Investment Talk

[Throttle]

actually, i did anticipate possibility of sh*it coming, so decided to be more conservative. but didnt think it would be that drastic. Dubai has been leveraging a lot in recent years especially in properties. overexpanding is the road to a downfall. Prior to this, it had also scared the market with fears of inability to repay. Thats where i took interest to monitor the DPworld bond and bot it at 77 in june. By early Nov, i decided that the run up has been too quick and euphoric as Dubai was still highly geared so advised all my friends and we got out of DP world bond at 96 when it was bright and cheery. Not being too greedy has prevented me from losing big more than once..... but didnt expent dubai to drop the bomb

Edited November 28, 2009 by Throttle

[endlessloop]

I cleared the table 2 weeks ago and pocketed $80K from investing in blue chips over a period of 5 months.

[contrarian]

but....... we gotta be real. IT's pure liquidity driving the economy now. that simply is NOT sustainable. So govts are trying to make sure that during this period where liquidity is artificially propping up the markets, they start rebuilding things again.

 

slow and steady wins the race, always.

i repeat, always

 

Indeed it's mainly liquidity driven with too much hot money. Hot money comes and goes quickly, so while we cannot tell where the market will go, the risk level is high when the hot money is excessive.

[Throttle]

I cleared the table 2 weeks ago and pocketed $80K from investing in blue chips over a period of 5 months.

 

 

Not too shabby in absolute terms

Well done.

[kmax]

STI -30...

[nkan0]

STI -30...

 

STI @ 3000 + ??

 

IMO, its very difficult.... as there's very strong resistance fibnode @ 2900, unless STI clears that, and stays above, otherwise i wont go long on SG mkts...

 

it seems that there's alot of pep-talk going on, and mkts globally have recovered at least half (if not more) of the sharp sell-down due to the Dubai crisis....

 

what IF Abu Dhabi decides not to help.... ??

 

side-note: really, it seems that the only things Govts nowadays do, is to simply inject liquidity into markets (to "calm" things down)...??? cant they seem to realise that they're just on the way to building up an asset bubble, which would be another big bubble when bursted??? :sian:

 

[cougar]

STI @ 3000 + ??

 

it seems that there's alot of pep-talk going on, and mkts globally have recovered at least half (if not more) of the sharp sell-down due to the Dubai crisis....

 

what IF Abu Dhabi decides not to help.... ??

 

side-note: really, it seems that the only things Govts nowadays do, is to simply inject liquidity into markets (to "calm" things down)...??? cant they seem to realise that they're just on the way to building up an asset bubble, which would be another big bubble when bursted??? :sian:

 

 

 

Wah, i not into fast flipping investing, but what does "injecting liquidity" mean? Example? Is it (fiscal policy) simply manipulate bank interests, impose taxes those sort of thing? Without strong demand fundamentals to stimulate growth?

[Throttle]

Wah, i not into fast flipping investing, but what does "injecting liquidity" mean? Example? Is it (fiscal policy) simply manipulate bank interests, impose taxes those sort of thing? Without strong demand fundamentals to stimulate growth?

 

 

injecting liquidity means basically using monetary policy to increase M1 M2 M3in the system.

thru various ways, cutting rates is one way.

Govt buying bonds is another. this adds weight to the budget and the books of Govts.

 

I'm very sure a big one is coming our direction although i dont know when and I intend to continue taking profits and reducing my overall risk.

 

It's clear that govts around the world are propping up markets.

While fundamentals are improving , they are far from stable.

 

Good luck folks

[cougar]

ah yes, indeed, i view fundamentals from supermarkets, imagine 32" LCD HD now selling for $500 - $700 instead of $1,200 six months ago, the price drops too fast, imagine those people who pays with 24mths instalments for a $3,000 LCD HD??? Squeeze balls liao.

 

I dont know if my style of feeling the market this way is right, but most times i am right. So i feel fundamentals is still bottom end.

[DeusExMachina]

STI @ 3000 + ??

 

IMO, its very difficult.... as there's very strong resistance fibnode @ 2900, unless STI clears that, and stays above, otherwise i wont go long on SG mkts...

 

it seems that there's alot of pep-talk going on, and mkts globally have recovered at least half (if not more) of the sharp sell-down due to the Dubai crisis....

 

what IF Abu Dhabi decides not to help.... ??

