[Group] Singapore BAJAJ Team (SBT)

[Nemesis]

Those buying the alarm dun ferget to put ur name at the PMO thread.... Mercenary and me has done so...

 

Actually...... I was thinking putting the name here, with quantity, maybe i can bargain for lower price.... haiz... Anyway, is good also... save me alot of trouble.

[Nemesis]

few days nv online, got so many new posts....

 

tomorrow still got ippt.

 

anyway for our head light, the two small bulb can fit T5 or T10?? do i need extra resistors or anything if i change the bulb to LED 1?

 

that is Pilot lamp... using T-10... no resistor needed... max is 4 LED because of the size..

[Mrace]

OH.... I know who... anyway... if you r getting pulsar... remember to ask UM to shave the seat cushion to make it lower...

 

P200 is more sporty but spare part not in yet... P180 there alot of thing to mod...

 

Ya.. :cry: too short.. need to shave seat...

 

:sorry: :sorry:

My mistake! Got the numerals mixed up when posting last nite.

 

Yeah, Nemesis is correct. I think UM's price now (everything in except insurance) for P200 is abt $5700 and for P180 is just under $5000.

 

Insurance maybe pretty high for my case.. since if i do get the bike.. i will be a P-Plater..

 

Hopefully the price will drop further in another 2-3mths time..

[Ah_Pet]

Well first of all for kickstarters i need to know in total how many is seriously interested.The more the merrier,so that i can get a better price.List out all the names and Hp numbers.

 

roughly how much u got urs???

 

i;m interested

[seroja]

few days nv online, got so many new posts....

 

Have to agree with you bro..

 

So if I am able to summarize all that is being brought up recently...

 

1) DIY

-install alarm

-hazard light

Date will be confirmed after all get the alarm from PMO

 

2) PMO

-alarm (as mentioned above)

-hel brakeline

 

did i miss out on anithing else?

 

interested in the hazard light install and hel brakeline (but can quote price first?)

and can it be used for clutch cable as well?

 

 

and yes, do tighten the rear brakes. (but then again after tighten screeching noises even louder leh..i know its due to dust or worn out brakeshoe, but mine gotta be the ealier coz my brakeshoe relatively new. maybe DIY can teach how to open and clear the dust?)

 

 

By the way,I did the welding of the head of the exhaust pipe. DEFINITELY better torque and less noisy. didnt actually think of the repercussions of not welding it, but after reading what tony said, can heave a sigh of relief

[Lanzer]

Hel brakeline.

 

At least a range 1st. Approx..............

[blueyeagle]

Hel brakeline.

 

At least a range 1st. Approx..............

 

Yes agree! Give us the price tag so that we can see whether it fits our budget or not. If the price is right, i think many of our brudders/sistas here will be interested. After that can do mass order. Our bajaj team here are so supportive. Hehe..

 

List out all the names and Hp numbers.

 

IMHO, if possible can minimize posting of handphone numbers in the forum to prevent misuse by irresponsible people. I will try to make access to handphone numbers in our d95.com/sbt portal to only registered and confirmed members. So that we will not get any prank or criminal calls as published in newspapers. (eg. kidnapped of family members and ask for ransom. etc..)

[Nemesis]

Ya.. :cry: too short.. need to shave seat...

 

 

 

Insurance maybe pretty high for my case.. since if i do get the bike.. i will be a P-Plater..

 

Hopefully the price will drop further in another 2-3mths time..

 

my intial is insurance is 300++ plus a 150 for p-plate.... but now is onli 284.

 

I suggest u get 180, cause P180 look like a mini-s4 while P200 look like honda twister 250..

[Roadrunner71]

V-power

No need V-Power or other premium grade of petrol for Pulsar lah. Doesn't mean feed with V-Power, will have more power.

 

The octane rating is a measure of the anti-knocking capacity of the petrol. The higher the octane no., the higher is the petrol's ability to prevent engine knocking.

