[Discussion] Super Four General Enquiry Thread

[tiku]

Yes I have and quite a few others have done it..but not from Rewitec. Mine is $48.

 

finally ah pek said something.. i was wondering is the nano same as ur nano or nt..LOL

[Ah Pek]

finally ah pek said something.. i was wondering is the nano same as ur nano or nt..LOL

 

LOL!..yes, definitely different and works great. Not sure about the one with Rewitec if it can be added as premixed to fuel but the one I have can. It aid faster to top cyclinder wall coating. Eo change extended over to 6 times over.

[tiku]

LOL!..yes, definitely different and works great. Not sure about the one with Rewitec if it can be added as premixed to fuel but the one I have can. It aid faster to top cyclinder wall coating. Eo change extended over to 6 times over.

 

wahhhh.. 6TIMES???!! so much.. and so much more than wat x1r can do.. wat.. like tat isnt like almost can 3 yr don change eo?? approx 30k km?? woo..

[raven77]

do this first

 

Start the engine early in the morning and touch all the four exhaust pipes coming out of the engine .Are all 4 of the pipes hot??? or maybe one of them not hot??? then change the spark plug for the one that the exhaust pipe is not hot.

 

as i too encountered this before. change out the spolit plug then monitor again.

s4 seldom need to do tuning.

i ride for 3 yrs tune still running fine.

[halfhalf]

Yes I have and quite a few others have done it..but not from Rewitec. Mine is $48.

 

cool can i know more about the product??

[Ah Pek]

wahhhh.. 6TIMES???!! so much.. and so much more than wat x1r can do.. wat.. like tat isnt like almost can 3 yr don change eo?? approx 30k km?? woo..

 

With Rewitec Nano..it's similar too and eo interval is way extended too. Can always check their advertisment for more details.

[Ah Pek]

cool can i know more about the product??

 

It's a Biochemical lube product using Nano technology and a 5 in 1 product as far as it's use for...1) Engine sysytem, 2) Automatic Transmission system, 3) Differentials/Transfer Case System, 4) Power Steering system & 5) Fuel system. Its from USA.

 

It provides a thin composite metal coating as a composite polymer film and for impregnating self-lubricating parts. Only metal and metal surfaces that moves against each other are effected by it. Non flammable provide and non toxic..accidentally swallow also won't die...LOL!

 

In summary, it protects and rebuild metal surfaces for compression gain and provide better lubrication. Premixed with the right blend of eo, its great for older bikes.

[halfhalf]

how much does the treatment cost ? need to find out in detail wad is it all about ..

 

Rewitec has a range of nano coating products for different engine displacement size. For example a super 4 which is 400cc will only require one M1 because it is catered to up to 750cc. For larger displacement bikes like an r1 you can opt to use 2 M1 or get the M2. The Rewitec Nanocoating works individually and does not change the oil characteristic and is free of additives like Ceramics or Telfon. Basically what I am trying to derive at is that Rewitec is not an additive to your engine oil. How it works is that the Rewitec coating concentrate builds a metal silicate layer on the rubbing metal surfaces which enables the coating to restore worn surfaces. The coating process takes place when there is grinding which will produce the metal silicate surface. The metal silicate will than bond with metal when there is frictional energy which is basically heat.Rewitec comes in a gel like form which you need to premix with 40 ml of fresh engine oil of any made and then add in to your bike's engine oil.

Edited December 21, 2009 by halfhalf

[Kioz]

how much does the treatment cost ? need to find out in detail wad is it all about ..

 

hello my friend,

well it cost $180 with installation of Rewitec treatment.

for more info please refer to:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6057973#post6057973

 

yeah tell more of how this treatment is gone bout doing it

 

treatment is easy. just mix it with your engine oil and let wonders work =D

for more info you can refer to:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6057973#post6057973

 

LOL!..yes, definitely different and works great. Not sure about the one with Rewitec if it can be added as premixed to fuel but the one I have can. It aid faster to top cyclinder wall coating. Eo change extended over to 6 times over.

