Close call

[sh3rman]

i was riding on a major road at night..

saw this taxi coming out from minor road at stop line..

his taxi head stuck out abit..

den inch forward den i thought nothing..

so i continue on.. den suddenly...

the taxi accelerate out (obviously nvr check properly)

his 3/4 car was now in my lane so i E-brake..

front wheel slipped and bike fell to ground..

i was fine as i jump off in time..

bike didnt hit the side of cab though..

considered accident??

[sICkbOi-dOt-cOm]

i've met a couple of this dumb drivers... normally i will just abruptly change lane.. blare the horn.. and give a complimentary of the middle finger...

[blackpiper]

High beaming at the cab when the driver was inching out wud have done some good..

[Pplater]

i heard of a case where a phantom rider fishtailed and fell off the bike although no contact was made, when a car moved off from the filter lane and the phantom rider e braked. I think the rider claimed successfully.

 

U might have a case since cabby's error induced you to take evasive measure which resulted in damage to your bike.

 

Do you have his plate number and/or any witnesses' contact number? How bad is the damage to your bike?

[sh3rman]

well.. i didnt get the number plate nor his contact number..

bike didnt have much damaged.. just a scratched signal light and mirror..

i didnt have injuries so i thought no case..

and all happened to fast so the most i could do was horn..

even if i did high beam the driver,

he couldnt have seen it cause i was using stock headlights..

nt very bright..

[Zai TZM]

drag him out of the cabby should be the way..

[phill]

no contact = no accident

 

i used to work in claims department

[sh3rman]

the driver came out.. didnt apologise..

but he asked if i was ok..

so i wasnt tat pissed..

 

 

and really no contact = no accident = no claim?

jus trying to understand for future reference..

[lutein]

http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/Story/A1Story20090220-123419.html

 

No collision, but driver still to blame

 

She cut into a motorcyclist's path causing him to skid and fall off, but drove off.

 

Fri, Feb 20, 2009

The New Paper

 

SHE cut into a motorcyclist's path at the Pan-Island Expressway (PIE), causing him to skid and fall off.

 

Madam Ong Keh Choo drove off, but two motorists who saw the incident gave chase.

 

One of them swerved in front of Madam Ong's car to stop her. They then took her back to the scene where aircraft maintenance engineer Jasbir Singh Mann was injured.

 

Madam Ong was later fined and given nine demerit points for inconsiderate driving over the 4 Feb, 2004, incident .

 

This turn of events was revealed in a recent Subordinate Courts ruling when Mr Singh successfully sued Madam Ong for compensation.

 

District Judge Tan May Tee described the case as unusual.

 

While Mr Singh's motorcycle did not collide with her car, Madam Wong was still held to be 100 per cent liable as she had veered into his path without signalling.

 

Court papers state that Mr Singh was riding along the right lane of the PIE when Madam Ong, who was on the extreme left lane, swerved into his path.

 

To avoid crashing into her car, Mr Singh hit his brakes, which locked the rear wheel of his motorcycle.

 

He fell onto the road, suffering severe injuries.

 

Two Malaysian motorcyclists stopped to help MrSingh, who was warded in Singapore General Hospital for five days.

 

In 2006, Mr Singh sued Madam Ong for compensation, leaving it to the court to assess damages.

 

The two motorists who confronted Madam Ong were not called as witnesses, but Ms Tan believed they were indeed at the scene.

 

Not only did Mr Singh mention the motorists in his evidence, but Madam Ong and her son, Mr James Lee, a defence witness, also referred to them in their testimony.

 

Clear evidence

 

In her judgment released last 31 Dec, Ms Tan wrote that Mr Singh's evidence was clear and consistent even under rigorous cross-examination.

 

This convinced the court that he was a truthful and credible witness.

 

On the other hand, Madam Ong's evidence was contradictory and inconsistent.

 

The judge wrote: "She (Madam Ong) tried to excuse herself from blame on the ground that there had been no contact whatsoever between their vehicles. Her testimony was riddled with inconsistencies and not corroborated by her son in various material aspects.

 

"Her son's evidence in fact corroborated Mr Singh's account. There was no basis to find any contributory negligence on Mr Singh's part."

 

Mr Singh declined to be interviewed when The New Paper contacted him.

 

Damages will be assessed at a later date, pending an appeal by Madam Ong to the High Court.

 

This article was first published in The New Paper.

[Silent Hunter]

Hopefully now more people will know why so many motorcyclist DIED of self skid, and focus more on DRIVERS.

 

Riding a bike is dangerous, mostly because there are LOUSY DRIVERS.

[bryan_LaZY]

http://motoring.asiaone.com/Motoring/News/Story/A1Story20090220-123419.html

 

No collision, but driver still to blame

 

She cut into a motorcyclist's path causing him to skid and fall off, but drove off.

 

Fri, Feb 20, 2009

The New Paper

 

SHE cut into a motorcyclist's path at the Pan-Island Expressway (PIE), causing him to skid and fall off.

 

Madam Ong Keh Choo drove off, but two motorists who saw the incident gave chase.

 

One of them swerved in front of Madam Ong's car to stop her. They then took her back to the scene where aircraft maintenance engineer Jasbir Singh Mann was injured.

