Bikers Theological Discussion

ChaoPuzzy1968 · May 11, 2010

You forgot the word Chao...in front of the kuniang.

No lah... i dun deposit my kids here and there....

Just out of curiousity....why you so keen to get me out to Hatyai? If you miss me sooooo much....come to Yishun lah~!

or you trying to get rid of me there?

nope ...i brought the 3 of them to betong thailand ...now your turn

EddyMeng · May 11, 2010

God has a rainbow over his head now, signifying a NO JUDGMENT MENTALITY!! God is pleased with YOU, o child of God!

The mighty angel had (1) a face like the sun (Rev 10:1) â€” Jesus! and (2) was clothed with a cloud and had (3) a rainbow upon his head.

Gen 9:12~13

And God said: â€œThis is the sign of the covenant which I make between Me and you, and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.

Isaiah 54:9~10

â€œ For this is like the waters of Noah to Me;

For as I have sworn

That the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth,

So have I sworn

That I would not be angry with you, nor rebuke you.

10 For the mountains shall depart

And the hills be removed,

But My kindness shall not depart from you,

Nor shall My covenant of peace be removed,â€

Says the LORD, who has mercy on you.

God is saying the rainbow is a sign of the covenant that He will not be angry with us i.e. those who have accepted His son as saviour. God does not have to swear but in Isa 54:9 He swears that He will not be angry with us. We as human beings cannot even swear not to be angry with our own kids. But God can!

The rainbow around Godâ€™s throne and Jesusâ€™ head indicates NO MORE JUDGEMENT

If you erroneously feel Godâ€™s judgment coming on you, know this: Before Godâ€™s throne, judgment flees!

The devil or snake has a forked tongue as he tells half-truths, not complete lies. If bold-faced lies were told, we would detect them immediately. Eg. God is good but you are unworthy.

THROUGH JESUS, WE HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN OF ALL OUR SINS FOREVER. REMEMBER THE RAINBOW! :angel::angel:

x_00_x · May 11, 2010

God is saying the rainbow is a sign of the covenant that He will not be angry with us i.e. those who have accepted His son as saviour.

habis like dat. those who have not accepted Jesus as their Saviour are doomed because God is still angry with them?

EddyMeng · May 12, 2010

habis like dat. those who have not accepted Jesus as their Saviour are doomed because God is still angry with them?

The heart of God:

God does not want any to perish (2 Pet 3:9)

However, judgment will be upon those that reject Jesus

John 12:48 Anyone who rejects Me {and} persistently sets Me at naught, refusing to accept My teachings, has his judge [however]; for the [very] message that I have spoken will itself judge {and} convict him at the last day.

ChaoPuzzy1968 · May 12, 2010

Chapter 29 - Of the Lord's Supper

1) Our Lord Jesus, in the night when he was betrayed, instituted the ordinance of his body and blood, called the Lord's Supper, to be observed in his church to the end of the world, for the perpetual remembrance of the sacrifice of himself in his death, 1Co 11:23-26 the sealing all its benefits to true believers, their spiritual nourishment and growth in him, their further engagement in and to all duties which they owe to him, 1Co 10:16,17,21 and to be a bond and pledge of their communion with him, and with each other, as members of his body. 1Co 12:13

2) In this ordinance Christ is not offered up to his Father, nor any real sacrifice made at all for remission of sins of the living or dead; Heb 9:22,25,26,28 but only a memorial of that one offering up of himself, by himself, upon the cross, once for all, and a spiritual oblation of all possible praise to God for the same; 1Co 11:24-26 Mt 26:26,27 so that Roman sacrifice of the mass, as they call it, is most abominably injurious to Christ's one and only sacrifice, the alone propitiation for all the sins of the elect. Heb 7.23,24,27 He 10.11,12,14,18

3) The Lord Jesus has, in this ordinance, appointed his ministers to declare his word of institution to the people, to pray, and bless the elements of bread and wine, and by it to set them apart from a common to a holy use; and to take and break the bread, to take the cup, and (they communicating also themselves) to give both to the communicants; Mt 26:26,27 Mr 14:22-24 Lu 22:19,20 1Co 11:23-26 but to none who are not then present in the congregation. Ac 20:7 1Co 11:20