 

well to my knowledge,

Riwitec can't be added as a premix to fuel or anything else as it's not a premix solution.

it is to be applied into your engine oil for treatment. ( Note! even if it's mixed to your EO, it's like oil and water. 2 different things )

i think it's mixed with the Engine Oil mainly because:

In the crankcase of a vehicle engine, motor oil lubricates rotating or sliding surfaces between the crankshaft journal bearings (main bearings and big-end bearings), and rods connecting the pistons to the crankshaft.

for more info please visit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_oil

 

wahhhh.. 6TIMES???!! so much.. and so much more than wat x1r can do.. wat.. like tat isnt like almost can 3 yr don change eo?? approx 30k km?? woo..

 

with Rewitec it's 1 x treatment that can last up to 100 000 km which means you practically only need to invest once unless you plan to keep your bike for many many years.

 

well at the end of the day it's up for individuals to choose la

if you want to know more just view:

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6057973#post6057973

 

it's has everything you need to know.

well i did the treatment and good things must share ma

Edited December 21, 2009 by Kioz

[Ah Pek]

Yes..I'm very much aware of Rewitec product a long time ago since it was advertise here. Because of its price, I have to look for an option at a cheaper cost but with the same benefits. The one I uses is only $48 and the result is great!

 

As far as ratio for premixes with eo are concern, this depend very much of how individual company have their product created..like the one you use is 400cc for 3 litre eo engine and packaging is for up to a 750cc. The one I use can be flexibly premix for just the ratio to eo and in this case, its 30 ml to 40 ml for a 3 litre engine. Moreover, 10 ml can be added to the fuel tank to treat the upper cyclinder for quicker result as it's injected into the clyclinder wall when the bike starts. As this is a 5 in 1 not like what you uses, the ratio uses to other parts varies.

 

There are more product like this when you search the internet than just Rewitec and what I using that uses Nano technology...all does the same thing..as long as it does not use 'particles' such as telfon, graphite, molybdenum or PTFE it should be a 'safe' product to use in wet mesh clutch engine.

 

I don't quite understand why is it that it claim "not an additive"..enlighten me if you can. In definition and from what I see, this products is use in liquidise form..and it's something added to enhance or characterized or produced by addition is already define as an additive. Moreover, as this is an add on as a standalone product to what's already mandatory like eo, it should be an additive..unless if it comes blended with the manufacturer and unknowingly to user but identify as what it contained..ppl never think of the word additive. One example is "ROAR RS"..a fully sync premium eo product with Nano in it that does the same thing we both use. Check it out at http://www.alibaba.com/member/sg104133433.html

 

IMHO...all the best additive that it can provide for the performance of your machine, we have to consider too, the status (like new or old) of the machine and how well it works "overall" and the grade of eo use is of "priority". Use the best additive in the world and blend it with a lousy eo, its Lan-Pa-Par_Lan!

 

If you really want to know more as to what is only available in Singapore to play with "luid engineering"..go to http://www.alibaba.com/ . Do a search under "lubricant" and you be surprised as how much option there are on the market. Have fun :0)

[werdna]

do this first

 

Start the engine early in the morning and touch all the four exhaust pipes coming out of the engine .Are all 4 of the pipes hot??? or maybe one of them not hot??? then change the spark plug for the one that the exhaust pipe is not hot.

 

as i too encountered this before. change out the spolit plug then monitor again.

s4 seldom need to do tuning.

i ride for 3 yrs tune still running fine.

 

yup i have checked... its the inner 1 at the left side. its like totally cold... haha

 

gg to change it later... thanks for all the help

[Ah Pek]

Kioz :"well it cost $180 with installation of Rewitec treatment."

 

OMG...I tot I read it was 38 euros without shipping a long time ago. I met someone who uses Rewitec product who told me he gotdit for $165 or so. There may be price adjustment..am not sure as I have not check their web site.

[Guest johjoh]

It is a must to tune S4 carbs as time goes by, the timing will ran out of tune. fuel and air mixture too rich or too lean at all the 4 carbs. All the 4 carbs must be running at the right fuel/air mixtures to run properly and smoothly.

 

hi bro, so when and how should we know the carb need to tune?

thanks in advance!

[minton]

Hey all,

 

A couple of years ago I owned a CB400SF and sold it to get a larger bike.. I went through a Honda CBR600F, Yamaha R6 and Kawasaki Vulcan 500. Well, I came back to the CB400 - it seems the best bike for living in Korea!

