sin min ruling is a disgrace

Kenix · April 27, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver..

, not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate!

)

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate

)

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

JackOHJack · April 27, 2009

U know if u guys did a google search... u can probably find other articles relating to this. Allow me........

She held her hand to her face in shock.

Mr Pattiselanno still requires crutches till today; more than 2 years after the fatal accident.

She insisted she did not know that the lights were against her.

And here are 2 posts from 2 bloggers.
http://anonymousxwrites.blogspot.com/2009/04/of-michelle-lim-mdm-lim-hong-eng-gets.html
http://bigtalksingapore.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/shin-min-daily-news-editor-got-1-day-jail-for-causing-accident/

From http://www.mycarforum.com
http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2637298
http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?showtopic=2474754&hl=

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com

/index.php?showtopic=2637271&st=0 -

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver..

, not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate!

)

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate

)

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

Please keep things away from politics.

bigfeet · April 27, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

neng · April 27, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

jB · April 27, 2009

A lady driver beat the red light and dashed past me when I was on my way home just now.

Gal_SGRider · April 28, 2009

got once, we were at a junction in toa payoh on the way home from the swimming pool. my bf's bro was the driver, his wife (pregnant) was beside him, i was behind her, with 2 kids in between and my bf on the far left.

when the light turn green, we moved off.. pretty slowly.. suddenly we saw a red car dashed out of the side junction (red light side), we jammed brakes but she still hit us, then she went a large wide turn and ended up on the pedestrian area at the traffic light behind us nearly hit a pedestrian.. (lucky the guy jump and ran away)..

when we went over and ask that (china) woman wat she doing.. she keep saying dunno wat happened.. dunno dreaming of wat..

http://thumbp1.mail.vip.sg1.yahoo.com/tn?sid=1649632786&mid=AH9zbHwAASZnSfZmnwyy3n823Zk&partid=2&f=763&fid=Sent

Edited April 28, 2009 by Gal_SG^Rider

bernardk · April 28, 2009

got once, we were at a junction in toa payoh on the way home from the swimming pool. my bf's bro was the driver, his wife (pregnant) was beside him, i was behind her, with 2 kids in between and my bf on the far left.

when the light turn green, we moved off.. pretty slowly.. suddenly we saw a red car dashed out of the side junction (red light side), we jammed brakes but she still hit us, then she went a large wide turn and ended up on the pedestrian area at the traffic light behind us nearly hit a pedestrian.. (lucky the guy jump and ran away)..

when we went over and ask that (china) woman wat she doing.. she keep saying dunno wat happened.. dunno dreaming of wat..

Wat the fug???? DUNNO WAT HAPPEN???? Knn car's fault lor like that....

joey_sfb · April 28, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!
I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim
2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)
3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)
4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)
5. Andy Li
6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)
7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)
8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)
9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)
10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)
11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)
12. Nelson Chua
13. Shawn Tai
14. Elizabeth Tay
15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)
16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)
17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)
18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)
19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)
20. Warren Tuan
21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)
22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)
23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)
24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)
25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )
26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)
27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)
28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)
29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)
30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)
31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)
32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)
33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)
34) Austin Lim
35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)
36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)
37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)
38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)
39) Joe Huang
40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)
41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)
42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)
43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)
44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)
45) Muhammad Azman
46) Derek
47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.
48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )
49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)
50) Simon Tay
51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)
51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)
53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)
54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)
55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)
56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)
57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)
58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html
)
59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)
60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)
61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)
62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)
63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)
64) Bro_Isk (
http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0
-
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html
)
65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)
66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)
67) fz6blackie
68) Desmond Tan
69) JunXian
70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!
71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )
72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!
73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)
74) Mohamad Razi
75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)
76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)
77) quikslvr
78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)
79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)
80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)
81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)
82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )
83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)
84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.
85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)
86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)
87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)
88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)
89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")
90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)
91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)
92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)
93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)
94) wendy chen
95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!
96) nigel mok
97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )
98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)
99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)
100) Gentoro
101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )
102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)
103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)
104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)
105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )
106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)
107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)
108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )
109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)
110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)
111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)
112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )
113) Wee chong (it is too light)
114) Luqman S
115) Nasir Tan
116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)
117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)
118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )
119) Ckchow
120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)
121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)
122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)
123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)
124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)
125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)
126) Charmaine
127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)
128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)
129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )
130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)
131) Lionel Chew
132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)
133) Melvyn Wan
134) Kenix Goh
135) Felicia
136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