4) The denial of the cup to the people, Mr 14:23 1Co 11:25-29 worshipping the elements, the lifting them up, or carrying them about for adoration, and reserving them for any pretended religious use; are all contrary to the nature of this ordinance, and to the institution of Christ. Mt 15:9

5) The outward elements in this ordinance, duly set apart to the uses ordained by Christ, have such relation to him crucified, as that truly, yet figuratively only, they are sometimes called by the name of the things they represent, to wit, the body and blood of Christ; Mt 26:26-28 albeit, in substance and nature, they still remain truly only bread and wine, as they were before. 1Co 11:26-28 Mt 26:29

6) That doctrine which maintains a change of the substance of bread and wine into the substance of Christ's body and blood (commonly called Transubstantiation) by consecration of a priest, or by any other way, is repugnant not to Scripture alone, but even to common sense and reason; overthrows the nature of the ordinance; and has been and is the cause of manifold superstitions, yes, of gross idolatries. Ac 3:21 1Co 11:24-26 Lu 24:6,39

7) Worthy receivers, outwardly partaking of the visible elements in this ordinance, 1Co 11:28 do then also inwardly by faith, really and indeed, yet not carnally and corporally, but spiritually, receive and feed upon Christ crucified, and all benefits of his death:the body and blood of Christ being then not corporally or carnally in, with, or under the bread and wine; yet as really, but spiritually, present to the faith of believers in that ordinance, as the elements themselves are to their outward senses. 1Co 10:16

8) Although ignorant and wicked men receive the outward elements in this ordinance, yet they receive not the thing signified by it; but by their unworthy coming to it are guilty of the body and blood of the Lord, to their own damnation.Therefore all ignorant and ungodly persons, as they are unfit to enjoy communion with him, so are they unworthy of the Lord's table, and cannot, without great sin against Christ, while they remain such, partake of these holy mysteries, 1Co 11:27-29 2Co 6:14-16 or be admitted to it. 1Co 5:6,7,13 2Th 3:6,14,15 Mt 7:6

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

ChaoPuzzy1968 · May 12, 2010

habis like dat. those who have not accepted Jesus as their Saviour are doomed because God is still angry with them?

The heart of God:
God does not want any to perish (2 Pet 3:9)

However, judgment will be upon those that reject Jesus
John 12:48 Anyone who rejects Me {and} persistently sets Me at naught, refusing to accept My teachings, has his judge [however]; for the [very] message that I have spoken will itself judge {and} convict him at the last day.

The Cup is half full:angel: or the cup is half empty:(

G_d save those who wanted to be save and respect the wishes of those who reject Him.

G-d will bear His responsiblity and have to answer for Himself and so will all Man too

Chapter 9 - Of Free Will

1) God has endued the will of man with that natural liberty, that it is neither forced, nor by any absolute necessity of nature determined, to good or evil. Mt 17:12 Jas 1:14 De 30:19 2) Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom and power to will and to do that which is good and well-pleasing to God; Ec 7:29 Ge 1:26 but yet mutably, so that he might fall from it. Ge 2:16,17 3:6 3) Man, by his fall into a state of sin, has wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation; Ro 5:6 8:7 Joh 15:5 so as a natural man, being altogether opposed from that good, Ro 3:10,12 and dead in sin Eph 2:1,5 Col 2:13 is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself to it. Joh 6:44,65 Eph 2:2-5 1Co 2:14 Tit 3:3-5 4) When God converts a sinner, and translates him into the state of grace, he frees him from his natural bondage under sin, Col 1:13 Joh 8:34,36 and by his grace alone enables him freely to will and to do that which is spiritually good; Php 2:13 Ro 6:18,22 yet so as that, by reason of his remaining corruption, he does not perfectly nor only will that which is good, but does also will that which is evil. Ga 5:17 Ro 7:15,18,19,21,23 5) The will of man is made perfectly and immutably free to do good alone in the state of glory only. Eph 4:13 Heb 12:23 1Jo 3:2 Jude 1:24

ref http://mb-soft.com/believe/txh/purconf.htm

x_00_x · May 12, 2010

The heart of God:
God does not want any to perish (2 Pet 3:9)

However, judgment will be upon those that reject Jesus
John 12:48 Anyone who rejects Me {and} persistently sets Me at naught, refusing to accept My teachings, has his judge [however]; for the [very] message that I have spoken will itself judge {and} convict him at the last day.

and the message to the world is ? God is angry with you? Because you didnt accept Jesus as your Saviour?

