Unveiled New Proton Waja

[S4 lover]

http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/waja-lancer-1.jpg

 

http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/10082010905.jpg

 

http://www.sembang-auto.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/4956555351_6c74e480e2_z.jpg

 

http://funtastickodesign.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/waja-lancer-2.jpg?w=614&h=460

 

according to a Malaysian Website...

[ahcaibiker]

wtf? bodywork looks almost identical to a mitsubishi lancer...

[MS]

wtf? bodywork looks almost identical to a mitsubishi lancer...

 

Proton cannot even make their own chassis. Publish a design competition and select the winning design as their new car's outlook like VW iScirocco and Peugeot 1007. They even have problems selling their Campro engine. The Peroduo Daihatsu engines even outsells the proton. Then Proton have to tap on the Lotus brand to promote their 'lotus tuned handling' which I believe is nothing but a farce. Lotus have nothing to do with their handling tuning. Proton just happened to own Lotus. This is my own personal view of Proton.

[Throttle]

will we see people buying this and swopping the badges just like how toyotas swop to lexus????? hhmmm

[comics00]

will we see people buying this and swopping the badges just like how toyotas swop to lexus????? hhmmm

 

New car brand - Mitsutron

Model - LancerJa...

[biting_point]

Boleh ahhhhhh!!!!

[redbeacon]

It's actually a rebadged Shiatsubishi Lancer: link. I'm totally blown away.

[hachi]

All Lancer EX owner can start to bang wall lo.... But future Waja owner happppppyyyyy

[Demon]

Proton cannot even make their own chassis.

Publish a design competition and select the winning design as their new car's outlook like VW iScirocco and Peugeot 1007. They even have problems selling their Campro engine. The Peroduo Daihatsu engines even outsells the proton.

 

To be fair to Proton, they are not the only one doing that. The same chassis is used on different manufactures to reduce R&D, and production cost. Even prestigious brand like Porsche is "guilty" of that as their Cayenne shares the same chassis as the VW Touareg. The best part is that the Prosche Cayenne is not even manufactured by Porsche

 

Then Proton have to tap on the Lotus brand to promote their 'lotus tuned handling' which I believe is nothing but a farce. Lotus have nothing to do with their handling tuning. Proton just happened to own Lotus. This is my own personal view of Proton.

 

Don't be too hard on them. Proton bought Lotus so they can conveniently use its name for Proton. It's exactly the same for Fiat STILO which has a SCHUMACHER SPECIAL version, just because FIAT owns Ferrari, and M. Schumacher was then a Ferrari driver.

 

In the commercial world, a simple re-badging exercise is the easiest, and fastest way to add premium to a product.

[MS]

To be fair to Proton, they are not the only one doing that. The same chassis is used on different manufactures to reduce R&D, and production cost. Even prestigious brand like Porsche is "guilty" of that as their Cayenne shares the same chassis as the VW Touareg. The best part is that the Prosche Cayenne is not even manufactured by Porsche. Don't be too hard on them. Proton bought Lotus so they can conveniently use its name for Proton. It's exactly the same for Fiat STILO which has a SCHUMACHER SPECIAL version, just because FIAT owns Ferrari, and M. Schumacher was then a Ferrari driver. In the commercial world, a simple re-badging exercise is the easiest, and fastest way to add premium to a product.

 

Not true bro...

Cayenne and Touareg are not the same cars even though they may share some parts. This is because they are supplied by the same supplier on some parts. Based on that and we considered the same will be extremely far fetched. Let's take a some examples:

 

1. Vehicle category: Pkw

2. Manufacturer: VOLKSWAGEN

3. model list: TOUAREG (7LA, 7L6, 7L7)

4. type : 3.6 V6 FSI

Engine capacity : 206 kW / 280 HP

displacement : 3597 ccm

model year : 03/2006 - 05/2010

KBA-Nr: 0603833, 0603AGT

country limitation: (not valid for) CDN, USA

kind of vehicle-KTYP-No : 1-19455

motor code: BHK, BHL

 

Produkt: Lenkgetriebe

 

for vehicles with servotronic steering

Hydraulic

Remanufactured Part:

For left-hand drive vehicles

without rod assembly

We recommend LEMFÖRDER Steering Components.

