[Group] SBF Yamaha Spark Z & X

[gunshead]

i warn

 

ignore yamaha

go for suzuki smash or suzuki raider or suzuki katana

 

ignore wave and spark z

 

one day u will thank me

[dying]

haha. too late lah i guess. i'm already in the process of taking it out. actually, i don't mind the performance. i'm just intending to make it a budget, transport bike. so thats why, i asked anything special i should take note of, on this bike. like frequency of servicing, eo change. anything i should be aware of. to pay special attention to.

 

thanks in advance.

[gunshead]

only use 20w-50 or 20w-40 or 15w-50 balck oil viscosity

 

do not use anything other then that

 

yamaha crankshaft bearing and clutch housing rubber damping cannot last long

the final mileage it can last is 55,000km

 

so it need thick oil to protect the bearing.

 

yamaha bearing faulty in gearbox is well known

long term use has problems:angry:

[chipNdaLe]

hey guys n gals...

 

there's a meet-up this saturday 29/03/08 at KKFC (Kallang KFC) @ 2030hrs..

Meet-up with the scooters and the S4 community members..

Hoping that u guys and gals can make it for the meet-up..

So tat we can get to know each other.

 

Who noes 1 day we may even plan to do a charity ride..

 

So pls put down ur nick at the cub outing thread if you are keen to join..

 

Thanks

[gunshead]

Abnormal Engine Noise:

 

Knocking:

 

IC igniter trouble

Carbon built up in combustion chamber

Fuel poor quality or incorrect

Spark plug incorrect

Overheating

 

 

Piston slap:

 

Cylinder/piston clearance excessive

Cylinder, piston worn

Connecting rod bent

Piston pin, piston holes worn

 

 

Valve noise:

 

Engine not sufficiently warmed up after lash adjuster installation

Hydraulic lash adjuster damaged (worn, seizure, or spring broken)

Air in hydraulic lash adjuster

Metal chips or dust dammed in hydraulic lash adjuster

Engine operated in red zone

Valve spring broken or weak

Camshaft bearing worn

 

 

Other noise:

 

Connecting rod small end clearance excessive

Connecting rod big end clearance excessive

Piston ring worn, broken or stuck

Piston seizure, damage

Cylinder head gasket leaking

Exhaust pipe leaking at cylinder head connection

Crankshaft run out excessive

Engine mounts loose

Crankshaft bearing worn

Primary gear worn or chipped

Camshaft chain tensioner trouble

Upper or lower tension spring trouble

Camshaft chain, sprocket, guide worn

Air suction valve damaged

Balancer gear worn or chipped

Balancer shaft position maladjusted

Balancer bearing worn

Balancer coupling rubber damper damaged

Oil pump chain, sprocket worn

 

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Poor Running at Low Speed:

 

Spark weak:

Battery voltage low

Spark plug dirty, broken, or maladjusted

Spark plug cap or high tension wiring trouble

Spark plug cap shorted or not in good contact

Spark plug incorrect

igniter trouble

Pickup coil trouble

Ignition coil trouble

 

 

Fuel/air mixture incorrect:

 

Pilot screw maladjusted

Pilot jet, or air passage clogged

Air bleed pipe, bleed holes clogged

Pilot passage clogged

Air cleaner clogged, poorly sealed or missing

Starter plunger stuck open

Fuel level in carburetor float chamber too high or too low

Fuel tank air vent obstructed

Carburetor holder loose

Surge tank duct loose

 

 

Compression low:

 

Spark plug loose

Cylinder head not sufficiently tightened down

Cylinder, piston worn

Piston ring bad (worn, weak, broken, or sticking)

Piston ring/land clearance excessive

Cylinder head gasket damaged

Cylinder head warped

Engine not sufficiently warmed up after lash adjuster installation

Valve spring broken or weak

Valve not seating properly (valve bent, worn, or carbon accumulation on the seating surface)

Hydraulic lash adjuster damaged (worn, seizure, or spring broken)

Hydraulic lash adjuster oil passage clogged

 

 

Backfiring when decelerating:

 

Vacuum switch valve broken

Air suction valve trouble

Coasting enricher trouble

[gunshead]

Guys,

 

I just did overhaul on my bike.