 

One thing about my new bike - it has quite a bit of rusting inside the fuel tank. The bike shop I bought it from said it shouldn't be a problem as they put some of magnets inside.

Does anyone know what size the fuel line from the petcock is? I want to put a fuel filter on there... but not sure what size to get! I'm hoping someone on here can tell me so I don't have to take the tank off the bike to check.

 

Happy to be a Honda rider again ^^

 

Here's a quick photo.. it was imported from Japan a year ago, mid-90's bike but the engine still runs very smoothly - 21,000km on the clock.

[superspeed123]

You will know it when you ride your bike , the bike is not running smoothly , mileage become worse, bike got no power etc. It will depend on bike to bike. As you know, all bikes come out of the factories running lean most of the time to pass emmission test, so if you want better power, the next thing to do is to change the jetting.(Dynojet etc) and the shop will need to fine tune the jetting for your bike to run smoothly.

[hataketweety]

bro can i know where to get the Rewitec treatment done...thanks..

[coldbarrel]

Is there actually a diff?

other than price .. its seem MW price it higher ..

 

some also say MW's one is better quality, ie: harder....

can anyone confirm?

[werdna]

i got it done... its up & running again... but the plug was bursted... nv seen it melt down before but now i did...

 

as for the dynojet, can get it from most places? any gd places to recommand? as im quite idiot in this area

[Kioz]

Yes..I'm very much aware of Rewitec product a long time ago since it was advertise here. Because of its price, I have to look for an option at a cheaper cost but with the same benefits. The one I uses is only $48 and the result is great!

 

As far as ratio for premixes with eo are concern, this depend very much of how individual company have their product created..like the one you use is 400cc for 3 litre eo engine and packaging is for up to a 750cc. The one I use can be flexibly premix for just the ratio to eo and in this case, its 30 ml to 40 ml for a 3 litre engine. Moreover, 10 ml can be added to the fuel tank to treat the upper cyclinder for quicker result as it's injected into the clyclinder wall when the bike starts. As this is a 5 in 1 not like what you uses, the ratio uses to other parts varies.

 

There are more product like this when you search the internet than just Rewitec and what I using that uses Nano technology...all does the same thing..as long as it does not use 'particles' such as telfon, graphite, molybdenum or PTFE it should be a 'safe' product to use in wet mesh clutch engine.

 

I don't quite understand why is it that it claim "not an additive"..enlighten me if you can. In definition and from what I see, this products is use in liquidise form..and it's something added to enhance or characterized or produced by addition is already define as an additive. Moreover, as this is an add on as a standalone product to what's already mandatory like eo, it should be an additive..unless if it comes blended with the manufacturer and unknowingly to user but identify as what it contained..ppl never think of the word additive. One example is "ROAR RS"..a fully sync premium eo product with Nano in it that does the same thing we both use. Check it out at http://www.alibaba.com/member/sg104133433.html

 

IMHO...all the best additive that it can provide for the performance of your machine, we have to consider too, the status (like new or old) of the machine and how well it works "overall" and the grade of eo use is of "priority". Use the best additive in the world and blend it with a lousy eo, its Lan-Pa-Par_Lan!

 

If you really want to know more as to what is only available in Singapore to play with "luid engineering"..go to http://www.alibaba.com/ . Do a search under "lubricant" and you be surprised as how much option there are on the market. Have fun :0)

 

well said:thumb: didn't know there were so many things out there.

well, what i have mentioned was just based on my own understanding from

the product thread & explanation done by the person who did it for me

when i seek for the Riwitec treatment.

will try other products on my other bike to see which is better. =D

 

 

Kioz :"well it cost $180 with installation of Rewitec treatment."

 

OMG...I tot I read it was 38 euros without shipping a long time ago. I met someone who uses Rewitec product who told me he gotdit for $165 or so. There may be price adjustment..am not sure as I have not check their web site.

 

yeah i got a shock too when i saw the price now

cos i did mine quite sometime ago..

and it was around $120

way before this person started a thread here.

 

so far so good for me la still can feel those effects

like what they mentioned until now.

