VFR 800

[HamsterZ]

gosh check out this bike!!!

 

Anyone had the panniers hitting the floor before?

 

http://bikepics.com/pictures/076958/

 

http://bikepics.com/pictures/076959/

 

 

http://bikepics.com/pictures/106437/

[ashenZ]

hey hamsterZ.... long time no see~~ hehhee... the guy damn sud siahh.... two brothes end can.... phuii~~ power man~ heheh

 

guyz i wun be fulfilling moi VFR dreamz... juz upgrade to a ST1100... hehehee... maibe got chance let mi test ride abit ahh~

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by ashenZ@May 23 2004, 03:54 PM

hey hamsterZ.... long time no see~~ hehhee... the guy damn sud siahh.... two brothes end can.... phuii~~ power man~ heheh

 

guyz i wun be fulfilling moi VFR dreamz... juz upgrade to a ST1100... hehehee... maibe got chance let mi test ride abit ahh~

eh just got an ST? heyhey I have a ST11 bike ALMOST BRAND NEW.. coz I used it once on my bike and found out it is not for my vehicle size.

 

interested? 96950802!!

 

A second hand VFR I think FW plate is going for quite low judging from the one I saw at Looi's that day...

[ashenZ]

u got 2 bikes??? 1 ST11 , 1 VFR??????

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by ashenZ@May 24 2004, 08:24 AM

u got 2 bikes??? 1 ST11 , 1 VFR??????

erm no.. VFR, R1 and my favourite NC23!

I dunt have an ST11. Just that the bike cover bought wrong size and type... hehe interested in the cover... help me ean some $$ back leh hehehe

[ashenZ]

wud love to help bro.. but the prev owner gave mi 3 bike covers ehh.....

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by ashenZ@May 25 2004, 02:30 AM

wud love to help bro.. but the prev owner gave mi 3 bike covers ehh.....

wao so good.. hehehe never mind then

[rhema83]

Is the thread dead already? Wanna know more about my dream bike leh...

 

Anyway is VFR as heavy as rumoured. People tell me it doesn't accelerate hard due to its weight. But when I see VFRs on the road they are always real fast.

[ashenZ]

all bikes r heavy of coz... but u wun feel the wt it has when handling or pushing the bike... itz totally ergonmically design..... they r real fast unless u r willing to push it..... itz a multipurpose bike for everyday travel, racing and single rider touring.....

 

wot i feel is itz about the wt of an S4 give or take a few kgs...

 

sighzzz.. now i got a ST... dunoe how long i muz tke to get a VFR n FJR...

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by rhema83@Jun 21 2004, 01:44 PM

Is the thread dead already? Wanna know more about my dream bike leh...

 

Anyway is VFR as heavy as rumoured. People tell me it doesn't accelerate hard due to its weight. But when I see VFRs on the road they are always real fast.

From the very first ride till today.. these are my reviews :

 

1. How heavy is the bike compared to the rest?

The VFR is about 218kg (with ABS), thats almost 240~250kg will a full tank of gas. Among class 2 sports bikes, it is about 45-50kg xtra of mass.

 

2. Does it accelerate fast?

With a this xtra mass, it will generally be slower as compared to the sports monsters. But then again, what rpm are you relating to? at low end, it gives pretty much satisfaction. Well this babe has enough punch to pop wheelies, I think its torquey

 

3. Issit that fast?

So far I only topped 255kmh. I think it is slow. But then again, hwo many times of 300kmh will I ever do... hhhmm safety first. Oh by the way, once it past 230++kmh, it it seems to take forever to reach 255kmh

 

4. Issit hard to handle?

In my opinion, it IS heavy to push it around compared to my R1. At riding speeds below 20kmh, it feels a little luggish and slow. Always a fear of over banking and fall. Once I am above 20kmh, it feels about 80% as an R1. In fact, it handles very neutrally between speeds of 40-160kmh, not to mention it is very stable. Anything higher than 200kmh, I will prefer the R1(or anysportbikes) as the suspension gets soft.

 

It is hard to compare this bike to many others except in it own league. Who else makes an 782cc machine? It will never handle or give you the G-force like the 1000cc counterparts. But it serves it purpose well as an all rounder. Why do I say so?

