Engine Oil - General Discussion

[hachi]

But the oil still new. CAnnotleft ur oil filter too long cos filter material made of paper and after a long time in oil then it will look like toilet paper in the bowl after 3 mins...hee hee

[calyban]

Hi, did a search on EO but lots of mixed reviews considering the dif in EO brands/types and also the variety of 4-stroke bikes around.

 

So this thread is specifically to find out which brand and type of EO is the best (if any) for our CB400. I dunno if theres any dif for the various versions (V-tecs, PB1, ver S/R) but since mine is ver S, hope other S-owners can provide more of their views.

 

Anyway, i now currently using R4, changed at combine @$20 per btl, its good, but i want to try cheaper fully-synth alternatives.

Tried to get the $16/btl Royal Purple maxcycle but tanjong pagar outta stock, gotta wait 2 wks for the next batch, sianz...

[calyban]

hmm, seems like nobody really wants to discuss bout EO issue for S4 here...

[hgl81]

i using R4 oso.change at HKL @ $16/btl

[calyban]

haha that was a fast reply!

sorry just to confirm the oil change at hkl was not diy? wah then i go there change liao, lots cheaper than at combine.

 

Combine's great, but too xiong on my budget for small stuff like these...

[pistolwhip]

i was using elf previously, smooth, quiet, problem free.....then itchy, went & tried r4... regret man.....regret.. :nono: 2k clicks change back to elf.....never again using r4. btw i ride a ver s as well. wont go wrong with elf, esso gold, motul...check the components price list. :thumb:

[Guest bomerman81]

i using fuchs full syn eo....

 

veri gd i must say... changed @ oli $18/bottle @ hkl too.....

[Guest NPNT]

use Total lor...

[kazuhiko]

i have been using the royal purple fully syn for 2 years, and it serve me well. $10 per bottle...

[HONG]

Originally posted by bomerman81@May 10 2005, 09:01 PM

i using fuchs full syn eo....

 

veri gd i must say... changed @ oli $18/bottle @ hkl too.....

previously i using Motul 300V... very good leh... but after i changed to Fuchs Full Syn.. wah .. cannot tahan... bike very hot sia... danny oso complaining abt the heat from his bike last time but he nt sure where the prob is... but now i am quite sure its becos of the engine oil... how abt u?? do u feel that ur bike is hot?? even when riding at night?

[MiCmAsTa]

Originally posted by HONG@May 11 2005, 04:56 AM

previously i using Motul 300V... very good leh... but after i changed to Fuchs Full Syn.. wah .. cannot tahan... bike very hot sia... danny oso complaining abt the heat from his bike last time but he nt sure where the prob is... but now i am quite sure its becos of the engine oil... how abt u?? do u feel that ur bike is hot?? even when riding at night?

My Balls are BURNING!!!

[hgl81]

Originally posted by calyban@May 10 2005, 10:32 AM

haha that was a fast reply!

sorry just to confirm the oil change at hkl was not diy? wah then i go there change liao, lots cheaper than at combine.

 

Combine's great, but too xiong on my budget for small stuff like these...

Not DIY de.inclded installation liao.think for the price only there is cheapest unless DIY

[hgl81]

Originally posted by bricktop@May 10 2005, 08:48 PM

i was using elf previously, smooth, quiet, problem free.....then itchy, went & tried r4... regret man.....regret.. :nono: 2k clicks change back to elf.....never again using r4. btw i ride a ver s as well. wont go wrong with elf, esso gold, motul...check the components price list. :thumb:

can explain more wat happen tat make u change back?

dun scare me leh.

me now using R4.now abt 4k liao.

[calyban]

Originally posted by kazuhiko@May 11 2005, 12:02 AM

i have been using the royal purple fully syn for 2 years, and it serve me well. $10 per bottle...

hi kazuhiko,

u mean u are not using the $16 maxcycle for ur s4? i thought of using the cheaper rp motoroil, but since its for cars, was put off by any potential damage to our clutch plates? (dun want to risk it on my baby)

 

someone in hands on section got an offfical reply from the manufacturer who guarantees that the $10 oil can use on bikes oso (that particular offical backed this claim up personally saying he used it for his 3 personal honda bikes w/o trouble), but some forumers contradicted it, reported its smoothness is not lasting... hmmm...

 

so can elaborate more on how gd u think is the $10 rp? anyway have u tried rp maxcycle?

[redname]

Originally posted by calyban@May 9 2005, 12:09 PM

Hi, did a search on EO but lots of mixed reviews considering the dif in EO brands/types and also the variety of 4-stroke bikes around.

 

So this thread is specifically to find out which brand and type of EO is the best (if any) for our CB400. I dunno if theres any dif for the various versions (V-tecs, PB1, ver S/R) but since mine is ver S, hope other S-owners can provide more of their views.

