VFR 800

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Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 27 2004, 08:18 PM

ehh none~!~~ take a que~!~!!~ hhehehehee... gotta line-up for ur dream bike like everyone else~~!~! hehehee~~

 

hard to find 2nd hand in the bike shops.... u dun see much on the road in the 1st place siah.....

Sigh, I missed out on MAS's deal the last time, Speedy81 isn't the version I am looking at, also can't seems to have any luck at Loois.

 

I always see a red one parked near Realty center and a Silver (rider) sending his GF off at 79 Anson Road. Do they belongs to any of the VFRers around here?

[Guest cheeko]

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Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 27 2004, 08:18 PM

ehh none~!~~ take a que~!~!!~ hhehehehee... gotta line-up for ur dream bike like everyone else~~!~! hehehee~~

Ha haha!!

 

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Sigh, I missed out on MAS's deal the last time, Speedy81 isn't the version I am looking at, also can't seems to have any luck at Loois.

 

Ok, if i ever wana sell i let u know 1st!

[Guest cheeko]

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hehehe~~ so when har?? backside itchy liaoz...

 

See how, can exchange if got any meet up or trips again soon. Gotta find those easy & straight roads

[Guest koma]

ashenz, the o2 eliminators is to clear the flat spot the vehicle has during 4000-4500rpm cause thats when the ecu plays with the air-fuel ratio so as to pass the emission tests by putting the 02 eliminators it makes the air-fuel ratio constant at 14.7 if im not wrong. the fan switch is a gd addition as the bike heats up rather quickly hope tis clears ur doubts. speedy81 bike is damm gd though is a genertan older my fren bought it im the subrider can say speedy81 5th generation vfr is the best in singapore.....jb...n some even say batam

so my quest is make mine the best 6th generation in sg

[rhema83]

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Originally posted by koma@Jun 28 2004, 03:49 AM

ashenz, the o2 eliminators is to clear the flat spot the vehicle has during 4000-4500rpm cause thats when the ecu plays with the air-fuel ratio so as to pass the emission tests by putting the 02 eliminators it makes the air-fuel ratio constant at 14.7 if im not wrong. the fan switch is a gd addition as the bike heats up rather quickly hope tis clears ur doubts. speedy81 bike is damm gd though is a genertan older my fren bought it im the subrider can say speedy81 5th generation vfr is the best in singapore.....jb...n some even say batam

so my quest is make mine the best 6th generation in sg

So the flat spot is there for the sake of passing emission tests? Can it be re-mapped for a smoother power delivery? Or are we stuck?

 

I'm gonna make mine the best 7th generation one... They better improve the heat dissipation (well, they did with the CBR1k) and do something about the flat spot, though. And I wouldn't mind a little better ground clearance for some track action .

 

BTW VFR800 is Interceptor...

[HamsterZ]

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Originally posted by rhema83@Jun 28 2004, 03:18 PM

So the flat spot is there for the sake of passing emission tests? Can it be re-mapped for a smoother power delivery? Or are we stuck?

 

I'm gonna make mine the best 7th generation one... They better improve the heat dissipation (well, they did with the CBR1k) and do something about the flat spot, though. And I wouldn't mind a little better ground clearance for some track action .

 

BTW VFR800 is Interceptor...

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VFR mapping solutions

I have looked into this in some depth. There are basically three issues :

 

1. Low throttle running

 

In closed loop operation (@ 4% up to 25% throttle position on the VTEC or when NOT in cold start mode) the ECU uses one or more oxygen sensors as a feedback loop in order to adjust the fuel mixture. This gives the name ‘closed loop’ from the closed feedback loop. The ECU uses each oxygen sensor to tune the mixture in one pair of cylinders. Normally the ECU will slowly lean the mixture for one cylinder pair, and look for the oxygen sensor showing the mixture going lean. Once this happens the ECU will start to enrichen the mixture until the oxygen sensor shows a rich mixture. The effect of this is to swing the mixture over a narrow range close to stoichiometric, typically lambda 0.98 to 1.02, which keeps the mixture close to the ideal range for the catalytic converter (14.7 : 1). The ECU will tune each cylinder pair independantly of each other.

 

In closed loop operation the ECU uses the oxygen sensor to tell if the fuel mixture is rich or lean. However, due to the characteristics of the oxygen sensor it can’t tell exactly how rich or lean, it only knows that the mixture is richer or leaner than optimum. The ECU will enrich the mixture if the oxygen sensor shows that the mixture is lean, and lean the mixture if it looks rich. The result of this is that the mixture will swing back and forward around the stoichiometric point (adjustment 20 times per sec with a swing period of approx 0.6 sec apparently).

 

Solution

 

Replace the O2 sensors with the dynaojet eliminator kit ($90) that way the bike runs to the curve Mr H intended and also doesn't get leaned in the 3-5k rev range.

 

2. Still a little hesitancy when running O2 eliminators

 

The std. Mr H curve is a little rich overall ....... while this doesn't pose a problem when running race end can and K&N running std. can and filter can cause a little rich operation in the 2 - 5k rev range.

