Bikers Theological Discussion

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Chapter 10 - Of Effectual Calling

1) All those whom God has predestinated to life, and those only, he is pleased, in his appointed and accepted time, effectually to call, Ro 8:30 11:7 Eph 1:10,11 by his word and Spirit, 2Th 2:13,14 2Co 3:3,6 out of that state of sin and death in which they are by nature, to grace and salvation by Jesus Christ; Ro 8:2 Eph 2:1-5 2Ti 1:9,10 enlightening their minds spiritually and savingly to understand the things of God; Ac 26:18 1Co 2:10,12 Eph 1:17,18 taking away their heart of stone, and giving to them an heart of flesh; Eze 36:26 renewing their wills, and by his almighty power determining them to that which is good; Eze 11:19 Php 2:13 De 30:6 Eze 36:27 and effectually drawing them to Jesus Christ; Eph 1:19 Joh 6:44,45 yet so as they come most freely, being made willing by his grace. So 1:4 Ps 110:3 Joh 6:37 Ro 6:16-18 2) This effectual call is of God's free and special grace alone, not from any thing at all foreseen in man; 2Ti 1:9 Tit 3:4,5 Eph 2:4,5,8,9 Ro 9:11 who is altogether passive in it, until, being made alive and renewed by the Holy Spirit, 1Co 2:14 Ro 8:7 Eph 2:5 he is enabled by it to answer this call, and to embrace the grace offered and conveyed in it. Joh 6:37 Eze 36:27 Joh 5:25 3) Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit, Lu 18:15,16 Ac 2:38,39 Joh 3:3,5 1Jo 5:12 Ro 8:9 who works when, and where, and how he pleases. Joh 3:8 So also are all other elect persons, who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the word. 1Jo 5:12 Ac 4:12 4) Others not elected, although they may be called by the ministry of the word, Mt 22:14 and may have some common operations of the Spirit Mt 7:22 13:20,21 Heb 6:4,5 yet they never truly come to Christ, and therefore cannot be saved: Joh 6:64-66 Joh 8:24 much less can men not professing the Christian religion be saved in any other way whatever, be they ever so diligent to frame their lives according to the light of nature, and the law of that religion they do profess; Ac 4:12 Joh 14:6 Eph 2:12 Joh 4:22 17:3 and to assert and maintain that they may, is very pernicious, and to be detested. 2Jo 1:9-11 1Co 16:22 Ga 1:6-8

 

Chapter 11 - Of Justification

1) Those whom God effectually calls he also freely justifies; Ro 8:30 3:24 not by infusing righteousness into them, but by pardoning their sins, and by accounting and accepting their persons as righteous: not for any thing wrought in them, or done by them, but for Christ's sake alone: not by imputing faith itself, the act of believing, or any other evangelical obedience, to them as their righteousness; but by imputing the obedience and satisfaction of Christ to them, Ro 4:5-8 2Co 5:19,21 Ro 3:22,24,25,27,28 Tit 3:5,7 Eph 1:7 Jer 23:6 1Co 1:30,31 Ro 5:17-19 they receiving and resting on him and his righteousness by faith: which faith they have not of themselves; it is the gift of God. Ac 10:44 Ga 2:16 Php 3:9 Ac 13:38,39 Eph 2:7,8 2) Faith, thus receiving and resting on Christ and his righteousness, is alone the instrument of justification; Joh 1:12 Ro 3:28 Ro 5:1 yet is it not alone in the person justified, but is ever accompanied with all other saving graces, and is no dead faith, but works by love. Jas 2:17,22,26 Ga 5:6 3) Christ, by his obedience and death, did fully discharge the debt of all those that are thus justified, and did make a proper, real, and full satisfaction to his Father's justice in their behalf. Ro 5:8-10,19 1Ti 2:5,6 Heb 10:10,14 Da 9:24,26 Isa 53:4-6,10-12 Yet, in as much as he was given by the Father for them, Ro 8:32 and his obedience and satisfaction accepted in their stead, 2Co 5:21 Mt 3:17 Eph 5:2 and both freely, not for any thing in them, their justification is only of free grace; Ro 3:24 Eph 1:7 that both the exact justice and rich grace of God might be glorified in the justification of sinners. Ro 3:26 Eph 2:7 4) God did, from all eternity, decree to justify all the elect; Ga 3:8 1Pe 1:2,19,20 Ro 8:30 and Christ did, in the fullness of time, die for their sins, and rise again for their justification: Ga 4:4 1Ti 2:6 Ro 4:25 nevertheless they are not justified, until the Holy Spirit does in due time actually apply Christ to them. Col 1:21,22 Ga 2:16 Tit 3:4-7 5) God does continue to forgive the sins of those that are justified: Mt 6:12 1Jo 1:7,9 1Jo 2:1,2 and although they can never fall from the state of justification, Lu 22:32 Joh 10:28 Heb 10:14 yet they may by their sins fall under God's fatherly displeasure, and not have the light of his countenance restored to them, until they humble themselves, confess their sins, beg pardon, and renew their faith and repentance. Ps 89:31-33 Ps 51:7-12 Ps 32:5 Mt 26:75 1Co 11:30,32 Lu 1:20 6) The justification of believers under the Old Testament was, in all these respects, one and the same with the justification of believers under the New Testament. Ga 3:9,13,14 Ro 4:22-24 Heb 13:8

