who doesn't squeeze in between cars while riding?

[ohayo]

Wrong answer, I know some forumers and myself who reserve lanesplitting for when some major numbskull doesn't know what a "motorcycle" is and just drives into my lane!

 

Normally I will follow the flow because I tuned my bike for max torque. I can ride at like, 1500 rpm

 

Credibility:

 

I spent about 2 months worth of Friday nights riding with the SBF Phantom Knights to learn convoy ops, and they have had many makan outings too. Even on some of the more casual events (no formation enforced, etc), the custom Phantom riders do not lanesplit but give others right of way if they request it, regardless of situation.

 

These are @pureice68, @Bikee, @jtzx, @kmjoe and a number of others who advocate safety first over all else.

 

I then spent a lot of time with @nabil15 who learned to lead local and overseas convoys; both of us find lanesplitting a convoy to be more dangerous than the little time it saves (proper planning = avoid the jam in the first place).

 

Once I saw the whole group of Hougang Riders led by @tonychan, @ahcaibiker @xXxRatedxXx and a dozen others - planning, and waiting for decisive overtaking opportunities is much, much superior to riding between cars.

 

Come on, you are getting into your own world and not seeing the reality behind it. Can you confidently point at any rider on the road and tell me he/she does not lane split regardless of the road condition and traffic? If you cannot, then your theory doesnt stand at all. You have not seen 100% of the Singapore riders, how can you say my answer is wrong?

 

Er......too far fetched example. You mentioned convoy. In convoy, there is discipline and order. No one should over take the lead bike. In such big groups, how to lane split? I am talking about day to day normal riding. What you just witness is a one day event.

 

Imagine you are going into JB custom on fri 7pm or coming back Singapore on sunday 7pm. Car lane hogs. These riders stop and go with the cars infront?

 

As long he/she does not stay in lane and attempt to overtake behind two lanes, that is lane splitting already.

 

Hmmmm...have you rode to thailand before?

[ohayo]

To top up, lets not be a keyboard hero/heroine. We can go on and on. I prefer to see things in action with my own eyes.

 

Pandora's Kitten :3, i invite you to join us on this trip.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/305251-lt-Ride-gt-Endau-Rompin-Waterfall-Ride-31-Oct-2B-bike-convoy?p=6756086#post6756086

 

If you can prove to me that you dont even lanesplit throughout the journey, i buy you 4 bottles of motorbike engine oil. Motul 300V, ok? If not you can choose the brands.

 

I like to see how you handle malaysia trunk roads.

 

With your vast knowledge on safety riding, its a pity that you didnt share your precious informations with these riders going to cameron highlands. Some of them are riding up first time and would benefit from your theories and experiences.

 

And after they had came back, ask every single one of them did they lane split bor?

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/299993-lt-Ride-gt-SBF-Cameron-Highland-Ride-2010-5-to-8-Nov-10-(Reg-Closed)/page5

Edited October 28, 2010 by ohayo

[nabil15]

Anyone dare to stay in lane, behind the cars from Changi to Tuas (PIE) at 6pm on weekday without lanesplitting even one bit?

 

Those who do it, heads up bro!!!

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Anyone dare to stay in lane, behind the cars from Changi to Tuas (PIE) at 6pm on weekday without lanesplitting even one bit?

 

Those who do it, heads up bro!!!

 

Lol welcome back to SBF

 

Yes I have done that before. All I need is one nice lorry or taxi driver to snuggle up behind, another car behind me who is okay with following a motorcycle, and silent running 2nd gear all the way

 

I have also non-lanesplit through the causeway as the clearance between lanes was too tight. Don't want to hold up those swift Malaysians by trying to bash through car mirrors. I usually rely on planning to get me past congestion zones. @nabil15 is the one who taught me surburban route planning.

[ohayo]

Its like telling a blind man that the world is so colorful. But the fact to blind man is that the world is in total darkness. No color. Unless you give him a pair of great eyes, nothing can change his fact.

 

Pandora's Kitten :3, joining us on this sunday ride? I cant wait to experience your superb safety riding skills. By learning from you, it will enhance my survival rate next year when i rode up Golden Triangle with my X1R.

 

My 4 bottles of engine oil to your choice still stands.

[nabil15]

Lol welcome back to SBF

 

@nabil15 is the one who taught me surburban route planning.

 

Thanks bro for your kind words.

 

You have taught me many important riding techniques and skills as well

 

Haa, I guess everyone I have met has taught me new lessons through my motorcycling journey.

 

There's much to know and I am always learning around.

[kuwaiyert]

wah like this oso can ah...