 

Solution

 

K&N filter ........ and if you want it really good, race end cans.

 

3. Heavy kick in of the VTEC

 

The ECU won’t run in a closed feedback loop all the time, so ‘open loop’ is used to describe the operation of the ECU when the mixture is not being adjusted in this way (usually when the engine is cold or when running under high load - greater than 25% throttle ). If the throttle bodies are out of balance at all then this manifests itself in an "on/off" effect when the VTEC kicks in ........ solution, balance the throttle bodies.

 

summary below :

 

Quick Fix (the difference is dramatic, best $90 you'll spend)

 

O2 eliminators ($90)

 

Best value (only slightly noticable after prolonged steady light throttle. ....... great mod and best value for money)

 

O2 eliminators and K&N ($240)

 

Near to perfect (you won't notice at all !)

 

O2 eliminators, K&N, Race Cans ($1200)

 

Perfect (and I mean perfect)

 

O2 eliminators, K&N, Race Cans and PCIII ($2100)

 

 

still haven't had the dyno runs done but tried and tested all options ......

 

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Read this up. I hope my interpretation helps

[HamsterZ]

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Originally posted by none@Jun 27 2004, 08:49 PM

Sigh, I missed out on MAS's deal the last time, Speedy81 isn't the version I am looking at, also can't seems to have any luck at Loois.

 

I always see a red one parked near Realty center and a Silver (rider) sending his GF off at 79 Anson Road. Do they belongs to any of the VFRers around here?

You just missed a good deal at Loois motor

 

FW732 (i think) mileage is only about 4000+km(even less than my!!) Goin for 16K machine price. Rider only rode below 100kmh

 

Wao my fren saw it grabbed it. Now she is like waiting to get it officially on the road!!!!

[CaMiE]

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Originally posted by rhema83@Jun 28 2004, 03:18 PM

So the flat spot is there for the sake of passing emission tests? Can it be re-mapped for a smoother power delivery? Or are we stuck?

 

I'm gonna make mine the best 7th generation one... They better improve the heat dissipation (well, they did with the CBR1k) and do something about the flat spot, though. And I wouldn't mind a little better ground clearance for some track action .

 

BTW VFR800 is Interceptor...

yoioho... do you still want the side panniers i might b e ordering my soon

[ashenZ]

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Originally posted by HamsterZ@Jun 28 2004, 11:34 PM

You just missed a good deal at Loois motor

 

FW732 (i think) mileage is only about 4000+km(even less than my!!) Goin for 16K machine price. Rider only rode below 100kmh

 

Wao my fren saw it grabbed it. Now she is like waiting to get it officially on the road!!!!

the FW plate VFR issit the silver one at looi's dat time when u bot ur Red VFR????

 

wah rau.. cha bor ride.. when will i get mine......

[ashenZ]

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Originally posted by cheekozer600@Jun 27 2004, 11:11 PM

 

 

 

Ok, if i ever wana sell i let u know 1st!

if u wanna sell, i wanna noe 1sTT!~!@ hehehee... bio ur VFR for so long liaozz.. until cannot tahan go buy ST1100.....

[HamsterZ]

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Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 29 2004, 01:12 AM

the FW plate VFR issit the silver one at looi's dat time when u bot ur Red VFR????

 

wah rau.. cha bor ride.. when will i get mine......

erm nope... its another bike...

[none]

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Originally posted by HamsterZ@Jun 28 2004, 11:34 PM

You just missed a good deal at Loois motor

 

FW732 (i think) mileage is only about 4000+km(even less than my!!) Goin for 16K machine price. Rider only rode below 100kmh

 

Wao my fren saw it grabbed it. Now she is like waiting to get it officially on the road!!!!

 

Is it a red FW9321 VFR? I was at Loois yesterday to view the bike.

Too bad it was sold. Seriously, if it is available, I will grab the bike too (provided they do trade in), FW for 4000km+!

[none]

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Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 29 2004, 01:13 AM

if u wanna sell, i wanna noe 1sTT!~!@ hehehee... bio ur VFR for so long liaozz.. until cannot tahan go buy ST1100.....

Wau lau, if VFR is your dream bike, must wait patiently to get it mah.

How can suka suka get any replacement

[Guest koma]

haha~~~ ashenz u wait 3 more yrs i finish mod my bike until swee swee then come back frm vietnam then i sell u lor. eh hamsterz who ur fren who bought it?

bring to intro lar maybe i organise a vfr outing next fri onz?? btw as hamsterz said the 02 eliminators the best $90 u will spend on the bike to improve it quite dramatically. hamsterz ur fren wan or not? i still can add in the order for her n the hugger also. btw the k & n filter i got liao goin install it later at my mech place wan clean up my bike dam dusty n dirty cause 1mth nber clean my baby liao

[ashenZ]

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Originally posted by none@Jun 29 2004, 07:59 AM

Wau lau, if VFR is your dream bike, must wait patiently to get it mah.

How can suka suka get any replacement

coz moi old bike cannot make it liaoz....

