VFR 800

[Guest TourXcrosS]

Originally posted by inzaghi_75@January 21, 2007 05:02 pm

HamsterZ is right, this bike is inherently stable as due to the shallower rake angle, however, the rear suspension does not cope well with bumps and dips on fast sweepers.

 

 

I usually get 290 before the it darns to blink and 70++km bef it sputters n dies. Had to push her to petrol station twice, its a real workout.

 

 

Anyone tired Michelin Pilot Powers? My Z6 is nearing EOL.

 

Guys Fyi, check out this Japanese TP riding test. Would be fun if we can get to play ROV's VFR like that. check out the mini power slide at 13:30

 

http://www.police-ch.jp/asx/M18112001.asx

fierce but as skillful...

if not mistaken, that was a LADY rider okie!

 

try Pirelli Diablo liao?

for mileage can go BT10 front BT20 rear combination

 

 

 

 

just my nonsense

[vfrT]

Originally posted by none@January 18, 2007 10:57 pm

VfrT

 

Your initial statement is correct, why did you amend it?

See the picture I had extracted from the service manual.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/en0n/vfr/lbs.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/en0n/vfr/lbs2.jpg

 

Also I had self service my brake pistons and change brake pads a few months ago.

I had noticed that when the rear brake is stepped on, piston 2 will push out faster than piston 1. Only after piston 2 has met resistance, then piston 1 will push out.

 

When front brake is engage.

The order will be 5,4,3.

 

I wonder why not all the pistons will push out together at the same time and whether this is the correct operation.

Hi None

My VFR (non-vtec) manual shows that the rear braking circuit activates the center piston of BOTH front calipers. Whereas your diagram which I think is for the vTec ver shows that only the front left caliper's center piston is activated.

 

I was not aware of this diff and assumed the 5th & 6th gens' LBS to be similar.

 

In this case, I you are right; hence frequent use of the rear brake could result in faster wear for the front left brake pads relative to the right front.

 

Thx for the enlightenment.

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by inzaghi_75@January 21, 2007 05:02 pm

HamsterZ is right, this bike is inherently stable as due to the shallower rake angle, however, the rear suspension does not cope well with bumps and dips on fast sweepers.

 

 

I usually get 290 before the it darns to blink and 70++km bef it sputters n dies. Had to push her to petrol station twice, its a real workout.

 

 

Anyone tired Michelin Pilot Powers? My Z6 is nearing EOL.

 

Guys Fyi, check out this Japanese TP riding test. Would be fun if we can get to play ROV's VFR like that. check out the mini power slide at 13:30

 

http://www.police-ch.jp/asx/M18112001.asx

the PPs are great street sport tires. Its on my r6, street attack is great, and track is good. But 1 thing i can't get right is the wear rate is damn low "visually". Unlike many tires I have used. ...and I am already running 30fr 30rr!

 

2 meanings.... it can tahan.. or is there not enough grip. It grips damn well till a few of my frens fell on that tire..

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by TourXcrosS@January 21, 2007 10:57 pm

fierce but as skillful...

if not mistaken, that was a LADY rider okie!

 

try Pirelli Diablo liao?

for mileage can go BT10 front BT20 rear combination

 

 

 

 

just my nonsense

used them on my VFR. Have a feeling its too soft for the VFR weight. Anyways it only lasted my 8000km

[ronald814]

My VFR is a petrol guzzler, I getting only 240Km before the fuel gauge starts blinking. Maybe I am too heavy.

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by ronald814@January 22, 2007 08:16 pm

My VFR is a petrol guzzler, I getting only 240Km before the fuel gauge starts blinking. Maybe I am too heavy.

nope.. weight doesn't make a big diff to the petrol consumption. But it does mak a diff in pick-up and max speed

 

It is mostly due to your type of riding and how you twist the throttle and when you upshift.

 

Think most of our 280km+70km kinda mileage, i would say at least 60~75% is done on the freeways. If you are always on start stop traffic, consumption will definitely go up. Imagine 1 min at the traffic light, how much more mileage u can cover at 50kmh no doubt you use more petrol at a higher speed. I found this out when i adjusted my idling speed. I actually get another 15~20km more!