 

side-note: really, it seems that the only things Govts nowadays do, is to simply inject liquidity into markets (to "calm" things down)...??? cant they seem to realise that they're just on the way to building up an asset bubble, which would be another big bubble when bursted??? :sian:

 

 

 

No choice I guess. The alternative is to let things fail and die a natural death, and let everyone fall into the great sinkhole.

Only the strong will claw their way back to the surface.

 

While this might be the best long term fix, it is simply not palatable for many.

 

And also, many of those who're rich, powerful and in the know of the due process are making money off this new bubble.

[Throttle]

STI @ 3000 + ??

 

it seems that there's alot of pep-talk going on, and mkts globally have recovered at least half (if not more) of the sharp sell-down due to the Dubai crisis....

 

what IF Abu Dhabi decides not to help.... ??

 

 

Then , we could see another Lehman episode in the making.

[nkan0]

Then , we could see another Lehman episode in the making.

 

EXACTLY!!!

 

I agree fully with this!

 

But the "Manipulators" are still trying to push this mkt further, so as to bring in more buyers( aka suckers).... IMO.

 

[cougar]

so if that's the case its definitely a Www recession, no V.

Edited December 1, 2009 by cougar

[Cardtac09]

Hmmm, todays market seems ok so far...

 

Im looking forward to make my first $100 =D

 

Lol... Tho it feels like peanut compared to you guys... all in tens of thousands..

[nkan0]

so if that's the case its definitely a Www recession, no V.

 

thats what I'm expecting..... but i'm no God....

 

Hmmm, todays market seems ok so far...

 

Im looking forward to make my first $100 =D

 

Lol... Tho it feels like peanut compared to you guys... all in tens of thousands..

 

seems ok... ??? I see the mkt going thru a painful rise this past 2 weeks, its just been in range-bound... when good news, mkts dont really rally, but when bad news, it falls like crazy...

 

ever heard of this saying: "Fear doesn't ride out on a donkey"

 

$100 profits is good, play within your limits

[DeusExMachina]

seems ok... ??? I see the mkt going thru a painful rise this past 2 weeks, its just been in range-bound... when good news, mkts dont really rally, but when bad news, it falls like crazy...

 

ever heard of this saying: "Fear doesn't ride out on a donkey"

 

$100 profits is good, play within your limits

 

 

That's the STI for you.

 

When everyone else rallies, we inch our way upwards. When others drop, we drop with them.

 

What a fuuck-up exchange.

[cougar]

That's the STI for you.

 

When everyone else rallies, we inch our way upwards. When others drop, we drop with them.

 

What a fuuck-up exchange.

 

And cannot short your positions rite? Yup super fuuck up.

[DeusExMachina]

And cannot short your positions rite? Yup super fuuck up.

 

You can short if you want.

 

But I got no balls to do it.

What if I get stuck in the queue before the end of trading day and end up with a naked short?

[Throttle]

naked short then "Terng Kor" lor....haha

[nkan0]

And cannot short your positions rite? Yup super fuuck up.

 

You can short if you want.

 

But I got no balls to do it.

What if I get stuck in the queue before the end of trading day and end up with a naked short?

 

instead of shorting using the traditional way, U can do it thru ETFs & CFDs...

 

[DeusExMachina]

instead of shorting using the traditional way, U can do it thru ETFs & CFDs...

 

 

 

Never did CFD b4. My ebroker doesn't have the option.

Heard it's risky too, esp if you leverage and bet the wrong way.

 

But at least u don't have to close yr position within the day.

Edited December 1, 2009 by DeusExMachina

[nkan0]

Never did CFD b4. My ebroker doesn't have the option.

Heard it's risky too, esp if you leverage and bet the wrong way.

 

But at least u don't have to close yr position within the day.

 

hahahaa... sorry bro, but no offense...

 

everything that has a leveraging effect IS risky... not just CFDs, same for futures & options....

 

well, end of the day, U always have a choice, a choice of how much U wanna leverage...

 

think abt it, if trading forex doesnt allow leveraging, would there still be so many people trading it???

 

[mrlazy]

from 60B deferred payment down 26B structured debts ... waaah so easy to twist here & there. still, i doubt anybody besides those arabs know the real truth

 

whatever, futures are +ve ... have a roaring night ahead

[mrlazy]

Never did CFD b4. My ebroker doesn't have the option.

Heard it's risky too, esp if you leverage and bet the wrong way.

 

But at least u don't have to close yr position within the day.

 

they may give u x3 or x10 lever, but u can still control whether to use the leverage.

[CMYRS]

still sounds risky.

 

investing is nicer if ure risking money u dont have to bet yr life on