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Hi Guys...

Thoose who really fancy about totally new breed of Honda cubs with PGM, this is the bike you should wait for...Will update you with photo soon...Its just started on sale in Thailand...

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honda already has cubs with PGM-Fi liao wot... since like 5 year ago...

'Il rettilineo è una tortura'

 

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oh yah btw.... Certis Cisco already using this bike....

'Il rettilineo è una tortura'

 

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http://world.honda.com/news/2008/c080722Honda-sets-PGM-FI/photo/images/01.jpg

 

CorporateThailandJuly 22, 2008

Honda sets PGM-FI, a green energy saving technology, as the Thai motorcycle standard via the launch of 2 new models

 

BANGKOK, Thailand, July 22, 2008– Honda takes the lead in the motorcycle market by introducing CZ-i 110 and Click-i, the two newest models equipped with advanced PGM-FI technology that will lead to a new riding era. The green technology includes 3 key benefits; fuel economy, lower exhaust emissions and better engine performance. Honda also features “Bie-Sukrit Wisetkaew”, a hot singer as its new presenter for Click-i , the first A.T. model with PGM-FI in Thailand. The company targets sales of CZ-i 110 and Click-i to reach 8,000 and 25,000 units per month respectively.

 

 

“Starting this year, Honda has set a 3-year goal to be “The No. 1 most admired company that is at the forefront of the environmental issue,” said Zenjiro Sakurai, President for A.P. Honda Co., Ltd.

 

He continued, “We have announced the basic policy to the world that all the motorcycles produced and sold in Thailand will be equipped with the advanced PGM-FI technology, which helps reduce CO2 emissions that pollute the air, reduce fuel consumption and enhance engine performance. We are the first company within the Honda group to announce this type of environmental policy in Asia and in Thai motorcycle industry.”

 

With the PGM-FI system, the new Honda motorcycles will have the following attributes; improved fuel economy by 18% (ECE 40 MODE) and ability to use E20 fuel, reduced emissions meeting the Emission Standards at level 6 prior to its official announcement. The emission rate is only 1/5 of the Standards at level 5 and 1/2 at level 6.

 

PGM-FI (Programmed Fuel Injection) is Honda’s patented technology and now in its 3rd generation in the Thai motorcycle market with the first 2 generations of PGM-FI technology applied in the Wave 125i during 2003 and 2005.

 

In the 3rd generation, PGM-FI is controlled by an electronic control unit called ‘the Engine Control Unit’ (ECU) that works together with other advanced engine technologies such as fuel injection, fuel pump, throttle body featuring Idle Air Control Valve (I.A.C.V.), Offset, Heaterless Oxygen Sensor and honeycomb shaped Catalyzer with over 300 cells.

 

Honda introduced 2 new motorcycle models equipped with the PGM-FI system; Honda CZ-i 110 and Honda Click-i. Under the concept of “The New Advanced Basic Commuter for the Next Generation”, Honda CZ-i 110 is the best designed vehicle for urban lifestyles that serves target consumers as a ‘New Buddy for the City Life’. CZ-i is outstanding with its cool sporty look and design on the super sport model of “Compressed Triangle” concept. It also includes a Single Head Light, a multi-reflector light that is built into the front body frame, a compact fin-shaped Front Cowling that reduces drag, a compact meter design with complete instrumentation, a sport engine cover and U-Box, a multi-purpose storage box under the seat.

 

A new stylish rear cowling and foot pegs, a slick black rear grab, oval sport muffler, single-cylinder front disc brakes as well as key shutter, a double layer of protection. After the installation of the PGM-FI system in the CZ-i 4-stroke 110 cc engine, it achieved fuel efficiency of 57 km./liter or a 18% fuel saving over the previous 100 cc model (according to ECE 40 Mode), and 25% better torque.

 

CZ-i 110 comes in 3 different two-tone styles: White Red Solid, Blue Silver Sapphire and Dark Black Silver. It will be sold from 26 July onwards for 36,700 baht during the promotion and for 38,400 baht at its normal price. Sales are expected to reach 8,000 units per month.

 

Honda Click-i is Thailand’s first A.T. model that is equipped with PGM-FI technology and a total new look in robotic style reflecting its unique bodywork. It’s even more sharp with a Ray Duo Head Light, Luminous Meter, Jet Tail Light, large Rear Grab, robot-like graphics, U-Box, Front Inner Box and Key Shutter.

 

Click-i is fully equipped with innovative safety systems such as a Combi Brake that distributes braking power between the front and rear wheels when only the left brake lever is activated, Parking Brake that works the same way as a car’s hand brake preventing the motorcycle from moving even when parked on a slope, Side Stand Switch that causes the engine to shut down as soon as the side stand is lowered to prevent hazards caused by forgetting to pull up the side stand before starting the bike. Additionally, it is a 4-stroke 110 cc engine with built-in liquid cooling which also includes V-Matic Transmission using a long-lasting reinforced steel belt.

 

According to ECE 40 Mode riding tests, it achieves fuel efficiency of 49 km./liter or 16% fuel saving over the previous Click, and 80% lower emissions compared to Emission Standard at level 5.

 

To reflect its modern and cool image, Honda has chosen Bie-Sukrit Wisetkaew, a famous singer-artist, as the new presenter of the Click-i which comes in 2 different series; Click-i Tune-up and Click-i Forward. The first version has a normal wheel type, and comes in 4 colors; Black Mobile Suit, Green Black Kryptonite, Blue Black Atomic, and White Black Space, while the other version has max wheels and the Combi Brake system, and comes in 3 colors; Night Black Armour, White Black Galaxy, and Red Black Destiny.