 

Getting this bike is not all about power for me. It gives a good 18-20km/litre of fuel consumption. Pickup is more than enough for SG roads and N-S highway. The grunt at 7k rpm transform the maiden into jekyll & Hyde, which simply exhilarates the rider. Regardless which speed, the riding style, position and comfort of the saddle really puts you to keep on riding(tso far a single trip of 700++km leaves me not shack!). Last of all, I think the V4 growl is none the less..... sweet.......

 

 

I would call this a gentleman sports tourers.....

 

 

These are just my individual 2-cents worth of opinion. There is no intention of degrading other class or type of bikes. I hope it gives you a better idea of the VFR. It would be great to see another rider joining us. Hey yoiu looking for 1, lets look together. Helpin a friend look for one too. Sheis also keen on the beauty....

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 21 2004, 02:04 PM

all bikes r heavy of coz... but u wun feel the wt it has when handling or pushing the bike... itz totally ergonmically design..... they r real fast unless u r willing to push it..... itz a multipurpose bike for everyday travel, racing and single rider touring.....

 

wot i feel is itz about the wt of an S4 give or take a few kgs...

 

sighzzz.. now i got a ST... dunoe how long i muz tke to get a VFR n FJR...

erm paiseh... can I add something? it has great couple touring capabitlities too!!

 

hehehe

 

Hows your ST11? i have yet to try on one leh.. kekeke.. jokin...

[rhema83]

Originally posted by HamsterZ@Jun 21 2004, 10:22 PM

From the very first ride till today.. these are my reviews :

 

1. How heavy is the bike compared to the rest?

The VFR is about 218kg (with ABS), thats almost 240~250kg will a full tank of gas. Among class 2 sports bikes, it is about 45-50kg xtra of mass.

 

2. Does it accelerate fast?

With a this xtra mass, it will generally be slower as compared to the sports monsters. But then again, what rpm are you relating to? at low end, it gives pretty much satisfaction. Well this babe has enough punch to pop wheelies, I think its torquey

 

3. Issit that fast?

So far I only topped 255kmh. I think it is slow. But then again, hwo many times of 300kmh will I ever do... hhhmm safety first. Oh by the way, once it past 230++kmh, it it seems to take forever to reach 255kmh

 

4. Issit hard to handle?

In my opinion, it IS heavy to push it around compared to my R1. At riding speeds below 20kmh, it feels a little luggish and slow. Always a fear of over banking and fall. Once I am above 20kmh, it feels about 80% as an R1. In fact, it handles very neutrally between speeds of 40-160kmh, not to mention it is very stable. Anything higher than 200kmh, I will prefer the R1(or anysportbikes) as the suspension gets soft.

 

It is hard to compare this bike to many others except in it own league. Who else makes an 782cc machine? It will never handle or give you the G-force like the 1000cc counterparts. But it serves it purpose well as an all rounder. Why do I say so?

 

Getting this bike is not all about power for me. It gives a good 18-20km/litre of fuel consumption. Pickup is more than enough for SG roads and N-S highway. The grunt at 7k rpm transform the maiden into jekyll & Hyde, which simply exhilarates the rider. Regardless which speed, the riding style, position and comfort of the saddle really puts you to keep on riding(tso far a single trip of 700++km leaves me not shack!). Last of all, I think the V4 growl is none the less..... sweet.......

 

 

I would call this a gentleman sports tourers.....

 

 

These are just my individual 2-cents worth of opinion. There is no intention of degrading other class or type of bikes. I hope it gives you a better idea of the VFR. It would be great to see another rider joining us. Hey yoiu looking for 1, lets look together. Helpin a friend look for one too. Sheis also keen on the beauty....

Wow, thanks for the detailed review. Owner's opinion is forever better than those you see in the magazines!

 

One thing about that V4 engine... Does it heat up very easily? Honda is known to have electrical problems (rectifier and circuitry) and some are related to heat problems. So far have you encountered any persistent problems in this area?

 

You're right about the fact that this bike is a class of its own. I will be choosing between this bike, GSXR750 and maybe the 600 sports. I will be commuting to work everyday with this bike and don't want to break my back or my wrist. I will probably make weekend makan trips up north and visit the track sometimes. (It has always been my dream to cruise on the highway!)

 

I might wait for the next version (probably in '06 or '07?) before I actually buy the bike though. This bike is definitely not cheap (some 22k-ish?) and I rather not owe the bank so much money in loans. So it's time for saving... I must resist the temptation!

