[Discussion] Boxes, Panniers & Saddlebags

[VidaK]

Finally done after 5 hrs and $45 !!

 

In the end had to go planet shift my signals to the rear ... will post pics and write the guide for 2nd hand sidebox buyers to follow hahaha

 

My right side E21 leaked water though when parked just now ... i suspect is 1 of the nut on top of the box cause its like abit rusted...the previous owner also black tape it liao but no use...so any suggestions?

 

silicone!

[ckoonyin]

use silicone........buy those in tube like colgate one or if u plan to use loads, use those 'gun' type also can

 

yea pls post the pics as i am planning to get side boxes too

[Zhi Ming]

bro ur $45 is for wad things? jus now reach liao call u nvr pick up sms u no reply... btw they have the blinking led tt i wan, but duno find who to install nia haha...

 

Hey joe , paiseh just now i left my HP inside the main box while they fixing my signal light so never noticed u tried to contact me hahaha , yea that hardware shop is really amazing , lucky kev and vidak recommend lol .

 

The $45:

$20 - planet labour charge for shifting the signal lights , though it was stated $10 at the repair thread , dunno why the discrepancy...

$6 - for 4 longer screws for my rack , old ones were 7.8cm which were too short , so had to buy 8.5cm from Ang as recommended by Kev . (will post some pics on them)

$5 for a bottle of WD40

$6 - for 2 L-shaped brackets from the Patricks Hardware shop and

$1.50 for size 13 spanner ( that is used for the phantom and box rack)

$1.20 for 8 washers , also bought from the Pat's hardware shop.

 

then $5 is for petrol for 3 days of running around , but now have to go buy the silicone also...

 

yo ckoonyin, yea will take some pics and post tmr evening , today keep raining i also sianz to go down to bike hahaha

[ahcaibiker]

 

but now have to go buy the silicone also...

 

before doing that, i will advise tracing the source of the leak. my e21s does not leak even under heavy rain, riding or stationary.

 

neither i heard of anyone's e21 leaking thus far.

[VidaK]

bro ur $45 is for wad things? jus now reach liao call u nvr pick up sms u no reply... btw they have the blinking led tt i wan, but duno find who to install nia haha...

 

well... its a DIY shop after all... so... why not wire them up yourself? you will get to know your bike a lot better...

[Zhi Ming]

before doing that, i will advise tracing the source of the leak. my e21s does not leak even under heavy rain, riding or stationary.

 

neither i heard of anyone's e21 leaking thus far.

 

hmmm ok , bathroom test later then

[kmjoe]

well... its a DIY shop after all... so... why not wire them up yourself? you will get to know your bike a lot better...

 

need guidance, later i kill my own bike also duno... lol... intend to just use bicycle blinking led sua =x

[VidaK]

need guidance, later i kill my own bike also duno... lol... intend to just use bicycle blinking led sua =x

 

a very simple wiring diagram for you:

 

live terminal of the battery > separate fuse > switch > LED > ground / neutral terminal of the battery

 

remove your seat, the battery would be exposed.

 

you would need cable ties and black tape to organise the wiring... these two are your best friends from now onwards...

 

all these materials can be found in bigger hardware shops or sim lim tower

 

so what you need:

 

lots of wires (maybe those $0.60 per meter ones would be enough for LED)

cable ties

black tapes

wire lugs (of various types, to connect to switches, battery, and to connect between wires)

fuse (10A or 15A)

fuse holder

switch

your LED

 

if you need to reply to this post... quote it and reply on the chit chat thread instead since we are getting off topic here!

 

enjoy your first mission

[ckoonyin]

just curious, if we go to LAB or regina to do it, their installation would including shifting of ure hazard lights too?

[VidaK]

just curious, if we go to LAB or regina to do it, their installation would including shifting of ure hazard lights too?

 

hmmm... you can try ask first... not too sure of that now...

[Zhi Ming]

Things to do to fix on 2nd-hand side-box:

 

The first thing is equipment list, you will need:

-Sideboxes, rack and 4 brackets. Refer to "rackside" picture for rack/brackets.

Check with your seller if his riding cruiser style bikes, if he is , chances are the rack+brackets should suit your phantom.

-1 x Size 13 spanner to remove/install the rack screws.

-1 x 6mm Allen Key to also remove/install the rack screws

-8 washers , 4 on each side , 2 for each screw

-2 "L" brackets for the signal lights. Check with Planet if they want you to get your own or if they have stock.

-4 screws for the rack. This is needed ONLY IF your original screws are not long enough to accomodate the extra bracket width. For example , my old screws were 7.8cm and they were too short. I had to get 8.5cm screws.

 

Procedure:

 

#1) Make your way to planet and ask chong that you want to shift signal lights. If chong say he got , then lucky you. If not , refer to #2. It took 1 hour for the mech to shift the signal lights and it costs $20.