 

Sports cars and sports bikes have engines with higher compression ratio which results in engine knocking. So they need petrol with high octane no. to prevent this.

 

This may cause many people to have the misconception that using a higher octane petrol will increase the engine's performance. The fact is, engines perform best when using fuel with the octane rating for which they were designed.

[lindavw]

No need V-Power or other premium grade of petrol for Pulsar lah. Doesn't mean feed with V-Power, will have more power.

 

The octane rating is a measure of the anti-knocking capacity of the petrol. The higher the octane no., the higher is the petrol's ability to prevent engine knocking.

 

Sports cars and sports bikes have engines with higher compression ratio which results in engine knocking. So they need petrol with high octane no. to prevent this.

 

This may cause many people to have the misconception that using a higher octane petrol will increase the engine's performance. The fact is, engines perform best when using fuel with the octane rating for which they were designed.

 

bro ur explaination is spot on.

[milktm]

welcome... maybe u can start your saving.. never know by the time u get your license u afford to get the new pulsar 200cc...

 

i prefer the p180 coz it seems nicer for me.

 

anyway, there's a few question a newbie like mi wanna know.

 

1)is there any fairing possible to equip to p180 like sp?

 

2)which sprocket is best for riding on exp way frequently?

 

3)im 20yrs old and p-plate, if i were to get p180 the insurance for 3rd party is appro how much?

 

4)getting a 3rd party insurance better or 2nd party(3rd party fire and theft) insurance?

 

5)p180 on shop now mostly is UG3? or there's still UG1 and UG2? im afraid of getting cheated by the bike shop if i juz told them i wan p180 and i don't know how to see the difference between them.

 

6)where can i get the cheapest p180? getting 2nd hand better or 1st hand?

 

thank you for helping the noob out!

[GoofRider]

 

By the way,I did the welding of the head of the exhaust pipe. DEFINITELY better torque and less noisy. didnt actually think of the repercussions of not welding it, but after reading what tony said, can heave a sigh of relief

 

bro, may i know which part of the exhaust you're refering to? have a pic to show. thanks

[Roadrunner71]

anyway, there's a few question a newbie like mi wanna know

1)is there any fairing possible to equip to p180 like sp?

In India, maybe yes. Here, no. Even if can, dun forget gotta go for inspection. 1st & foremost, the Pulsar is a naked bike. If u wanna spend $ putting full fairing on a naked bike, might as well buy a sportsbike.

 

2)which sprocket is best for riding on exp way frequently?

Pulsar's stock sprockets are 15T front & 43T rear. To have better cruising/top speed (at the expense of pick-up speed), change to front sprocket with more teeth and/or change to rear sprocket with fewer teeth.

 

3)im 20yrs old and p-plate, if i were to get p180 the insurance for 3rd party is appro how much?

No idea. Gotta check with motorshops, or insurance co., or other riders who are 20 yrs old and p-plate.

 

4)getting a 3rd party insurance better or 2nd party(3rd party fire and theft) insurance?

Of course 2nd party better cos of more coverage. But gotta pay more for it lah. For hire-purchase, minimum insurance is 2nd party.

 

5)p180 on shop now mostly is UG3? or there's still UG1 and UG2? im afraid of getting cheated by the bike shop if i juz told them i wan p180 and i don't know how to see the difference between them.

There's no 1st-hand UG2 in shops, let alone 1st-hand UG1. Dun think there's any 2nd hand UG1 either. UM might have a few 2nd hand UG2.

 

To tell difference between UG2 & UG3, look at the meter console. UG3's is digital, UG2's is analog. If from a distance, look at the tailboard. UG3's is sharp. Anyway, I dun think any bike shop dare to cheat u on something so obvious lah.

 

6)where can i get the cheapest p180? getting 2nd hand better or 1st hand?

For 2nd hand, buying from pte owners is usually cheaper than buying from shops. As for buying from shops for either 1st or 2nd hand, u gotta make some effort lah by checking out the different shops. My advice is just buy from UM lah.