 

anyway its up to individual preference...

[ohayo]

wah like this oso can ah...

 

anyway its up to individual preference...

 

Yep, agree, bro. Mutual understanding and learnt to respect each individual rider styles and beliefs

 

Cannot stand those who doesnt respect that and strongly forcefully tell you 'YOU ARE WRONG' straight in the face. As though there is only 1 riding theory. Also be careful when you ride your gixxer, in this thread, there are one person who doesnt like the presence of class 2/2a bikes or class 2/2a riders riding on the Singapore road. So much for respecting fellow riders. SO All hails to 2b bikes!

 

Attention - All Class 2a and Class 2 riders who cannot/doesnt ride in your own lane and anyhow lanesplits - Dont disgrace yourself n down you go.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/295397-Discussion-What-do-you-hate-about-riding?p=6760872#post6760872

 

Never been through and done that. Yet spoken as though he/she has. When questioned? Zero answer.

 

Time to borrow some flame power from hayabusa thread.

Edited October 29, 2010 by ohayo

[kmjoe]

erm ya its true that we will not lanesplit in large convoys... but as for normal daily riding, i do lanesplit if there is a jam or mayb at traffic light junctions wen i tink it's safe to do so =) the reason why bikee and pureice dont really lane split is coz of the width of their bike =x wen i do small convoy with jtzx we do lane split a little when its safe to do so... kinda impossible to be 100% not lane splitting

[Pandoras Kitten 3]

Thanks bro for your kind words.

 

You have taught me many important riding techniques and skills as well

 

Haa, I guess everyone I have met has taught me new lessons through my motorcycling journey.

 

There's much to know and I am always learning around.

 

Yep you hit it dead on the money. Motorcycling is a culture where you basically make a choice and stick with it. Bring up the goodness and ignore the bad! That's how the world progresses from natural selection.

 

Anyways, good luck with enlistment. When I'm done reliving my earlier years learning new things alongside the newbies, I'll be sure to progress up the horsepower ladder

 

Saving up for SV400F (2011 model). Not sure about the model or specs but have seen the early pics. The Suzuki Bandit is a bit too "classic" for me by the time I finish my learning journey so Gladius is the next best bet.

[Aurium]

lets be honest and practical here

there are many things u can do within a limit of safety..

 

anyway lane split doesnt equate to dangerous driving..

it`s all within the confidence level...

afterall going anything above 50kmph without a cage protecting u seems dangerous too right??

 

to each his/her own, but lane spliting is perfectly fine for bikes, tell me ur fairyland stories when u get stuck in NSHW jams til `god knows where` and decide not to lanesplit and stay behind the car/bus/truck for watever safety reasons..

 

PS, i`m sry for bringing up NSHW cuz i spend a considerable amt of time there.

 

anyway we all learn something new everyday right??

hope this thread will benefit riders, both new and exeperienced.

 

Chillz Ohayo, FYI, i lane split too..

keke..

 

Cheers ,

Aurium

[CC]

Yep, agree, bro. Mutual understanding and learnt to respect each individual rider styles and beliefs

 

Cannot stand those who doesnt respect that and strongly forcefully tell you 'YOU ARE WRONG' straight in the face. As though there is only 1 riding theory. Also be careful when you ride your gixxer, in this thread, there are one person who doesnt like the presence of class 2/2a bikes or class 2/2a riders riding on the Singapore road. So much for respecting fellow riders. SO All hails to 2b bikes!

 

Attention - All Class 2a and Class 2 riders who cannot/doesnt ride in your own lane and anyhow lanesplits - Dont disgrace yourself n down you go.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/295397-Discussion-What-do-you-hate-about-riding?p=6760872#post6760872

 

Never been through and done that. Yet spoken as though he/she has. When questioned? Zero answer.

 

Time to borrow some flame power from hayabusa thread.

 

Very well said!!!! Thou this is cyber space where all can have individual freedom of speech, but still....theres just so much of wannabe where trying to act tough or having extreme knowledge on bikes, especially those like what you have mention------keyboard heros......anyway, this is not the only topic they have mention, but more on others......where got fire back with as usual...........no answer! you have my support! 2 more Engine oil from me!

[ohayo]

lets be honest and practical here

there are many things u can do within a limit of safety..

 

anyway lane split doesnt equate to dangerous driving..

it`s all within the confidence level...

afterall going anything above 50kmph without a cage protecting u seems dangerous too right??

 

to each his/her own, but lane spliting is perfectly fine for bikes, tell me ur fairyland stories when u get stuck in NSHW jams til `god knows where` and decide not to lanesplit and stay behind the car/bus/truck for watever safety reasons..

