Raizin Voltage Stabilizers..

[Guest @h_püi™]

basically is all cap connect in parallel with the +ve and -Ve terminal.. no diagram as i buy the component and solder in straight away.. but then i not sure whether it work.. cos so far after connect, no short or cap burn with some rev.. but haven;t use it for long journey.. anyway i also connected a LED to monitor my VS working condition..

 

anyway i will connect soon for a permenent connection.. if really work.. tthen i will redesign it and post the diagram here.. cos the pototype one is s**K hahaha..

 

just wanna test test only

[loufu]

basically is all cap connect in parallel with the +ve and -Ve terminal.. no diagram as i buy the component and solder in straight away.. but then i not sure whether it work.. cos so far after connect, no short or cap burn with some rev.. but haven;t use it for long journey.. anyway i also connected a LED to monitor my VS working condition..

 

anyway i will connect soon for a permenent connection.. if really work.. tthen i will redesign it and post the diagram here.. cos the pototype one is s**K hahaha..

 

just wanna test test only

 

wat is the value of the cap?? mayb i DIY 1 n help to do a test on it too.. at least 1 more results for reference..

[Arcfire]

Yah i also wanted to test it out.... but dunno the capacitance and resistance that i need......

[Guest @h_püi™]

i using 4 X 16V 10000uF electrolytic cap and 5 X 25V 100nF ceramic cap.. with a fuse holder and a 5A fast blown fuse.. for blocking incase high current pass thru the cap and cost it to burn. no resistor is used in this project

 

 

Voltage allowance of the capacitor is depend on your bike voltage..

 

 

P/S: This Project setup has not declared as a successful project as it still under testing phase. Try or Test at your own risk.. not my fault if it cause your bike to malfunction

[loufu]

i using 4 X 16V 10000uF electrolytic cap and 5 X 25V 100nF ceramic cap.. with a fuse holder and a 5A fast blown fuse.. for blocking incase high current pass thru the cap and cost it to burn. no resistor is used in this project

 

 

Voltage allowance of the capacitor is depend on your bike voltage..

 

 

P/S: This Project setup has not declared as a successful project as it still under testing phase. Try or Test at your own risk.. not my fault if it cause your bike to malfunction

 

ok thx.. let me go search ard the lab.. see got the abv mention cap anot...

[quizesilver]

i using 4 X 16V 10000uF electrolytic cap and 5 X 25V 100nF ceramic cap.. with a fuse holder and a 5A fast blown fuse.. for blocking incase high current pass thru the cap and cost it to burn. no resistor is used in this project

 

 

Voltage allowance of the capacitor is depend on your bike voltage..

 

 

P/S: This Project setup has not declared as a successful project as it still under testing phase. Try or Test at your own risk.. not my fault if it cause your bike to malfunction

 

just a tinkle

use all 25V using 105deg.

 

cheers

[Guest @h_püi™]

ok thx.. let me go search ard the lab.. see got the abv mention cap anot...

 

LAB? you mean sch lab? for your info.. i dun think sch lab have 10000uF or 10mF... cos is too huge in value... and eletrocyle cap will be also hard to find in sch lab .. maybe..

[Guest @h_püi™]

just a tinkle

use all 25V using 105deg.

 

cheers

 

bro, i know you did your own VS.. but can i check whether yours got the same capabilties as the actual VS produced?

like reduce engine vibration, improve FC etc etc

[stsoh]

this diy vs is simple n easy to made.

all capacitors in pic r 25v 105 deg C.

u might want to change it to 12v for m/c 12v electrical system.

reduce fuse to 10A instead of 20A.

 

use it at your own risk.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34632&d=1184940503/DIY_VoltageStabilizer.jpg

[quizesilver]

bro, i know you did your own VS.. but can i check whether yours got the same capabilties as the actual VS produced?

like reduce engine vibration, improve FC etc etc

 

yes... but then ppl will be saying it is all bull * * * * thus no point saying.

it would best with grounding. and my VS work to be able to store at least 11.5V.