[ashenZ]

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Originally posted by koma@Jun 29 2004, 10:23 AM

haha~~~ ashenz u wait 3 more yrs i finish mod my bike until swee swee then come back frm vietnam then i sell u lor. eh hamsterz who ur fren who bought it?

bring to intro lar maybe i organise a vfr outing next fri onz?? btw as hamsterz said the 02 eliminators the best $90 u will spend on the bike to improve it quite dramatically. hamsterz ur fren wan or not? i still can add in the order for her n the hugger also. btw the k & n filter i got liao goin install it later at my mech place wan clean up my bike dam dusty n dirty cause 1mth nber clean my baby liao

u r goin vietnam?????? hehheee.. ur bike wot color??? onli interested in black~~ hehehehee..... anyway.... 3yrs down.. mi working liaoz.. shud be able to get a new one.... probz 2006/7 model~ hehehehee hope still got black den~

 

anyway.... mi also like FJR ehh... still cun decide which one....... hope stike lottery.. get both~~ hehe~

 

wah rau... organise VFR outing... den i stay home liaoz.. moi ST cun kip up wif u ppple.... siannzzz~~

[HamsterZ]

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Originally posted by none@Jun 29 2004, 07:54 AM

Is it a red FW9321 VFR? I was at Loois yesterday to view the bike.

Too bad it was sold. Seriously, if it is available, I will grab the bike too (provided they do trade in), FW for 4000km+!

Yup .. thats the bike. I thought it was a 3 digit number? Lucky lady got the mint bike! With only 4000+km and only ran 100kmh... good deal

 

But worry is it is not ran in properly...

[HamsterZ]

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Originally posted by none@Jun 29 2004, 07:59 AM

Wau lau, if VFR is your dream bike, must wait patiently to get it mah.

How can suka suka get any replacement

yah manz... took me about 2 years and 6 mths to getting it.. arrghhhh... i can understand the painfull wait. I so many times wanted to get a another bike/ 2nd hand VFR

[HamsterZ]

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Originally posted by ashenZ@Jun 29 2004, 12:54 PM

u r goin vietnam?????? hehheee.. ur bike wot color??? onli interested in black~~ hehehehee..... anyway.... 3yrs down.. mi working liaoz.. shud be able to get a new one.... probz 2006/7 model~ hehehehee hope still got black den~

 

anyway.... mi also like FJR ehh... still cun decide which one....... hope stike lottery.. get both~~ hehe~

 

wah rau... organise VFR outing... den i stay home liaoz.. moi ST cun kip up wif u ppple.... siannzzz~~

Well i will try to organise an outing.

 

Local : maybe pitstop, or some ulu ulu place if some ppl dun like pitstop

 

Abroad : Sunday ride to mersing, twisty turns.

 

hows that?

 

Hey, ST13 was in mi next to buy list man. Its not about how low or fast you cup. Its about rider's attitude...

 

hehehe

[Guest cheeko]

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Originally posted by HamsterZ@Jun 29 2004, 10:04 PM

Well i will try to organise an outing.

 

Local : maybe pitstop, or some ulu ulu place if some ppl dun like pitstop

 

Abroad : Sunday ride to mersing, twisty turns.

 

Ride to mersing with all VFRs?!....?!! Wah!! Shiok!! Count me in if u organising!!!!

[HamsterZ]

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Originally posted by cheekozer600@Jun 29 2004, 11:59 PM

Ride to mersing with all VFRs?!....?!! Wah!! Shiok!! Count me in if u organising!!!!

hehehe no problem man.. but for now,

These are the upcoming trips to date...

 

1. 10/07/2004 - Sepang Track

2. ??/8/2004 - Mersing->Rompin and back

3. 7~9/08/2005 - Sepang Track

3. 2~5/09/2004 - 3 Nation Ride

 

Anyone interested? hehehe

[Guest koma]

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Originally posted by HamsterZ@Jun 30 2004, 01:40 AM

hehehe no problem man.. but for now,

These are the upcoming trips to date...

 

1. 10/07/2004 - Sepang Track

2. ??/8/2004 - Mersing->Rompin and back

3. 7~9/08/2005 - Sepang Track

3. 2~5/09/2004 - 3 Nation Ride

 

Anyone interested? hehehe

hehehe no problem man.. but for now,

These are the upcoming trips to date...

 

1. 10/07/2004 - Sepang Track

2. ??/8/2004 - Mersing->Rompin and back

3. 7~9/08/2005 - Sepang Track

4. 2~5/09/2004 - 3 Nation Ride (me signed up liao )

5. 10/10/04 - Sepang watch motogp~~!!

[ashenZ]

oh manzz... u guyz so free n rich... sianzz.. mi down n broke... n no time..... mi heart will be wif u guyz... although mi body will be in oh so lonely spore~~

[ashenZ]

oh manzz... u guyz so free n rich... sianzz.. mi down n broke... n no time..... mi heart will be wif u guyz... although mi body will be in oh so lonely spore~~

[Guest koma]

ashenz sign up for the 3ncr lar, then u, me n pauche got khaki ciong infront 1