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[WANG ZI]

hi is the clutch shoe. but the mechanic say cant just change the clutch shoe alone. hv to change the whole set. but is a 2nd hand wan. i do my servicing at tis amk eddy ong. although is cheap but like to chop ppl. thk of changing bikeshop. anybikeshop recommend me? good in doing skipper n good attiuade.

 

btw do u hv the wedsite for skipper owner manual?

[BLACK COMET]

Originally posted by WANG ZI@Apr 1 2004, 04:28 PM

hi is the clutch shoe. but the mechanic say cant just change the clutch shoe alone. hv to change the whole set. but is a 2nd hand wan. i do my servicing at tis amk eddy ong. although is cheap but like to chop ppl. thk of changing bikeshop. anybikeshop recommend me? good in doing skipper n good attiuade.

 

btw do u hv the wedsite for skipper owner manual?

Manual for skipper? nah. Can't seems find it on net.

But haynes manual is available on market. 50+

 

In this case, I think you should give taihin a try.

Taihin is at rangoon road. directly oposite suzuki agent.

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by BLACK COMET@Apr 1 2004, 05:17 PM

Manual for skipper? nah. Can't seems find it on net.

But haynes manual is available on market. 50+

 

In this case, I think you should give taihin a try.

Taihin is at rangoon road. directly oposite suzuki agent.

 

better change shop lah.

there don't seem to know much abt auto scooter.

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by BLACK COMET@Apr 1 2004, 03:05 PM

400+ not ex lah.

 

It consist of a newclutch set. out pulley.

So if you split by 2 is 200+.

Then u get a second hand set at 100. So around there lor.

Plus labor also mah.

 

but uncle lacer is right. where got people change outer rear pulley one?

Unless yours is badly worn out or badly scarred.

 

What????? every half year need to change????????????

 

that is nonsense. The only thing need to change preiodically is your belt and rollers.

 

maybe you take a look at this picture first and tell me which part is change

 

http://www.gilerarunner.8m.com/maintainence_belt.jpg

 

Is the part that is changed looks like something that is at the rear wheel?

he kana con liao lah !!!!

 

even the clutch shoe will take forever to be wearoff mah.

 

as for the clutch bell. the only time need to change is when those teeth that holds the drive shaft start to wear off.

[kennyseaw]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 1 2004, 05:25 PM

 

better change shop lah.

there don't seem to know much abt auto scooter.

From what i c from the reply, i agree with you change bike shop better

[BLACK COMET]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 1 2004, 05:30 PM

he kana con liao lah !!!!

 

even the clutch shoe will take forever to be wearoff mah.

 

as for the clutch bell. the only time need to change is when those teeth that holds the drive shaft start to wear off.

U think jackie should give both of us recommendation fees?

[kennyseaw]

Originally posted by BLACK COMET@Apr 1 2004, 05:33 PM

U think jackie should give both of us recommendation fees?

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by BLACK COMET@Apr 1 2004, 05:33 PM

U think jackie should give both of us recommendation fees?

YES YES YES

 

JACKYE R U READY THIS ????

 

:lovestruck:

[kennyseaw]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 1 2004, 05:35 PM

YES YES YES

 

JACKYE R U READY THIS ????

 

:lovestruck:

[lifeless99]

Is there a shop which do have a ready stock 150cc & 172cc block for SKIPPER 125...and the price...

 

 

thanks

[xyoshiki]

hi is the clutch shoe. but the mechanic say cant just change the clutch shoe alone. hv to change the whole set. but is a 2nd hand wan. i do my servicing at tis amk eddy ong. although is cheap but like to chop ppl. thk of changing bikeshop. anybikeshop recommend me? good in doing skipper n good attiuade.

 

he kana con liao lah !!!!

 

even the clutch shoe will take forever to be wearoff mah.

 

as for the clutch bell. the only time need to change is when those teeth that holds the drive shaft start to wear off.

 

 

Sorrie ya dun know how to quote so just cut n paste...........

 

For the clutch shoe, i think your mechanic change is bo bian one loh. Coz from wat i know the clutch bell for new skipper is bigger n cannot fit inside the old clutch shoe of a piaggio skipper 125. So must change to a "bigger" model of clutch shoe. This is what i kana last time. Then see the mechanic has to saw/cut my "engine cover" to fit the clutch shoe inside.

 

But can someone tell me how long clutch bell will last???

thanxs

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by xyoshiki@Apr 1 2004, 09:04 PM

hi is the clutch shoe. but the mechanic say cant just change the clutch shoe alone. hv to change the whole set. but is a 2nd hand wan. i do my servicing at tis amk eddy ong. although is cheap but like to chop ppl. thk of changing bikeshop. anybikeshop recommend me? good in doing skipper n good attiuade.

