[Group] SUZUKI Bandit

[steng_z]

Originally posted by S750WP@Feb 12 2005, 11:30 PM

Can try Datsun's Father shop, its quoted at $80 inclusive of parts and labour.

 

Kata_Killer: I'm going to change my clutch plate, engine oil next month at planet motor, can ask Chong to give me discount. Can feel my engine is getting rough using the Total engine oil after approx 1000km. Previously using the Repsol 3000km still very smooth.

Hey S750WP....sms me if u goin down to planet moto...so we can meet.....hehehehe...

 

DREAM_MACHINE:wah u spray ur bike already ar...power siak.....wakakakaka...

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by S750WP@Feb 12 2005, 11:30 PM

Kata_Killer: I'm going to change my clutch plate, engine oil next month at planet motor, can ask Chong to give me discount. Can feel my engine is getting rough using the Total engine oil after approx 1000km. Previously using the Repsol 3000km still very smooth.

Call me when u reach there... Then let me do d toking to him on d phone! Then can liao.... Try not to go on Sat. He is damn busy... Try on weekdays.

[steng_z]

hi....yesterday i saw skybono bikes @eunos pl....one of the bike workshop...but nvr saw him lor........me ask the mechanic...he say the owner is 'ang moh'....anyone meet him b4..??

[steng_z]

er...nice or not this color....???

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by steng_z@Feb 13 2005, 01:10 PM

hi....yesterday i saw skybono bikes @eunos pl....one of the bike workshop...but nvr saw him lor........me ask the mechanic...he say the owner is 'ang moh'....anyone meet him b4..??

Hw do u know tat bandit is skybono bike? Dun tell me he got write his nick on his bike? Just being curious?

[steng_z]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Feb 15 2005, 01:45 AM

Hw do u know tat bandit is skybono bike? Dun tell me he got write his nick on his bike? Just being curious?

elo frenz...i saw skybono bike b4 at this forum....confirm want lah....hehehehe

[S750WP]

I got a said to be faulty CDI contributed by an ex bandit rider for my project.

 

Last nite I do a precheck for all the connectors on this CDI, nothing abnormal except the reading is higer than spec (mega ohms range instead of Kilo ohms).

 

Anyway I use a dremel and cut around the CDI box and split it into halves. Remove all the glue holding the circuit board and pull it out, need quite abit of strength as the board is slotted inside a groove and there is some glue holding onto it. After which I use some solvent to remove all the remains of the rubber compounds covering the board so that I can desolder and remove the components easily.

 

Tonight I'm going to desolder all the 5 capactiors, yes 5 of them instead of 4 not sure why. The orientation of the capacitors looks slightly different from the one in the german website but it has got the same part number.

 

http://www.picturesky.com/albums/userpics/11010/ignitor.jpg

 

Will keep you guys posted of what the new readings on the board after I solder on the new capacitors....

[Guest RG]

Originally posted by steng_z@Feb 13 2005, 02:38 PM

er...nice or not this color....???

Not nice

[DatsunKing]

Originally posted by S750WP@Feb 15 2005, 05:11 PM

I got a said to be faulty CDI contributed by an ex bandit rider for my project.

 

Last nite I do a precheck for all the connectors on this CDI, nothing abnormal except the reading is higer than spec (mega ohms range instead of Kilo ohms).

 

Anyway I use a dremel and cut around the CDI box and split it into halves. Remove all the glue holding the circuit board and pull it out, need quite abit of strength as the board is slotted inside a groove and there is some glue holding onto it. After which I use some solvent to remove all the remains of the rubber compounds covering the board so that I can desolder and remove the components easily.

 

Tonight I'm going to desolder all the 5 capactiors, yes 5 of them instead of 4 not sure why. The orientation of the capacitors looks slightly different from the one in the german website but it has got the same part number.

 

http://www.picturesky.com/albums/userpics/11010/ignitor.jpg

 

Will keep you guys posted of what the new readings on the board after I solder on the new capacitors....