 

They will be sold from August 6, 2008 onwards. The Click-i Tune-up is 45,700 baht during the promotion and 47,400 baht at its normal price. The Click-i Forward is 49,300 baht during the promotion and 51,000 baht at its normal price. Sales are expected to reach 25,000 units per month.

 

“In order to demonstrate the outstanding quality of PGM-FI technology, we are offering users a 5 year or 50,000 km warranty on the PGM-FI system which includes fuel injection, accelerating pump, Engine Control Unit (ECU), throttle body, throttle position sensor, temperature of the fuel vapor sensor and O2 sensor. Together, we have also trained over 1,428 Honda service centers and 5,919 repair & maintenance centers nationwide on PGM-FI Technology,” Zenjiro Sakurai concluded.

sOOO LONG NEWS.....

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honda already has cubs with PGM-Fi liao wot... since like 5 year ago...

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Yes...I know that..

It's not so much about the 3rd version PGM that Im highlighting..

It's the completely new engine and concept which Honda is introducing..Looks very interesting to me..

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which part of the engine is interesting to you seriously?

 

its just a fuel injected cub that is in THIRD generation....

 

1st generation understandable lah...

'Il rettilineo è una tortura'

 

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Its an entire new engine since the first 125cc (Wave 125) which introduce by Honda in the early 2000 and been used until now on the Wave X. As for me..Im interested to know its improvement or its characteristic of this new engine. Other might think diffrently as its only a cub..

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Actual facts are its is better to use carbs then Fi models for cup kias... reason being cheaper on the servicing and stuffs....

being fuel injected tends to up your fuel intake...

ppl ride cups to safe $$ from petrol not performance or such... you want performance , get bigger bike lor.

MR WHO SAYS;

" YOU THINK YOU ARE THAT FAST MEH? IF YOU THINK YOU ARE FAST, THERE WILL BE ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE (WHO) IS EVEN FASTER THEN YOU... BELIEVE IT!!"http://christiantemplars.com/HULK.jpg

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As technology advance...everything move forward. It's not about performance, its about meeting the international standard. Thats why many countries are now phasing out 2 stroke engine. Most manufacturer are moving toward green engine even for cubs. as for maintenance cost..its not much different in every Honda dealer between a carb or PGM. Else where Im not sure..

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hahaha... nah.. it will cost you more on the serviceing of the fi for cups.... a fren of mine bought the wave-i and had regret it... any way just keeping this thread alive ...

MR WHO SAYS;

" YOU THINK YOU ARE THAT FAST MEH? IF YOU THINK YOU ARE FAST, THERE WILL BE ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE (WHO) IS EVEN FASTER THEN YOU... BELIEVE IT!!"http://christiantemplars.com/HULK.jpg

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hahaha... nah.. it will cost you more on the serviceing of the fi for cups.... a fren of mine bought the wave-i and had regret it... any way just keeping this thread alive ...

 

why ur fren regret in getting it

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Yea..tell us what he's regretting about? It's different story over my side...

 

in any case... y don u start wif ur story first?? :cheeky:

 

anyway no matter a cub using a carb or fi... its stilla kupchai mah...

its stilla bike wif 2 wheels..

unless the fi have 3 wheels la... :lol:

No matter how small the bike you are riding,

If you wanna ride up to somewhere which u desire to go

den sure u can reach. Its jus ur will power oni..

 

 

If you have big head and small BRAINS

Den something is wrong with U

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I've occasionaly borrow my frens 125 Fi and I found it to be smooth even though it's more than 1.5 yr old. According to Honda's report, the current CZi manage to achieve above 40km/l which i think quite good for a cub, certainly lots of imporvement as compare to the previous gen. No major issue or expensive parts change on my fren's bike so far according to him and he use it daily to work. There are plenty of honda dealer here who can perform servicing or majar repairing to this bike, not expensive too. Im refering here in bangkok.

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I've occasionaly borrow my frens 125 Fi and I found it to be smooth even though it's more than 1.5 yr old. According to Honda's report, the current CZi manage to achieve above 40km/l which i think quite good for a cub, certainly lots of imporvement as compare to the previous gen. No major issue or expensive parts change on my fren's bike so far according to him and he use it daily to work. There are plenty of honda dealer here who can perform servicing or majar repairing to this bike, not expensive too. Im refering here in bangkok.

 

ok.. so tat means u r based in bangkok? am i rite...

basically watever issue it is, i believe spore bikes n bangkok bikes a bit diff rite..

i may b wrong la.. plus no matter a Fi or a carb model its still cub..

cubs are meant to b fuel economy n smooth + relax riding... :sweat:

No matter how small the bike you are riding,

If you wanna ride up to somewhere which u desire to go

den sure u can reach. Its jus ur will power oni..

 

 

If you have big head and small BRAINS

Den something is wrong with U

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Yes..ur rite! It suppose to be that way when it was 1st invented or design to serve its purpose. To commute from point A to B in the most economy way. But as time changes and consumer demand better product, cubs become more advance. If Im not mistaken, most honda cub in Sg are from Thailand , so I presume it's the same. Correct me if Im wrong. Malaysia's still assemble their own bike for local. What I saw in Sg, the paint sceme of most cub is the same as thailand's cub.

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40km/L for a cub very normal wot....

 

my carb cubkia can do 40km/L ANYTIME leh.....

 

135cc somemore.... so i think CZ-i is disappointing.

'Il rettilineo è una tortura'

 

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hehehe... the story like this....

 

one morning 2 waves decide to do a carb setting, servicing at the same shop....

the carbs service cost lesser on the s version while the i version cost more and took longer time to finish...

 

anyway...... like chip mentioned it is still a cup and i use mine for transport only and the changes it makes doesnt affect me at all coz cupkias is a transport and economical bike..

 

cheers

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