[Group] Super Four Non-VTEC Family: PB1 VerR & VerS

[eddicted]

Hi anyone know which motor diam or shop sell 2nd hand rack + box for ver s with installation?

[ahcaibiker]

Check your coolant

 

checked at workshop today, coolant is fine

[ahcaibiker]

what is the price to change tensioner? was quoted $150 at P****t

[dumbcane]

Hi, recently bought a Project Big 1. I am experiencing bad fuel consumption, only about 16-17 km/L. Also, my top speed maxes out at 140-150km/h. I have done the following maintenance:

 

1) Change all 4 carburetor jet and leaky seals

2) Radiator and coolant maintenance (change all radiator hoses, radiator flush)

3) New spark plugs, engine oil and engine filter

4) Clean air filter

 

Ride is smooth and no other issues other than the high fuel consumption and low max speed. Any advice as to what I can do/check to improve the fuel consumption most importantly.

[shunoski]

Change your throttle wrist twisting pattern.

[Ah Pek]

Hi, recently bought a Project Big 1. I am experiencing bad fuel consumption, only about 16-17 km/L. Also, my top speed maxes out at 140-150km/h. I have done the following maintenance:

 

1) Change all 4 carburetor jet and leaky seals

2) Radiator and coolant maintenance (change all radiator hoses, radiator flush)

3) New spark plugs, engine oil and engine filter

4) Clean air filter

 

Ride is smooth and no other issues other than the high fuel consumption and low max speed. Any advice as to what I can do/check to improve the fuel consumption most importantly.

 

Don't change gears too soon..use the upper rpm for each gears...example..stay above 5.5k rpm to 8k rpm from 2nd gear onwards. Clear your exhaust too if there is a lot of black smoke..do till it's clear.

[Au5h]

Don't change gears too soon..use the upper rpm for each gears...example..stay above 5.5k rpm to 8k rpm from 2nd gear onwards. Clear your exhaust too if there is a lot of black smoke..do till it's clear.

 

Hey Ah Pek, you advise me before on the minimum 5.5k RPM before gear change to save fuel. Can't really grasp your technical explanation back then. So... care to explain again? I believe most guys will benefit here.

[Ah Pek]

Hey Ah Pek, you advise me before on the minimum 5.5k RPM before gear change to save fuel. Can't really grasp your technical explanation back then. So... care to explain again? I believe most guys will benefit here.

 

It's already been explain in my previous post..that's is, don't move to the next gear too soon..use the upper rpm. If this you don't understand, I dunno know how else to explain. The other think is clutch in and let your bike road..don't use too much engine braking when coming to a distance stop.

[dumbcane]

Thanks Ah Pek for advice, will follow and monitor consumption. Any technical explanation as to why changing gears in that rev range will help with fuel consumption though?

[Ah Pek]

Thanks Ah Pek for advice, will follow and monitor consumption. Any technical explanation as to why changing gears in that rev range will help with fuel consumption though?

 

You get better momentum and pull for the next lower year ratio for lesser amount in fuel usage when you only need to throttle less..meaning the bike rolls more and lesser fuel use. You oso do not clogged your exhaust and exhaust back compression does not blacken ur eo. Make sure your idling is at least at 1.3k rpm when bikes hot up..this gives better pull off and also better protection for ur upper cyclinder when bike is idling. Hope this is not too technical...cos, can't explain any better.

[eddicted]

Hi guys I jus took over a 98 ver s!

 

But I notice turning right, fork abit wobbly, stability feels diff from turning left.

 

Is there good motor diam near amk for super four? I used to go planet with my cbr150 and UM for my pulsar.

 

Edited: actl is I not used to the weight, fork is good XD

 

Anyways, anyone service their VerS at Speedy motor diam (amk Ave 5 industrial park 2a) b4?

Edited July 19, 2014 by eddicted

[dumbcane]

You get better momentum and pull for the next lower year ratio for lesser amount in fuel usage when you only need to throttle less..meaning the bike rolls more and lesser fuel use. You oso do not clogged your exhaust and exhaust back compression does not blacken ur eo. Make sure your idling is at least at 1.3k rpm when bikes hot up..this gives better pull off and also better protection for ur upper cyclinder when bike is idling. Hope this is not too technical...cos, can't explain any better.

 

Just went to Teck Thye today to rebuild my rear shocks and front fork, feels like a whole new different bike now! Really solid job. Asked David there about my fuel consumption issue. He took a quick look and pointed out that there are 2 'holes' at the side of my carbs, where the air and fuel mix (maybe where the venturi or the throttle valve is), that is moist. He say perhaps my carbs leaking petrol vapours out from there that's why FC so bad. Will get it checked up soon.

[aridj_nich]

Just went to Teck Thye today to rebuild my rear shocks and front fork, feels like a whole new different bike now! Really solid job. Asked David there about my fuel consumption issue. He took a quick look and pointed out that there are 2 'holes' at the side of my carbs, where the air and fuel mix (maybe where the venturi or the throttle valve is), that is moist. He say perhaps my carbs leaking petrol vapours out from there that's why FC so bad. Will get it checked up soon.

