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SP12 project bike.

 

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high compression and turbocharged engines.

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Originally posted by VYN@May 28 2006, 08:13 PM

 

high compression and turbocharged engines.

What do you think is the recommended shelf life for the stock cylinder studs, valve or conrod etc to take on the big stroker? In term of mileage..

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i will change studs for the high compression as in high com piston,big bore kit or stroker..insurance for preventing blown and leaking head gaskets..er...for valve i will not change..i will change the springs+retainers but only if i upgrage to after mkt cams..rods depends on the condition/builder ba..stock rod can hold up to 300bhp??anyway i dun have any of those....i do know some of the boys who have those....:cheeky:

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the stock conrods can hold up to 300bhp and also heard frm most places dat after market rods tend to have clearence issues gotta grind here and there so i am still sticking wif the stock rods and for the studs best to know bout the torque setting first ba as for valves like wat vyn said ..... unless u have Cams or intend to put in oversized valves the stock ones should be able to hold it ...... i think ..... just read from some guy..... "I dont see the point in studs for the 12 unless you're putting boost on it. Waste of time effort and money" ------ advised by rac4it

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Title : Speed Bleed

 

The convoluted case of the zx12's missing mph

 

That hissing sound you hear is the air being let out of Kawasaki's balloon. The mighty ZX12, pride of Akashi, intended to return Big K to its rightful place atop Vmax Moutain, is 10mph too slow. Insult to injury, even with its suspension slammed and a hired gun in the saddle ( see "Factory Flyer," page 46), the 12 is slower through the quarter mile than a stock Suzuki Hayabusa. " Its an embarrassment, " bemoans one frustrated Kawasaki official. What happened?

The ZX-12 ran into a buzzsaw of political correctness and social responsibility, is what happened. There's not a lot of speaking on the record yet, but here's what we know: Last year, a promotional video for the Hayabusa was shot on a two lane stretch of German autobahn. It featured a couple of fast cars steaming along the voluntary speed limit agreed to by most European auto makers, 250 kmh (155 mph). Suddenly, a Suzuki lane-splits the two cars, busting past with an extra 50kph in hand, easy.

Aired extensively, the footage did not sit well with certain European Community legislators, safety-crats and ecologically oversensitive "Greenies," already geared up to rid the world of frivolous personal transportation anyway, especially if the dreaded internal-combustion engine is involved. The Germans and French were particularly hacked.

Perhaps better than any bike-maker, BMW understands Europe's climate of political correctness( it was early with catalyzer exhausts and recyclable plastic bodywork). Last October, warning that continued escalation of hte speed wars might lead to legislated limits or a ban of ultra high performance bikes altogether, BMW officials traveled to Japan. They proposed not a horsepower ban as might be expected from a company that produces just one 100bhp bike, but a voluntary speed cap of 300 kph (186mph).

A subsequent December meeting in Bologna between Japanese and European manufacturers sealed the ZX12's fate. Delegates at that meeting agreed to "freeze and reduce" the top speed of their high-end sport bikes and to "cease competitive marketing strategies with respect to the maximum speed achievable" by those vehicles. By 2001, the agreement stipulates that no stock motorcycle will be capaable of speeds in excess of 299 kph (185 mph) and that " a further step ( in speed restrictions) will be seriously considered." The 250-kph figure that cars now adhere to was suggested.

About to add a 197-mph fan to these flames, Kawasaki was forced into an abrubt about-face. A planned world press introduction was scrubbed while new electronic control units were made up. When the ZX12 finally arrived ( no intro, no fanfare, just, "Here's the bike and don't ask us anything 'cause we don't know") , the altered ECU's made sure the Worlds Fastest Bike would never be. A pity. Shot down by Euro-weenies.

The one silver ray in all this? Savvy speed-tuners, already in the process of changing over from camshafts and degree wheels to keyboards and mircrochips, will soon have a remedy. What the Black Box taketh away, the Black Box can also giveth.

-David Edwards

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these topics abit serious....lets chat abt lighter stuff....where is kumar??when kopi ?i beginning to like that guy...

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Originally posted by Jaws?@May 28 2006, 11:28 PM

the stock conrods can hold up to 300bhp and also heard frm most places dat after market rods tend to have clearence issues gotta grind here and there so i am still sticking wif the stock rods and for the studs best to know bout the torque setting first ba as for valves like wat vyn said ..... unless u have Cams or intend to put in oversized valves the stock ones should be able to hold it ...... i think ..... just read from some guy..... "I dont see the point in studs for the 12 unless you're putting boost on it. Waste of time effort and money" ------ advised by rac4it

advise by racit?i rather trust advise of pasir ris on this..keke...anyway talking about valve..some guys do change to ss valve for insurance...anyway..im not anywr near to any on those mods..i diam diam better...

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Originally posted by Jaws?@May 28 2006, 11:32 PM

Title : Speed Bleed

 

The convoluted case of the zx12's missing mph

 

That hissing sound you hear is the air being let out of Kawasaki's balloon. The mighty ZX12, pride of Akashi, intended to return Big K to its rightful place atop Vmax Moutain, is 10mph too slow. Insult to injury, even with its suspension slammed and a hired gun in the saddle ( see "Factory Flyer," page 46), the 12 is slower through the quarter mile than a stock Suzuki Hayabusa. " Its an embarrassment, " bemoans one frustrated Kawasaki official. What happened?

The ZX-12 ran into a buzzsaw of political correctness and social responsibility, is what happened. There's not a lot of speaking on the record yet, but here's what we know: Last year, a promotional video for the Hayabusa was shot on a two lane stretch of German autobahn. It featured a couple of fast cars steaming along the voluntary speed limit agreed to by most European auto makers, 250 kmh (155 mph). Suddenly, a Suzuki lane-splits the two cars, busting past with an extra 50kph in hand, easy.