 

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

Edited April 26, 2010 by ChaoPuzzy1968

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Hv been theologically arguing wif Longge, eddy, x00x....

 

e m veri stubborn.... but in d end...sigh..sigh...

 

Always our good Lord speaks to mi in different way..

 

 

i submit!!

 

finally !...you dumb yank! congrates!!

[EddyMeng]

Context in 2 Cor 12:6~7

 

2 Cor 12:6~7

And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. 8 Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me.

 

Pls read 2 Cor 12:6~7 in context. To define “a thorn in the flesh” the immediate answer was in the next phrase “a messenger of Satan”

 

 

If this is NOT clear then look few verses back:

 

2 Cor 11:13~15

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

 

2 Cor 11:4

For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!

 

For me i thank God for raising preachers that teaches the Jesus according to the GOSPEL.

 

Zac, in the meantime ... enjoy your "rojak"

 

Shalom,

Eddy

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Context in 2 Cor 12:6~7

 

 

 

If this is NOT clear then look few verses back:

 

 

Zac, in the meantime ... enjoy your "rojak"

 

Shalom,

Eddy

 

Bruther it's the CD that convert him lah arhdui(pain)

[EddyMeng]

Bruther it's the CD that convert him lah arhdui(pain)

 

Philippians 1:18 (New King James Version)

What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.

 

yah lor ... Zac finished a plate of rojak and maybe moving on to another plate of char kway teow

 

come ... test and taste that the LORD is good

 

Psalm 34:8 (New King James Version)

 

Oh, taste and see that the LORD is good;

Blessed is the man who trusts in Him!

 

For me ... my favourite is - Zion Road "Hallelujah" Char Kway Teow

http://forums.sgclub.com/1079807_post18.html

 

Shalom,

Eddy

Edited April 26, 2010 by EddyMeng

[lunloon]

I've got a question. (First of the many could bes)

 

Regarding "Obey thy parents".

 

If the parents do not want you to go to church, or convert, do you follow the command?

If you still go to church, are you going against the command?

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

I've got a question. (First of the many could bes)

 

Regarding "Obey thy parents".

 

If the parents do not want you to go to church, or convert, do you follow the command?

If you still go to church, are you going against the command?

 

did your parents object to the riding bike??

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

King James Version

 

1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

 

5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

13Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

14I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

16Let not then your good be evil spoken of:

17For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

18For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.

19Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

20For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

21It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

22Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

23And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

 

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

 

14:1-6 Differences of opinion prevailed even among the immediate followers of Christ and their disciples. Nor did St. Paul attempt to end them. Compelled assent to any doctrine, or conformity to outward observances without being convinced, would be hypocritical and of no avail. Attempts for producing absolute oneness of mind among Christians would be useless. Let not Christian fellowship be disturbed with strifes of words. It will be good for us to ask ourselves, when tempted to disdain and blame our brethren; Has not God owned them? and if he has, dare I disown them? Let not the Christian who uses his liberty, despise his weak brother as ignorant and superstitious. Let not the scrupulous believer find fault with his brother, for God accepted him, without regarding the distinctions of meats. We usurp the place of God, when we take upon us thus to judge the thoughts and intentions of others, which are out of our view. The case as to the observance of days was much the same. Those who knew that all these things were done away by Christ's coming, took no notice of the festivals of the Jews. But it is not enough that our consciences consent to what we do; it is necessary that it be certified from the word of God. Take heed of acting against a doubting conscience. We are all apt to make our own views the standard of truth, to deem things certain which to others appear doubtful. Thus Christians often despise or condemn each other, about doubtful matters of no moment. A thankful regard to God, the Author and Giver of all our mercies, sanctifies and sweetens them.