Hi,

 

Mind to share what is the cost to rebuild your rear shocks and front forks? It takes how long to repair?

[dumbcane]

Hi,

 

Mind to share what is the cost to rebuild your rear shocks and front forks? It takes how long to repair?

 

Cost will depend on how much work needs to be done and what kind of shocks. My inner shafts were bent so I had to replace that as well. Total front and back below $500.

 

He took about an hour each for front and rear (both) but it depends on how 'cooperative' your parts are because he takes apart the entire suspension. So if he has trouble taking apart certain parts then it will take longer.

[foccacia]

Hi,

 

Mind to share what is the cost to rebuild your rear shocks and front forks? It takes how long to repair?

 

I know someone who can service the rear suspension at $110. He will service it in front of u, show u what it is that he changing. Needs 2 hours to do both sides. He dun do front fork n only do for Superfour

 

 

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[foccacia]

Just went to Teck Thye today to rebuild my rear shocks and front fork, feels like a whole new different bike now! Really solid job. Asked David there about my fuel consumption issue. He took a quick look and pointed out that there are 2 'holes' at the side of my carbs, where the air and fuel mix (maybe where the venturi or the throttle valve is), that is moist. He say perhaps my carbs leaking petrol vapours out from there that's why FC so bad. Will get it checked up soon.

 

How bad was ur FC? Mine is abt 20km/l, I know there r better FC like 23km/l. Is 20km/l bad or just slightly below avg?

 

Can check how much to do the front only? Did mine at JB but I feel the guy din do a good job

 

 

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[foccacia]

Hi guys I jus took over a 98 ver s!

 

But I notice turning right, fork abit wobbly, stability feels diff from turning left.

 

Is there good motor diam near amk for super four? I used to go planet with my cbr150 and UM for my pulsar.

 

Edited: actl is I not used to the weight, fork is good XD

 

Anyways, anyone service their VerS at Speedy motor diam (amk Ave 5 industrial park 2a) b4?

 

After more than 1.5 years of riding Superfour, I still not used to the weight. Many times, I just felt like giving her up but I can't think of any bikes to replace her

 

 

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[confusehaha]

After more than 1.5 years of riding Superfour, I still not used to the weight. Many times, I just felt like giving her up but I can't think of any bikes to replace her

 

 

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S4 weight and posture is quite easy to adapt compare to class 2 sports tourer which are classified as super heavy bike. eg fjr, st1100, st1300.. i use to ride fjr.. that's abt 290kg wet weight.

probably just take some opportunities to push ur bike ard to get use to the weight.

[confusehaha]

How bad was ur FC? Mine is abt 20km/l, I know there r better FC like 23km/l. Is 20km/l bad or just slightly below avg?

 

Can check how much to do the front only? Did mine at JB but I feel the guy din do a good job

 

 

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Price for fork servicing range is from $80-160. different shop charge different price.

$80-85 range will be at bike dynamics and bikeworks.

[aridj_nich]

I know someone who can service the rear suspension at $110. He will service it in front of u, show u what it is that he changing. Needs 2 hours to do both sides. He dun do front fork n only do for Superfour

 

 

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Well, who is this guy if you mind to share to all of us?

 

I am asking Bike dynamic about this service, they mention 1 to 3 days. I can't do that because I need my bike to transport.

[foccacia]

S4 weight and posture is quite easy to adapt compare to class 2 sports tourer which are classified as super heavy bike. eg fjr, st1100, st1300.. i use to ride fjr.. that's abt 290kg wet weight.

probably just take some opportunities to push ur bike ard to get use to the weight.

 

Not the heavy weight that I not used to, I just find the front too light

 

 

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[foccacia]

Well, who is this guy if you mind to share to all of us?

 

I am asking Bike dynamic about this service, they mention 1 to 3 days. I can't do that because I need my bike to transport.

 

Can check with him at 81828022, his name is Weiloong. He dun have shop 1, can contact him for more details

 

I did mine on Sunday morning at 9am, then u can sit in front of him n watch him do. He is very friendly n open to any questions

 

 

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[confusehaha]

Not the heavy weight that I not used to, I just find the front too light

 

 

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i see. if you still prefer street bike, perhaps you can try out fz8 or fz1? They should be heavier on the front.

 

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[foccacia]

i see. if you still prefer street bike, perhaps you can try out fz8 or fz1? They should be heavier on the front.

 

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I prefer 1 that looks nice with box so FZ8 or FZ1 seems like a good choice

 

But m I rite abt Superfour being light at the front? Anyone dun feels so?

 

 

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[wad3v3r]

Anyone knows whether a 5W40 Oil is good enough to be used in singapore's weather and on a ver S?

 

or is it too thin?