Best 2A Sportsbike for me?

[Kaizer]

 

I know it's a lot to ask, but really, I don't really like or know 2A bikes at all. I was planning to keep my Mito until my class 2, but COE prices have shot up to $851 that I think I simply have no choice but to either sell away my bike or scrap it, coz it's COE is ending in October! :mad:

 

So, I'm looking for suggestions for the best 2A bike that I can afford.

 

I'm looking at either a cheap G4 (GSX-R 400) or the mysterious Z4 (ZXR400).

 

What's most important to me is (in priority):

-Least problematic and plentiful spares

-Good resale

-Cornering capability

-Affordable price

-Good power (must be able to hit more than my 200km/h Mito lah...)

 

Coz this bike is just a transition and I'm not planning to get attached to it (unlike my mito ) so the money factor is kinda important.

 

I like the look of the G4, and on the other hand, I like the fact that the Z4 is kinda rare on the roads (heard some good stuff about it too).

 

I'm open to any reccomendations of ANY 2A bikes, including strokers like RS250 or NSR250 or even roadbikes that can corner good (S4 can't corner for the life of me..). I'm also interested in scamblers, but donno nuts about what's good and what's not.

 

Thanks all!

[rhema83]

BTW you put "Honda GSXR"... Should be Suzuki...

[Kaizer]

[amgm125]

I was think aprillia RS250 but spares ex.. I think the cheapest should be the Suzuki GSXr400 and also the oldest..i think. But if you wan something big(class 2 size), rare and lots of road presence get e kawa z4.

[Lion]

Honda's Fireblade not bad too... A compromise of reliability and performance. Parts are available and affordable too.

[Kaizer]

I looked around a little for the pricing of the G4, Z4 and the RS250...

 

G4 I can get for 1.5k, that's a real attractive point to consider, but I wonder if it'd be a problematic little whore, and if I'd be able to sell it away in a year's time.

 

Z4 can get at about 2.5k to 3k for a much younger plate I think, but still scared if spare parts cannot find (I know how it feels like, I ride a Mito!), plus this bike oso plagued by some rumours, maybe hard to sell?

 

RS250 I saw one thread selling at 2.5k, FN plate I think, can't remember.. A little ex, whaddya guys think of it's resale? I know the spares are expensive too...

 

I guess if the G4 ain't problematic, at least not so difficult to get spares, and if got chance to resell in one year's time, it'd be the one I'm getting lah...

 

Man I hate Shitapore so much, have to wait for a K3 for one more year man...stupid stupid stupid stupid country...

[rhema83]

G4 for $1.5k, you spend $1.5k to $2k to overhaul the bike, still cheaper than most CBR or ZXR. Some more if done by your personal trusted mech, confirm sui sui. You pay $3k for a ZXR or $4k+ for CBR still dunno what need to be serviced. In the end might spend well over $4k. Might as well do up a G4.

[GhostRider17]

buy RVF bike will not regret , it gave u power n handling... :cheer:

[redname]

u want resale value? don't go for sports bike

[Guest m0nk]

kep ya mito la..

change to a cl2 easier right

[corner]

erm... i tink shld change to 2A first instead of changing from 2B to class 2.. might not be able to take the sudden change in power, weight etc etc.....

so what if lose alot of money!!!!! better than losing more in the future right?!? :thumb:

[DESMOSEDICI]

Originally posted by FR3E@Apr 10 2004, 12:46 PM

kep ya mito la..

change to a cl2 easier right

bro ar.. diff leh.. gotta fork out 800+ for coe alone.. man.. kinda hard.. he has the same prob with mi.. riding mito.. coe ending.. mayb lan lan gotta change 2a asap.. im looking at pgm4 or rvf.. both ard the same value for fp plate.. the resale is high coz honda bike reliable.. now i buy fp platers 7k in 2yrs might b able to sell for 5k.. hopefully..

[Lion]

Sticking to Honda's 2A sportsbike should be ideal....Reason's are they are much more reliable, affordable in terms of maintainance and parts, good resale value and is compromised btw power/performance and reliability. Just my 2 cents worth.

[168kmh]

Get the G4 .... :cheer:

 

not all G4 r problematic little whore..........(careful with ur languge )

 

not all bikes r problem free ........

 

my g4 NEVER fail me ....

 

once i even hpoe that it is not so powerful ....

[168kmh]

lets say if u buy g4 (1.5k ) u spent 1.5 k reparing it ... = 3k ....sell also can get 1.5k .....

 

 

if u buy some bikes that cost 8 k ....maybe spent $500 repairing it ....= 8.5k ....

 

 

one year later u sell it .....which bikes makes u loose more money ......

 

 

 

my G4 never fails me :cheer:

[168kmh]

can anyone tells me what the problem with G4????

 

 

 

I often heard that it is a problematic bike but nobody say where the problem with G4 .....rumors ... ...

[Kaizer]

Originally posted by corner@Apr 10 2004, 12:57 PM

erm... i tink shld change to 2A first instead of changing from 2B to class 2.. might not be able to take the sudden change in power, weight etc etc.....

so what if lose alot of money!!!!! better than losing more in the future right?!? :thumb:

oh i wouldn't worry about me being able to handle a cl2 machine..

 

and no, im not trying to sound yaya or macam-real or stuff like that, i've got off-the-record experience for quite a long time already.