Directions to Planet : http://www.rednano.sg/sfe/allsearch.action?allsearch=true&view=map&querystring=planet

 

#2) Make your way to Patrick Hardware. Purchase size 13 spanner ($1.50) , 8 washers ($1.20) and the 2 L-brackets if chong told you to. I bought them $6 for 2 pieces , but too long so planet mech had to cut them , you should get a shorter bracket , it will cost lesser too. The holes are too small , but the holes are fixed diameter , so just get the bike mech to drill them. I brought along my own 6mm allen key , buy if you dont have it.

Refer to "Signal lights" picture to see the "L" brackets.

Directions to Patrick Hardware : http://www.rednano.sg/sfe/map.action?querystring=Patrick%20Hardware&uuid=951754853&zipcode=400302&txt=%3Cstrong%3EPatrick+Hardware%3C%2Fstrong%3E+%3Cbr%2F%3E++Blk+302+Ubi+Ave+1++++%3Cbr%2F%3E+01+-25+Singapore+400302

 

#3) Along the same road , just 1 min down, you will see Ang Hoe Seng Hardware. Buy the 4 screws here if your original ones dont fit. They cost me $6 for 4pcs x 8.5cm screws. Remember to remove your own rack beforehand to check the length you need !

Directions to Ang Hoe Seng : http://www.rednano.sg/sfe/allsearch.action?allsearch=true&view=map&querystring=ang+hoe+seng

 

#4) Finally proceed back to Planet , get the mech to shift the signal lights , and install the racks yourself. I am not sure how much chong will charge you if you ask him to install the racks for you. Btw , the mech who helped me was the tall china guy , so you might want to look for him next time since he is "experienced" with shifting signal lights. My own DIY took me 2 hours because my screws could not go in and it took me 1hr+ trying to think of ways ! then i finally found out the nut is actually located on the inside of the rear fender , which you can see if you view from the bottom , must try to push up/down the fender to get the screw to be inline with the nut. After i found this out , i managed to screw in within 5 mins lol.

 

Phew , finally done lol. 1 more thing is , the boxes are protruding but are not as wide as the handlebar nor mirrors , so its quite safe. Refer to "bikefront" picture to see it! I also kiasu went to measure lol , the box edge-edge length is 80cm and the mirror edge to edge is 86cm , so you got 3cm clearance on each side. As long as your mirrors clear , there should be no problem weaving in traffic. But still , take things slow yea , slow and steady = cool-looking

 

Ok enough typing , check out the pics !

[ckoonyin]

Things to do to fix on 2nd-hand side-box:

 

The first thing is equipment list, you will need:

-Sideboxes, rack and 4 brackets. Refer to "rackside" picture for rack/brackets.

Check with your seller if his riding cruiser style bikes, if he is , chances are the rack+brackets should suit your phantom.

-1 x Size 13 spanner to remove/install the rack screws.

-1 x 6mm Allen Key to also remove/install the rack screws

-8 washers , 4 on each side , 2 for each screw

-2 "L" brackets for the signal lights. Check with Planet if they want you to get your own or if they have stock.

-4 screws for the rack. This is needed ONLY IF your original screws are not long enough to accomodate the extra bracket width. For example , my old screws were 7.8cm and they were too short. I had to get 8.5cm screws.

 

Procedure:

 

#1) Make your way to planet and ask chong that you want to shift signal lights. If chong say he got , then lucky you. If not , refer to #2. It took 1 hour for the mech to shift the signal lights and it costs $20.

Directions to Planet : http://www.rednano.sg/sfe/allsearch.action?allsearch=true&view=map&querystring=planet

 

#2) Make your way to Patrick Hardware. Purchase size 13 spanner ($1.50) , 8 washers ($1.20) and the 2 L-brackets if chong told you to. I bought them $6 for 2 pieces , but too long so planet mech had to cut them , you should get a shorter bracket , it will cost lesser too. The holes are too small , but the holes are fixed diameter , so just get the bike mech to drill them. I brought along my own 6mm allen key , buy if you dont have it.

Refer to "Signal lights" picture to see the "L" brackets.

Directions to Patrick Hardware : http://www.rednano.sg/sfe/map.action?querystring=Patrick%20Hardware&uuid=951754853&zipcode=400302&txt=%3Cstrong%3EPatrick+Hardware%3C%2Fstrong%3E+%3Cbr%2F%3E++Blk+302+Ubi+Ave+1++++%3Cbr%2F%3E+01+-25+Singapore+400302

 

#3) Along the same road , just 1 min down, you will see Ang Hoe Seng Hardware. Buy the 4 screws here if your original ones dont fit. They cost me $6 for 4pcs x 8.5cm screws. Remember to remove your own rack beforehand to check the length you need !