 

he kana con liao lah !!!!

 

even the clutch shoe will take forever to be wearoff mah.

 

as for the clutch bell. the only time need to change is when those teeth that holds the drive shaft start to wear off.

 

 

Sorrie ya dun know how to quote so just cut n paste...........

 

For the clutch shoe, i think your mechanic change is bo bian one loh. Coz from wat i know the clutch bell for new skipper is bigger n cannot fit inside the old clutch shoe of a piaggio skipper 125. So must change to a "bigger" model of clutch shoe. This is what i kana last time. Then see the mechanic has to saw/cut my "engine cover" to fit the clutch shoe inside.

 

But can someone tell me how long clutch bell will last???

thanxs

woa lao !

u know how to cut and paste the ans but don't know how to read it !!

 

as for the clutch bell. the only time need to change is when those teeth that holds the drive shaft start to wear off.etc if u need to change the belt , check the clutch shoe or change the torque spring.it depend on how often u remove the clutch bell loh.oh there is still 1 more factor. if u had mod it scoot and ur riding style is very aggressive, the clutch bell teeth will also wear off faster.

 

does that ans ur question !!

 

even if u r right abt the clutch bell. u will only need to do it once nia mah . but he say every half year need to change the whole set !! don't u find it fishy !!. somemore change second hand one. what make u think that the second hand part was not used more then half year , contridicting right ????.

[BLACK COMET]

Originally posted by xyoshiki@Apr 1 2004, 09:04 PM

hi is the clutch shoe. but the mechanic say cant just change the clutch shoe alone. hv to change the whole set. but is a 2nd hand wan. i do my servicing at tis amk eddy ong. although is cheap but like to chop ppl. thk of changing bikeshop. anybikeshop recommend me? good in doing skipper n good attiuade.

 

he kana con liao lah !!!!

 

even the clutch shoe will take forever to be wearoff mah.

 

as for the clutch bell. the only time need to change is when those teeth that holds the drive shaft start to wear off.

 

 

Sorrie ya dun know how to quote so just cut n paste...........

 

For the clutch shoe, i think your mechanic change is bo bian one loh. Coz from wat i know the clutch bell for new skipper is bigger n cannot fit inside the old clutch shoe of a piaggio skipper 125. So must change to a "bigger" model of clutch shoe. This is what i kana last time. Then see the mechanic has to saw/cut my "engine cover" to fit the clutch shoe inside.

 

But can someone tell me how long clutch bell will last???

thanxs

...................

 

If your mechanic told you this, I sugguest you change your mech.

 

In case you don't know. Do you know that the Skipper, typhoon, hexagon125~180.

Runner 125~180, all the 2stroke scoot is using the same variator, pulley, belts clutch bell and clutch shoe?

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by BLACK COMET@Apr 1 2004, 10:45 PM

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If your mechanic told you this, I sugguest you change your mech.

 

In case you don't know. Do you know that the Skipper, typhoon, hexagon125~180.

Runner 125~180, all the 2stroke scoot is using the same variator, pulley, belts clutch bell and clutch shoe?

er !

i think u r wrong this time.

it is true some skipper r using smaller clutch bell.( think it's the earliar models.)

last time when i want to polish my trans cover, jackye try to fit a skipper trans cover on my dragster. it didn't fit. the skipper tans cover cannot fit because my clutch bell was blocking it.

[BLACK COMET]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 1 2004, 10:55 PM

er !

i think u r wrong this time.

it is true some skipper r using smaller clutch bell.( think it's the earliar models.)

last time when i want to polish my trans cover, jackye try to fit a skipper trans cover on my dragster. it didn't fit. the skipper tans cover cannot fit because my clutch bell was blocking it.

Hehe, wanna bet?

 

You use a dragster/runner 180 engine and try to fit a skipper cover.

Of course cannot lah. The screw and the depth of the transmission housing is

different.

 

What I'm saying is the internal parts. Carbs-same. variator-same, clutch-same, bell same, pulley-same. belt-same. Roller is different weight. but diemnsion is same.

 

Simple. Just compare the malossi part no. and piaggio part number. They are the same. Of course the engine casing is different.

[Fass]

Originally posted by WANG ZI@Apr 1 2004, 04:28 PM

hi is the clutch shoe. but the mechanic say cant just change the clutch shoe alone. hv to change the whole set. but is a 2nd hand wan. i do my servicing at tis amk eddy ong. although is cheap but like to chop ppl. thk of changing bikeshop. anybikeshop recommend me? good in doing skipper n good attiuade.

 

btw do u hv the wedsite for skipper owner manual?