[Kaizer]

Originally posted by Aprilia_Y2K@Apr 10 2004, 12:58 PM

bro ar.. diff leh.. gotta fork out 800+ for coe alone.. man.. kinda hard.. he has the same prob with mi.. riding mito.. coe ending.. mayb lan lan gotta change 2a asap.. im looking at pgm4 or rvf.. both ard the same value for fp plate.. the resale is high coz honda bike reliable.. now i buy fp platers 7k in 2yrs might b able to sell for 5k.. hopefully..

Zac ah, I think you misinterpreted something.

 

if we wanna renew coe, it's not 851, it should be half of that, around 425 i guess. it's called the PQP or something like that.

 

i think there's also an option to renew for 5 years, but after that confirm have to scrap already, no choice to renew.

 

so there's still room for considering to keep our mitos bro, but still very unsure. the spare parts problem for our bikes is really eating into me man, bloody du lan sometimes..

 

not all G4 r problematic little whore..........(careful with ur languge )

haha wah lau i hope you don't find that offensive bro, it's kinda witty humour lah, like spin-city kinda humour..

 

anyway it's nice to hear feedback from you about how unproblematic a G4 can be, I hope more people can contribute.

 

And to all those whom have contributed, thanks a lot, I really appreciate it!

[Kaizer]

Ah, here it is:

 

By rxzster, from http://www.singaporebikes.com/forum/index....ic=37181&st=30&

Dude, if u want to renew COE the price is based on wat they call they Prevailing Quota Premium, PQP for short.

 

What this means tat the price is derived from the average of the last 3 mth's COE prices.

 

The PQP now is $247. But this will rise by the end of April cos of the new highs m/cycle COE prices are reaching.

 

So my take is tat COE prices will go up in the next few mths n because of tat the renewal price will go up too.

 

If yer COE expires in da next few mths u might want to consider whther now is a good time to renew or u want to wait n pray for it to start dropping.

 

But remember tat once yer COE expires and u have not renewed tat is it. It cannot be renewd anymore n vehicle must be scrapped.

 

Another alternative if the PQP escalates too much is to renew for just 5 years n the PQP will be halved. But then yer bike will have to be scrapped aftter the 5th year. No more renewals allowed.

 

COE Prices

 

I think we still have an option to keep the bike, I guess now it's time to think whether this bike is worth keeping. I do crazy stuff with this bike, like wheelies, rolling endos and burnouts, corners, and spare parts are not easy to come by, man, like what's happening to me NOW... still thinking if i'd be better off with a bike that has got more spares ready on hand...

[Kaizer]

So far the G4 looks promising, I wonder in a year's time, will there still be people who wanna buy a 2nd hand G4?

 

and G4 guys, how abundant are G4 spares, really? like just 3-4 shops (like mito), or readily available at any self-respecting motorshop?

 

and for example, how much does a 2nd hand front rim cost for a G4?

 

man, shitapore really should raise 2A to 600cc man..

[Kaizer]

Originally posted by redname@Apr 10 2004, 12:30 PM

u want resale value? don't go for sports bike

yah i'm open to road bikes too, just donno what bikes out there that can corner well and isn't a sportsbike!

 

the only one i can think of is the Hornet250, but that's a 4-stroker, power almost the same as my mito, dowann ah...

[Kaizer]

Originally posted by Aprilia_Y2K@Apr 10 2004, 12:58 PM

bro ar.. diff leh.. gotta fork out 800+ for coe alone.. man.. kinda hard.. he has the same prob with mi.. riding mito.. coe ending.. mayb lan lan gotta change 2a asap.. im looking at pgm4 or rvf.. both ard the same value for fp plate.. the resale is high coz honda bike reliable.. now i buy fp platers 7k in 2yrs might b able to sell for 5k.. hopefully..

PGMIV got value ah? i tot PGMIV was worse off than the mito? in terms of spare parts, resale, etc etc.

 

but that's just what I *think*, never really looked into it though..

[dyerfix]

i think the problem people say about G4 is because of its age....any bike after some ageing will surely have problems...rite or not...but its a suzuki...its parts are cheaper than those continental bikes...just like people say mito problem bike...but there are still mito riders out there who are happy with their bikes rite?for me....i find the G4 very fine for me...cornering ability very good i must say because of ur posture.but when u first ride it...may be a bit uncomfortable laa...due to the posture...after a while....u will know how much u like the bike...i think the sound is louder compared to cbr though..

[tealeaf]

Originally posted by 168km/h@Apr 10 2004, 05:54 PM

can anyone tells me what the problem with G4????

 

 

 

I often heard that it is a problematic bike but nobody say where the problem with G4 .....rumors ... ...

common problems with G4 is the rusty tank, overflowing carb and cdi kaput...

wirings also but this occurs to all old bikes after years of piggybackin wires... spend a few hundred to strip and rewire if necessary... if u check the garage sales, u would see alot of people looking for gsxr forks.

[168kmh]

Originally posted by tealeaf@Apr 10 2004, 07:27 PM

common problems with G4 is the rusty tank, overflowing carb and cdi kaput...

wirings also but this occurs to all old bikes after years of piggybackin wires... spend a few hundred to strip and rewire if necessary... if u check the garage sales, u would see alot of people looking for gsxr forks.

that is the same guy ......... his bike is being push over ..........