 

If u're upgrading to 2A bike in 1-2 yrs' time, then just buy 2nd hand. If u buy 1st hand then sell it 1 yr later, u lose a lot cos depreciation rate is highest in 1st yr. If u intend to use for more than 3 yrs, then better get 1st hand.

[Nemesis]

No need V-Power or other premium grade of petrol for Pulsar lah. Doesn't mean feed with V-Power, will have more power.

 

The octane rating is a measure of the anti-knocking capacity of the petrol. The higher the octane no., the higher is the petrol's ability to prevent engine knocking.

 

Sports cars and sports bikes have engines with higher compression ratio which results in engine knocking. So they need petrol with high octane no. to prevent this.

 

This may cause many people to have the misconception that using a higher octane petrol will increase the engine's performance. The fact is, engines perform best when using fuel with the octane rating for which they were designed.

 

bro... to chim leh....

 

Engine Knocking ??? I dun understand..... care to share ?

 

Anyway.... this what i pump & tested and feel...

Normal petrol = pickup not that good, need to oopen more throttle to achieve what i want. MOre petrol burn to reach certain stage, in a nutshell = more power less mileage.

V-power = good pickup, open less throttle to get what i want. Less petrol burn, better combustion = more mileage

caltex Platium = I tested when i hit reserve, pump in 5buck. somehow the engine feel much more smooth. the feeling damn shiok but very ex....

 

I tested with car also... UL 95, power not there... V-power = power is there, mileage is there also...

 

But ONe thing for sure... I neber pump caltex in JB.... the last time i pump for my car.... totally can not make it....

[Nemesis]

Summary...

 

Irregardless wat we pump, IS all base on indivdual rider. there is no such thing which petrol that we MUST pump into our tank. Different riders got different riding style. Theory and pratical is always different. End of the day, what is important is that the bike can move.

 

IN term of which petrol is suited for you, please go try it out.

 

Unleaded 92

Unleaded 95

unleaded 97

Unleaded 98

V-power

Platinum

 

[avilu]

No need V-Power or other premium grade of petrol for Pulsar lah. Doesn't mean feed with V-Power, will have more power.

 

The octane rating is a measure of the anti-knocking capacity of the petrol. The higher the octane no., the higher is the petrol's ability to prevent engine knocking.

 

Sports cars and sports bikes have engines with higher compression ratio which results in engine knocking. So they need petrol with high octane no. to prevent this.

 

This may cause many people to have the misconception that using a higher octane petrol will increase the engine's performance. The fact is, engines perform best when using fuel with the octane rating for which they were designed.

 

Excellent explanation, thank you.

 

May I know whether 92 is good enough? have you observed any issue with 92? What is optimum?

[GoofRider]

1)is there any fairing possible to equip to p180 like sp?

In India, maybe yes. Here, no. Even if can, dun forget gotta go for inspection. 1st & foremost, the Pulsar is a naked bike. If u wanna spend $ putting full fairing on a naked bike, might as well buy a sportsbike.

 

2)which sprocket is best for riding on exp way frequently?

Pulsar's stock sprockets are 15T front & 43T rear. To have better cruising/top speed (at the expense of pick-up speed), change to front sprocket with more teeth and/or change to rear sprocket with fewer teeth.

 

3)im 20yrs old and p-plate, if i were to get p180 the insurance for 3rd party is appro how much?

No idea. Gotta check with motorshops, or insurance co., or other riders who are 20 yrs old and p-plate.

 

4)getting a 3rd party insurance better or 2nd party(3rd party fire and theft) insurance?

Of course 2nd party better cos of more coverage. But gotta pay more for it lah. For hire-purchase, minimum insurance is 2nd party.

 

5)p180 on shop now mostly is UG3? or there's still UG1 and UG2? im afraid of getting cheated by the bike shop if i juz told them i wan p180 and i don't know how to see the difference between them.