 

PS, i`m sry for bringing up NSHW cuz i spend a considerable amt of time there.

 

anyway we all learn something new everyday right??

hope this thread will benefit riders, both new and exeperienced.

 

Chillz Ohayo, FYI, i lane split too..

keke..

 

Cheers ,

Aurium

 

Yozz, i am chill, bro. You should know me. I DONT STEP ON people tail at all. I have made friends with riders of different race, religions, age, bike of different make, model and class.

 

I just like to shoot those N.A.T.B.O.B.M. The new sibling of N.A.T.O. No Action Talk Big Only Behind Monitor. Too Bad, its end of story. Thought i could have more fun. Expected it anyway since that person does not have any genuine riding experiences to share. Singapore safety riding theory - golden edition? I can always get it straight from cyclists all of ages. Or from Singapore Road Safety Park

 

Hopefully after this incident, may that person LEARNT TO RESPECT ANY FORUM USER and talk sensibility. This is Singapore Bike Forum. Not Singapore MY bike Forum.

 

Very well said!!!! Thou this is cyber space where all can have individual freedom of speech, but still....theres just so much of wannabe where trying to act tough or having extreme knowledge on bikes, especially those like what you have mention------keyboard heros......anyway, this is not the only topic they have mention, but more on others......where got fire back with as usual...........no answer! you have my support! 2 more Engine oil from me!

 

Thanks for the reply, bro. We can save up the 6 bottles of engine oil already. N.A.T.B.O.B.M didnt even turned up yesterday morning. Maybe he/she did but got cold feet and rode away.

 

Oh....that person is now aiming for Class 2A bike. I cant wait to see how will the 'I DONT LANE SPLIT THEORY EVOLVED WITH THE UPGRADE IN BIKE CC'. You know....maybe that person post on....."I am annoyed with all the Class 2b bikes! Go so slow and dont lane split! The engine heat is killing me. The bike weight and riding position wearies down my body and the bike cannot go with low RPM!" Go away to lane 3, you slow coaches!"

Edited November 1, 2010 by ohayo

[ohayo]

 

 

Whether you lane split or not. when lady luck has taken a break on you. then its time

[fufu]

y got some ppl talk like they are super lao jiao and have many experience on the road? at most 7 to 10 years riding and talk like they noe everything.

 

tell me u 10 years never lane split i give u my bike...

 

talk cock keep to urself and ur frens la

 

there is never only 1 riding style that is right..

 

u wan to follow ur on kum lan traffic jam style behind cars thats ur problem.. come in here saying other ppl's riding style is wrong?

 

this type of ppl i replace (lao) jiao with a (lan).

 

ya and its called lao jiao wannabe kum attention seeker

 

*well few months never surf sbf only a new "newbie" wannabe appeared.

 

thats great actually. we can have more laughter on this kum lan kia

Edited November 1, 2010 by fufu
more to add

[ohayo]

Doublie post

[ohayo]

y got some ppl talk like they are super lao jiao and have many experience on the road? at most 7 to 10 years riding and talk like they noe everything.

 

tell me u 10 years never lane split i give u my bike...

 

talk cock keep to urself and ur frens la

 

there is never only 1 riding style that is right..

 

u wan to follow ur on kum lan traffic jam style behind cars thats ur problem.. come in here saying other ppl's riding style is wrong?

 

this type of ppl i replace (lao) jiao with a (lan).

 

ya and its called lao jiao wannabe kum attention seeker

 

*well few months never surf sbf only a new "newbie" wannabe appeared.

 

thats great actually. we can have more laughter on this kum lan kia

 

Thanks for the support bro. People even pose up a Cannot Make it Not Even Half Bucket Full Edited video to show how he/she can ride on singapore road without lane splitting. Advocating the wrong impressions of how safety our roads are to all riders especially those new rider or aspired to be riders. Go around telling people what is good. What is not good.

[Aurium]

hey, chill guys/gals

 

lets have some respect for each other ya?

i have to agree that lane splitting is best avoided if possible,

but sometimes, the situation negates that we do it instead..

 

we all learn sometime ya??

don make hate,

make some love...

 

Cheers!

