p-plate help

[drak3st3r]

i and my 2 other friends were at lim chu kang tryin out bike ah.....then one of our guys bike broke down so we all stop at one unused bus stop..i was tryin to fix my friend bikes when 2 tp on bike happened to pass by then saw us on siren and parked beside us and asked wad happen la.then i said wadeva happen except the bike tryin part.they check licence and all the things.then he came to my bike ask where ur p plate.then i said front is there but my back is under my seat.he ask why then i said mine very loose so drop.i now fix my friend bike then my friend go shell buy scotch tape for me so i can fix it back.then he kept sayin my problem ah my problem ah.i kept tellin him for wad i put the front p plate then might as well dun put both.then he say he gonna book me for p plate ready...this is my second time smmore..i try to explain and ask him not to but him keep sayin my prob ah..then say die loh....get revoked and juz walk off...now my question is the tp didnt see me ridin my bike without plate..my bike was stationery engine off and cool. i put the p plate under my seat coz i scared later lost. so can i appeal sayin this. also i explain to him my friend will help me get the stuff so i fix it then take bike and go...do any of u think i stand a chance...

[drak3st3r]

sorry for makin like a compo ah but i really stress liao takin my car smmore now....arghhh

[FW1314A]

good luck.

[bluesurfer]

wat ever it is. i feel that singapore police are not very friendly man. they just cant talk properly. is there anyway we can raise this problem up? they are civil servant so if wanna talk about ranks and power, they shld be protecting us but from the way they talk, as if all of us are convicts and we own them a living.

[drak3st3r]

yeah man...if i not at fault confirm tok back ready sia...and lucky becoz i didnt tok back i found out today i had to oni pay 120 fine...now i wonderin if i shud appeal coz nsf ah...nt enuff money

[crazydj]

yeah man...if i not at fault confirm tok back ready sia...and lucky becoz i didnt tok back i found out today i had to oni pay 120 fine...now i wonderin if i shud appeal coz nsf ah...nt enuff money

 

Bro. Seriously if i were you, i would just pay the $120 ah. It could be worse you know. Second time you could have gotten your licence revoked.

[Blackbeard]

display your p plate big big, teach you a lesson

[drak3st3r]

i thinkin of appealing coz i feel its injustified..the tp didnt even catch me while ridin noe.my bike was stationary by the roadside.i explain friend go get scotch tape he dun believe.smmore i nsf not enuff money ah...

[shunoski]

Didn't caught you when riding without a P-plate, then how you get the bike there? with a lorry? Whose fault? TP everyday listen to people trying to bargain their way out, you can expect them to not give a hoot and go strictly by the book.

 

Now just a fine for a repeat P plate offense which could cause you your licence, and you still wanna argue about it. What more do you want? Bring this issue to court and the fact is you are not displaying the Plate, regardless it was loosen previously, or 'help' was on the way.

 

Just suck thumb and pay up, and hope there's no further actions taken against you. Else you can enrol at your nearest driving centre for lessons once more.

Edited July 13, 2009 by shunoski

[nightsteed]

Hmm.. never know p-plate issue can be so serious... i never put before.

 

Now very tempted to buy a pair and put for the fun of it.... 400cc with p-plate... hehe.

[IvikaRazI]

i thinkin of appealing coz i feel its injustified..the tp didnt even catch me while ridin noe.my bike was stationary by the roadside.i explain friend go get scotch tape he dun believe.smmore i nsf not enuff money ah...

 

 

Didn't caught you when riding without a P-plate, then how you get the bike there? with a lorry? Whose fault? TP everyday listen to people's trying to bargain their way out, you can expect them to not give a hoot and go strictly by the book.

 

Now just a fine for a repeat P plate offense which could cause you your licence, and you still wanna argue about it. What more do you want? Bring this issue to court and the fact is you are not displaying the Plate, regardless it was loosen previously, or 'help' was on the way.