ChaoPuzzy1968 · May 12, 2010

and the message to the world is ? God is angry with you? Because you didnt accept Jesus as your Saviour?

aiyah he forget to mention that passage is for the Jew onli

EddyMeng · May 12, 2010

and the message to the world is ? God is angry with you? Because you didnt accept Jesus as your Saviour?

The message is :

John 3:16 (New King James Version)

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

As for those that already accepted Jesus as their Saviour, God sworn NEVER to be angry with them (Isaiah 54:9~10)

a beri GOOD GOD hor

Shalom

x_00_x · May 12, 2010

The message is :

John 3:16 (New King James Version)
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

As for those that already accepted Jesus as their Saviour, God sworn NEVER to be angry with them (Isaiah 54:9~10)

a beri GOOD GOD hor

Shalom

The people of that time will be wondering who in the world is Jesus. Isaiah 54 didnt mentioned Jesus at all. And it surely didn't mentioned that God will not be angry with those who didn't accept Jesus on this condition.

God is just to justify the unrighteous. And God is surely not angry with anyone now. The wrath has been exhausted in the body of Christ Jesus.

It is the goodness of God that leads to repentance, not the fear/fright of the Lord.

EddyMeng · May 12, 2010

The people of that time will be wondering who in the world is Jesus. Isaiah 54 didnt mentioned Jesus at all. And it surely didn't mentioned that God will not be angry with those who didn't accept Jesus on this condition.

God is just to justify the unrighteous. And God is surely not angry with anyone now. The wrath has been exhausted in the body of Christ Jesus.

It is the goodness of God that leads to repentance, not the fear/fright of the Lord.

Isaiah 54 was directed to Noah and we are also from Noah lineage ... in a way ... our forefathers are either from shem, ham or japheth

i do agree with you that God is NOT angry with anyone now ... however NOT knowing this truth will give a leeway to satan to work havoc in an unbeliever life.

tt6389 · May 12, 2010

... however NOT knowing this truth will give a leeway to satan to work havoc in an unbeliever life.

All who happens to read this posting, let's pray this Prayer together in unison:-

" Jesus, we praise & thank You for You are the image & love of the invisible omnipresent Father God. You came & died & rose again for our sins, bore our sickness & remove all curses of poverty etc 2000 years ago. We thank You & recieved by faith all that You have done for us. Amen. "

Galatians 3:13-14 - All curses mentioned in Deuteronomy 28 are removed by Jesus .

Matthew 8:17 - He bored all our sickness according to Isaiah 53.

John 3:16 -Jesus died for our sins.

x_00_x · May 12, 2010

Isaiah 54 was directed to Noah and we are also from Noah lineage ... in a way ... our forefathers are either from shem, ham or japheth

i do agree with you that God is NOT angry with anyone now ... however NOT knowing this truth will give a leeway to satan to work havoc in an unbeliever life.

As far as i know, I am a child of God by His grace and the finished work on Jesus. Whichever lineage I come from does not add anything to my standing in His eyes. So one can go on and on about Noah, Abraham, David etc and try to ascertain one's ancestry, its still chasing after the wind. It doesn't matter where you come from, Jesus came to save the world.

The Truth is Jesus and what He has done. All are sinners and fall short of the glory of God. This is the Truth that should be shared, and its the Truth that He loves us so much that He send His only begotten Son to be a propitiation for our sins. And not only ours but of the whole world. (1 John 2). The truth is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

EddyMeng · May 12, 2010

As far as i know, I am a child of God by His grace and the finished work on Jesus. Whichever lineage I come from does not add anything to my standing in His eyes. So one can go on and on about Noah, Abraham, David etc and try to ascertain one's ancestry, its still chasing after the wind. It doesn't matter where you come from, Jesus came to save the world.