JackOHJack · April 28, 2009

A lady driver beat the red light and dashed past me when I was on my way home just now.

got once, we were at a junction in toa payoh on the way home from the swimming pool. my bf's bro was the driver, his wife (pregnant) was beside him, i was behind her, with 2 kids in between and my bf on the far left.

when the light turn green, we moved off.. pretty slowly.. suddenly we saw a red car dashed out of the side junction (red light side), we jammed brakes but she still hit us, then she went a large wide turn and ended up on the pedestrian area at the traffic light behind us nearly hit a pedestrian.. (lucky the guy jump and ran away)..

when we went over and ask that (china) woman wat she doing.. she keep saying dunno wat happened.. dunno dreaming of wat..
http://thumbp1.mail.vip.sg1.yahoo.com/tn?sid=1649632786&mid=AH9zbHwAASZnSfZmnwyy3n823Zk&partid=2&f=763&fid=Sent

Exunctly! We dun need more of such cases, we need to do something to create more awareness! Still updating the list, keep it going!

danielsin2 · April 28, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

tengku · April 28, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

139)Tengku(lets get our rights!!!!)

joepele · April 29, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

139)Tengku(lets get our rights!!!!)

140) Joepele

Suede · April 29, 2009

If only JUSTICE BAO was around......

Yongster · April 29, 2009

I'm surprised only 140 riders feels that the ruling on the Sin Ming Editor case is too light....... More people view the garage sales section at times.....

Kenneth.C · April 29, 2009

I'm surprised only 140 riders feels that the ruling on the Sin Ming Editor case is too light....... More people view the garage sales section at times.....

u just need to tell 5 friends (not on SBF) about this. and each of these 5 friends (hopefully) will tell another 5 friends and each of those 5 friends will go on and (hopefully) tell another 5 friends......... Word of mouth.

Silent Hunter · April 29, 2009

I think it's because there are not enough people in SBF...

When I told my students about it a number of them wanted to sign, but they underage cannot...

XanChi · April 29, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

112) Yuan Feng ( å¤©ç†ä½•åœ¨?? )

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

139)Tengku(lets get our rights!!!!)

140) Joepele

141) XanChi (Simply injustice and ruthless)

BigDogs · April 29, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

139)Tengku(lets get our rights!!!!)

140) Joepele

141) XanChi (Simply injustice and ruthless)

142) Kamal (Too long have we been knocked down and killed innocently with minimal punishment to those ****ers)

raptor0x · April 30, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

139)Tengku(lets get our rights!!!!)

140) Joepele

141) XanChi (Simply injustice and ruthless)

142) Kamal (Too long have we been knocked down and killed innocently with minimal punishment to those ****ers)

143) Martin Ma (So much for being a democratic society)

FW1314A · April 30, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Shawn Sim

marzocchi · April 30, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

139)Tengku(lets get our rights!!!!)

140) Joepele

141) XanChi (Simply injustice and ruthless)

142) Kamal (Too long have we been knocked down and killed innocently with minimal punishment to those ****ers)

143) Martin Ma (So much for being a democratic society)

144) Shawn Sim

145) Chong Chie Hui

Kenneth.C · April 30, 2009

im listening to the news on channel 5 now. the holland V stripper couple kena fine $2000. what does that say? walking around naked in public is as serious as killing someone on the road?

stanco · April 30, 2009

im listening to the news on channel 5 now. the holland V stripper couple kena fine $2000. what does that say? walking around naked in public is as serious as killing someone on the road?

2 person fined $2k? or 1 person $2k each?

if is the former... means it's only half as serious. if it's the latter, means you are right.

JackOHJack · April 30, 2009

im listening to the news on channel 5 now. the holland V stripper couple kena fine $2000. what does that say? walking around naked in public is as serious as killing someone on the road?

2 person fined $2k? or 1 person $2k each?

if is the former... means it's only half as serious. if it's the latter, means you are right.