 

What rpm you change your gears will also make a difference. some say rev hard change fast and reach 100kmh is more fuel saving, coz u reach higher speed at best torque gear shifts. Some relak slow get the rpm up and change gear... it all depends

[Friday13]

Originally posted by ronald814@January 22, 2007 08:16 pm

My VFR is a petrol guzzler, I getting only 240Km before the fuel gauge starts blinking. Maybe I am too heavy.

Eh bro, VFR I find is very rider dependent. I find it behaves differently with every rider's style of riding. For me, I spent my first week adjusting to my viffer to really understand this bike. Then I work on the fuel consumption. My first week also the reserve fuel started to blink at 250km. So not surprising at all.

[ronald814]

Thks for the tip Hamster

 

I think also my style of riding consitutes the low fuel consumption. Always revving the engine from low RPM at high gears, still thought this is my old CBR. Can always hear that the engine is struggling to pick up speed but once above 5000rpm, it is okay.

[Friday13]

Originally posted by ronald814@January 23, 2007 09:59 am

Thks for the tip Hamster

 

I think also my style of riding consitutes the low fuel consumption. Always revving the engine from low RPM at high gears, still thought this is my old CBR. Can always hear that the engine is struggling to pick up speed but once above 5000rpm, it is okay.

I faced the same problem as you bro. Try with a new tank of petrol. Put it smoothly up to 4500revs before you upshift. Whenever it falls to 3000revs, downshift to let it cruise at min 3500 revs. Then you will find your mileage to fuel ratio will increase significantly.

Viffer sure is a bike with character.

[sfowner]

To me, the VFR is such a fun bike that I dun want to monitor the consumption too much when I ride. It's a good compromise between an out-n-out sports bike, and a street commuter bike... so when I whack it, the fun I get out of it is well worth the petrol money I spend... hahaha... IMHO only...

 

Of course I know the discussion here is more academic... to get to know one's bike better...

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by ronald814@January 23, 2007 09:59 am

Thks for the tip Hamster

 

I think also my style of riding consitutes the low fuel consumption. Always revving the engine from low RPM at high gears, still thought this is my old CBR. Can always hear that the engine is struggling to pick up speed but once above 5000rpm, it is okay.

not reall a tip.. just sharing my experience...

 

i ever get a fren who ides like how i ride.. yet is able to cloc320km before reserves starts (on the old CBR400RR-L model.. back then... and i am on the R model.. 13 year old metal!) I really wonder where the 50++km come from.. unless its running really lean.. but then his pick up and top speed is also so much higher with standard sprocket sizes!

 

Sometimes makes me doubt my own analysis argrhh.

 

 

and yes, at abb 80~100kmh, if you are on the 6th gear, it "struggles" a little (can me felt and heard from the obvious thobbing/choking V4). It is evn more obvious with full luggauge and pillion!

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 23, 2007 10:18 am

I faced the same problem as you bro. Try with a new tank of petrol. Put it smoothly up to 4500revs before you upshift. Whenever it falls to 3000revs, downshift to let it cruise at min 3500 revs. Then you will find your mileage to fuel ratio will increase significantly.

Viffer sure is a bike with character.

ahh yesh.. something i noticed when the bike is left un-touched for weeks. Happened to both my VFR n R6, but not to my lao pok starlet...

 

The bike feels sluggish...slightly choking. It is not smooth at high revs. Once you rev the hell out of it.. it gets moother....fresh petrol.. its even smoother!!

 

Guess its the high compression ratio that our bikes are running as compared to the cars.

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by sfowner@January 23, 2007 02:31 pm

To me, the VFR is such a fun bike that I dun want to monitor the consumption too much when I ride. It's a good compromise between an out-n-out sports bike, and a street commuter bike... so when I whack it, the fun I get out of it is well worth the petrol money I spend... hahaha... IMHO only...