 

VOLKSWAGEN OE Nr

7L6 422 055 K (18.11.2009)

7L6 422 061 K (18.11.2009)

7L6 422 061 P (05.10.2005)

7L6 422 061 PX (05.04.2005)

7L6 422 061 TX (23.01.2007)

7L6 422 062 N (23.01.2007)

7L6 422 063 C (07.06.2010)

7L6 422 063 CX (07.06.2010)

 

Designation

VOLKSWAGEN :

 

TOUAREG (7LA, 7L6, 7L7)

3.2 V6 (162 kW ; 10/2002 - 11/2006)

3.2 V6 (177 kW ; 11/2004 - 11/2006)

3.6 V6 FSI (206 kW ; 03/2006 - 05/2010)

4.2 V8 (228 kW ; 12/2002 - 11/2006)

6.0 W12 (331 kW ; 03/2005 - 05/2010)

2.5 R5 TDI (128 kW ; 01/2003 - 05/2010)

3.0 V6 TDI (165 kW ; 11/2004 - 05/2010)

5.0 V10 TDI (230 kW ; 10/2002 - 05/2010)

 

 

ZF PARTS Aftermarket Nr:

2835 401

 

 

 

1. vehicle category : PkW

2. manufacturer: PORSCHE

3. model list: CAYENNE (955)

4. type : 3.6

Engine capacity : 213 kW / 290 HP

displacement : 3598 ccm

model year : 02/2007 -

KBA-Nr: 0583ABH, 0583ABK

country limitation: (not valid for) CDN, USA

kind of vehicle-KTYP-No : 1-20112

motor code: M 55.01

 

Produkt: Lenkgetriebe

 

for vehicles with servotronic steering

Hydraulic

For left-hand drive vehicles

Remanufactured Part:

without rod assembly

We recommend LEMFÖRDER Steering Components.

 

 

PORSCHE OE Nr

955 347 011 07 (30.03.2005)

955 347 011 13 (07.12.2007)

955 347 011 15 (07.12.2007)

955 347 011 17 (05.06.2009)

 

Designation:

PORSCHE :

 

CAYENNE (955)

3.2 (184 kW ; 10/2003 - )

3.2 4S (177 kW ; 08/2003 - )

S 4.5 (250 kW ; 09/2002 - )

Turbo 4.5 (331 kW ; 09/2002 - )

3.6 (213 kW ; 02/2007 - )

Turbo S 4.5 (368 kW ; 01/2004 - )

Turbo S 4.5 (383 kW ; 03/2006 - )

S 4.8 (283 kW ; 02/2007 - )

Turbo S 4.8 (368 kW ; 02/2007 - )

 

 

ZF PARTS Aftermarket Nr

2849 101

 

As seen above is the steering gear assembly of the two cars who do not share the same part number even though the design may be the same. This is because of different technical reasons as they do not share the same part. Porsche is built by Porsche using a Porsche blueprint but they employ the use of many suppliers to help make it possible yet with an attractive price tag. The VW Touareg also uses many suppliers. In the German auto industry, the usual suppliers dominate the market:

 

ZF - getriebe, kupplungsatz, stoßdämpfer, lenksysteme, fahrwerktechnic etc.

LuK - kupplungsatz, lenksysteme etc.

Bilstein - stoßdämpfer etc.

TRW - lenksysteme etc.

BOSCH - Elektrosystem, bremssystem etc.

and so on...