:faint: bikers' live not even worth a couple take off their clothes.

haowy · April 30, 2009

A flawed system that has made a "last minute" mistake, plus an extremely lenient penalty -- is the system making drivers more complacent road commuters? Also, added to the fact that most of them themselves think car insurance and the ability to make damage claims are sorry excuses to be bolder on the road?

You've got my name on the list too, brother!

I've read the posts on motorcycling safety and thank the efforts of all bikers who try to make our safety a priority.

However am i the only one who thinks this is all for nothing when the law does not protect motorcylists? I am referring to the infamous sin min editor who had her sentence reduced to 1 day's jail for killing a pillion rider and permanently maiming the rider. what kind of a message does that send out? that our lives are not worth protecting? if i did not read incorrectly it also does not mention if her 10 year ban from driving was upheld. so does this mean she's free to drive again? and is SPH still employing her, a dangerous and reckless driver?

I would like to write in to the media with some support from bikers here, for those who have lost friends and relatives to drivers like this and also to highlight the injustice in this case.i am sick and tired of being at the mercy of these road killers. kindly attached your names below. thank you.

1. Roy Lim

2. Derick Tay (helped a biker who kanna hit and run, to date, the driver have yet to be caught)

3. Darren Soh (juz wana show my support)

4. Bernardk (i dun see justice at all too)

5. Andy Li

6. Redzuan (Where's the equality)

7. Patrick ( Its time we voice out)

8. Isaac Ng (Kena hit & run 2008 feb at hougang)

9. JackOHJack - Jackson (If rich fug on bike and van driver "careless", sure driver kenna!)

10. Zongren (Its unfair to the rider, if the rider was a goldwing rider and a lawyer. the SPH lady probably would have been a bankrupt)

11. Chen Yang (They should have told her to take her appeal and shove it)

12. Nelson Chua

13. Shawn Tai

14. Elizabeth Tay

15. Kenneth Cheok (If the m'cyclist was an expatriate on a Ducati, the outcome would have been very much different)

16.AJ(ahh...who gives a fuk about my real name..and i don't give a fuk about the law)

17. Suan Heng (Please request for the Judge's deliberation document to be released in full and posted in a thread on SBF so that bikers can come to a judgement themselves)

18. Ree ( you think you run over a cat/dog huh?!, who knows rider feed the whole family for a living..)

19. Debbie Boey (I hate kayu female drivers, dunno where they wana go, what they wana do and when they wana do it.)

20. Warren Tuan

21. Chris Chua (The first accident i saw was the one on PIE, where a drunkard ran onto the expressway, and in the end caused the death of a rider.. we are already so vulnerable, yet so exploited...)

22. Mervyn Lee (Its time our collective voices ring loud and clear in all corners of our island)

23) Asy'ari (Support the cause)

24) Steven Tan ( V For Vendetta)

25) Alan Tay ( are the authorities doing their best to protect everyone??? )

26) Andrew Ang (farking hell...1 day jail n $2000 fine..telling drivers tat causing death by negligience not serious?)

27) Gurcharan Singh (her F...ing recklesness, a fellow rider dies, and sentence is lighter then ill treating a cat)

28) Jordan ho ( its like saying all rich people/white horses serve 1 day NS and we all LLST?)

29) Jason Lim (Does a motorcyclist's/pillion's life worth so little?)

30) Yuan (does she have something with the judge?)

31) Clarence Lye (is this gonna work?)

32) Vincent Wong (Ya damn unfair..hopfully the dead haunt her..Rich so wat???a life leh)

33) Allen Yu (if its a PAP minister gena hit...guess wats the outcome??)

34) Austin Lim

35) Elton Ng (IF is the $ that makes the world round then can we all here chip in $ to hire the best lawyer to return justice?)

36) Luke Ng (If the old man who was hit was Lee Kwan Yew, and the woman kill was MM's grand daughter, you think she kena Max sentence or not. By the way Telecom records showed that she (The driver) was calling her son around the time of the accident)

37) Jenson Lim (Being a new rider and benefiting from the forums here, I strongly felt there is a need to reassess this case...justice for all...)

38) Adi Suffian (i really think her 1 day in jail is not in a cell but in some cosier place for her to clock her day)

39) Joe Huang

40)Han (There's ought to be more justice than a 1 day wayang jail term!)