 

Of course I know the discussion here is more academic... to get to know one's bike better...

sfowner... i totally agree with you on "To me, the VFR is such a fun bike ". Loads of character, and so bloody versatile (ahem* pardon me for the LOUD langugae ). it always gave me the comfy balance from greatr local commuter/m'sia tour machine, to a "out-of-e-box" play machine anytime right at the wrist command.

 

But I tend to think less of petrol when i pump in RM currency...

 

Missed her alot... now if only i can own 2 machines at the same time... ahhhhhhhh

 

Nah this discussions ain't very academic. I also read, test, try to gian more. End of the day, tis ur machine, your ride (and ur $$ spent). As long the machine provide you for what you r looking for, thats motorcycling man!!!

[ronald814]

No lah, I am not concern abt the fuel consumption but it is drinking more petrol than my old CBR 1000 RR and I am a bit jealous of hearing most of the VFR guys in this forum getting at least 290km b4 blinking here.

 

Now my VFR only gets 13.3km per litre compared to my old CBR1000RR 14.4 km per litre. A real cause of concern even though it is not an outright sportsbike.

 

Ya hamster, agree on as long the machine provide you for what you r looking for, thats motorcycling man

 

Thanks Friday, will try your tips. I think I forget that VFR is 800cc, needs to downshift instead of my 1000 cc and also down 50 bhps b4 accelerating.

 

Do U miss your K5?

 

VFR is indeed a bike very suitable for my riding ability. Not like the CBR 1000 which scared me everytime I ride too fast.

[Guest KISS]

Sepang trackday 20 Jan 07

 

U still can hav fun with the VFR on the track:-

http://www.shootmoto.com/pictures/main.php?g2_itemId=20388

 

http://www.shootmoto.com/pictures/main.php?g2_itemId=20550

[Friday13]

Originally posted by ronald814@January 23, 2007 07:52 pm

Do U miss your K5?

Actually to be frank...I do miss my G6K5...But I always think of it this way...To grow with my machine. I find that in all bikes, there are sure to be their strengths and weaknesses...By exploiting the strengths to cover their weaknesses is my riding style. VFR I say got character becos I find it is a high rev bike and can go from Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde instantly whenever I want it. In terms of track racing, ok the sports machines are better off but in terms of street fighting, VFR sure is a bike you wouldn't want to mess with.

Jus my humble opinion...

[inzaghi_75]

Originally posted by ronald814@January 23, 2007 07:52 pm

No lah, I am not concern abt the fuel consumption but it is drinking more petrol than my old CBR 1000 RR and I am a bit jealous of hearing most of the VFR guys in this forum getting at least 290km b4 blinking here.

 

U might want to check ur air filter, makes a difference. My milleage drops to 250km++ when the air filter was dirty, After servicing it it was better.

 

Just my 2 cts

[sfowner]

Originally posted by HamsterZ@January 23, 2007 04:09 pm

Missed her alot... now if only i can own 2 machines at the same time... ahhhhhhhh

 

Nah this discussions ain't very academic. I also read, test, try to gian more. End of the day, tis ur machine, your ride (and ur $$ spent). As long the machine provide you for what you r looking for, thats motorcycling man!!!

 

wahahaha... i can tell u miss ur machine... ur pic still show u leaning hard on ur cool red vfr!!!

 

actually i dun mean academic academic la... i mean i know people here not so concerned about the money spent, but just trying to understand differences in consumption between own bike and others... i also curious, but have since given up figuring out... hahaha... ride on babe!!!

[sfowner]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 24, 2007 10:21 am

Actually to be frank...I do miss my G6K5...But I always think of it this way...To grow with my machine. I find that in all bikes, there are sure to be their strengths and weaknesses...By exploiting the strengths to cover their weaknesses is my riding style. VFR I say got character becos I find it is a high rev bike and can go from Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde instantly whenever I want it. In terms of track racing, ok the sports machines are better off but in terms of street fighting, VFR sure is a bike you wouldn't want to mess with.

Jus my humble opinion...

Well said!!!

 

Normally once I change a bike, I almost immediately start eyeing another...

but with the VFR, I'm still very much in love with it after 7 mths...