Aired extensively, the footage did not sit well with certain European Community legislators, safety-crats and ecologically oversensitive "Greenies," already geared up to rid the world of frivolous personal transportation anyway, especially if the dreaded internal-combustion engine is involved. The Germans and French were particularly hacked.

Perhaps better than any bike-maker, BMW understands Europe's climate of political correctness( it was early with catalyzer exhausts and recyclable plastic bodywork). Last October, warning that continued escalation of hte speed wars might lead to legislated limits or a ban of ultra high performance bikes altogether, BMW officials traveled to Japan. They proposed not a horsepower ban as might be expected from a company that produces just one 100bhp bike, but a voluntary speed cap of 300 kph (186mph).

A subsequent December meeting in Bologna between Japanese and European manufacturers sealed the ZX12's fate. Delegates at that meeting agreed to "freeze and reduce" the top speed of their high-end sport bikes and to "cease competitive marketing strategies with respect to the maximum speed achievable" by those vehicles. By 2001, the agreement stipulates that no stock motorcycle will be capaable of speeds in excess of 299 kph (185 mph) and that " a further step ( in speed restrictions) will be seriously considered." The 250-kph figure that cars now adhere to was suggested.

About to add a 197-mph fan to these flames, Kawasaki was forced into an abrubt about-face. A planned world press introduction was scrubbed while new electronic control units were made up. When the ZX12 finally arrived ( no intro, no fanfare, just, "Here's the bike and don't ask us anything 'cause we don't know") , the altered ECU's made sure the Worlds Fastest Bike would never be. A pity. Shot down by Euro-weenies.

The one silver ray in all this? Savvy speed-tuners, already in the process of changing over from camshafts and degree wheels to keyboards and mircrochips, will soon have a remedy. What the Black Box taketh away, the Black Box can also giveth.

-David Edwards

The good old infamous Gentleman's agreement.. :mad:

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It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable.

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Originally posted by Jaws?@May 28 2006, 11:28 PM

the stock conrods can hold up to 300bhp and also heard frm most places dat after market rods tend to have clearence issues gotta grind here and there so i am still sticking wif the stock rods and for the studs best to know bout the torque setting first ba as for valves like wat vyn said ..... unless u have Cams or intend to put in oversized valves the stock ones should be able to hold it ...... i think ..... just read from some guy..... "I dont see the point in studs for the 12 unless you're putting boost on it. Waste of time effort and money" ------ advised by rac4it

To sum up stock one can hold up pretty well then. :smile: In your case, did you change your fuel pump? I heard the older model's fuel pump insufficient to feed the monster.

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Originally posted by Cybernation@May 29 2006, 12:29 AM

To sum up stock one can hold up pretty well then. :smile: In your case, did you change your fuel pump? I heard the older model's fuel pump insufficient to feed the monster.

yup i changed my pump already for 00 - 01 need to change if going for more then 200bhp but urs is a 02 so no need to change anyway for a stroker when the compression is higher so may be abit harder to start normally, wanna consider a 20v battery mod or a 12v x 2 mod ??

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Originally posted by Cybernation@May 29 2006, 12:10 AM

You helping? From this far hard to help.. Moverover not cheap. The item is nice thou..

maybe we can gather a few more ppl and try and save abit on the shpping fee, how guys ?? calling parsir ris, dennis, kumar, VYN hey vyn call ask mike chia see wan anot hahaha

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Originally posted by VYN@May 28 2006, 11:35 PM

these topics abit serious....lets chat abt lighter stuff....where is kumar??when kopi ?i beginning to like that guy...

Eeeee...

 

i am not in to G@y !!!!!!

 

:faint: :faint:

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Originally posted by Jaws?@May 29 2006, 04:24 AM

maybe we can gather a few more ppl and try and save abit on the shpping fee, how guys ?? calling parsir ris, dennis, kumar, VYN hey vyn call ask mike chia see wan anot hahaha

hey arrange a kopi sexxsion la..

 

no soccer boring now a days ..

 

:sian: :sian:

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yup i changed my pump already for 00 - 01 need to change if going for more then 200bhp but if its a 02 so no need to change anyway for a stroker when the compression is higher so may be abit harder to start normally, wanna consider a 20v battery mod or a 12v x 2 mod ??

 

I think pasir ris did not had batt mod. If he has got no prob with the 12v then i think its probably ok, right? But i know your concern, in the long run just to play safe. :thumb:

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Originally posted by Cybernation@May 29 2006, 01:15 PM

I think pasir ris did not had batt mod. If he has got no prob with the 12v then i think its probably ok, right? But i know your concern, in the long run just to play safe. :thumb:

yup he not doing it but for his bike using the 14v to start but i think for strokers should be better to use 2 12v batteries to start u got the link ??

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jaws are talking about if to change rods for strokers..while i just want to

stroke my rod after jaws bring me to see a $25 instead of the usual $40 deal.

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Originally posted by toapayoh@May 29 2006, 04:22 PM

here ppl not frenly 1

ask me go kopi then tell me to go home coz i ride zuzuki :X

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toapayoh this is ur AWARD with pic

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THANKS

I Dedicate this award to all the ppl who noe me in the circle,

my father my mother my teacher my sister my brother

my wife and kids

especially to vyn who presented this award to me his father his mother

his sister and brothers

12,68,chix rice seng,

.............................

 

later then continue

boss come

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pisss........"u forget to thanks this topic starter jaws? and the outing jioer kumar"......

haha..chix seng will be very happy...

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