 

Date: 28 April 2008

Shop: Seng Fong Motor Boring Trading, Jalan Larkin, Johor Bahru

 

Location; No. 12-A jalan Larkin, 80200 JB

tel: 07 2243670, 017-7726720

[gunshead]

Meter: 70463

Date: 28 April 2008

Shop: Seng Fong Motor Boring Trading, Jalan Larkin, Johor Bahru

Total: RM360

Time: 10:10am – 3pm

 

Overhaul engine due to Yamaha defect on crankshaft bearing – design error, not enough ‘tembaga’ thickness on crankshaft.

 

Suggestion:

Use 20w-40 engine oil

The best is Shell advance S4T

Synthetic oils are good for piston and piston rings

For gearbox protection ad bearings, suggested on thicker oil

Furthermore, motorcycle and car engine oil has different purpose

Car engine and gearbox oil are different

 

Solution:

Lay crankshaft rod and welding to add more ‘tembaga’

Changed 2 bearing of crankshaft (left and right hand side)

Gasket one whole set

Timing chain rod – guide stopper 2 pieces. Comes in a Pasir

Exhaust pipe inner gasket silencer

Front fork oil change

Labour charges

 

Extra:

 

Did ‘double side tape’ layout for anti vibration on fairings and cowlings.

Exhaust pipe paint high temperature black paint

Changed air filter

Chain drive sprayed Putoline GP1 chain jelly

Adjusted kick starter position for shorter and smoother kicking

Oil lubricant into throttle cable and inside throttle for smoothness

 

Changed engine oil - for 200km running to clean and wash out all the residue.

[gunshead]

continue with more pictures

[gunshead]

I received email from Shell Malaysia

answering my question on shell advance s4t oil

 

below i copy , paste

 

Hi Mr.Gxxxxxx,

 

Good Morning...

 

Thank you for taking the time to write in to us.With regards to

your earlier enquiry regarding our Shell Lubricant,especially on the

qualities of the Shell Advance S4T,it is an oil is designed to

withstand and remove the heat generated in the motorcycle engine.

 

The temperature is not an indication of the heat generated. As a

guide, the maximum temperature the oil can withstand is indicated by

the flash point, which is about 200 deg C.

 

To prevent imitation, please purchase from our approved Shell outlets

only. If the you have come across suspected imitation products,

please report to us the location & address if possible of the outlet

for further investigation.

[gunshead]

Guys,

 

use malaysian or spore SHELL petrol unleaded

super suitable for yamaha lagenda / spark z

 

3 years ago , i tested all petrol, caltex was suitable but now year 2008 May, Shell green unleaded petrol is the best

 

it is really fuel economy

[Devol_707]

new at this.... need some help guyz.. am riding spark z but can i change to spark x cover set???....

[gunshead]

the head cover and tail cover cannot be changed to spark x

sorry:cry:

[nk3371]

Lastest update on my Lagenda 110...

 

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/nk3371/Lagenda15.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/nk3371/Lagenda13.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/nk3371/Lagenda16.jpg

 

58.75mm piston...(above it is a 53mm piston)

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/nk3371/piston2.jpg

 

BMPower exhaust manifold...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/nk3371/Manifold-1.jpg

 

Racing Bee spark plug...

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p257/nk3371/17052008558.jpg

 

 

Engine Specs:

 

- 58.75mm piston with racing block sleeve 62mm.

- Ported & polished header.

- Ride It Thailand racing camshaft.

- Mikuni 26mm carburetor.(originally for TS125)

- FCCi clutch plate.

- UMA Racing clutch springs.

- Faito Racing auto clutch damper assy.

- Custom made exhaust system.(modif ekzoz asal)

- CDi unit dari Yamaha Ego(Mio).(original Lagenda got rev limiter)

- Skimmed gearbox.

 

Luaran:

 

- Standard Yamaha Lagenda 110 bodypart & color scheme.

- Com* 1.4x17 silver alloy rims.

- SYScast hi-polish hubs.

- lowered front fork by an inch.

- 15/28 MCS sprocekt set and Osaki 415X chain.

 

Wanna hear my engine sounds...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Bq1NG51Xw

[seizai]

Engine Specs:

 

- 58.75mm piston with racing block sleeve 62mm.

- Ported & polished header.

- Ride It Thailand racing camshaft.

- Mikuni 26mm carburetor.(originally for TS125)

- FCCi clutch plate.

