#1- if you pump JB/MY petrol every tank-u need this FP60
#2-if you like fast pickup w/o paying the increase in FC(heavy foot no count).
#3- it feels like RON98 but using RON65 nia
#5- if u have TURBO,dun think u will be concern with petrol price.yeah?

---------------------------------

cost : S$33/32oz (package w LC-20)

--------------------------------

is it a snake oil? : NO.it did not claim on improve power nor FC.

is it "good staff to recommend" ? : SUBJECTIVE.if u like the "feeling" get it.if u road-hugger-need not get it.

---------------------------------

overall product : 8/10 ( it does what it claims )
driver's feeling : 10/10 (u can really feel the pickup is much smooth)
driver's wallet : 3/10 ( if u are oredi using RON95 & dun need the speed)

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wah hock

nice write up on fp60

hockie69 · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by mechwira@Jan 16 2006, 08:05 PM
i have never on any bike used any fuel additives before. i have always believed fuel additives to be 'snake oil'.

most of the product out there are.....eeeerrrrr "no comment".

as for this FP60.......it works.period

hmmm......maybe this friday fuel-run...i bring 3oz(good for 3 bike inclduing mine).

*1oz treat 20L of petrol

treat it as personal trial from me to fellow RRiders lor.(again...i always stress dun take my word for it...see/feel it for urself)

1oz=S$1.125

mechwira · January 16, 2006

i was considering the FP60 primarily because it claims to clean, and secondarily because of more power.

as much as i hate to admit it, as of rite now my bike is a 100% commuter bike. of coz i still wanna track, but even going track every few months, it'll still be 99% commuter bike. i guess its much better than bikes of yesteryear where carbon build-up and stuff realli spoil the bike eventually if ridden like this and not maintained properly. but even tho this bike not gonna 'spoil' ridden like a commuter, eventually i think the performance gonna be less than optimum.

special blend petrol like v-power will probably do the trick just as well, but the thing i realli dun like about v-power is that not only izzit more expensive, my mileage becomes worse. so the extra cost is two-fold. if FP60 can do the same job, on cheaper petrol, without increasing FC, worth trying out.

as for more power, i dun see how anyone might need more power from the 600RR if ridden on local roads. but its always bloody dam fun to have more power

hockie69 · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by CBR600RR03@Jan 16 2006, 08:40 PM
sori to all RRs riders...

wat do u guys think about the product???

*disclaimer - just my own feel/view on this slider matters.no need to argee to what i will type.

frame slider - my view - it a sacrificer(ok..wrong spelling)

*why call "sacrificer" leh? - it a product where u buy to install & IF an inccident happens(u know what).the slider job is to "replace" with the fairing & kanna "sacrifice" instead of the fairing itself.

A frame slider = S$100 +/-

A LHD/RHD full fairing = $500++ ?

*it easy to see that...the slider is "cheaper" to sacrifice then the original fairing.

How to be a "good" slider? - the metarial used MUST not be too hard till it refuse to be "sacrifice" when the time called.(if the material is so strong,the force will be transfer to the next weakest link-the JOINT.i rather the rubber slider kanna rub then replace the frame or demage result from the broken bolt)

extra bits on the "rubbing" part will just kanna tear away(but will it scratch the fairing?-gods knows)

-purely for "looks"....then go for anything.....ebay even have 1 that has led lights.lolz

hockie69 · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by sportb1ke@Jan 16 2006, 09:18 PM
can i change only the normal headlight bulb to philip, says crystal vision, without changing the other high beam bulb (i.e. high beam remains using stock bulb)?

-For RR, both high & low beam are in different "Case" & use different physical wire +connector.

so YES,u can change just 1 "side"(high or low) while keeping the other.it would not affect anything EXCEPT if u "on" both...then ur headlamp got two color lor.

u will not have problem with diamond/crystal vision.(other brand/model-no cfm)

mechwira · January 16, 2006

btw, today i fiddled wif my suspension settings according to the link Alvzz provided. i noe that one probably meant for ang moh weight, but wat the heck, got adjustable suspensions must play-play if not wat a waste.

provided u noe wat u doing of coz. i onli half-know wat i doing but wat the heck better than not knowing at all

i realized the link is for RR3/4, not RR5. coz the link says fork preload is "2 lines showing", and definitely i see superbike's and enjoy's bikes, can see where the fork is lowered, got line markings showing. but the inverted forks of the RR5, i turn and turn but no lines showing. cant even tell if its going down, i just based on faith and increased by 1 and half turns. the rest i set according to the link, but whether it applies to RR5 is anybody's guess. in general, everything is stiffer, rear pre-load same.