 

ref http://biblecommenter.com/romans/14-5.htm

[EddyMeng]

I've got a question. (First of the many could bes)

 

Regarding "Obey thy parents".

 

If the parents do not want you to go to church, or convert, do you follow the command?

If you still go to church, are you going against the command?

 

1st and foremost, you are quoting scripture for the children; whose parents are already Christian

 

Eph 6:1 CHILDREN, OBEY your parents in the Lord [as His representatives], for this is just and right.

 

Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this is pleasing to the Lord.

 

Hence, if non-believer parents object to them to go church ... one should decide to do the right thing ... which is to go church

 

because if that child becomes a Christian ... then there is hope for that family.

 

my life testimony ...

i was the 1st in my family to become a Christian in 1991 ... my mum in 1993 ... my elder sister in 1996 ... my father in 2007 ... now my whole family was saved

 

i have a wife who is a Christian and since both of us are Christians ... we can show my 12 yrs old son Eph 6:1 and Col 3:20

Edited April 26, 2010 by EddyMeng

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

1st and foremost, you are quoting scripture for the children; whose parents are already Christian

 

Eph 6:1 CHILDREN, OBEY your parents in the Lord [as His representatives], for this is just and right.

 

Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this is pleasing to the Lord.

 

Hence, if non-believer parents object to them to go church ... one should decide to do the right thing ... which is to go church

 

because if that child becomes a Christian ... then there is hope for that family.

 

my life testimony ...

i was the 1st in my family to become a Christian in 1991 ... my mum in 1993 ... my elder sister in 1996 ... my father in 2007 ... now my whole family was saved

 

Father says : ooi you si lang kia !!!! nim pae call you no go chruch you go church...aiyoh christian like that one.....

 

soo how ?

 

fren

do the right thing...

 

Son...says: My fren Jesus say do the right thing so I no hue lan you i still go church , you no song you f*** off ... and you don't believe u go hell

 

.....:faint::faint:

 

or .............

 

If you love the Lord obey the parents, with much love and trembling..asked the Lord...

 

The opportunity will come!

Edited April 26, 2010 by ChaoPuzzy1968

[EddyMeng]

Father says : ooi you si lang kia !!!! nim pae call you no go chruch you go church...aiyoh christian like that one.....

 

soo how ?

 

fren

do the right thing...

 

Son...says: My fren Jesus say do the right thing so I no hue lan you i still go church , you no song you f*** off ... and you don't believe u go hell

 

.....:faint::faint:

 

or .............

 

If you love the Lord obey the parents, with much love and trembling..asked the Lord...

 

The opportunity will come!

 

An example of a real life scenario ... hee hee hee

[lunloon]

did your parents object to the riding bike??

 

I hope my English wasn't so bad that it makes you unable to provide an answer directly to my question.

[lunloon]

1st and foremost, you are quoting scripture for the children; whose parents are already Christian

 

Eph 6:1 CHILDREN, OBEY your parents in the Lord [as His representatives], for this is just and right.

 

Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this is pleasing to the Lord.

 

Hence, if non-believer parents object to them to go church ... one should decide to do the right thing ... which is to go church

 

because if that child becomes a Christian ... then there is hope for that family.

 

my life testimony ...

i was the 1st in my family to become a Christian in 1991 ... my mum in 1993 ... my elder sister in 1996 ... my father in 2007 ... now my whole family was saved

 

i have a wife who is a Christian and since both of us are Christians ... we can show my 12 yrs old son Eph 6:1 and Col 3:20

 

You are right, then i shall use the phrase for adults.

 

"Honour thy father and mother"

 

Are you honoring your father and mother by disobeying them?

[lunloon]

And I believed from the first post this was a discussion thread on theories.

 

Given so, which is more important.

 

Self-cultivation and do what you preach, or hanging a title around your belt but display antics anything but that described by the title?

[EddyMeng]

You are right, then i shall use the phrase for adults.

 

"Honour thy father and mother"

 

Are you honoring your father and mother by disobeying them?

 

Mark 10:19 You know the commandments: Do not kill, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.

Mark 10:20 And he replied to Him, Teacher, I have carefully guarded {and} observed all these {and} taken care not to violate them from my boyhood.

Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking upon him, loved him, and He said to him, You lack one thing; go and sell all you have and give [the money] to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come [and] accompany Me [walking the same road that I walk].