There's no 1st-hand UG2 in shops, let alone 1st-hand UG1. Dun think there's any 2nd hand UG1 either. UM might have a few 2nd hand UG2.

 

To tell difference between UG2 & UG3, look at the meter console. UG3's is digital, UG2's is analog. If from a distance, look at the tailboard. UG3's is sharp. Anyway, I dun think any bike shop dare to cheat u on something so obvious lah.

 

6)where can i get the cheapest p180? getting 2nd hand better or 1st hand?

For 2nd hand, buying from pte owners is usually cheaper than buying from shops. As for buying from shops for either 1st or 2nd hand, u gotta make some effort lah by checking out the different shops. My advice is just buy from UM lah.

 

If u're upgrading to 2A bike in 1-2 yrs' time, then just buy 2nd hand. If u buy 1st hand then sell it 1 yr later, u lose a lot cos depreciation rate is highest in 1st yr. If u intend to use for more than 3 yrs, then better get 1st hand.

 

bro.. there is UG1 in singapore road.. but maybe a few only..

i saw before a newspaper seller at Holland V park his UG1 beside his stall.. that was two years ago.

[Roadrunner71]

Anyway.... this what i pump & tested and feel...

That's the thing. It's a FEELING. Such things need to be substantiated with hard data from scientific tests, not from guts and feelings.

 

Fairer method of test using guts and feelings:

Get someone to fill up ur bike with 2 different grades of petrol from the same company on 2 different occasions without u knowing which is which. Then u test ride and see whether u can tell which is which.

 

there is no such thing which petrol that we MUST pump into our tank.

I didn't say we CANNOT pump premium grade petrol into Pulsar nor that we MUST pump this grade or that grade of petrol into our tanks. Wat u pump into ur tank is up to u lah. No prob watsoever in using petrol with higher-than-required octane rating. Just dun use lower-than-required. I'm just saying any increase in performance by using petrol with higher octane rating is minimal or even imaginary.

 

May I know whether 92 is good enough? have you observed any issue with 92? What is optimum?

RON92 is good enough. The minimum for Pulsar 220 is 87!

 

But I've never tried 92. I'm a Shell loyalist. Not all Shell stations here have 92 so I pump 95. Initially, used V-Power. Then downgraded to 98. Now using 95. To me, no significant difference lah.

[Roadrunner71]

bro.. there is UG1 in singapore road.. but maybe a few only..

i saw before a newspaper seller at Holland V park his UG1 beside his stall.. that was two years ago.

Wat I said was, there's no 1st or 2nd hand UG1 in shops.

[avilu]

Thanks to all who responded on fuel grade query.

 

I am a Caltex loyalist though I tried SPC once in a while. When I had Yamaha-RXZ, the difference between 95 to 92 was quite evident. With 92, I had trouble to start in the morning and warm up used to take a minute plus.That wasn't there in 95.

 

Presently I have 95 in my bike (Caltex again) and will try out 92 from SPC. I will let you all know my experience.

 

Have a nice day !

[GoofRider]

Wat I said was, there's no 1st or 2nd hand UG1 in shops.

 

sorry what i mean the guy might change his mind and sell his UG1 and get pulsar 200cc.. heee.. but slim chance lah..

[milktm]

1)is there any fairing possible to equip to p180 like sp?

In India, maybe yes. Here, no. Even if can, dun forget gotta go for inspection. 1st & foremost, the Pulsar is a naked bike. If u wanna spend $ putting full fairing on a naked bike, might as well buy a sportsbike.

 

2)which sprocket is best for riding on exp way frequently?

Pulsar's stock sprockets are 15T front & 43T rear. To have better cruising/top speed (at the expense of pick-up speed), change to front sprocket with more teeth and/or change to rear sprocket with fewer teeth.

 

3)im 20yrs old and p-plate, if i were to get p180 the insurance for 3rd party is appro how much?

No idea. Gotta check with motorshops, or insurance co., or other riders who are 20 yrs old and p-plate.

