Yamaha TZM 150 Riders

[QuoVadis]

Originally posted by DeViLiSh@May 4 2005, 10:48 PM

cyborg

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carb=carburetor. u see a T-shaped component in between ur block and ur airbox, with MIKUNI embossed on it? that's ur baby. hohosaint has explained what it is for. let me add that it consists of metering circuits (pilot jet, mainjet, slide valve, needle jet, float) that controls how much fuel/air/2T mixture enters ur cylinder to be burnt. how is it controlled? ur throttle.

 

bro, all my servicing are done here in SG. mostly under my blk. for full svc i frequent HUA CHIN over at Midview Bldg @ Bt Batok Crescent. actually e prices quoted are near market value.

 

block is a local slang for cylinder. block is where ur spark plug sticks out from e top. in e block is ur piston. combustion occurs in e block. block is made up of 2 separate parts, top n bottom, separated by a metal gasket. e term "topblock" is a slang used to refer to e top part, or cylinder head, as mentioned by hohosaint. a lot of carbon sticks to e inner surface of the topblock and piston surface, esp for someone who uses budget series petrol n 2T like me hehehe. to de-carbonise is simply to remove carbon by proper means. like wat hohosaint has described about decarbonising e exhaust pipe. i'm not sure how e bike shop decarbonises e topblock n piston surface, i just leave my bike there for an hour n go off for makan.

 

QuoVadis

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e only problems u may experience from frequent decarbonising is financial problems, hehehe i decarbonise every 6 mths cos i use JB's Caltex octane 97 (green pump) petrol and ah boy's $2 Unicorn 2T. this combination leads to more improper combustion which leads to higher carbon buildup. if u use SG's 98 or even better VPower, and fully-synthetic 2T, carbon buildup will not be as bad as mine. maybe u'll only need to decarbonise once a year. remember, cheap=more maintenance. expensive=less maintenance, not no maintenance. u fail on these rules n ur bike will fail, which equals to MAJOR maintenance

 

speedkills

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cck to la salle mtbatten, that's roughly 30km. so u want a sportsbike, preferably either a tzm, mito or aprilia. so ure a teacher, that means u have solid finances. but u still wanna go for economy, comfortability, practicality and glamour. i'd say a Yamaha TZM 150, whaddya say guys???

 

get a YAMAHA TZM 150!! :cheer:

 

But dont get it at ALBERT...

[MiLeNkO]

devilish ur milage is super >.

i can only hit 200 hai...

aahhaa

[speedkills]

hahaha... ok=) join u guys soon man...now only at stage 3...ahahahaha... a little way more to go..but dun think will take long... by then can we organize another TZM outing?!! ahhaa.. any specific things to look out for in buying a bike? hmmm...when i buying maybe can ask alittle more... meanwhile..... you guys ride safetly while i chiong for my license...hohoho... eh if i bring bike into jb change to one seater...should i spray first or change seat first then spray? the latter makes more sense lei...hmmmmm and rough estimate price? hee

[MiLeNkO]

neway putting leds on my bike now.

 

done already:

shine on meter

 

tml will be doing:

light emiting from fairing

and undertray? to shine on rear tires..

 

heh hope everythings goes well!

[speedkills]

wow..light emiting from fairing sounds fierce.....blue led lights? i wan some on my license plate next time man..wonder if thats legal...

[hohosaint]

Originally posted by QuoVadis@May 5 2005, 01:17 AM

 

get a YAMAHA TZM 150!! :cheer:

 

But dont get it at ALBERT...

:lol:

[hohosaint]

Originally posted by wan_xtc@May 4 2005, 11:31 PM

to speedkills, if u after, economy, practicality, glamour, go for CBR 150.

 

Mito is not as problematic as you guys think. Only its parts are slightly more expensive.

 

If doing normal servicing like wash carburettor, clean valve, change gear oil, prices are similar to all 2b sportsbike.

Ya... Just like DESMOSEDICI zac does... No bikes are problematic... Depends on individual likings.

[PB1]

Originally posted by KerplunkZ@May 5 2005, 01:12 AM

Looking For TZM !!! Any Lobang ? Looking For Fp-FS Plate.

u should try WILL MOTORS @ bedok industry

i saw 2 TZM there:cheer:

[MiLeNkO]

white led's brighter hahaha

neway every bike, be it italian or japanese, has its own characteristics.

so its just a matter of getting used to it

 

2 people may have the same model from the same year, same mods

but the power of each bike will still be different

[hohosaint]

Originally posted by MiLeNkO@May 5 2005, 09:36 AM

white led's brighter hahaha

neway every bike, be it italian or japanese, has its own characteristics.

so its just a matter of getting used to it

 

2 people may have the same model from the same year, same mods

but the power of each bike will still be different

Yes... Because of the factory process make always different... wahaha... Thats why two stock bike... there will be one slighly faster than the other one.

 

Well... Thats quality.

[QuoVadis]

hmm.. informative.. i didnt know that. btw wat would happen if ur sprocket happen to be old and need a change?

[hohosaint]

Originally posted by QuoVadis@May 5 2005, 05:05 PM

hmm.. informative.. i didnt know that. btw wat would happen if ur sprocket happen to be old and need a change?

Imagine when your spocket teeths become sharpen... What will happen?

[QuoVadis]

Originally posted by hohosaint@May 5 2005, 05:11 PM

Imagine when your spocket teeths become sharpen... What will happen?