[Ah Pek]

well said:thumb: didn't know there were so many things out there.

well, what i have mentioned was just based on my own understanding from

the product thread & explanation done by the person who did it for me

when i seek for the Riwitec treatment.

will try other products on my other bike to see which is better. =D

 

 

 

 

yeah i got a shock too when i saw the price now

cos i did mine quite sometime ago..

and it was around $120

way before this person started a thread here.

 

so far so good for me la still can feel those effects

like what they mentioned until now.

 

 

Just for conversation and its all IMHO.

 

We all have to understand too that if a product claims what it can and how good it is and for how long it can perform and provide, we too have to consider CAREFULLY...

 

1) Value for money

2) other stuff that it have to work with.

Ref to item (1)

There are other product that provides protection an dperformance though not in coating metal as to rebuild their metal surfaces..for example X-1R, Power-Up..etc. They can be combined with just anything..and very afforable. what I want to say here is that, why spend so much more with other feature of an additive benefits that cost so much more? Like for improve FC and long eo change intervals? Without that extra $$s spend on additive but on petrol instead, much more mileage be clocked (look at it as 'xtra good FC' )and it's worth it with just engine protection.

For example, if I use something like X-1R and a cheaper Nano product that provides coating to worn metal surfaces and gain compression at a lower cost, I get to have better FC and protection in return and yet xtra $$s to spare for that much more extra mileage. Moreover..read item 2 which goes hand in hand...

(2)

We have to consider carefully too the claim of mileage that the added stuff provided.

Say, product X claims that it can provide up to 70k without oil change (save lots of $$$s) with all the advantages of better performance, protection..etc. Now my question is this.."if its true that the product can live up to 70k..but what about the eo used, the mandatory stuff that it has to work with?..can it last till 70km?" As we all understand..there are limits to all eo provision and its purpose, the harder you ride or longer we use it, heat are always produce and the one that breaks down its lubrication properties and vicosity. Regardless of how the added on stuff works and provide and last up to its claim mileage useage, its riding on a dead horse. The eo is out of "commission" at 20k or 30k.

 

Whatever solution one has, IMHO, I guess it best to choose a better eo, how to improve it first and the rest is for enhancement to what the eo can't do. Also to consider what works together without damaging your machine making holes in the pocket.

 

We have to look at all these and come to a compromised.

 

There are plenty of this product out there, competition is good (cuts down $s and monopoly in our favour), takes time and trouble and sometime $s in experiment..but at end of the day when the right stuff is in our engine, we all be happy riders.

[Ah Pek]

Is there actually a diff?

other than price .. its seem MW price it higher ..

 

some also say MW's one is better quality, ie: harder....

can anyone confirm?

 

I personally believe both is good as it uses Nano Technoloy (read about it before thinking that its a product..its not but more a process that enables manufacturer to use what they can't before..like creation of the iridium spark plug ).

 

Its not higher in price, it's much higher!

 

Nobody can tell which is better unless one uses both (have to wait till 100k) The one I'm using is up to 30k but not limited to. But take NOTE here..can your eo last that long? When one claims the other is better, certainly would like to hear from them in an apple to apple comparison.

 

I can't comment on the other as I have not use it, believe it is good!..because of pricing difference, I opt for the others. The one I uses is more affordable. It is also Nano and rebuild the worn metal surfaces and compression gain is felt.

 

With the price at $48, even if I have to change at shorter interval (30k), I feel more comfortable with new eo and a new Nano..the price x2 no doubt..but still half cheaper..compare with that's, I can have four changes

[tiku]

I personally believe both is good as it uses Nano Technoloy (read about it before thinking that its a product..its not but more a process that enables manufacturer to use what they can't before..like creation of the iridium spark plug ).

 

Its not higher in price, it's much higher!

 

Nobody can tell which is better unless one uses both (have to wait till 100k) The one I'm using is up to 30k but not limited to. But take NOTE here..can your eo last that long? When one claims the other is better, certainly would like to hear from them in an apple to apple comparison.

 

I can't comment on the other as I have not use it, believe it is good!..because of pricing difference, I opt for the others. The one I uses is more affordable. It is also Nano and rebuild the worn metal surfaces and compression gain is felt.