 

The rich young man kept the most of the commandments including honor your father and mother ..... but fail Jesus .

the first commandment is:

Thou Shalt Not Have Any Gods Before Me

(The rich young man loved his wealth ... more than Jesus)

 

if someone has a non-believing parents, they should obey them BUT not to the extend of disobeying GOD.

 

GOD would want that individual to know HIM and have a relationship with him. Honor thy parents does not mean that you that every word they say as a decree

 

most probably you have known that "Honor your father and mother"-- is the first commandment with a promise

 

as both my parents are Christians ... it is so much easier to communication with them now, by the grace of God

Edited April 26, 2010 by EddyMeng

[x_00_x]

But Jesus said, "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."

 

He can help us satisfy both requirements without breaking any of the righteous Law.

 

Isn't this LR's motto ? --> Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

 

On the same note, go to Jesus and He will give us rest.

[edwardlong]

did your parents object to the riding bike??

 

heng ah...this question not directed to me...hehehehe

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

I hope my English wasn't so bad that it makes you unable to provide an answer directly to my question.

 

nope , you england too powerful...

 

next you haven't ask a question , just statement...

 

You are right, then i shall use the phrase for adults.

 

"Honour thy father and mother"

 

Are you honoring your father and mother by disobeying them?

 

this is a statement frame in a question?

 

 

And I believed from the first post this was a discussion thread on theories.

 

Given so, which is more important.

 

Self-cultivation and do what you preach, or hanging a title around your belt but display antics anything but that described by the title?

 

see your england too powerful... eddy will be confuse:faint:

 

 

heng ah...this question not directed to me...hehehehe

 

It the same lah bro ...so can cum to betong or not:dot:

[EddyMeng]

see your england too powerful... eddy will be confuse:faint:

u kong simi

my singland beri tok kong one

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

Chapter 12 - Of Adoption

1) All those that are justified, God vouchsafes, in and for his only Son Jesus Christ, to make partakers of the grace of adoption: Eph 1:5 Ga 4:4,5 by which they are taken into the number, and enjoy the liberties and privileges of the children of God; Ro 8:17 Joh 1:12 have his name put upon them, Jer 14:9 2Co 6:18 Re 3:12 receive the Spirit of adoption, Ro 8:15 have access to the throne of grace with boldness; Eph 3:12 Ro 5:2 are enabled to cry, Abba, Father; Ga 4:6 are pitied, Ps 103:13 protected, Pr 14:26 provided for, Mt 6:30,32 1Pe 5:7 and chastened by him as a father; Heb 12:6 yet never cast off, La 3:31 but sealed to the day of redemption, Eph 4:30 and inherit the promises, Heb 6:12 as heirs of everlasting salvation. 1Pe 1:3,4 Heb 1:14

 

Chapter 13 - Of Sanctification

1) They who are effectually called and regenerated, having a new heart and a new spirit created in them, are farther sanctified really and personally, through the virtue of Christ's death and resurrection, 1Co 6:11 Ac 20:32 Php 3:10 Ro 6:5,6 by his word and Spirit dwelling in them; Joh 17:17 Eph 5:26 2Th 2:13 the dominion of the whole body of sin is destroyed, Ro 6:6,14 and its various lusts are more and more weakened and mortified, Ga 5:24 Ro 8:13 and they are more and more made alive and strengthened in all saving graces, Col 1:11 Eph 3:16-19 to the practice of true holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. 2Co 7:1 Heb 12:14

 

2) This sanctification is throughout in the whole man, 1Th 5:23 yet imperfect in this life; there abides still some remnants of corruption in every part: 1Jo 1:10 Ro 7:18,23 Php 3:12 whence arises a continual and irreconcilable war; the flesh lusting against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh. Ga 5:17 1Pe 2:11

 

3) In which war, although the remaining corruption for a time may often prevail, Ro 7:23 yet, through the continual supply of strength from the sanctifying Spirit of Christ, the regenerate part overcomes: Ro 6:14 1Jo 5:4 Eph 4:15,16 and so the saints grow in grace, 2Pe 3:18 2Co 3:18 perfecting holiness in the fear of God. 2Co 7:1

 