[hohosaint]

Originally posted by QuoVadis@May 5 2005, 05:37 PM

see show? haha...

[hohosaint]

Well... All new tzm bikers.

 

PLEASE bear in mind that when you are clearing your valve. Meaning ramming your high rpm at high speed. REMEMBER! Do not close your throttle straight away. It will cause piston seize... Ram your throttle from high to mid to low till your bike reaches acceptable speed.

 

This is to allow the piston has sufficient lubricant before your mixture returns to original shape.

[QuoVadis]

Originally posted by hohosaint@May 5 2005, 06:36 PM

Well... All new tzm bikers.

 

PLEASE bear in mind that when you are clearing your valve. Meaning ramming your high rpm at high speed. REMEMBER! Do not close your throttle straight away. It will cause piston seize... Ram your throttle from high to mid to low till your bike reaches acceptable speed.

 

This is to allow the piston has sufficient lubricant before your mixture returns to original shape.

[RedHare]

Originally posted by hohosaint@May 5 2005, 06:36 PM

Well... All new tzm bikers.

 

PLEASE bear in mind that when you are clearing your valve. Meaning ramming your high rpm at high speed. REMEMBER! Do not close your throttle straight away. It will cause piston seize... Ram your throttle from high to mid to low till your bike reaches acceptable speed.

 

This is to allow the piston has sufficient lubricant before your mixture returns to original shape.

I did have this experience before n my pistol seize...

[QuoVadis]

piston seize? wats tt.. wakwkawk ..

[speedkills]

wad happens when piston sieze? ok...quite chim.....you mean when i am at 7rpm....if i wanna lower gear..i dun do what bbdc teaches to close trottle straight away? sry...noob here....

[QuoVadis]

always follow wat bbdc teachers.. its not like u know ur at rpm 7 on ur bbdc bike. btw i dont think u can even reach there right? circuit riding only mah.. sommore what hohosaint said i dont think applies to 4 strokers..

[DeViLiSh]

Originally posted by hohosaint@May 4 2005, 03:18 PM

Carburetor is the place where your air, 2t and fuel premix in before the reel valve release and go into the engine. upon the crank moves, the piston moves down and the fluids comes in and move up till it reaches the plug. It fires and the crank moves down and it will go to the exhaust.

Sorry bro, something to point out. 2T is not mixed in e carb. only air n petrol does. in a TZM, 2T is directly fed into e cylinder walls. Route of 2T is as follows: from e 2T tank ---> 2T pump ---> YCLS ----> metered 2T goes into cylinder, excess 2T goes back to 2T tank.

 

wan_xtc ----> cbr150 got glamour meh?

 

Milenko ---> i've seen ur bike up close before, fully stock. i therefore suspect that u can only hit 200 km/full-tank cos ure using rear sprocket 49. more petrol is consumed when u hit off from gear 1 with a flying pickup start. n as u rev at every gear, u feel a sudden burst when u hit rpm 4~5. u consume extra petrol for ur powerful pickup. cruising at a 100 u should be in rpm 6. i'm doing 110 at 6. so we both use e same amt of petrol but i cover 10km/h more than u. i've found my desirable rear sprocket to be size 45. been swearing by it for 2 yrs now. for a stock bike, size 45 gives u a good balance between pickup n distance. but i guess every rider has his own pref.

 

speedkills ---> u do one-seater 1st then spray, like duh hehehe

 

quovadis ---> piston seize happens when there's not enuf 2T to lube e contact between e piston rings n e cylinder wall. imagine romping a girl who's extremely dry, n u dun have KY on hand. in e cylinder, ur piston goes down (compression stroke) n up (combustion stroke) n down n up n down n so on. your 2 piston rings does e job of sealing e combustion chamber to maintain pressure as well as prevent air, petrol or 2T to leak into the crankcase below. that means at every stroke ur rings follow ur piston up n down e cylinder while rubbing against e cylinder walls. 2T is pumped in to lube the contact between e rings n wall n finally gets burnt at e combustion stroke. e faster u rev, e faster e rings move, e more heat n friction generated, therefore more 2T need to be pumped in to lube it good. not enuf lube=seizure/jam due to friction n heat n most likely ur rings will damage ur cylinder walls.

 

for 4 strokers, piston seizure does happen too, although extremely rare. since 4T is used to lubricate e whole engine, failure to change it at e required intervals can result in a piston seizure. so if ever one day ur cbr150 or wave were to seize, give us a ring so we can all meet up, queue up n then one-by-one give u a good well-deserved knock on that lame-brained corkhead of yours.

[speedkills]

hahaha... lame brain cockhead....wad a description....

[QuoVadis]

who me?

[speedkills]

for 4 strokers, piston seizure does happen too, although extremely rare. since 4T is used to lubricate e whole engine, failure to change it at e required intervals can result in a piston seizure. so if ever one day ur cbr150 or wave were to seize, give us a ring so we can all meet up, queue up n then one-by-one give u a good well-deserved knock on that lame-brained corkhead of yours.

 

 

hows ur tzm?

[QuoVadis]

still at workshop.. that salesman is gonna come back form vacation sat, which i am gonna pay him a visit. actually pay my bike a visit. how i wish they would be faster. they havent even given me my documents (ic etc) after 6 days. last wed when i went there, they still havent do the bike yet. knn..