41)Iswandy (What if it was the judge's daughter??You think he would have handed down the same sentence?!)

42) Seah Meng Hwee (I don't think a 1-day jail and her "10 year ban from driving was upheld" is justifiable for the accident she had caused and the life lost. You mean to say our lives is just worth "a day's jail"?? Since she cannot handle a vehicle well, she should be banned from driving/riding of ALL classes for LIFE!!!)

43) Azman (Prove to the society that justice in singapore is indeed blind. Prove to us that there is still hope left for the mortal people of this country and prove to us that it is not the social standing nor the position of the person in the stand but just another human being facing his/her punishment for causing a life lost thus sentence him/her wisely. Else indeed speculations are correct and don't you dare accuse us of heresy everytime we make this statement.)

44) Yan MN (notice the power that be are more linient to society elites?remember kidney trading?remember the mediacorp artistes?chey...shame on you all!)

45) Muhammad Azman

46) Derek

47) DannyII (was green light for me to continue to cross the junction, theres this china cyclist cross when is red man and in order to siam him i jam brake and skidded, he say that in china we always cross like that and vehicles will stop for us. DAMAGES: 1)Bike(SP) condition jiat lat, 2)Abrassion on me everywhere and only pay me $5.

48) Jerrick Chew ( Sentence is even lighter than stealing, and right now you are really stealing a life. HARSHER PLS )

49) Armofpeace (anything for a good cause and also for all of the bikers here in Singapore)

50) Simon Tay

51) Fritz (A big joke seriously, life's a big joke huh)

51) AsHaRiE (They will surely sing a diff song if its their own child that died)

53) Walter Lim (The Law needs to be more transparent and fair, the sentence is reduced by too much. btw i am not a rider)

54) Stephen Lim (is it because of motorcyclist pay lesser for road tax? justice?? i don't se any)

55) Royston Cheng (A practice of double standards shown, is there any justice?)

56) Mizi (Where's JUSTICE?)

57) Noorizat ( In rememberance of 2 dear frens gone by hit-n-run cases)

58) Vemon Lu (saw the news at

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_365240.html

)

59) Kyler Tan (some people got left out, managed to recompile the list)

60) Dani (support for the cause. to hell with f**king reckless road useless)

61) Willie (We also got pay money to use the road.. fuk those reckless drivers!)

62) Eric (Negligence is not a defence,normal citizen life are cheap..)

63) William (Riders/Drivers,all are human being,doesn't mean riding bike is lower class)

64) Bro_Isk (

http://www.mycarforum.com/index.php?...c=2637271&st=0

-

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ry_364979.html

)

65) Kelvin Yong ( It's not how much monetary compensation she can afford to give to charity.... It's how much punishment she gets from the law.... Obviously, it's not enough)

66) Darny (WHY DO THE GAHMENT SPARE THE ELITES AND EXPATS?WHY???ARE WE NORMAL CITIZENS THE LOWER CLASS?)

67) fz6blackie

68) Desmond Tan

69) JunXian

70) hann >> I agree wholeheartedly!

71) Andy - ( Give us a gun and see what we can do in order to protect ourself from your stupid law )

72) Zenn Goh Y.C - Does the law exists for the rich? Is there no justice? What a shame!

73) Mark Ong (WTF sia...)

74) Mohamad Razi

75) Huang wen yuan ( wheres justice ?)

76) Jocelyn Teo (she should be jailed longer, its a life we are talking bout)

77) quikslvr

78) zamani (my KSR is small but it doesn't mean drivers can bully me on the road! Eff to road bullies!)

79) Gabriel Ng (Hope this really helps)

80) Alif (the law doesnt seem to be applicable to the rich; i believe its time for us to stand up to this communist system)

81) Corrine Ng (on behalf of my Dearest Departed Friend XiaWei)

82) Mr Wong ( A Life is being Lost here )

83) Koon ( My wife was hit by a lady driver, who knows if its the same person??, lucky she survived, driver only got away with a fine, should have a harsher sentence, support putting them off the road)

84) tonychan(this is unfair)a life is just gone by careless.

85) Benny Huang (I hope LKY is the rider and and his son is the pillion. See wats the outcome then!)