Aurium

[haoKR]

was on my way to kallang from batok,last fri ?

enter pie on num 28,from there jam until sims..

i bobian split lane ALL e way!!!ya...all e way until iam out of e expressway.omg..its so dangerous

tym=705pm

[Shana_Gabz]

was on my way to kallang from batok,last fri ?

enter pie on num 28,from there jam until sims..

i bobian split lane ALL e way!!!ya...all e way until iam out of e expressway.omg..its so dangerous

tym=705pm

 

times when there are jams like this, cars, lorries and trucks will change lanes very abruptly.

either u go to rain shelter and wait till traffic is smoother.

or u stick in between lane 1 and 2 and travel at ur comfort speed ( dun mind the tailgaters behind cos if they cannot tahan ur 'speed' they will switch lanes) and keep take a look out for cars who on-signal-and-switch-lanes at the same time( be it from the right or left)

[CC]

Hahahahah....fufu is funny.....As for aurium, thou i does agreed and always practicing it - Respect everyone on the road, irregardless what bikes, cc, races or even ages, we are all equal. But if some idiot came into this healthy forum and spray Sh*t, guess that theres alot of us wont like it and start sounding. problem is as said, its not only topic the so-call-rider has posting such individual comments but to many different classes and topics.....so now, who will be the kind soul to talk to that person and advise not doing it? No, it will not happen, cause many just see and ignore it, so that the person will think its nothing wrong......sigh....cyber space......

[kano]

I'm still annoyed at 2A/2 bikes on the highway.

 

I cooperate with the other drivers to ensure safe commuting for everyone, with one car in front and one car behind me keeping a textbook safety distance. Sometimes I can even partner with the cars or lorries beside to have a box formation all aware of the non-lanesplitting motorbike, in slow, constant speed traffic.

 

Suddenly (insert big bike here) cuts in to the "safety zone" WITHOUT WARNING in order to take a "shortcut" from lane 1 to 3, or vice versa.

 

Most of the time the rider gets stuck halfway through the over-ambitious maneuver and ends up making himself a big disgrace getting in everybody's way.

 

Probably you get stuck halfway instead of other bikes ending up u in disgrace to the fellow riders.

[DeusExMachina]

I gotta ask something.....

 

 

Why are some of you talking about riding on local roads as if it was some kind of mission to go bomb Iraq or Afghanistan in your Strike Eagle??

 

Do we need to discuss in depth about the little techniques, the ins and outs, and even take long boring videos of your daily commute and then KPKB + high five over it as if you were analyzing the gun camera view of an aerial dogfight?

 

For everyone else... the car drivers, the lorry drivers, the bus drivers, and most other riders... the trip from your home to work and vice versa is just another boring commute. It's an afterthought. Come to think about it, I don't even remember my ride this morning. Most of it was done on instinct and habit.

 

You don't even need to think about it, or plan your route, or analyze other ppl's riding style and whether they lane split or not. You don't need to get off your bike at your destination and pat your own back for being a model rider for some imaginary TP/LTA campaign. 'Cos probably nobody gives a rat's ass about it. It's trivial. It's pedestrian.

 

Do we need to psychoanalyze something as stupid as "Why you lanesplit huh?" and then go brag about how correct and safe you were.

 

Treat it like your private parts. Don't flaunt it or let it hang out in public. Keep it to yourself.

Edited November 2, 2010 by DeusExMachina

[Vashie]

Although I haven't ridden for long...I never lane split at all during my few months of riding...And I don't think I will ever lane split in my life of riding if I have a choice.

I admit that one of the main reason is because I'm timid!

 

There is never a more safer way of riding imho...in traffic jams, it's a 'staying behind cars and risk knocking into the front vehicle/ rear vehicle knocking into you' VS 'lane splitting and risk getting hit by cars suddenly turning out from their lane.'

Whatever you decide on...just pray that luck is with you.

But usually if I'm going to a place with high traffic, I still take public transport. Riding at expressways after 12am is the best! No worries of lane splitting or jams.

[Icomeforyou]

Although I haven't ridden for long...I never lane split at all during my few months of riding...And I don't think I will ever lane split in my life of riding if I have a choice.

I admit that one of the main reason is because I'm timid!

 

There is never a more safer way of riding imho...in traffic jams, it's a 'staying behind cars and risk knocking into the front vehicle/ rear vehicle knocking into you' VS 'lane splitting and risk getting hit by cars suddenly turning out from their lane.'

Whatever you decide on...just pray that luck is with you.

But usually if I'm going to a place with high traffic, I still take public transport. Riding at expressways after 12am is the best! No worries of lane splitting or jams.

 

Lol, vashie still quite zai =) I admit the first few months of riding i also didn't lane split cause also don't dare.

 

But ever since started working at suntec and I stay marsiling.... Guilty as charged =)

 

But all in all, chill people relax k? Let's just enjoy the ride and whatever one's preference might be, lane split or not, as long as you get from point A to point B in one piece, you're the fellow that wins.