 

Madam Ong was later fined and given nine demerit points for inconsiderate driving over the 4 Feb, 2004, incident .

 

This turn of events was revealed in a recent Subordinate Courts ruling when Mr Singh successfully sued Madam Ong for compensation.

 

District Judge Tan May Tee described the case as unusual.

 

While Mr Singh's motorcycle did not collide with her car, Madam Wong was still held to be 100 per cent liable as she had veered into his path without signalling.

 

Court papers state that Mr Singh was riding along the right lane of the PIE when Madam Ong, who was on the extreme left lane, swerved into his path.

 

To avoid crashing into her car, Mr Singh hit his brakes, which locked the rear wheel of his motorcycle.

 

He fell onto the road, suffering severe injuries.

 

Two Malaysian motorcyclists stopped to help MrSingh, who was warded in Singapore General Hospital for five days.

 

In 2006, Mr Singh sued Madam Ong for compensation, leaving it to the court to assess damages.

 

The two motorists who confronted Madam Ong were not called as witnesses, but Ms Tan believed they were indeed at the scene.

 

Not only did Mr Singh mention the motorists in his evidence, but Madam Ong and her son, Mr James Lee, a defence witness, also referred to them in their testimony.

 

Clear evidence

 

In her judgment released last 31 Dec, Ms Tan wrote that Mr Singh's evidence was clear and consistent even under rigorous cross-examination.

 

This convinced the court that he was a truthful and credible witness.

 

On the other hand, Madam Ong's evidence was contradictory and inconsistent.

 

The judge wrote: "She (Madam Ong) tried to excuse herself from blame on the ground that there had been no contact whatsoever between their vehicles. Her testimony was riddled with inconsistencies and not corroborated by her son in various material aspects.

 

"Her son's evidence in fact corroborated Mr Singh's account. There was no basis to find any contributory negligence on Mr Singh's part."

 

Mr Singh declined to be interviewed when The New Paper contacted him.

 

Damages will be assessed at a later date, pending an appeal by Madam Ong to the High Court.

 

This article was first published in The New Paper.

 

 

Motorists should help other Motorists on e road.

Upz for e 2 bikers who give chase and e 2 msian bikers who helped.

[azempire]

these drivers will never ever learn. they though we riders are just some small bug on the road and usually have negative images on us,bikers. not reliazing that they themselve are also one big nasty BUG...

[sh3rman]

damn..i should have taken his car plate number...

i would have been a little richer by now..

[sICkbOi-dOt-cOm]

if think bout gettin richer .. den go ahead and find urself in accidents...

[GuiNNeSS]

Can remember taxi colour and number? That will help.

 

In the event you cannot remember the taxi colour, its number or have some witnesses, hard to even claim from MIB.

[blackpiper]

if think bout gettin richer .. den go ahead and find urself in accidents...

??? gotta be kidding right?

[dinie]

from what i've been told, the next time you encounter that situation, no contact = no accident = highly possible get summoned for self-skid.

[forkie]

damn..i should have taken his car plate number...

i would have been a little richer by now..

 

Even you have the car plate number will not help.

Unless u manage to have a witness to vouch for you in order to have a case.

[three]

if think bout gettin richer .. den go ahead and find urself in accidents...

 

He is the TS, its only right for him to say "damn..i should have taken his car plate number... i would have been a little richer by now.. ".

[Fritz]

Sigh, another blind driver.

[sh3rman]

from what i've been told, the next time you encounter that situation, no contact = no accident = highly possible get summoned for self-skid.

 

u skid also get summon??

[econbizer]

Hey all,

 

Some people have very very extremely bad judgment.

I have encountered this sort of incident several times before, with my 1st being a close call.

 

Usual idiots:

- 1st scenario: Filtering out frm side road (like your case)

- 2nd scenario: Turning right frm opposite direction

 

In both instances, I high beamed to signal my approach, but yet the cars still forcefully accelerate, forcing me to brake.

 

Practice defensive riding by:

- 1st scenario: Slow down, check middle lane if there is any car approaching frm behind & then filter to middle lane.

- 2nd scenario: Slow down & High beam to signal approach.

 

Most accidents happen at junctions. Always slow down when nearing them. It does not matter if we have the right of way when these idiots have such poor judgment. We can protect ourselves through the above defensive riding mtds.

[silverstein1982A]

Once had a similar accident along kranji. heading straight but a toyota wish turn right from a side road 1/4 into my lane so jam brake to minimise the damage. Skidded from my rxz:pity:. Call ambulance, mc for 3 days for multiple abrasion.

 

The driver was faulted with demerit points & fine even though there was no contact. But at least he stop & help. Use the tp letter to claim his insurance for bike repairs & 2k compensation.

[Taklehtido]

u skid also get summon??

 

either 1 of 2 charge TP can slap u

 

1)fail to take proper control of vehicle

or if lets say your tyre burst or brakes not working

2)fail to take proper maintenance of vehicle

 

both charge 6 points i think and $70 or $120

 

my tyre burst on ECP one morning and buang/ LOC with pillion laying in the road luckily no vehicle near... motor kena towed to TP and rider towed to SGH... go to TP make statement for release of bike than kena the summons

 

Lesson learnt .....

[sh3rman]

how come the response so different?

like some people can claim..

others get summon..

are there factors/criteria we need to consider?