 

Of course there are parts which may share the same platforms like the following with the same cars as above,

 

Produkt: Kupplungs ausrücklager

 

AUDI OE Number

08D 141 165 A (17.08.2009)

PORSCHE OE Number

955.116.080.00 (17.08.2009)

VOLKSWAGEN OE Number

08D 141 165 A (17.08.2009)

 

Designation

 

AUDI :

 

Q7 (4L)

3.6 FSI (206 kW ; 08/2006 - )

PORSCHE :

 

CAYENNE (955)

3.2 (184 kW ; 10/2003 - )

S 4.5 (250 kW ; 09/2002 - )

3.6 (213 kW ; 02/2007 - )

S 4.8 (283 kW ; 02/2007 - )

GTS 4.8 (298 kW ; 10/2007 - )

VOLKSWAGEN :

 

TOUAREG (7LA, 7L6, 7L7)

3.2 V6 (162 kW ; 10/2002 - 11/2006)

3.6 V6 FSI (206 kW ; 03/2006 - 05/2010)

2.5 R5 TDI (120 kW ; 08/2003 - 05/2010)

2.5 R5 TDI (128 kW ; 01/2003 - 05/2010)

3.0 V6 TDI (165 kW ; 11/2004 - 05/2010)

 

As you see here. Platform engineering is totally different from copying. While extensive work have been placed in the development of Touareg and Cayenne, it is not the same for the mitsubishi copy Proton Waja. Even Audi and VW share the same platform engineering on many of their products, they don't copy each other.

 

Indeed, it is nonetheless commercially a brilliant move for Proton to acquire the rights to copy Mitsubishi's Lancer EX after the rejections it received from many other reowned car makers. But in the view of an engineering perspective, it is nothing but mere copy cat. So long it sells, nothing else matters.

[comics00]

So long it sells, nothing else matters.

 

Bro, u hit it rite in the heart man...

[hachi]

I am sure we shall see many wajaluntion 10 in time to come....Hugh body kit,air scope,decals and high rims....

[Demon]

I am sure we shall see many wajaluntion 10 in time to come....Hugh body kit,air scope,decals and high rims....

 

Wait till the full WTO effect kicks in, and Proton won't be having any preferential treatment, then they have to compete with more fairly with Thailand Toyotas and Hondas.

 

Malaysia spending so much money to put Lotus back into F1, naturally Proton will squeeze as much out of Lotus as they can.

 

The Lotus F1 cars look really good but can't say the same for their performance.

[ben2306]

really boleh......

guys, as long the price is affordable, sure it will grow in spore road. many think that they buy boleh cars, when servicing & spare parts just go boleh country then BOLEH BOLEH... CHEAPer.

[spikes89]

wajalution x

[S4 lover]

4B10

Specifications

 

Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, MIVEC

Displacement 1.8 L (1798 cc)

Bore 86 mm

Stroke 77.4 mm

Compression ratio 10.5:1

Fuel system ECI multiple

 

Peak power 105 kW (143 PS) at 6000 rpm

Peak torque 177 N?m (130 ft?lbf) at 4250 rpm

 

4B11

Specifications

 

Engine type Inline 4 cylinder DOHC 16v, MIVEC

Displacement 2.0 L (1998 cc)

Bore 86 mm

Stroke 86 mm

Compression ratio 10:1

Fuel system ECI multiple

 

Peak power 108-114 kW (147-155 PS) at 6000 rpm

Peak torque 198 N?m (146 ft?lbf) at 4250 rpm

[jB]

Time to sell away your Lancer Ex and Evo X as its already hideous and made even more by protons ;]

[salem77]

its the new PROTON INSPIRA guyz ............

 

http://www.protoninspira.com/

[Rain1407]

no wonder its called "Inspira".... Inspired by?

[stoner]

Another ......WAJA_LU_TION....in the making....

 

Some examples of WAJA_LU_TIONs..... *faint*

 

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/28062009018.jpg

 

http://kereta.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/picture-of-extreme-modified-proton-waja-2-500x374.jpg

 

 

 

 

How about......WAJA_BA_RU!

 

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/IMG_0326.jpg

Edited December 9, 2010 by stoner

[ben2306]

Another ......WAJA_LU_TION....in the making....

 

Some examples of WAJA_LU_TIONs..... *faint*

 

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/28062009018.jpg

 

http://kereta.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/picture-of-extreme-modified-proton-waja-2-500x374.jpg

 

 

 

 

How about......WAJA_BA_RU!

 

http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt288/sky_tokyodrifter/IMG_0326.jpg

w/o these boleh people, their country where can BOLEH? hahaha... wtf...