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by HamsterZ@Jun 21 2004, 10:26 PM

erm paiseh... can I add something? it has great couple touring capabitlities too!!

 

hehehe

 

Hows your ST11? i have yet to try on one leh.. kekeke.. jokin...

my ST... super heavy and cumbersome... mi nowadays try not to ride it so much... coz too heavy too big.... cun squeeze traffic.. peak hours stay in doors... sianz.. last time go market packet lunch also ride bike.. now... mi juz walk....

 

hehehee.. it got good touring capabilties.. went cameron.. 1st time gf nvr complain bckside pain... but itz good onli for straight long roads and gentle bends....

 

up n down cameron highlands.. mi curse n swear.... slowest and the last... cun pick up fast enuf... cun brake fast enuf... cun manuvere fast enuf.... well.... like i always say.. old man's bike....

 

but itz not a bad ride lahh... smooth and quiet..... dun nid to lube chain.... but well compare to VFR... itz another class.... cheekozer was at the trip... 1st time travel wif VFR..... realli bow over by itz capabilities......

 

a must buy~!~!~!~!

[HamsterZ]

Originally posted by rhema83@Jun 25 2004, 05:22 PM

Wow, thanks for the detailed review. Owner's opinion is forever better than those you see in the magazines!

 

One thing about that V4 engine... Does it heat up very easily? Honda is known to have electrical problems (rectifier and circuitry) and some are related to heat problems. So far have you encountered any persistent problems in this area?

 

You're right about the fact that this bike is a class of its own. I will be choosing between this bike, GSXR750 and maybe the 600 sports. I will be commuting to work everyday with this bike and don't want to break my back or my wrist. I will probably make weekend makan trips up north and visit the track sometimes. (It has always been my dream to cruise on the highway!)

 

I might wait for the next version (probably in '06 or '07?) before I actually buy the bike though. This bike is definitely not cheap (some 22k-ish?) and I rather not owe the bank so much money in loans. So it's time for saving... I must resist the temptation!

Points to note

 

1. The VFR somehow seems to have it bars quite far out as compared to the blackbird and STs. I already hand very long hands(as I still cannot find anyone who is a length from shoulder blade to middle finger tip that is longer than my!)

 

2. i guess maybe the next change would be 2006. I hope later so I can finish payin my and get the next version! hahaha

 

3. well machine price is much SGD19,918.10. Works out to be 23,800 OTR. For non-ABS, probably minus $2k

 

 

Just saw a VFR at Loois.

 

1. 2nd hand

2. mileage is only 4k+ (its a FW plate!)

3. no ABS4. it is sold 2 days just after is saw it!!

 

 

Can't for another VFR rider in! heheh

[Guest koma]

hi guys juz happened to c tis thread,wah so fast 4 page liao ah im also a owner of a vfr vtec n its been my dream bike since i 1st saw it near tuas~~~~ only 1 tin 2 say.... i it!!!!

 

1)handling is as like hamsetrz says abit sluggish below 20km/h(but how often do we get to do tis speed rite )

 

2)fuel economy is ok juz like my old rvf(the preference for v-engines )bout 18-19km/L on average singapore travellin. if open vtec bout 15-16km/L.

 

3)touring capability is great~!! did a trip 2 koh samui to n back 3000km n my ass still has feeling.did a offroad route 2 with some of my GS frens at deasru

 

4)mine clocked 259km/h once(maybe got abit of tailwind ) but last week could onli clock 243km/h tink time 2 go do valve clearance liao cause the distinctive click click sound of the shims come liao

 

5)wheelies as in the pic hamsterz posted...no prob at all!!! me also tried once

 

6)cornering ability juz like sports bike if u r used to the slighty higher n upright position

 

7)heat problems-yes it does heat up quick fast in jams but can be overcomed by intsallin a manual fan switch.

 

8)electrical problems- the 2002 versions in us hav been recalled to change their rectifiers n subframes dun knoe if it applies to the european models that we mainly have in singapore. the 2003-2004 dun hab these problems so hamsterz 1s no worry but not my 2002 vfr

 

9)power wise nice n progressive but theres a flat spot round 4200-4500rpm but can be easily solved by the use of oxygen eliminators(O2 sensors ). adding a power commander would be best as it will slow out the torque n power.