 

4)getting a 3rd party insurance better or 2nd party(3rd party fire and theft) insurance?

Of course 2nd party better cos of more coverage. But gotta pay more for it lah. For hire-purchase, minimum insurance is 2nd party.

 

5)p180 on shop now mostly is UG3? or there's still UG1 and UG2? im afraid of getting cheated by the bike shop if i juz told them i wan p180 and i don't know how to see the difference between them.

There's no 1st-hand UG2 in shops, let alone 1st-hand UG1. Dun think there's any 2nd hand UG1 either. UM might have a few 2nd hand UG2.

 

To tell difference between UG2 & UG3, look at the meter console. UG3's is digital, UG2's is analog. If from a distance, look at the tailboard. UG3's is sharp. Anyway, I dun think any bike shop dare to cheat u on something so obvious lah.

 

6)where can i get the cheapest p180? getting 2nd hand better or 1st hand?

For 2nd hand, buying from pte owners is usually cheaper than buying from shops. As for buying from shops for either 1st or 2nd hand, u gotta make some effort lah by checking out the different shops. My advice is just buy from UM lah.

 

If u're upgrading to 2A bike in 1-2 yrs' time, then just buy 2nd hand. If u buy 1st hand then sell it 1 yr later, u lose a lot cos depreciation rate is highest in 1st yr. If u intend to use for more than 3 yrs, then better get 1st hand.

 

thanks roadrunner! u've answered most of my question. so now i just hav to wait till my license n go UM get my bike!

[milktm]

i have 2 more noob question..

 

1)is installing of light under seat legal or illegal?

 

2)inspection of bike is how long once?

[SuVespa]

i have 2 more noob question..

 

1)is installing of light under seat legal or illegal?

Make a guess...

 

2)inspection of bike is how long once?

Brand new and

 

Old bike....yearly

[Nemesis]

That's the thing. It's a FEELING. Such things need to be substantiated with hard data from scientific tests, not from guts and feelings.

 

Fairer method of test using guts and feelings:

Get someone to fill up ur bike with 2 different grades of petrol from the same company on 2 different occasions without u knowing which is which. Then u test ride and see whether u can tell which is which.

 

 

I didn't say we CANNOT pump premium grade petrol into Pulsar nor that we MUST pump this grade or that grade of petrol into our tanks. Wat u pump into ur tank is up to u lah. No prob watsoever in using petrol with higher-than-required octane rating. Just dun use lower-than-required. I'm just saying any increase in performance by using petrol with higher octane rating is minimal or even imaginary.

 

 

RON92 is good enough. The minimum for Pulsar 220 is 87!

 

But I've never tried 92. I'm a Shell loyalist. Not all Shell stations here have 92 so I pump 95. Initially, used V-Power. Then downgraded to 98. Now using 95. To me, no significant difference lah.

 

:dot: :dot: :dot:

Bro.... why u feel no different is because u neber "wack" ur bike mah... WAU LAU ! cannot everything go by book lar.... i actually forget the most important point.... you neber wack... haiz...

 

the test is the same as the diy session where merc put to test the Power abuse. Solar dun feel the different after two round is because he neber wack the bike... where else "I forget the nick" feel the different after a single round of test is because he use to go fast.

 

same go to sprocket and petrol. if you dun play pickup, you neber feel the different.

 

bro... feel is not imaginary... it is a fact. you need it when come to riding. riding in top speed, riding in traffic jam... infact "feel" can help to avoid accident also.

 

Sometime thing need not sciencific to explain. or best, Science cannot explain everything.

 

"Feel" your bike.... your bike will tell you if it got problem or not.

 

If the rider cannot "feel", irregardless what petrol you pump into the tank... is all the same.

 

BRO, dun get offended by what i have post. you can do a test on those who travel fast and those who travel normally. you will see a the different.

 

Since you downgraded.... why not this time you upgrade again ? i'm sure u feel the different.