[Group] SUZUKI GSR 400/600

[EJ]

cruising in neutral doesn't help save fuel by the way, and also it's dangerous. use engine braking instead. safer.

 

how do i know? its fact, otherwise i wont be able to get fuel economy i'm getting. i did post my average fuel economy runs some pages back. maybe the change of sprockets did contribute to the fuel economy but dont forget, i have 2 full loaded side panniers all the time.

 

and cyrix,

why are you worried about bad fuel consumption? i read in the thread before fuel cost doesn't affect you at all?

[cyrix76]

cruising in neutral doesn't help save fuel by the way, and also it's dangerous. use engine braking instead. safer.

 

how do i know? its fact, otherwise i wont be able to get fuel economy i'm getting. i did post my average fuel economy runs some pages back. maybe the change of sprockets did contribute to the fuel economy but dont forget, i have 2 full loaded side panniers all the time.

 

and cyrix,

why are you worried about bad fuel consumption? i read in the thread before fuel cost doesn't affect you at all?

 

Yup, you're right. I am not concerned over FC... I prefer to enjoy my ride than to worry so much about FC... if my baby GSR love to drink fuel so much, then let her drink that much loh. As long as she can make me happy... I'll be happy to give her what she wants...

 

What I want say is that hard running-in has no connection to a better FC bike...

 

Cheers,

Cyrix

[flareon1982]

Actually i think it does in a way lah. More Fuel will be burn when engine break come in as the engine need to burn petrol when it slows down. When i mean neutral i mean clutch in all the way. That way its burning fuel as what u warm up the bike. EJ is right. FC does not matters as it is something that u cannot compromise much as compare to style of riding. You want ride your style, thats the FC that u will get. Impossible to get your riding style, say at 100km/h, with someone who rides at 60km/h FC. With that said. Peace to all.

 

Anyone going to the 3NCR this year?

[kaozie]

if you are really so concern about FC, then you really need to buy a Honda Cub70... if not, then take Bus, MRT, Walk

[ivanmania_10]

Hi guys, i got question regards to bike parts. Lets say if i'm gonna take away the grip behind at the pillion seat. is there parts to cover the gap? if someone knows can post the link or pic? thanks alot

[skateboy]

I did hard run in as well ... but my FC is totally opposite than yours.... I have average of 17km/litre... last check for FC is 206.6(distance travelled)/12.44(fuel last pumped)=16.61(bad fuel consumption )

 

I guess it's the riding habit that contribute to the FC ... for example, I brake alot becos I travel at faster speed than usual... hence at traffic stops, I have to apply brake harder. In theory, if I can ease off my throttle and cruise with neutral, maybe I can save up little by little of fuel ... but I have tried... habits are hard to remove

 

Cyrix

that explains y ur fc is high. slow down pick up slow down pick up will burn more fuel then usual. mayb ease the throttle abit might help. n of cos, everytime rush all the way to the front, u will c another red light so just relax at traffic stops. expressway, can open.

 

 

Actually i think it does in a way lah. More Fuel will be burn when engine break come in as the engine need to burn petrol when it slows down. When i mean neutral i mean clutch in all the way. That way its burning fuel as what u warm up the bike. EJ is right. FC does not matters as it is something that u cannot compromise much as compare to style of riding. You want ride your style, thats the FC that u will get. Impossible to get your riding style, say at 100km/h, with someone who rides at 60km/h FC. With that said. Peace to all.

 

Anyone going to the 3NCR this year?

 

engine break will not consume more petrol. its as good as idling. engine brake only operates when u close throttle fully. abit of throttling will b considered power transmitted. yes, the engine rpm is higher than idling bcos the engine n final drive is still engaged.

 

imagine this. speed up ur bike, close throttle n release right hand from throttle, ride with only left hand controlling the steering. so now u r experiencing engine brake. now clutch in, u will experience free revolution. there is difference in rpm between engine brake n free gear BUT u didn't throttle rite? so how will engine braking consume more fuel compared to free gear?

 

 

 

Hi guys, i got question regards to bike parts. Lets say if i'm gonna take away the grip behind at the pillion seat. is there parts to cover the gap? if someone knows can post the link or pic? thanks alot

so far dun have. u can either use the original to fabricate a non handle one, or use the original, cut away the handle n do a nice finishing.

[cyrix76]

Hi guys, i got question regards to bike parts. Lets say if i'm gonna take away the grip behind at the pillion seat. is there parts to cover the gap? if someone knows can post the link or pic? thanks alot

 

Actually there are ... but not found in Singapore... for example below:

http://www.gsr600.co.uk/images/GSR_SADDLE_SHUTTER_621.jpg

from http://www.gsr600.co.uk/

It is called "Saddle Shutters for removing Grab Rail. £22.00 plain £31.99 painted."