 

10)exhaust sound some ppl say 2 sharp liao dun hab the deep growlin sound of cls2 bikes but again can be solved juz by a super simple mod i learned from the net n test proven (am i rite cheeko )

 

11)aftermarket mods quite alot but depends on own needs n usage of the bike

eg. track-goers go for power commanders,suspensions etc

eg. tourers go for high windshields,aftermarket comfortable seats etc

 

12)piece of advise dump the mez4 on the bike best after ur run in, they suck.

BT020 would be a good everyday use n touring tyre

rite now i testin out the new Bt014s so far handling is great

prilleli Diablos r are very highyly rated for tis bike

 

13)best 2 get a rear hugger to protect ur suspension from rust n dirt. get NWS exact fit for vfr unlike stories told by US owners of the powerbronze 1s where the fitting is abit off or they hav to modify the hugger to fit the bike

 

14)get a manaul fan switch installed *IMPORTANT*

will try out installing a fan on the rectifier n c hows the results

 

15)lastly its a great all in 1 bike,juz my 2 cents nearly bought a fazer1 cause couldnt find a 2nd hand 1. was quite lucky to find a 8mths old bike with onli less than 8000km on it.

 

tink tis will be my last bike so will be heavily modding it so next owner who takes over will be gettin a gd deal

[Guest cheeko]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 26 2004, 02:04 AM

my ST... super heavy and cumbersome... mi nowadays try not to ride it so much... coz too heavy too big.... cun squeeze traffic.. peak hours stay in doors... sianz.. last time go market packet lunch also ride bike.. now... mi juz walk....

 

hehehee.. it got good touring capabilties.. went cameron.. 1st time gf nvr complain bckside pain... but itz good onli for straight long roads and gentle bends....

 

up n down cameron highlands.. mi curse n swear.... slowest and the last... cun pick up fast enuf... cun brake fast enuf... cun manuvere fast enuf.... well.... like i always say.. old man's bike....

 

but itz not a bad ride lahh... smooth and quiet..... dun nid to lube chain.... but well compare to VFR... itz another class.... cheekozer was at the trip... 1st time travel wif VFR..... realli bow over by itz capabilities......

 

a must buy~!~!~!~!

Eeer.....mr ashenz, i have a request, maybe someday can i exchange my vfr with ur bike, just wana test ride yours to get a feel of the ST11. But at the moment after trying many bikes, vfr is the most comfortable, vibration free, very stable, fast & nimble for an 800cc. Quality of ride is also very good, plus dun feel tired after long distance ride.

[it wasnt me]

Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 26 2004, 02:04 AM

my ST... super heavy and cumbersome... mi nowadays try not to ride it so much... coz too heavy too big.... cun squeeze traffic.. peak hours stay in doors... sianz.. last time go market packet lunch also ride bike.. now... mi juz walk....

 

hehehee.. it got good touring capabilties.. went cameron.. 1st time gf nvr complain bckside pain... but itz good onli for straight long roads and gentle bends....

 

up n down cameron highlands.. mi curse n swear.... slowest and the last... cun pick up fast enuf... cun brake fast enuf... cun manuvere fast enuf.... well.... like i always say.. old man's bike....

 

but itz not a bad ride lahh... smooth and quiet..... dun nid to lube chain.... but well compare to VFR... itz another class.... cheekozer was at the trip... 1st time travel wif VFR..... realli bow over by itz capabilities......

 

a must buy~!~!~!~!

rider problem

[CaMiE]

Originally posted by TourXcrosS@Mar 27 2004, 12:05 PM

mayb u would like to ask here

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index.php?showforum=32

i riding it 2!

its a Sport Tourer!

 

what u 1 2 know?

its best u go over to the VFR forum & ask thos gurus.....

HI, would like to get into it too.. pls help? thankz...

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by cheekozer600@Jun 26 2004, 09:54 PM

Eeer.....mr ashenz, i have a request, maybe someday can i exchange my vfr with ur bike, just wana test ride yours to get a feel of the ST11. But at the moment after trying many bikes, vfr is the most comfortable, vibration free, very stable, fast & nimble for an 800cc. Quality of ride is also very good, plus dun feel tired after long distance ride.

hehhehehee im juz waiting for u to say this bro~~ hehehee..... dun dare to ask... scared presumptious n put u in bad spot... hehhee... since u ask liaoz.... OK~!~

 

lets exchange n try each other's bike out... mine is juz super heavy.... once on highway its like a stallion... onli super high speed (above 130kmph) n low speed den nid to watch out for corners n bends......