The pb kid talk very loud one is it? The shop got one indian mechanic?

 

although is cheap but like to chop ppl

 

What the hell does that mean? Cheap but like to chop people. I think you are like a lamb to the slaughter

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by BLACK COMET@Apr 2 2004, 12:44 AM

Hehe, wanna bet?

 

You use a dragster/runner 180 engine and try to fit a skipper cover.

Of course cannot lah. The screw and the depth of the transmission housing is

different.

 

What I'm saying is the internal parts. Carbs-same. variator-same, clutch-same, bell same, pulley-same. belt-same. Roller is different weight. but diemnsion is same.

 

Simple. Just compare the malossi part no. and piaggio part number. They are the same. Of course the engine casing is different.

i'll give jackye a call tomolo to comfirm.

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by Fass@Apr 2 2004, 12:58 AM

The pb kid talk very loud one is it? The shop got one indian mechanic?

 

 

 

What the hell does that mean? Cheap but like to chop people. I think you are like a lamb to the slaughter

this eddy ong shop very famous one ah ??

[Fass]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 2 2004, 01:27 AM

this eddy ong shop very famous one ah ??

Very famous to ziggy, kenny, iggy and me, if we are talking about the correct shop. Bugger damn kwai lan

[BLACK COMET]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 2 2004, 01:26 AM

i'll give jackye a call tomolo to comfirm.

Brudder.

 

The Key is part number.

 

Stupid statement from me. But a malossi part number or paiggio part number,

will not have different part number on the same thing.

IF a part from skipper and runner is different, eg variator,

the won't have the same part number.

 

eg. Runner 2stroke, italjet dragster 180, skipper 125, typhoon 125

uses the same malossi variator p/n:5111258

[WANG ZI]

thanks frend. but at there change belling cheap leh. $40+ hee.... btw BLACK COMET u got the full add of the bike shop that name tai hin bikeshop. if im not wrong. what is the opening hrs?

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by Fass@Apr 2 2004, 01:40 AM

Very famous to ziggy, kenny, iggy and me, if we are talking about the correct shop. Bugger damn kwai lan

OIC:faint:

[scooter lacer]

Originally posted by BLACK COMET@Apr 2 2004, 08:57 AM

Brudder.

 

The Key is part number.

 

Stupid statement from me. But a malossi part number or paiggio part number,

will not have different part number on the same thing.

IF a part from skipper and runner is different, eg variator,

the won't have the same part number.

 

eg. Runner 2stroke, italjet dragster 180, skipper 125, typhoon 125

uses the same malossi variator p/n:5111258

bluther !

nearly kana smoke by u liao lah !!

ok ! i found out only the last badge of skipper r using the same trans as runner nia.

the older badges used smaller clutch system lah.

BUT i also found out that the older badge can simply change the trans cover to be able to fit in the bigger clutch system .

so in order to use malossi or after market parts just change the the trans cover can liao.

 

BTW the smaller clutch system is no longer available.

[BLACK COMET]

Originally posted by WANG ZI@Apr 2 2004, 10:42 AM

thanks frend. but at there change belling cheap leh. $40+ hee.... btw BLACK COMET u got the full add of the bike shop that name tai hin bikeshop. if im not wrong. what is the opening hrs?

Just turn in rangoon road can already. It's a row of shop houses. Cannot miss one.

Operation hrs is till 7pm. Morning what time open I'm not sure.

[BLACK COMET]

Originally posted by scooter lacer@Apr 2 2004, 10:54 AM

bluther !

nearly kana smoke by u liao lah !!

ok ! i found out only the last badge of skipper r using the same trans as runner nia.

the older badges used smaller clutch system lah.

BUT i also found out that the older badge can simply change the trans cover to be able to fit in the bigger clutch system .

so in order to use malossi or after market parts just change the the trans cover can liao.

 

BTW the smaller clutch system is no longer available.

hehe.

 

IC IC. My mistake

 

I'm data person. Just crunch info and process only.

 

Guess I'm just half right. Sorry sorry.

 

I think I over crunch data recent. I think I almost go haywire already.

 

Now the missing link to the jigsaw puzzle is out.

 

The so call MKII variator, pulley and clutch unit is actually a

runner set. Interesting.

 

These are the following spec I've found

 

http://www.scootertune.com/gilera/spec.htm

 

Seem like they share alot of common parts.

 

Rollers are the same for stroke runner, dragster.

Skipper uses another dimension and wieght.

 

But what interest me is that the belts all are 22 x 828

 

So final equations. Runner/dragster and later batch of skippers

uses the same belts, variator, pulley and clutch systems.

 

Can a runner transcover fit into a skipper?

 

yessss!!!!!!! data! data! More data!!!!!!