That time my CDI down i do only got 4 capacitors... Ya the arrangement is different from the german website... Mine is 3 together and 1 seperate in the middle... After changing i click once can start in the morning liao... But after changing very hard to start... Cos i guess the capacitor got no energy inside... So after starting and move around and charge the capacitors, my CDI ok liao... Oh ya BTW it's no very easy to solder the thing... So i bought the capacitors and let a guy solder at sim lim tower...

[S750WP]

Originally posted by DatsunKing@Feb 15 2005, 07:04 PM

That time my CDI down i do only got 4 capacitors... Ya the arrangement is different from the german website... Mine is 3 together and 1 seperate in the middle... After changing i click once can start in the morning liao... But after changing very hard to start... Cos i guess the capacitor got no energy inside... So after starting and move around and charge the capacitors, my CDI ok liao... Oh ya BTW it's no very easy to solder the thing... So i bought the capacitors and let a guy solder at sim lim tower...

I just desolder the 5 capacitors, 2x 10uF(50v, 105degree c), 2x 47uF(35v, 85 degree c) and 1x 10uF(25v, 85 degree c). Going to get the spares from SLT tomorrow.

 

Btw which shop did you get the cap from and where did you send for soldering?

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by steng_z@Feb 15 2005, 10:04 AM

elo frenz...i saw skybono bike b4 at this forum....confirm want lah....hehehehe

Okay lor... I nothing to say. Y recently he nvm post anything huh?

[kata_killer]

Originally posted by DatsunKing@Feb 15 2005, 07:04 PM

That time my CDI down i do only got 4 capacitors... Ya the arrangement is different from the german website... Mine is 3 together and 1 seperate in the middle... After changing i click once can start in the morning liao... But after changing very hard to start... Cos i guess the capacitor got no energy inside... So after starting and move around and charge the capacitors, my CDI ok liao... Oh ya BTW it's no very easy to solder the thing... So i bought the capacitors and let a guy solder at sim lim tower...

U wan to try on my old CDI? I have cut d cover of d CDI into half....hee hee

[DatsunKing]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Feb 16 2005, 01:30 AM

U wan to try on my old CDI? I have cut d cover of d CDI into half....hee hee

Sure why not... Then i go solder lor... next time u guys need spare CDI can take from me... Roughly around $10 but that time i gave the guy $20 cos he complain very hard to solder... capacitors super cheap... 4 for just $0.80... But must ownself find lar... Note the capacitor's shape is different... But can use 1... Oh ya BTW changing capacitor might not help... But it's a cheap way to try 1st b4 changing CDI... cos CDI ex lar... BTW when you free? i wanna fix the horn... U still have?

 

The shop i went to is E-top electronics #03-33 Tel: 62955112

 

Got questions can sms me Patrick 97684099 cos work can't use hp...

[DatsunKing]

Oh ya after changing the capacitor remeber to glue the capacitors... Cos we bikes shake here and there later the capacitors break again...

[jkaiser]

all not sleeping? haha! sianz..mugging now...anyway pat, i drop by ur dad's tml...gonna settle the fork and shun4 bian4 ask him check my clutch cable...

 

i having the same symptoms as s750wp's bike...hot very hard to kick gear...hard to find neutral oso...but if it's clutch plates wearing out..how come no loss of power?

[S750WP]

Originally posted by jkaiser@Feb 16 2005, 01:53 AM

all not sleeping? haha! sianz..mugging now...anyway pat, i drop by ur dad's tml...gonna settle the fork and shun4 bian4 ask him check my clutch cable...

 

i having the same symptoms as s750wp's bike...hot very hard to kick gear...hard to find neutral oso...but if it's clutch plates wearing out..how come no loss of power?

There are many possibilites could be the metal plate warp, clutch sleeve hub or clutch basket scourge.

 

I will be experimenting to change the clutch plate, clutch spring and clutch release bearing on my own. Hopefully it will solve the problem. At the same time I will check the metal plate, clutch sleeve hub and clutch basket to see if they are scourge.