 

frm wot i see.... itz as fast n nimble all rounder as lots have describe it... onli on minus pt.... chain driven.. well.... wifout chain.... dun tink will hv the power needed i tink....

 

hehehe~~ so when har?? backside itchy liaoz...

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by it wasnt me@Jun 27 2004, 12:32 AM

rider problem

u again poo.....~

 

buzz off loh u fat bird...

 

hhhehee not moi style i guezz???

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by koma@Jun 26 2004, 04:07 AM

hi guys juz happened to c tis thread,wah so fast 4 page liao ah im also a owner of a vfr vtec n its been my dream bike since i 1st saw it near tuas~~~~ only 1 tin 2 say.... i it!!!!

 

1)handling is as like hamsetrz says abit sluggish below 20km/h(but how often do we get to do tis speed rite )

 

2)fuel economy is ok juz like my old rvf(the preference for v-engines )bout 18-19km/L on average singapore travellin. if open vtec bout 15-16km/L.

 

3)touring capability is great~!! did a trip 2 koh samui to n back 3000km n my ass still has feeling.did a offroad route 2 with some of my GS frens at deasru

 

4)mine clocked 259km/h once(maybe got abit of tailwind ) but last week could onli clock 243km/h tink time 2 go do valve clearance liao cause the distinctive click click sound of the shims come liao

 

5)wheelies as in the pic hamsterz posted...no prob at all!!! me also tried once

 

6)cornering ability juz like sports bike if u r used to the slighty higher n upright position

 

7)heat problems-yes it does heat up quick fast in jams but can be overcomed by intsallin a manual fan switch.

 

8)electrical problems- the 2002 versions in us hav been recalled to change their rectifiers n subframes dun knoe if it applies to the european models that we mainly have in singapore. the 2003-2004 dun hab these problems so hamsterz 1s no worry but not my 2002 vfr

 

9)power wise nice n progressive but theres a flat spot round 4200-4500rpm but can be easily solved by the use of oxygen eliminators(O2 sensors ). adding a power commander would be best as it will slow out the torque n power.

 

10)exhaust sound some ppl say 2 sharp liao dun hab the deep growlin sound of cls2 bikes but again can be solved juz by a super simple mod i learned from the net n test proven (am i rite cheeko )

 

11)aftermarket mods quite alot but depends on own needs n usage of the bike

eg. track-goers go for power commanders,suspensions etc

eg. tourers go for high windshields,aftermarket comfortable seats etc

 

12)piece of advise dump the mez4 on the bike best after ur run in, they suck.

BT020 would be a good everyday use n touring tyre

rite now i testin out the new Bt014s so far handling is great

prilleli Diablos r are very highyly rated for tis bike

 

13)best 2 get a rear hugger to protect ur suspension from rust n dirt. get NWS exact fit for vfr unlike stories told by US owners of the powerbronze 1s where the fitting is abit off or they hav to modify the hugger to fit the bike

 

14)get a manaul fan switch installed *IMPORTANT*

will try out installing a fan on the rectifier n c hows the results

 

15)lastly its a great all in 1 bike,juz my 2 cents nearly bought a fazer1 cause couldnt find a 2nd hand 1. was quite lucky to find a 8mths old bike with onli less than 8000km on it.

 

tink tis will be my last bike so will be heavily modding it so next owner who takes over will be gettin a gd deal

fwaahhh does a brand new VFR essentially nid all this mods like the O2 tingy and manual fan switch????

 

but i do agree wif the hugger and after market wind screen and maibe a aftermarket balancers??

[rhema83]

Latest Review of VFR800 from Fast Bikes Magazine

Actually bought the mag because of the detailed review on '04 GSXR600 and 750, plus a sports tourer shootout. Text in brackets is added by me to make it easier to understand. Anyway the shootout is between BMW R1100S, VFR800, Triumph Sprint ST and Ducati ST3.

 

The benchmark by which all others have been judged for over a decade, the VFR is the quintessential sports tourer. In its current guise, it remains unchanged since its launch at the end of 2001. Bristling with technology, the VFR has always had a lot to live up to, and this year it gets even more with Ducati mounting a fresh challenge with no less than two bikes both squaredly aimed at the VFR punter.