 

Hey guys upon searching for Suzuki parts ... I saw this

http://www.suzukigsr600s.co.uk/

Looks like a new GSR .... or maybe I am wronged...

 

 

Cyrix

[dinie]

i'm sorry skateboy.. i have to disagree with you regarding engine braking not using more fuel.. IMO as long as the RPMs are still up, u are still using fuel to continue combustion. the higher the RPMs, the more fuel combusted, although not as much fuel when the throttle is opened at the same RPM. im not really sure about putting this into context of an engine using fuel injection, but as for carburetor-ed engines, as long as the engine is running, the venturi will keep sucking fuel. the higher the RPMs, the stronger the vacumn, the more fuel sucked in. clutching in would theoretically put the RPMs at idle as if u werent moving as the engine is not connected to the drivetrain thus consuming minimal amount of fuel.

 

taken from wikipedia

Disadvantages

By dramatically increasing engine RPM, it causes additional fuel consumption, even through a fully released throttle, in cars without overrun fuel shutoffs.

 

please don't get angry at me.. its just a healthy debate and im open to any discussion..

[AhGui]

Just my 2 cents,

 

Studying automotive has told me something... as long as ur engine is runnning, u are burning fuel... that's it..

[dinie]

ah gui! where telah u go to?

[Iwanmebike]

various condition accounts to improving fuel economy, on hot and dry weather, i can only squeeze as much as 340km b4 reserve but for cool weather ie: at night or rainy days especially duing rainy season @ oct to dec period, i can manage to get 345 - 350km max b4 reserve. maybe due to the fact i ride at constantly 70 - 90kph on wet road and 100 - 120kph on dry road condition.

[dinie]

anyways i jus pumped to the manufacturer recommended 250kPa for the front and 290kPa for the back. hopefully my tires dun burst and i get much better FC.

[Iwanmebike]

Few tips to share wif u guys when u refuel ur bike.

 

1) Always refuel when the weather is cool ie: at night or early in the morning as gasoline is denser and evapourate less quickly when temperature is lower. therefore u may get 95% or more of 1 litre of fuel, if u refuel in the noon when temperature is warm, gasoline is less dense and evapourate more quickly, maybe u will only get 90% or less of 1 litre of fuel.

 

2) refuel slowly ie: squeeze 1/4 to 1/2 trigger. This allow gasoline to evaporate less and also remove any pockets of trap air inside ur bike tank. u notice when ever u fill up to the brim, the gasoline level always dropped a little? slowly fill up to the brim and allow it to settle again and repeate this process until the tank cannot hold anymore, then u are done.

 

Go ahead an try the above method and post ur milage here again so that we all can see the difference before and after... cheers

[finalsurprise]

Hi guys, i got question regards to bike parts. Lets say if i'm gonna take away the grip behind at the pillion seat. is there parts to cover the gap? if someone knows can post the link or pic? thanks alot

 

banditmania has the cover. maybe if ur interested we can order together

[benson]

Hi guys, used to ride bike few yrs back, den drove for 4yrs. Now tot of gettin a class 2a bike n eithe revo or gsr.

Aft consideration, gsr seems to be more appealing to me.

So, I'm heading to the motordiams for quotes for new gsr soon....

I wan reliable n reputable shops that deal wid gsr. Can list out those I missed?

 

1- Mah Mtr

2- Bike productions

3- Looi's mtr

4- Asphoon

5- GHC?? tot only got gsr600?

6-???

[devil-suzy]

Hi guys, used to ride bike few yrs back, den drove for 4yrs. Now tot of gettin a class 2a bike n eithe revo or gsr.

Aft consideration, gsr seems to be more appealing to me.

So, I'm heading to the motordiams for quotes for new gsr soon....

I wan reliable n reputable shops that deal wid gsr. Can list out those I missed?

 

1- Mah Mtr

2- Bike productions

3- Looi's mtr

4- Asphoon

5- GHC?? tot only got gsr600?

6-???

 

agent only got 600cc if im not wrong...

400cc is parallel import...

 

n eh...

bike production is a reputable shop???

infamous u mean???

[IvikaRazI]

Hi guys, used to ride bike few yrs back, den drove for 4yrs. Now tot of gettin a class 2a bike n eithe revo or gsr.

Aft consideration, gsr seems to be more appealing to me.