Chapter 14 - Of Saving Faith

1) The grace of faith, whereby the elect are enabled to believe to the saving of their souls, Heb 10:39 is the work of the Spirit of Christ in their hearts, 2Co 4:13 Eph 1:17-19 2:8 and is ordinarily wrought by the ministry of the word: Ro 10:14,17 by which also, and by the administration of the ordinances, and prayer, it is increased and strengthened. 1Pe 2:2 Ac 20:32 Ro 4:11 Lu 17:5 Ro 1:16-17

 

2) By this faith, a Christian believes to be true whatever is revealed in the word, for the authority of God himself speaking in it; Joh 4:42 1Th 2:13 1Jo 5:10 Ac 24:14 and acts differently upon that which each particular passage of it contains; yielding obedience to the commands, Ro 16:26 trembling at the threatenings, Isa 66:2 and embracing the promises of God for this life and that which is to come. Heb 11:13 1Ti 4:8 But the principal acts of saving faith are, accepting, receiving, and resting upon Christ alone for justification, sanctification, and eternal life, by virtue of the covenant of grace. Joh 1:12 Ac 16:31 Ga 2:20 Ac 15:11

 

3) This faith varies in degrees, weak or strong; Heb 5:13,14 Ro 4:19,20 Mt 6:30 8:10 may be often and many ways assailed and weakened, but gets the victory; Lu 22:31,32 Eph 6:16 1Jo 5:4,5 growing up in many to the attainment of a full assurance through Christ, Heb 6:11,12 10:22 Col 2:2 who is both the author and finisher of our faith. Heb 12:2

 

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

[EddyMeng]

Hebrews 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins.

Hebrews 10:21~22 and [having] a High Priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.

Hebrews 10:21~22 tells us that since we have Jesus as our High Priest, “let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience”. What does the writer of Hebrews mean by “an evil conscience”? If you read the beginning of the same chapter, you will find that he is talking about a “consciousness of sins”. (Hebrews 10:2) Paul calls it a “conscience seared with a hot iron”. (1 Timothy 4:2) The Greek word for “seared” here is kauteriazo, and it means to carry about with you a perpetual consciousness of sin.

So don’t carry with you an evil or seared conscience. Your lifetime of sins has already been punished fully in the body of Jesus at the cross. Be conscious, instead, of your perfection and righteousness in Christ. Because of what Jesus has done for you, you can boldly declare, “I am the righteousness of God!”

When our faith is in Jesus and His Finish Work, we will be Jesus-consciousness … which we will have dominion over sin.

Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

 

stop looking at your snake bitten legs and look to Jesus; who took all the punishment for you.

John 3:14 "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up

 

Shalom

Eddy

Edited April 27, 2010 by EddyMeng

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

u kong simi

my singland beri tok kong one

 

your singland is honda cb750 his england is harley davidson

 

louder than you ....

 

he is saying one of this day your son is going to become a muslim because his fren says it's the right thing

 

(lunloon fogive me if i paraphase wrongly)

 

will you go: "xi lang kia , nim pae boot u then you know!":angel:

 

or will you join him and apply newton 3rd law

 

forces work in pair:cheeky:

[NinjaLite]

Hi LunLoon,

 

We r running a series of basic introduction of Christianity.. Its a program called Alpha.

 

Why dun u and ur parents drop in this Wed and come understand more abt what it means to be a Christian and why we Christians go to Church. We r holding it at a cosy Cafe called Barnyard at Smith Street Chinatown every WEd starting from 7pm to 930pm.

 

U will find many questions answered there.

 

Its also a gathering for us bikers ther to chit chat. This Wed will b extra special as ther will b a previewing of soft side bags for bikes

[EddyMeng]

your singland is honda cb750 his england is harley davidson

 

louder than you ....

 

to each his own ... i love HONDA; "HONDA" got 5 letters ... grace grace

my HONDA, by grace grace ... has lambong "ang mo" bike before also some zuzuki bikes too

 

Honda is still my number 1 choice and i am faithful type lor

my previous bike was a honda and was with me for 15 yrs

 

he is saying one of this day your son is going to become a muslim because his fren says it's the right thing

 

No worries lah ... my son is attending a beri good church ... i would say "Best in Singapore, JB, some say Batam"

 

hence, for him to convert to another faith is beri unlikely

can't say the same for other kid that are brought up in "rojak teaching enviroment"

Edited April 27, 2010 by EddyMeng

[ChaoPuzzy1968]

 

No worries lah ... my son is attending a beri good church ... i would say "Best in Singapore, JB, some say Batam"

 

Hence, for him to convert to another faith is beri unlikely

 

OMG he's gonna be gay