 

Honda has always managed to build into the VFR usability and neutrality, and the lastest version is no different. As with the rest of the range, the Honda is just one of those bikes that you seem to be able to just jump on and feel at home right away.

 

Hammering down the more twisty Hampshire back roads, the only bike that could stay with the VFR was the lithe Ducati (ST3), as the frumpy Triumph (Sprint ST) wallowed some way behind and the bulbous Beemer (R1100S) was left wobbling from side to side at the traffic lights - in Kent (way further back).

 

While the handling is still nowhere near in the same league as a dedicated sports bike, it steers very well and turns into corners with little effort, and plenty of feedback right up to the point of the footrests calling time as they prematurely hit the deck. Clearance is pretty poor, and even in fairly shitty conditions the hero blobs (the ball of metal underneath the foot rest) can be scraped with plenty of grip left to spare. Despite the ultra-usable and neutral nature of the Honda, there are still a few idiosyncrasies to adjust to.

 

The V-TEC system has found its way onto the bike, and takes a little time to get used to. The power surges above 7000rpm as the engine switches from eight to all sixteen valves making a weird mechanical drilling noise as it does so. Strange as it is, it never really threatens to ruin the riding experience, but it does make you wonder just how the money spent developing the system could have been spent on something else, like the gearbox perhaps...

 

The linked brakes CBS also take a little getting used to, as does the anti-locking brake system ABS that came as an optional extra on our test bike. The CBS system applies front and rear brakes at the same time, no matter which lever you decide to use. It's done proportionally through a cleverly named "proportioning valve" to apply a little rear brake when the front lever is squeezed, and vice versa. What this would be like trying to negotiate a turn in an icy carpark, doesn't really bear thinking about. On dry roads it isn't all that bad, it just takes away a little bit of rider choice, and for me that's never a good thing.

 

The ABS system works very well it has to be said. For those of you who drive a car with ABS, you'll no doubt have felt the thumping through the brake pedal when it kicks in. Unlike the BMW, the VFR doesn't share this trait so you're not robbed of too much feel. In all honesty though, I'd still prefer to use my own judgement should I find myself in a situation that warranted such drastic measures.

 

The Honda build quality that us testers always seem to be muttering on about is also apparent, particularly in this sort of company. Sure the BMW is solid enough, but cast a careful eye over the Triumph or the Ducati and you'll come up with more than a few reasons why you would choose the Honda, and I've no doubt that this sells as many Hondas to the masses, as their race success does to the sports riders.

 

In the last analysis, the VFR was the bike I wanted to ride most of the time. Be it motorway, A-road or back road, the Honda is the Jack-of-all-trades. While it may be the master of none, it still has enough all-round ability, and a quality feel, to embarrass every other bike on this test in one way or another.

 

Technical Highlights

Putting the "V" into VFR is the Honda's long-serving V4 motor. Once Honda rectified the early "chocolate cam" and elastic cam chain problems, the motor became synonymous with reliability. Ironically the latest incarnation has seen the cam gears replaced by a chain again in a bid to lose weight and reduce internal losses. Then of course, there's the V-TEC system first used on the CRX sports hatch.

Basically at low revs, only two-valves-per-cylinder operate, apparently to improve low-down torque. Above 7000rpm, oil pressure forces a pin to lock a rocker arm, which then brings all four valves into operation, for top end performance. Like its big brother, the CBR1100XX, the VFR also uses Honda's Combined Braking System CBS, with an option of Anti Locking Brakes ABS should you feel that you lack finesse, ability and are desperately in need of help.

The suspension isn't fully adjustable, though Honda has quite thoughtfully fitted an easy-to-reach preload knob (ABS model only), for quick and easy adjustments to cater for pillion and luggage.