 

Anyway, i now currently using R4, changed at combine @$20 per btl, its good, but i want to try cheaper fully-synth alternatives.

Tried to get the $16/btl Royal Purple maxcycle but tanjong pagar outta stock, gotta wait 2 wks for the next batch, sianz...

for $20/btl, i recommend the motul 300V. R4 isn't as gd as wat it claims. the base stock (raw material) used by R4 is actually rated 2.5 out of 5 but motul 300V is 5 out of 5. which is better? i tink u shld know the answer by now

[gnayed]

Actually my S4 manual states that for atmospheric temperature for our country ranging from about 20ºC to 40ºC we should use 20W-50 EO. But I realise alot of them using full synth 5w-20 or even "thinner" oil, is that really advisable? Considering the fact that our country is not cold enough to make the EO thicken...

[pistolwhip]

Originally posted by hgl81@May 11 2005, 07:42 AM

can explain more wat happen tat make u change back?

dun scare me leh.

me now using R4.now abt 4k liao.

rough engine, lots of vibration, made the bike sluggish, struggling to accelerate, & it ran hot....never again man. my mechanic also advised against it, he said it was only a brand name, nothing exceptional. But i clever want to try....clever clever kena bang. But no worries ~elf. i think its 15w 50 fully syn. bout $18 plus labour.

[calyban]

Originally posted by redname@May 11 2005, 11:25 AM

for $20/btl, i recommend the motul 300V. R4 isn't as gd as wat it claims. the base stock (raw material) used by R4 is actually rated 2.5 out of 5 but motul 300V is 5 out of 5. which is better? i tink u shld know the answer by now

hmm, any recommendations which motordiam to go for this price?

[kazuhiko]

Originally posted by calyban@May 11 2005, 07:39 AM

hi kazuhiko,

u mean u are not using the $16 maxcycle for ur s4? i thought of using the cheaper rp motoroil, but since its for cars, was put off by any potential damage to our clutch plates? (dun want to risk it on my baby)

 

someone in hands on section got an offfical reply from the manufacturer who guarantees that the $10 oil can use on bikes oso (that particular offical backed this claim up personally saying he used it for his 3 personal honda bikes w/o trouble), but some forumers contradicted it, reported its smoothness is not lasting... hmmm...

 

so can elaborate more on how gd u think is the $10 rp? anyway have u tried rp maxcycle?

so far no problem, smooth gear shifting no clutch slip cheap value for money...

[pufferfis]

maybe u can check e s4 components price list.....dont be lazy bro...most of it is there..

[calyban]

hi pufferfis,

er.. yah i did looked thorougly thru the list, but they only reflect price.

wad i want to know also is the feedback of those particular EO usage by other s4 owners. esp ver S owners, hehe...

 

cos i not sure oso if EO would be differently suited for the range of s4, or if they can even range throughout individual bikes, lydat we sure to have headache trying out which is the best for our own bikes liao.

 

anyway u riding ver S? which EO u using?

[kazuhiko]

Originally posted by calyban@May 12 2005, 12:31 AM

hi pufferfis,

er.. yah i did looked thorougly thru the list, but they only reflect price.

wad i want to know also is the feedback of those particular EO usage by other s4 owners. esp ver S owners, hehe...

 

cos i not sure oso if EO would be differently suited for the range of s4, or if they can even range throughout individual bikes, lydat we sure to have headache trying out which is the best for our own bikes liao.

 

anyway u riding ver S? which EO u using?

IMO as long as it the eo is fully syn, i think is good enough for the bike.

i will normally change eo together with oil filter.

of course if you can choose to use better eo cos might increase performance a bit.

correct mi if wrong

[bomisman]

Was using Fuch EO all along and i tot the hotness was ok. Not until i went to JB for petrol.

The queue was just after the slope and by the time i reach the counter, wahhhh ball burning!!

 

I wanna try Esso Gold, the one at KL Cycle. The promotion still there?

Any comments on Esso Gold?

 

Thanks.

[pistolwhip]

Originally posted by bomisman@May 19 2005, 12:35 PM

I wanna try Esso Gold, the one at KL Cycle. The promotion still there?

Any comments on Esso Gold?

 

Thanks.

Bike runs smoother on esso gold than on r4, for sure....but funny, no help in gear shifting, & neutral also hard to find now...

It doesn't cook well, long distance heat.....clutch turn into toasted bread fuggin fast. bloody hell.

Thats The only pluspoint of r4....the engine could run hot.

I still recommend elf fullysyn for ver.s.

[floppy]

ver s, vtec 1/2/3, watever

motul 300v