i dun claim to have found ideal settings, but i can say that stiffening the front forks either via preload or compression damping from stock settings is a step in the right direction. i turn tighter coz the forks dun dip so much when i initiate an aggressive turn into the corner, so it tracks the line better. i also tried aggressive braking with the stiffer forks and again they dip less, maintain better weight distribution and feels better. altho it felt like it might be more prone to a stoppie with the stiffer forks, but my aggressive brake was still not aggressive until i really go and stoppie.

hockie69 · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by mechwira@Jan 16 2006, 11:21 PM
as for more power, i dun see how anyone might need more power from the 600RR if ridden on local roads. but its always bloody dam fun to have more power

ok....maybe this example does not show well in bike context.

http://www.petrolwatch.com.sg/

SHELL V-Power : $1.701

SHELL RON95 : $1.543

Price different : $0.158

For RR4/5 - topup while bar flash - 13.5L (assume)

Cost for both grade of petrol (remember-owner manual stated run on RON95 or more-so actually can run on RON95-just not smooth nia)

SHELL V-power : $1.701 x 13.5L = S$22.96

SHELL RON95 : $1.543 x 13.5L = S$20.83

different of : S$2.13

*1oz of FP60 : S$1.125

*JB -V-power RON97-petrol : 13.5L = S$11.32 + FP60 = S$12.45 !

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IF use FP-60 mainly for save fuel? then no point lor.

But if want the bike to run more smooth by using a slight lower grade petrol - YES,this is the one...yet still cheaper then pumping SG V-power (hmmm......V-power + FP60...i wonder. ) !

always pump JB petrol?..unsure the petrol got "extra" additive anot?....then FP60 will help clean the fuel system lor(dun expect 100% cleaning result hor).

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hockie69 · January 16, 2006

20th, Jan - FRIDAY

PERLING/KULAI SUPPER

Meet at GP esso 9pm. Set off by 930pm.

anyone onz?

1. sportb1ke

2. A|vZz

3. Hock ( who leading? i dunno way to kulai)

AlvZz · January 16, 2006

if to kulai i got no problem going leading

but food there might have a small problem i scare...

unless someone know more food around that area..

AlvZz · January 16, 2006

if to kulai i got no problem going leading

but food there might have a small problem i scare...

unless someone know more food around that area..

Motrax33 · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by hockie69@Jan 16 2006, 11:23 PM

*disclaimer - just my own feel/view on this slider matters.need to argee to what i will type.

frame slider - my view - it a sacrificer(ok..wrong spelling)

*why call "sacrificer" leh? - it a product where u buy to install & IF an inccident happens(u know what).the slider job is to "replace" with the fairing & kanna "sacrifice" instead of the fairing itself.

A frame slider = S$100 +/-
A LHD/RHD full fairing = $500++ ?

*it easy to see that...the slider is "cheaper" to sacrifice then the original fairing.

How to be a "good" slider? - the metarial used MUST not be too hard till it refuse to be "sacrifice" when the time called.(if the material is so strong,the force will be transfer to the next weakest link-the JOINT.i rather the rubber slider kanna rub then replace the frame or demage result from the broken bolt)

extra bits on the "rubbing" part will just kanna tear away(but will it scratch the fairing?-gods knows)

-purely for "looks"....then go for anything.....ebay even have 1 that has led lights.lolz

wahahaha abit chim to understand... But i LIKE hahah. Just go to K&T install the frame sliders will be at S$20. I wont be there. But i will keep you inform if the barends are with me.

Motrax33

hockie69 · January 16, 2006

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Originally posted by Motrax33@Jan 17 2006, 02:44 AM
wahahaha abit chim to understand... But i LIKE hahah. Just go to K&T install the frame sliders will be at S$20. I wont be there. But i will keep you inform if the barends are with me.

Motrax33

just realise my own typo error...lolz

in short....get a slider to protect the fairing?.lolz

anyway...will be there to install...hope they dun screw up my 10 days old fairing.

sportb1ke · January 17, 2006

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Originally posted by AlvZz@Jan 17 2006, 12:29 AM
if to kulai i got no problem going leading
but food there might have a small problem i scare...
unless someone know more food around that area..

err...actually i dunno the abt food stalls or coffee shops at kulai also...

but perling should be no problem la...so near only

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