 

Vital Statistics

Engine = 781cc, 16-valve, liquid cooled, V4

Bore x Strole = 72 x 48mm

Compression = 11.6:1

Fuelling = Electronic fuel injection

Tested Power = 96bhp @ 10500rpm

Tested Torque = 72Nm @ 9000rpm

Frame = Aluminium twin spar

Front Susp = 43mm forks (adj preload)

Rear Susp = Monoshock (adj preload and rebound)

Front Brakes = 3-piston calipers with CBS and ABS, 296mm discs

Rear Brakes = 3-piston caliper with CBS and ABS, 256mm disc

Wheelbase = 1460mm

Seat Height = 805mm

Dry Weight = 213kg

Fuel Capacity = 22L

Price = $24300 OTR (UK current price, pretty close to SGP)

 

Test Statistics

(Uncommon to see such "sports performance" test results for sports tourers)

0 - terminal = 44.24s

0 - 60mph (96.56kph) = 4.15s

0 - 140 (225.31) = 26.11s

60 (96.56) - 120 (193.12) = 8.90s

Standing Quarter-Mile (402.34m) = 12.41 @ 118.50mph (190.71kph)

6th gear roll-on 60 (96.56) - 140 (225.31) = 29.31s

Top speed = 146.91mph (236.43kph)

0 - terminal detailed data

Time (s) - Speed (kph)

0 - 0

5 - 112.54

10 - 173.58

15 - 201.89

20 - 216.99

25 - 223.94

30 - 229.44

35 - 233.02

40 - 235.03

44.24 - 236.43

 

VFR was rated first by the chief tester, and runner-up (after Ducati ST3) by the deputy.

 

From the dyno charts, VFR has the most linear, smoothest power delivery (no dips before peak) except for the surge right after 6800rpm. The torque dips from 3500rpm to 4500rpm. There is a jump between 6800rpm and 7200rpm. Power figures are good and the charts show that this bike is meant to be revved. The torque figures cannot match the litre-class competitors but is enough to pull wheelies at will (according to another review, at 8000rpm on the first couple of gears, the front wheel simply rises automatically).

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Guys sorry to off topic, anyone seen any second hand 02 VFR selling at bike shops or know anyone selling theirs, pm me. I am interested.

[ashenZ]

ehh none~!~~ take a que~!~!!~ hhehehehee... gotta line-up for ur dream bike like everyone else~~!~! hehehee~~

 

hard to find 2nd hand in the bike shops.... u dun see much on the road in the 1st place siah.....

[ashenZ]

Originally posted by rhema83@Jun 27 2004, 04:18 PM

Latest Review of VFR800 from Fast Bikes Magazine

Actually bought the mag because of the detailed review on '04 GSXR600 and 750, plus a sports tourer shootout. Text in brackets is added by me to make it easier to understand. Anyway the shootout is between BMW R1100S, VFR800, Triumph Sprint ST and Ducati ST3.

 

The benchmark by which all others have been judged for over a decade, the VFR is the quintessential sports tourer. In its current guise, it remains unchanged since its launch at the end of 2001. Bristling with technology, the VFR has always had a lot to live up to, and this year it gets even more with Ducati mounting a fresh challenge with no less than two bikes both squaredly aimed at the VFR punter.

 

Honda has always managed to build into the VFR usability and neutrality, and the lastest version is no different. As with the rest of the range, the Honda is just one of those bikes that you seem to be able to just jump on and feel at home right away.

 

Hammering down the more twisty Hampshire back roads, the only bike that could stay with the VFR was the lithe Ducati (ST3), as the frumpy Triumph (Sprint ST) wallowed some way behind and the bulbous Beemer (R1100S) was left wobbling from side to side at the traffic lights - in Kent (way further back).

 

While the handling is still nowhere near in the same league as a dedicated sports bike, it steers very well and turns into corners with little effort, and plenty of feedback right up to the point of the footrests calling time as they prematurely hit the deck. Clearance is pretty poor, and even in fairly shitty conditions the hero blobs (the ball of metal underneath the foot rest) can be scraped with plenty of grip left to spare. Despite the ultra-usable and neutral nature of the Honda, there are still a few idiosyncrasies to adjust to.

 

The V-TEC system has found its way onto the bike, and takes a little time to get used to. The power surges above 7000rpm as the engine switches from eight to all sixteen valves making a weird mechanical drilling noise as it does so. Strange as it is, it never really threatens to ruin the riding experience, but it does make you wonder just how the money spent developing the system could have been spent on something else, like the gearbox perhaps...

 

The linked brakes CBS also take a little getting used to, as does the anti-locking brake system ABS that came as an optional extra on our test bike. The CBS system applies front and rear brakes at the same time, no matter which lever you decide to use. It's done proportionally through a cleverly named "proportioning valve" to apply a little rear brake when the front lever is squeezed, and vice versa. What this would be like trying to negotiate a turn in an icy carpark, doesn't really bear thinking about. On dry roads it isn't all that bad, it just takes away a little bit of rider choice, and for me that's never a good thing.