Directions to Ang Hoe Seng : http://www.rednano.sg/sfe/allsearch.action?allsearch=true&view=map&querystring=ang+hoe+seng

 

#4) Finally proceed back to Planet , get the mech to shift the signal lights , and install the racks yourself. I am not sure how much chong will charge you if you ask him to install the racks for you. Btw , the mech who helped me was the tall china guy , so you might want to look for him next time since he is "experienced" with shifting signal lights. My own DIY took me 2 hours because my screws could not go in and it took me 1hr+ trying to think of ways ! then i finally found out the nut is actually located on the inside of the rear fender , which you can see if you view from the bottom , must try to push up/down the fender to get the screw to be inline with the nut. After i found this out , i managed to screw in within 5 mins lol.

 

Phew , finally done lol. 1 more thing is , the boxes are protruding but are not as wide as the handlebar nor mirrors , so its quite safe. Refer to "bikefront" picture to see it! I also kiasu went to measure lol , the box edge-edge length is 80cm and the mirror edge to edge is 86cm , so you got 3cm clearance on each side. As long as your mirrors clear , there should be no problem weaving in traffic. But still , take things slow yea , slow and steady = cool-looking

 

Ok enough typing , check out the pics !

 

 

thanks for the detailed writeup

 

makes me more confident to do it myself. perhaps i can try to DIY too:thumb:

[Guest B_E_N]

sorry for the delay, as i promised to post the photo of the so call absorb water de thing.

was very busy working.. no time surf forum.. haha

[kmjoe]

o.o this works? hmm might consider it... thks alot

[Guest B_E_N]

Ya it's work....

But it's wear off fast... after every heavy rain sure need change liao

[madman]

i got one last pc of saddlebag anyone wants? sms me ok...

[kangwei89]

i went down to LAB the other day, they had 2 brands of side boxes. One is the Givi E21 i think, going for 180 with installation. I saw another sidebox (looks super cheapo) going for only 120. I prefer the givi, but its so damn ex.. =( Anyone using the cheaper one?? Good?

[VidaK]

i went down to LAB the other day, they had 2 brands of side boxes. One is the Givi E21 i think, going for 180 with installation. I saw another sidebox (looks super cheapo) going for only 120. I prefer the givi, but its so damn ex.. =( Anyone using the cheaper one?? Good?

 

you have got to be kidding... the price of the e21 is very reasonable... and they should last long and serve you well...

[kmjoe]

i went down to LAB the other day, they had 2 brands of side boxes. One is the Givi E21 i think, going for 180 with installation. I saw another sidebox (looks super cheapo) going for only 120. I prefer the givi, but its so damn ex.. =( Anyone using the cheaper one?? Good?

 

get the givi... dun get the cheapo one... believe me u will regret if u get the cheapo one... a quality one is just $60 away, go for it...

[ckoonyin]

yea...just got mine done @ LAB for $180.

 

U should see the amount of abuse that the GIVI side boxes can take.

 

u can ask pureice and razali how did their boxes helped save their skin and yet the damage sustained on the boxes i would say is pretty minor.

Edited April 22, 2010 by ckoonyin

[pureice68]

yea...just got mine done @ LAB for $180.

 

U should see the amount of abuse that the GIVI side boxes can take.

 

u can ask pureice and razali how did their boxes helped save their skin and yet the damage sustained on the boxes i would say is pretty minor.

 

Yup, go for Givi E21, no regrets!

[Guest B_E_N]

go for saddle bags.. no regrets.. hahah

lol, aiya up to indivisual whether wan to get which 1 la..

[pureice68]

go for saddle bags.. no regrets.. hahah

lol, aiya up to indivisual whether wan to get which 1 la..

 

Haha bro, you confusing him lah! He's considering between Givi and a cheapo brand for side box! Haha... The reason why I'd chosen Givi side boxes over saddle bags is bcos of the waterproof problem. I've checked around and many of the the saddle bags have waterproof problems.

[Guest B_E_N]

Haha bro, you confusing him lah! He's considering between Givi and a cheapo brand for side box! Haha... The reason why I'd chosen Givi side boxes over saddle bags is bcos of the waterproof problem. I've checked around and many of the the saddle bags have waterproof problems.

 

its the same thing for saddle bag la.. -_- cheapo and the so call branded de wat..

if u get cheap cheap 1 of coz it wun be good wat.. -_-

so many of my friends use saddle bag nvr heard any complain from them leh..

so dun coz of some cheapo 1 den say that saddle bag all have waterproof problems

[kmjoe]

er... yea.. but than i still feel the givi better leh even thou i using saddle, haha... if u wan cosmetic go for saddle if u wan practical go for e21 since can remove, its ezier to clean ur bike, i kno there's removable saddle bag in the market but not sure about their price... but since he deciding either cheapo box or e21, go e21... dun poison him la ben, later he more confuse haha