 

it's strange not oogling at other bikes...

well.... maybe the ZX1400....

hahaha, it has presence, but i'm not sure it'll be quite as fun as the VFR... :sweat:

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by 3ddy@April 23, 2004 01:37 am

wat's the top speed ah?

i amnaged to clcok 255kmh. Tink still can go .. but super slow change in the digits... and no road liaos...

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by KISS@January 24, 2007 10:10 am

Sepang trackday 20 Jan 07

 

U still can hav fun with the VFR on the track:-

http://www.shootmoto.com/pictures/main.php?g2_itemId=20388

 

http://www.shootmoto.com/pictures/main.php?g2_itemId=20550

hey bro!! great pics man!!!! I like the lean angle.. with pannier mounts on somemore

[ronald814]

Thanks for the tip inzaghi_75, I realise that after my Thailand trip in middle Dec which was so dusty. I have not clean the Air-filter. Will do so this Sat.

 

Ya Friday, have fun on the VFR. After the initial 3 weeks, now I have grown to love it alot.

 

I am starting to have a lot of fun on it especially with the rainy season now. The top box is really convenient to put all my stuffs in.

 

My top speed only 235km, cannot go more already.

 

My neighbour who is riding a Year 2000 800Fi model, non-forum chap, is also getting 310km++ for his Fi model.

[Guest TourXcrosS]

Originally posted by Friday13@January 24, 2007 10:21 am

VFR I say got character becos I find it is a high rev bike and can go from Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde instantly whenever I want it. In terms of track racing, ok the sports machines are better off but in terms of street fighting, VFR sure is a bike you wouldn't want to mess with.

Jus my humble opinion...

HiHi,

 

pardon me 4 my poor english....

just curious what do u mean by Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde & Street Fighting? Maintaining VTec zone all the way?

 

what i observe n test with my frenz latest model R6 is its low rev, high torque characteristics and lighter machine compare to viffer obviously pickup is much faster. didnt actually got a chance to rev really high...

i guess its a better street fighter

but i still prefer2 stick2 VFR sitting posture.

 

ronald814: 13.3km/L is way 2 little.... norm is 16-18km/L somewhere 280-300km reserve LED starting blinking

 

 

 

Just my nonsense...

[Friday13]

Originally posted by TourXcrosS@January 25, 2007 12:44 am

HiHi,

 

pardon me 4 my poor english....

just curious what do u mean by Dr Jekyll to Mr Hyde & Street Fighting? Maintaining VTec zone all the way?

 

what i observe n test with my frenz latest model R6 is its low rev, high torque characteristics and lighter machine compare to viffer obviously pickup is much faster. didnt actually got a chance to rev really high...

i guess its a better street fighter

but i still prefer2 stick2 VFR sitting posture.

 

ronald814: 13.3km/L is way 2 little.... norm is 16-18km/L somewhere 280-300km reserve LED starting blinking

 

 

 

Just my nonsense...

Hi TourXcross,

 

My view point, Street fighting means on normal traffic conditions with moderate to heavy traffic. I used to do this but grew out of it liao. Too dangerous...

 

You have mainly listed the good points about a R6. In track, it will be a tough opponent but on the roads, yes the pickup is good but how fast can you drag the throttle with traffic? If you drag, can you brake in time when there is a sudden condition change? Given the power to weight ratio, I find that throttle discipline is more stringent too.

 

When I ride my Viffer, if it really means I have a khaki to play streetfighting, these will be my following emphasis to bring out in my bike.

- ABS

- Downstaged Vtec at 5000 revs

- Turning radius

This 3 points I learned about my bike makes me realise why our TP selected Viffers to be their workhorses.

 

Seriously, when I ride my first class 2 bike, I think power is everything. I grew to learn that there are many riders with different bikes out there that will prove me wrong easily anytime.

 

Well actually it is rider dependent lah...

[Friday13]

Very sian bros...Today dropped my Viffer during parking with mainstand due to slippery floor and broke my right foot peg's sliding nut...My dear also suffered some light scratches on the right fairing and mirror... Maybe it is a good excuse to change to racing footsets...