[Guest @h_püi™]

yes... but then ppl will be saying it is all bull * * * * thus no point saying.

it would best with grounding. and my VS work to be able to store at least 11.5V.

 

ok ok thanks... you from electronic field also?

[razin]

how much this thing DIY cost? I bought mine at USD 20+ with shipping

[Guest @h_püi™]

how much this thing DIY cost? I bought mine at USD 20+ with shipping

 

can show the website that you brought your VS with shipping include only US 20+ cos sad to say.. this DIY is about $20 ba.. although is cheaper then the raizin but if your also can achieve that raizin can do .. then might as well get from where you get..

 

can share share the website?

[quizesilver]

ok ok thanks... you from electronic field also?

 

electrical engineer

[Guest @h_püi™]

electrical engineer

 

then mind to share your DIY VS?

[Nicholas Chan]

Pardon me, but you sound like a mindwashed MLM or Ponzi (ie. Sunshine Empire) individual who is unable to accept a simple question of basing findings on facts, derived from quantifiable and measurable means.

 

If plugging in some items can "magically" improve things without any scientific basis, please do so.

 

PS. I believe the "fact finder" guys like me and Strong Eagle have already even DEFINED what is the voltage stabilizer (it's a capacitor) and the "not battery" (which also is nothing more than a capacitor), and I have played and tried both items from experimenting as I was passed some from some other bikers in this forum. So please, don't assume we didn't "make the move"

 

PPS. Real 10 - 20 years ago? What I was asking was on the fundamentals of physics, electricity and engine combustion, not some mumbo jumbo. Just because your imaginary words cannot hold water in facts and science doesn't mean I am not free to state facts as they are.

 

some ppl juz only wan to stay like a leech depending on other saying but dun dare to make the OWN move in trying out new thing.

 

all that is said maybe u can say that it is real 10-20yrs back... but over years of improvement and discovery it have and bound to see thus gadget that is able to help.

 

dun belive go and try. for wat juz sit here and talk so much.

and juz dun dare to try and yet post any kind of negative comment on ppl add on. juz so wonder for wat and why? cheers

[rykros]

woah, its like a warfront out here... hmmm, im a electrical trained person too... i used revtec b4 on a 3 years old bike... and it did make a different with and without... an increase in throttle respond... abt batt wise life span, im not sure cuz i din change my battery since i bought the bike until i sold it 2 yrs later... i know inside are a bunch of capacitors cuz tats the way to remove ripples in the current flow... but for a electronic device like the cdi, will it work at maximum capabilities if there are ripples in the current?? im not so sure abt this cuz not well exposed to electronic stuffs...

 

i taut revtec is to give smooth throttle response?? din know abt the increase in mileage... well i din see in mine cuz im a 110-140 kind of a expressway user...

 

but from wart i see, grounding do works on old bikes... cuz certain connections is rusty therefore it wun be a good connection... unless u change your whole wire harness, den no need grounding... juz my 2c worth of opinions... im here to learn too... learnt alot from the past 3 pages... cheers bros...

 

ps. dun close this thread... even if it looks like flaming but it contains alot of info n facts if read properly...

[Nicholas Chan]

As a electrical trained personnel, you should be aware that capacitors inject harmonics in the 3rd, 5th and 7th, and that these injections will adversely affect non-liner load electronics load; to what extent it would depend on the sensitivity of the entire circuit. I had my fair share of fixing up datacentre and semiconductor factory related power quality projects around the region.

 

Capacitors do not "remove" ripples, they compensate for a lagging current (power factor correction) Capacitors are used in power supplies where they smooth the output of a full or half wave rectifier, although I do not see how an accumulator (battery) functions less efficiently in such a circuit.

 

I do not disagree that grounding helps with older bikes, particularly those with badly maintained electrical cabling; I believe most bike electrical problems can be fixed with an overhauled electrical cabling job.