86) Jon Tan (totally sadden and furious)

87) koh marco ( very sad to know she only get 1 day jailterm, where is justice? IS SINGAPORE A SAFE ROAD TO RIDE OR DRIVE?)

88) Neubronner ( Sg is just showing that it is corupt as other countries when money and fame is involved)

89) adesmond2 (If that's the case, someone killed someone and stated, "I'm sleepwalking")

90) alvin8787(helped a biker to do a witness who kanna hit under the mandai flyoverby a taxi which denial he break the red light and engage a lawyer last year.)

91) Bambi18(My cousin is still a vegetable because of Hit N Run)

92) zeke uchiha (Lady driver.., not being sexism but its the truth)

93)Hirman(damn screwed up man dis sh*t)

94) wendy chen

95) Irwan aka Otai (Tis is 4 u bro, Arwah Mas Nasruddin (Al-fatihah, R.I.P), departed while on duty by a wreckless cab DRIVER!!

96) nigel mok

97) saLem77 ( arent we paying road-taxes like those f**krs whu drives??? )

98) Vellavan (is a life worth only 12k ? ..i wish i can mount a baseball bat or hockey stick on my bike ..so i can play road rash with taxis and inconsiderate drivers that almost cost most riders life)

99) Chow Ji Sin (Might as well make the rider uncle pay for scratching her SUV)

100) Gentoro

101) Ervin Chua ( Wat?? Tok on HP + rushing for late spa appt resulting in knocking down the uncle n nv do anything?? yet blamed for failing to see traffic light??? i nv failed to see traffic lights while riding pass whitley everyday!!!! is she blind!! )

102) matbikerz84 aka Shabrie ( what can i say, riders are always to be blame by drivers... especially taxi drivers)

103) Ming Toh (mktoh) (utterly disgusted.)

104) Muhammad (I feel that the fine and jail term is too low as she has taken an innocent life)

105) WingZer0 (What kind of justice is this? Hope her loved ones get the same fate! )

106) Roland Chua (Totally disappointed by the system which handled out the sentence & the driver)

107) Chris Inuki (just revoke her la.. and the judge as well.. and her lawyer as well..)

108) Wee Li (Definitely a flawed system,may she and her family suffer the same if not worse fate )

109) Koh YC (Karma will strike her back if no justice done)

110) Bryan (Hope the family stays strong. And hope this thread gets to some Samaritans Organisations / Charity to helpout the victims. TOUGH TIME DON'T LAST, TOUGH PERSON DO)

111) Kaiwei (Kangaroo court)

113) Wee chong (it is too light)

114) Luqman S

115) Nasir Tan

116) Sheep (Justice is blind.. damn ironic in this case.)

117) Roid Kay (Curse her flatten by drunk trailer)

118) ChinSunYung ( think this case not treated seriously )

119) Ckchow

120) Daming (I have never seen before such an unreasonable and unfair sentence in my life)

121) Ismahadie (can we do a convoy to pass the petition to relevant ppl)

122) Wangiles ( was in the cab when saw a malaysian rider fall due to a alcohol carton dropped from lorry. Cars didnt stop. Stop taxi, helped the guy and direct him to 24hr clinic. Guess what, the taxi driver dun bother to stop meter. Meter kept running. Sigh. From a $5 affair till $15.)

123) Jeevan (law made by the elite for the elite)

124) Vincent Kam(where is justice!?!?)

125) Rauff ( hope to get more fcuk face off the road)

126) Charmaine

127) Douglas Chiang (riders are not 2nd class citizen!!)

128) Lim Cheng Hong (my bad... din see the last post...)

129) Azmil ( this is inhumane ... bikers are humans too ... )

130) De Yang (Ignorance is not an excuse for killing someone, it is time we put these people out of the road)

131) Lionel Chew

132) Fazdli aka Fastlee84 (victim of a red light beating A-Hole, myself)

133) Melvyn Wan

134) Kenix Goh

135) Felicia

136) Heremy

137) Joey Ho (Cases of ppl beating red light has increased, witness two incidents at Killnery road.)

138) Daniel V (Gotham city seems to be a better place. As least there's batman to save us)

139)Tengku(lets get our rights!!!!)

140) Joepele

141) XanChi (Simply injustice and ruthless)

142) Hao

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