So, I'm heading to the motordiams for quotes for new gsr soon....

I wan reliable n reputable shops that deal wid gsr. Can list out those I missed?

 

1- Mah Mtr

2- Bike productions

3- Looi's mtr

4- Asphoon

5- GHC?? tot only got gsr600?

6-???

 

What do you mean by reliable and reputable shops? For most of us, we try to get the best deal from a shop. Repair and maintenance done elsewhere. Usually to your most trusted mech or bikeshop.

 

Anyway 400cc are all parallel imported, juz like Devil says (A beut!) hahahah.

[flareon1982]

Ya parallel import are the 400cc. Get the official REVO of the 400cc class with no issue or whatsoever problem. Parrallel import harder to get parts. GHC also dun want to sell u the 600cc parts even if they are the same. Have to lie to them say urs is a 600cc. Why bother with such stress in the future. Get a REVO. Upz upz upz.

[Lister]

if you are really so concern about FC, then you really need to buy a Honda Cub70... if not, then take Bus, MRT, Walk

 

 

Change to CNG la better, or battery operated, water/air driven??

[skateboy]

i'm sorry skateboy.. i have to disagree with you regarding engine braking not using more fuel.. IMO as long as the RPMs are still up, u are still using fuel to continue combustion. the higher the RPMs, the more fuel combusted, although not as much fuel when the throttle is opened at the same RPM. im not really sure about putting this into context of an engine using fuel injection, but as for carburetor-ed engines, as long as the engine is running, the venturi will keep sucking fuel. the higher the RPMs, the stronger the vacumn, the more fuel sucked in. clutching in would theoretically put the RPMs at idle as if u werent moving as the engine is not connected to the drivetrain thus consuming minimal amount of fuel.

 

taken from wikipedia

Disadvantages

By dramatically increasing engine RPM, it causes additional fuel consumption, even through a fully released throttle, in cars without overrun fuel shutoffs.

 

please don't get angry at me.. its just a healthy debate and im open to any discussion..

if there is venturi effect, u r right. if there is no venturi effect, u r wrong. n the thing now is we cannot confirm if there is really venturi effect.

 

i'm open to healthy debate. but this one wun b as long as the one i had with wildcard.

 

Just my 2 cents,

 

Studying automotive has told me something... as long as ur engine is runnning, u are burning fuel... that's it..

we all know fuel is burning. now we r discussing how much.

 

various condition accounts to improving fuel economy, on hot and dry weather, i can only squeeze as much as 340km b4 reserve but for cool weather ie: at night or rainy days especially duing rainy season @ oct to dec period, i can manage to get 345 - 350km max b4 reserve. maybe due to the fact i ride at constantly 70 - 90kph on wet road and 100 - 120kph on dry road condition.

wah. ur riding style varies from road n weather conditions ah? shouldn't it b all the same?

 

anyways i jus pumped to the manufacturer recommended 250kPa for the front and 290kPa for the back. hopefully my tires dun burst and i get much better FC.

at that pressure, ur tires wun burst. no worries about that. do take note that the more air u pump in, the less grip u have with ur tires. less air pumped in, more grip. this is due to the heating up of the tyre.

[skateboy]

Hi guys, used to ride bike few yrs back, den drove for 4yrs. Now tot of gettin a class 2a bike n eithe revo or gsr.

Aft consideration, gsr seems to be more appealing to me.

So, I'm heading to the motordiams for quotes for new gsr soon....

I wan reliable n reputable shops that deal wid gsr. Can list out those I missed?

 

1- Mah Mtr

2- Bike productions

3- Looi's mtr

4- Asphoon

5- GHC?? tot only got gsr600?

6-???

we would strongly recommand u revo. its a very good bike.

 

Ya parallel import are the 400cc. Get the official REVO of the 400cc class with no issue or whatsoever problem. Parrallel import harder to get parts. GHC also dun want to sell u the 600cc parts even if they are the same. Have to lie to them say urs is a 600cc. Why bother with such stress in the future. Get a REVO. Upz upz upz.

its guan hoe. not guan hoe cheong.

[flareon1982]

well that what he type so i just copy loh. Can mean Guan Hoe Company mah.

[ivanmania_10]

banditmania has the cover. maybe if ur interested we can order together

 

Well.. have you order from that website before?

[sikonesis]

do take note that the more air u pump in, the less grip u have with ur tires. less air pumped in, more grip. this is due to the heating up of the tyre.

 

huh?

seriously.

[flareon1982]

Anyone got any idea where to get Hella Fog lights? Will it drain a battery if one for the journey say from singapore to Krabi?