 

woah, its like a warfront out here... hmmm, im a electrical trained person too... i used revtec b4 on a 3 years old bike... and it did make a different with and without... an increase in throttle respond... abt batt wise life span, im not sure cuz i din change my battery since i bought the bike until i sold it 2 yrs later... i know inside are a bunch of capacitors cuz tats the way to remove ripples in the current flow... but for a electronic device like the cdi, will it work at maximum capabilities if there are ripples in the current?? im not so sure abt this cuz not well exposed to electronic stuffs...

 

i taut revtec is to give smooth throttle response?? din know abt the increase in mileage... well i din see in mine cuz im a 110-140 kind of a expressway user...

 

but from wart i see, grounding do works on old bikes... cuz certain connections is rusty therefore it wun be a good connection... unless u change your whole wire harness, den no need grounding... juz my 2c worth of opinions... im here to learn too... learnt alot from the past 3 pages... cheers bros...

 

ps. dun close this thread... even if it looks like flaming but it contains alot of info n facts if read properly...

[quizesilver]

Pardon me, but you sound like a mindwashed MLM or Ponzi (ie. Sunshine Empire) individual who is unable to accept a simple question of basing findings on facts, derived from quantifiable and measurable means.

 

If plugging in some items can "magically" improve things without any scientific basis, please do so.

 

PS. I believe the "fact finder" guys like me and Strong Eagle have already even DEFINED what is the voltage stabilizer (it's a capacitor) and the "not battery" (which also is nothing more than a capacitor), and I have played and tried both items from experimenting as I was passed some from some other bikers in this forum. So please, don't assume we didn't "make the move"

 

PPS. Real 10 - 20 years ago? What I was asking was on the fundamentals of physics, electricity and engine combustion, not some mumbo jumbo. Just because your imaginary words cannot hold water in facts and science doesn't mean I am not free to state facts as they are.

 

i am juz makin a general statement and i am in no mean of wanting to argue or wat. this kind of qns, strong eagle have been debating ever since 1 yr back... i already know thus i am not going to qns or make any kind of comments on that. and to you since u already can say some of the basic term of electrical engineering. but do get your fact right.

 

with juz a basic internet search, you will know wat a capacitor will do and you are make it all confuse...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor

 

http://74.6.146.244/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&fr=slv1-adbe&p=capacitor+and+harmonics+&u=www.powerdesigners.com/InfoWeb/design_center/Design_Tips/Harmonics/Harmonics.shtm&w=capacitor+harmonics+harmonic&d=RyncSOljPGYM&icp=1&.intl=sg

 

pity pity that i think you are also being "brain washed"

 

ps:/ i hold a professional job and do not require MLM as i don't DO sales.

so i would greatly appreciate if you do noe ASS U ME.

[Strong Eagle]

bro, i know you did your own VS.. but can i check whether yours got the same capabilties as the actual VS produced?

like reduce engine vibration, improve FC etc etc

 

Just note that there is no hard evidence for any of the claims made by these products. It is all anecdotal, and some of the claims posted by users of the products are simply impossible.

[rykros]

so if thats the case, shldnt it be the voltage stabilser be installed at the rectifier instead? wat do you think? ive never measured using a osciloscope (i forgot how to spell, hehe) at the rectifier output. anyone has?? are there ripples or distortion big enuf to affect the bike? i dun mind being the lab rat, hehehe... but i dun hve the neccessary equipments...

 

and guys, cmon chill.... we r here to discuss n share our views...

cheers :thumb:

 

 

As a electrical trained personnel, you should be aware that capacitors inject harmonics in the 3rd, 5th and 7th, and that these injections will adversely affect non-liner load electronics load; to what extent it would depend on the sensitivity of the entire circuit. I had my fair share of fixing up datacentre and semiconductor factory related power quality projects around the region.

 

Capacitors do not "remove" ripples, they compensate for a lagging current (power factor correction) Capacitors are used in power supplies where they smooth the output of a full or half wave rectifier, although I do not see how an accumulator (battery) functions less efficiently in such a circuit.