 

Just suck thumb and pay up, and hope there's no further actions taken against you. Else you can enrol at your nearest driving centre for lessons once more.

 

Agreed. Serving NS got nothing to do with the offense. Almost everyone gone thru NS. Last time worst less pay. The offense has been told and written in the law book. Do the crime, pay the $$$.

[crazydj]

Just pay la bro. Should count your lucky stars. Oh you guys got read the news? The police attending to case block the path. Got one guy shout, "Your father road ah?" What the guy didnt realise is that the road is really their father road! Then police working for who sia? Haha.

[ghost04]

P-plate but put under seat...

u r lucky the TP nvr summon u for 2nd time no P-plate, u could lose ur licence for tat.

[skateboy]

being an nsf is not an excuse to say not enough money pay. if not enough money, dun ride in the 1st place!

 

like said, just pay the $120 fine. if appeal not successful, suay suay backfire to revokation of licence, which one do u wan? $120 or revoke? u decide...

[drak3st3r]

guess ill juz pay fine...i no mood to appeal also...juz waiting for letter now

[shunoski]

good decision, I sincerely hope they didn't pay heed that it's a second offense.

[drak3st3r]

ya i guess so...

[ben1112]

drak3st3r, u can appeal. U try appeal say u stop at bus stop BECAUSE P-plate drop, you trying to fix it back. Can't fix, ask your friend to go buy scotch tape. And while ur fren is away u put the p-plate in ur seat and wait for ur fren to arrive.

 

Like that lor...

 

Not ppl money of cos they ask u pay la.. It's your money so why not try appeal. Anyway it is highly unlikely that just because u appeal then they decide to fine u $120 PLUS revoke you one. Either they reduce, waive or remain the same.

 

Btw, u nv buy tzr den wad bike u bought?

[drak3st3r]

tts exactly wad happened...i didnt buy any new bike...i rode my friends bike which i am a subrider...

[zyrofillica]

my advice is tp try to appeal. this isnt a serious offence which will involve the courts and a judge. Only if u refuse to admit fault in a trial that you would be punished with a heavier sentence. For lighter sentences go ahead and appeal. TP will consider your appeal and if good reasons are given. You may be acquitted.

[zart]

u got your letter already uh? they mention pay $120 fine only but actually you 2nd time offence?..

 

not to threaten you but my friend about the same scenario.. he also 2nd time no pplate.. firstly.. a letter arrived mention fine $120.. he was relieved that he only pay fine.. but then 2nd letter came mention he was revoked for a year.

 

just hope you dont receive any letter bout revoke.. anyway just try your best appeal. prepare to gather alot of evidence.. like your friend really going to buy tape..eg receipt. time and date of offence tally with the receipt..

[shunoski]

I rest my case, young man. Let us know the outcome. Go appeal all you want, since your good friends wants you to. We're also talking about responsibility here, how long can you be coming up with reasons and excuses for the troubles you're in. But well, please follow your friends advices and push it away. Ultimately, using their words, it's not their licences or ours, it's yours.

Edited July 14, 2009 by shunoski

[BlackBandit]

I agree with shunoski.

 

You cannot come up with excuses forever if you decide to flaunt the law. If you want to disregard using the P-plate, then be prepared to face the music and not expect leeway to be given to you. There is absolutely no shame in putting P-Plate. All of us went through it before.

[ben1112]

You all don't say like that la. I'm not his good fren, i dont even know him but i know NS pay really cham one.. Last time when i P-plate i also kena caught, but on the spot no excuse. Now TS got abit chance to appeal for lesser fine can try wad.. Whether or not a person chooses to repeat his mistakes, is up to him.

 

And no one is above the law, if he decide to do it third time i guess you guys know wad happens no need say. The system is already fixed, appealing is a person's right, BUT whether or not a person should be let off is the officer's job la huh.. Not anyone here. Dont you think so?

[ghost04]

good luck.