 

With the price at $48, even if I have to change at shorter interval (30k), I feel more comfortable with new eo and a new Nano..the price x2 no doubt..but still half cheaper..compare with that's, I can have four changes

 

 

 

i gt noob ques... the eo gets black bcos of the carbon..imagine 3 or 4k nia, the eo so black liao... so if it realli last more than 10k km, isnt eo full of carbon?? can ah pek or anyone gen enlighten me??

 

btw ah pek... i am wondering how much ml of nano did u add in eo? cos im thinking of adding now =P... realli cant wait till the eo expire!!!!! LOL

[Ah Pek]

i gt noob ques... the eo gets black bcos of the carbon..imagine 3 or 4k nia, the eo so black liao... so if it realli last more than 10k km, isnt eo full of carbon?? can ah pek or anyone gen enlighten me??

 

btw ah pek... i am wondering how much ml of nano did u add in eo? cos im thinking of adding now =P... realli cant wait till the eo expire!!!!! LOL

 

The color of the eo does not determine on whether or not the oil is suitable for continued use or if it should be replaced. It is a common misunderstanding that it's dirty and gone bad, thus it means that the color of the eo does not have any say and affect lubrication capability. Most important is always follow the recommended change interval as recommended by the manufacturer. But if you are using two different things like eo at 10km and nano at 30k..yyou have to do something about the eo.

 

Most brand of eo turns very dark brown to black in operation. This is because of contaminates generated by combustion process and soot particles.

 

Good eo is dependent on the quality of the oil, type of fuel (disel makes the eo very black), engine status condition, operating environment, how you use your engine and filtration.

 

With regards to use of Nano and its ratio mixtures, it varies. Some manufacturer would tell you to use the whole bottle for so much off cc engine not stating the premix ratio or others do and some by the litres of eo use. The one I have from USA recommended a ratio of 100:1-1.5..meaning 1litre to 10ml or 15ml of their nano mixed. However do reamember that sligthly less is always better than slightly more but staying with the recommended is the safest.

 

I suggest you wait till your eo expire lah and have it all new..why so kang_chiong...sooner or later, you get your Nano...for now, make your money worth from the last change.

[tiku]

The color of the eo does not determine on whether or not the oil is suitable for continued use or if it should be replaced. It is a common misunderstanding that it's dirty and gone bad, thus it means that the color of the eo does not have any say and affect lubrication capability. Most important is always follow the recommended change interval as recommended by the manufacturer. But if you are using two different things like eo at 10km and nano at 30k..yyou have to do something about the eo.

 

Most brand of eo turns very dark brown to black in operation. This is because of contaminates generated by combustion process and soot particles.

 

Good eo is dependent on the quality of the oil, type of fuel (disel makes the eo very black), engine status condition, operating environment, how you use your engine and filtration.

 

With regards to use of Nano and its ratio mixtures, it varies. Some manufacturer would tell you to use the whole bottle for so much off cc engine not stating the premix ratio or others do and some by the litres of eo use. The one I have from USA recommended a ratio of 100:1-1.5..meaning 1litre to 10ml or 15ml of their nano mixed. However do reamember that sligthly less is always better than slightly more but staying with the recommended is the safest.

 

I suggest you wait till your eo expire lah and have it all new..why so kang_chiong...sooner or later, you get your Nano...for now, make your money worth from the last change.

 

thanks for the explanation ah pek... mayb i should phrase it another way.. i refer to carbon deposition... cos wif the anti friction, the eo life is extended.. so isnt it more and more carbon build up ?something like if a human is placed in a room without air ventilation, slowly co2 will build up till it is very difficult for human to breath(pls don kill me for asking this noob ques)

 

haha.. ah pek ur nano is like magnet keep attracting me... so i was thinking of adding into my current eo ma..heheeh...

Edited December 22, 2009 by tiku

[rockeuez]

Hi Bros,

 

I have a prob with my spec2, i'm unable to set adjust my clock time. Not sure if its spoil? if its spoil,is it able to repair? or i have to buy a new meter?

 

Can sm1 pls enlighten me?

 

Thanks

 

Thanks.