- UMA Racing clutch springs.

- Faito Racing auto clutch damper assy.

- Custom made exhaust system.(modif ekzoz asal)

- CDi unit dari Yamaha Ego(Mio).(original Lagenda got rev limiter)

- Skimmed gearbox.

 

 

lagenda CDI got limiter? no wonder i can't go over 100km/h

 

which ver of Ego cdi u using?

[nk3371]

 

lagenda CDI got limiter? no wonder i can't go over 100km/h

 

which ver of Ego cdi u using?

 

Earlier 110 model got no limiter...(2003/2004)

Lagenda 100 also got no limiter...

 

I use 2005 Yamaha Ego CDi...

[seizai]

mine was lagendaZ

 

can gv me the part model no?

[qianzhao]

MAKE : YAMAHA

MODEL : SPARK X 110cc

COE : OCT 2015

Mileage : less than 20k (very low for a 2 year plus bike)

Accessories : GIVI BOX E33 point ( with light)

Front : disc brake

Rear : drum brake

Max speed : 120km/hr ( tried once only)

 

Bike in very very new condition! Ride by my dad. in total stock condition! DAD ride it to and from work only. my dad take great care of the bike!

 

PRICE : $1700 (FIXED) PM me if interested.

[gunshead]

hi all,

 

17/6/08

Johor Bahru

 

meter bike mileage 74142

 

changed o-ring on upper and lower block big nut

changed inside inner o-ring

 

two pieces cost RM3

 

later he washed with petrol the block and asked to monitor if any oil leaking.

[gunshead]

Don't go JB

 

yesterday , I queued from BKE till woodlands customs

9:40pm till 11:40pm

 

after 2 hours then exit customs checkpoint

 

I poured petrol at shell RM2.70 per litre

[Smack76]

hi everyone .

jus change my air filter today.brought from autocycle

and also change mi plug to denso iridium

engine really feel smoother.pickup abit faster

i hav to thanks bro gunshead for the recom!!

 

nxt stop maybe revtec..............any feedback?

 

Hi....wanna ask, if the engine still running in, can we use denso plug?

[gunshead]

brand new engine , can use denso iridium spark plug

plug will not spoilt any engine whether new stock or overhauled or old engine

[gunshead]

29/5/08 meter 73127 changed shell advanced 4T RM13

24/6/08 meter 74700 changed shell advanced 4T RM13

 

so approximately I change engine oil for yamaha spark z at

1500km

[gunshead]

smack76,

 

what is revtec?

 

why don't we meet up for kopi?

 

are u using yamaha spark Z 110cc ?

 

This saturday we can meet at 12 midnight and then go to JB for supper +dinner

[gunshead]

The Bike shop that I do in JB town

 

see the card and map

 

the map i drew for a sporean friend who wanted to do his yamaha RXZ

[gunshead]

Meter: 75038

Date: 28 June 2008

Shop: Seng Fong Motor Boring Trading, Jalan Larkin, Johor Bahru

Total: RM130

 

Yamaha Spark Z 110cc Registered December 2004

 

Saturday Morning went to spare part dealer

 

Pusat Perkhidmatan Motor Wahin

94, Jalan Perwira Satu,

Taman Ungku, Taman Aminah,

81300 Skudai, Johor.

Tel: 07-557 3918

 

Bought

 

1. Heavy Duty Chain Lube ; Brand => RevOil = RM 7

 

2. One complete drive chain set

 

Model: Yamaha Lagenda 110

Front sprocket: 15T steel (special Heat Treatment for Racing )

Rear Sprocket: 36T steel

Drive Chain : RK 428SB X 104L Hard NonSeal Chain

 

These items comes in a box set = RM48

 

For original RK-M products with chain kit set , you may contact the manufacturer at http://www.kilangrantai.com

 

Then went to my regular mechanic shop , Seng Fong Motor Trading.

 

Paid service charge fixing chain + sprocket = RM10

 

Changed

 

1. Rear tyre – MAXXIS 80/90-17 Tubeless = RM 80

http://www.maxxis.com.my

 

2. Yasaki rear brake shoe = RM 15

 

Free of charge

 

Full Flush DOT4 brake fluid. Fill in Mintye Dot 4 fluid

 

 

Bought hand glove = RM25 => superb soft ,nice built quality and elegant design.