[S750WP]

Originally posted by DatsunKing@Feb 16 2005, 01:45 AM

Oh ya after changing the capacitor remeber to glue the capacitors... Cos we bikes shake here and there later the capacitors break again...

You use back the original CDI casing which you cut open?? I'm afraid rain water might find it way there. I hope to get a new casing from SLT to contain the circuit board and waterproof it myself. I will use a glue gun to hold the cap after I solder the new ones.

 

Do you sill have problem starting the bike after replacing the capacitors? Did you check if the guy solder the capacitor polarities correctly?

[S750WP]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Feb 16 2005, 01:30 AM

U wan to try on my old CDI? I have cut d cover of d CDI into half....hee hee

How is your gear shifting after you change the clutch plate at planet motorcycles, did you change the clutch spring and clutch release bearing?

[S750WP]

CAPACITOR CHECK

 

1. Disconnect capacitor from circuit.

2. Discharge capacitor by shorting between terminals.

3. Check capacitor with ohmmeter set at highest resistance scale:

 

If meter indicates a very low resistance which then gradually increases, the capacitor does not require replacement.

 

If meter indicates a very high resistance which does not diminish, it is open and should bereplaced.

 

If meter indicates a very low resistance which does not increase, the capacitor is shorted and should be replaced.

 

2 of the CDI cap shows high resistance and gradually dropping and the other 2 shows high resistance and gradually increasing. The last cap legs broke off so cant check.

[steng_z]

Originally posted by kata_killer@Feb 16 2005, 01:29 AM

Okay lor... I nothing to say. Y recently he nvm post anything huh?

me also dun noe....mayb he bz werkin lor...

 

so fren...when is the gathering..???place & time....???me hav to chk my schedule...hope can come lah....

[jkaiser]

the malay mech @ guan hoe said my symptoms is for clutch sleeve..not sure leh...

 

i wait for u to experiment 1st

[S750WP]

Originally posted by jkaiser@Feb 16 2005, 11:41 AM

the malay mech @ guan hoe said my symptoms is for clutch sleeve..not sure leh...

 

i wait for u to experiment 1st

Should have ask the old man at GH, the malay guy quite new, no experience. The last time I called to ask the quote to change clutch plate, the auntie, magaret, also say must change clutch sleeve hub if not no guarantee it will be smooth.

 

Its not cheap to change the clutch sleeve hub, I will ask a few opinions from bikeshop to see what they say. Btw what engine oil are you using??

[jkaiser]

Originally posted by S750WP@Feb 16 2005, 02:00 PM

Should have ask the old man at GH, the malay guy quite new, no experience. The last time I called to ask the quote to change clutch plate, the auntie, magaret, also say must change clutch sleeve hub if not no guarantee it will be smooth.

 

Its not cheap to change the clutch sleeve hub, I will ask a few opinions from bikeshop to see what they say. Btw what engine oil are you using??

costs more than the plates? hmm so the idea is change plates will improve the situation but it wun be solved until u change the sleeves too?

 

i using royal purple...full syn...cheap lah..no money...10 bucks per 900ml

[Guest RG]

Originally posted by S750WP@Feb 16 2005, 02:00 PM

Should have ask the old man at GH, the malay guy quite new, no experience. The last time I called to ask the quote to change clutch plate, the auntie, magaret, also say must change clutch sleeve hub if not no guarantee it will be smooth.

Even if u ask Mr Han(the boss), he'll tell u the same thing.

By the way, Hazzan is not new, in fact he is quite experienced.

[imported_DREAM_MACHINE]

I'm also having the same clutch problems..i wonder watz needed to be change..

upgear is easy..but down gear kinda hard..

the bike also move jus a bit when engaging gear one..

I'm using Castrol HD engine oil..$20 for 5 ltrs.

Wanna check wit u guys,where are ur I.U units mounted?on the side wit bracket?

I'm looking for bracket to mount the I.U on the center(like S4)..any lobangs?or do i hav to go custom make one?