 

I do not disagree that grounding helps with older bikes, particularly those with badly maintained electrical cabling; I believe most bike electrical problems can be fixed with an overhauled electrical cabling job.

[razin]

can show the website that you brought your VS with shipping include only US 20+ cos sad to say.. this DIY is about $20 ba.. although is cheaper then the raizin but if your also can achieve that raizin can do .. then might as well get from where you get..

 

can share share the website?

 

I bought the bac-pac on ebay...

 

And in term of voltage fluctuation i.e. the strength of head light on my 30 years old bike which follows the engine speed at lower RPM, it does improve significantly...

[Nicholas Chan]

If you claim to be making a general statement without any knowledge or basis of what you are talking about, is that not tantamount to saying nothing to add to the conversation at all?

 

If I am confused, AND if reading Wikipedia makes you an expert, I would be a PhD in Electrical Engineering already. I would also guess that my work experience in dealing with Power Quality and Energy Conservation (Saving) and education in the electrical field over the years would be "confused" in comparison with your simple reference to Wikipedia?

 

How so am I brainwashed? By doing actual measured tests on the subject matter? By adopting a facts-based approach? By ensuring that all claims are substantiated?

 

I did not assume anything about you, I just said you have the general CHARACTERISTICS of a brainwashed individual, arguing for the sake of arguing without having facts to back up your claims. THAT, does not equate to being an MLMer. Perhaps you should go for english lessons? And having a professional job does not equate to you having the domain knowledge and expertise to speak authoritatively about a subject matter.

 

As I quote again what I have clearly stated:

 

Pardon me, but you sound like a mindwashed MLM or Ponzi (ie. Sunshine Empire) individual who is unable to accept a simple question of basing findings on facts, derived from quantifiable and measurable means.

 

 

i am juz makin a general statement and i am in no mean of wanting to argue or wat. this kind of qns, strong eagle have been debating ever since 1 yr back... i already know thus i am not going to qns or make any kind of comments on that. and to you since u already can say some of the basic term of electrical engineering. but do get your fact right.

 

with juz a basic internet search, you will know wat a capacitor will do and you are make it all confuse...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor

 

http://74.6.146.244/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&fr=slv1-adbe&p=capacitor+and+harmonics+&u=www.powerdesigners.com/InfoWeb/design_center/Design_Tips/Harmonics/Harmonics.shtm&w=capacitor+harmonics+harmonic&d=RyncSOljPGYM&icp=1&.intl=sg

 

pity pity that i think you are also being "brain washed"

 

ps:/ i hold a professional job and do not require MLM as i don't DO sales.

so i would greatly appreciate if you do noe ASS U ME.

[Nicholas Chan]

Issue here is that your objective is not for power factor correction of an electrical motor (with supply from the electrical company); the addition of the capacitor would be to function as an accumulator of sorts (ie. look at certain KTM scrambler models that uses a capacitor as it's accumulator/battery).

 

so if thats the case, shldnt it be the voltage stabilser be installed at the rectifier instead? wat do you think? ive never measured using a osciloscope (i forgot how to spell, hehe) at the rectifier output. anyone has?? are there ripples or distortion big enuf to affect the bike? i dun mind being the lab rat, hehehe... but i dun hve the neccessary equipments...

 

and guys, cmon chill.... we r here to discuss n share our views...

cheers :thumb:

[Strong Eagle]

Issue here is that your objective is not for power factor correction of an electrical motor (with supply from the electrical company); the addition of the capacitor would be to function as an accumulator of sorts (ie. look at certain KTM scrambler models that uses a capacitor as it's accumulator/battery).

 

But the question then is why bother to hook a capactior in parallel with the battery at all when the battery is a giant capacitor in itself?

 

A proper ripple smoothing circuit uses a resistor/capacitor combination to smooth power. No such combo is possible (or at least makes any sense) when you are connecting directly across the battery.