 

The ABS system works very well it has to be said. For those of you who drive a car with ABS, you'll no doubt have felt the thumping through the brake pedal when it kicks in. Unlike the BMW, the VFR doesn't share this trait so you're not robbed of too much feel. In all honesty though, I'd still prefer to use my own judgement should I find myself in a situation that warranted such drastic measures.

 

The Honda build quality that us testers always seem to be muttering on about is also apparent, particularly in this sort of company. Sure the BMW is solid enough, but cast a careful eye over the Triumph or the Ducati and you'll come up with more than a few reasons why you would choose the Honda, and I've no doubt that this sells as many Hondas to the masses, as their race success does to the sports riders.

 

In the last analysis, the VFR was the bike I wanted to ride most of the time. Be it motorway, A-road or back road, the Honda is the Jack-of-all-trades. While it may be the master of none, it still has enough all-round ability, and a quality feel, to embarrass every other bike on this test in one way or another.

 

Technical Highlights

Putting the "V" into VFR is the Honda's long-serving V4 motor. Once Honda rectified the early "chocolate cam" and elastic cam chain problems, the motor became synonymous with reliability. Ironically the latest incarnation has seen the cam gears replaced by a chain again in a bid to lose weight and reduce internal losses. Then of course, there's the V-TEC system first used on the CRX sports hatch.

Basically at low revs, only two-valves-per-cylinder operate, apparently to improve low-down torque. Above 7000rpm, oil pressure forces a pin to lock a rocker arm, which then brings all four valves into operation, for top end performance. Like its big brother, the CBR1100XX, the VFR also uses Honda's Combined Braking System CBS, with an option of Anti Locking Brakes ABS should you feel that you lack finesse, ability and are desperately in need of help.

The suspension isn't fully adjustable, though Honda has quite thoughtfully fitted an easy-to-reach preload knob (ABS model only), for quick and easy adjustments to cater for pillion and luggage.

 

Vital Statistics

Engine = 781cc, 16-valve, liquid cooled, V4

Bore x Strole = 72 x 48mm

Compression = 11.6:1

Fuelling = Electronic fuel injection

Tested Power = 96bhp @ 10500rpm

Tested Torque = 72Nm @ 9000rpm

Frame = Aluminium twin spar

Front Susp = 43mm forks (adj preload)

Rear Susp = Monoshock (adj preload and rebound)

Front Brakes = 3-piston calipers with CBS and ABS, 296mm discs

Rear Brakes = 3-piston caliper with CBS and ABS, 256mm disc

Wheelbase = 1460mm

Seat Height = 805mm

Dry Weight = 213kg

Fuel Capacity = 22L

Price = $24300 OTR (UK current price, pretty close to SGP)

 

Test Statistics

(Uncommon to see such "sports performance" test results for sports tourers)

0 - terminal = 44.24s

0 - 60mph (96.56kph) = 4.15s

0 - 140 (225.31) = 26.11s

60 (96.56) - 120 (193.12) = 8.90s

Standing Quarter-Mile (402.34m) = 12.41 @ 118.50mph (190.71kph)

6th gear roll-on 60 (96.56) - 140 (225.31) = 29.31s

Top speed = 146.91mph (236.43kph)

0 - terminal detailed data

Time (s) - Speed (kph)

0 - 0

5 - 112.54

10 - 173.58

15 - 201.89

20 - 216.99

25 - 223.94

30 - 229.44

35 - 233.02

40 - 235.03

44.24 - 236.43

 

VFR was rated first by the chief tester, and runner-up (after Ducati ST3) by the deputy.

 

From the dyno charts, VFR has the most linear, smoothest power delivery (no dips before peak) except for the surge right after 6800rpm. The torque dips from 3500rpm to 4500rpm. There is a jump between 6800rpm and 7200rpm. Power figures are good and the charts show that this bike is meant to be revved. The torque figures cannot match the litre-class competitors but is enough to pull wheelies at will (according to another review, at 8000rpm on the first couple of gears, the front wheel simply rises automatically).

i am impressed bro~!~!~! hhehehehe guess i din make the wrong choice of making VFR moi dream bike.....

 

now all i nid is lotsa $$ to burn~