It doesn't matter where we come from ???

hmmm, i beg to differ ... there are people quoted as "the sons of the evil one" as mentioned in Matthew 13:38

to me that is a different lineage and they are NOT from Noah, Abraham, David, Shem, Hamburger .... etc

Shalom

Edited May 12, 2010 by EddyMeng

ChaoPuzzy1968 · May 12, 2010

It doesn't matter where we come from ???
hmmm, i beg to differ ... there are people quoted as "the sons of the evil one" as mentioned in Matthew 13:38

to me that is a different lineage and they are NOT from Noah, Abraham, David, Shem, Hamburger .... etc

Shalom

it's ok , jesus was call the evil one too mark 3:22:angel:

but then he's refering to the scribes....

EddyMeng · May 12, 2010

it's ok , jesus was call the evil one too mark 3:22:angel:

but then he's refering to the scribes....

there are mentioned in 1 John 3:10 "the children of God" and "the children of the devil"

which group you belong to huh

edwardlong · May 12, 2010

:box::box:

:slapforehead:

x_00_x · May 12, 2010

It doesn't matter where we come from ???
hmmm, i beg to differ ... there are people quoted as "the sons of the evil one" as mentioned in Matthew 13:38

to me that is a different lineage and they are NOT from Noah, Abraham, David, Shem, Hamburger .... etc

Shalom

Well, you can always pray about it and ask Jesus what does He meant by this "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened."

and have you forgotten this passage which was shared to you?

"The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, [29] To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord." Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him.

as opposed to the actual passage in the book of Isaiah

"The Spirit of the Lord God is upon Me, Because the Lord has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, And the day of vengeance of our God

The Author of the Holy Bible and the One who fulfills the Law stopped after proclaiming the acceptable year of the Law because the vengeance of God is already exhausted on Him.

We dont share the anger of the Lord anymore because it is already finished. We share the Gospel Truth. We inculcate the love of God, not fear.

the thief who died together with Jesus got his ticket to follow Jesus. Wld not what you have been sharing be a loophole then?

x_00_x · May 12, 2010

:box::box:

:slapforehead:

u like to fight hor.

edwardlong · May 12, 2010

you know all this debate can be done over coffee instead of writing ?

u like to fight hor.

Edited May 12, 2010 by edwardlong

x_00_x · May 12, 2010

you know all this debate can be done over coffee instead of writing ?

this is a keyboard warrior competition mah

edwardlong · May 12, 2010

this is a keyboard warrior competition mah

Where is the walking bible? You know who you are~~!! come out~~!

:angel:

EddyMeng · May 12, 2010

Well, you can always pray about it and ask Jesus what does He meant by this "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened."

and have you forgotten this passage which was shared to you?

as opposed to the actual passage in the book of Isaiah

The Author of the Holy Bible and the One who fulfills the Law stopped after proclaiming the acceptable year of the Law because the vengeance of God is already exhausted on Him.

We dont share the anger of the Lord anymore because it is already finished. We share the Gospel Truth. We inculcate the love of God, not fear.

the thief who died together with Jesus got his ticket to follow Jesus. Wld not what you have been sharing be a loophole then?

Different thought lah ... i was referring to "The Two Lineages"

http://brians_annex_ii.tripod.com/briansstudy/twolineages.html

ChaoPuzzy1968 · May 12, 2010

there are mentioned in 1 John 3:10 "the children of God" and "the children of the devil"

which group you belong to huh

if you are the scribe then i belong to the the evil cat.....

Where is the walking bible? You know who you are~~!! come out~~!

:angel:

i at barnyard lah chao ku niang

EddyMeng · May 13, 2010

if you are the scribe then i belong to the the evil cat.....

i SCRIBE huh ...

then you better careful a bit hor ... my pen is mightier than your sword

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