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[aH_Joe]

HOPE THE ACTICLE I POSTED SOME TIME AGO, MIGHT HELP SOME OF US IN THIS SITUTATION.

cheers and ride safely..

 

 

Seeing double on that wobble?

Tank slappers can be fatal, so here's how you can minimise danger By Zaihan Mohd Yusof

 

October 01, 2006

 

WHILE exiting a corner and accelerating hard, your front tyre hits a bump.

 

Suddenly, all hell breaks loose. Your handlebar starts to wobble uncontrollably.

 

You realise that wrestling the possessed handlebars only makes the shaking a lot worse.

 

What's going on?

 

Well, this is a classic example of a tank slapper, or headshake.

 

If you survive this scary phenomenon, it would make an excellent story to tell your mates at the coffeeshop.

 

A tank slapper usually happens when your front tyre briefly lifts off the tarmac, then regains traction outside the rear tyre's alignment.

 

When the front tyre touches the road again, it will start to bounce and deflect quickly. Unless your bike's steering geometry is able to damp-out the oscillations, the wobbling will only get stronger.

 

In some cases, your hands could be ripped off the handlebars.

 

In others, your feet could be flung off the footpegs.

 

Either way, the chances of crashing your machine are great.

 

What to do? Start praying.

 

Seriously, pray that you keep a cool head and not do something foolish like accelerating.

 

According to a race manager, accelerating increases the vibrations.

 

Said Mr Andrew Morrice, 38, from Team Mezzo (a road-racing team): 'You can get tank slappers coming out of corners or on straight roads. When it happens, you would need to ease off the throttle. With less speed and power, it will be a matter of time before the shaking becomes less violent.'

JUST DON'T PANIC

If you watch motorcycle races on TV, like The Isle of Man TT or MotoGP, you will notice that headshakes are common.

 

Yet, the talented racers don't seem to panic or crash.

 

Call it experience. Or it could just be because of the steering dampers on their race bikes.

 

Steering dampers, sometimes no bigger than a magic marker, help to take the punishing shakes from the handlebars.

 

One part of a steering damper is bolted to the bike's frame, while another is attached to the fork.

 

Dampers do all the work of damping out deflections. But they're not the final cure for tank slappers.

 

You would need to adjust the stiffness of the steering dampers to get the right amount of damping.

 

You can get a decent steering damper for as little as $400, minus the mounting kit, said Mr Shah Oli from BikeTech 21.

 

On some motorcycles, steering dampers come standard.

 

AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT

 

Said Mr Shah: 'You can't fight a tank slapper on your own, no matter how strong your hands are.

 

'A steering damper minimises the shaking, but will not stop it immediately. You would need to slow down your bike's speed.'

 

Mr Shah, 46, was one of the unfortunate souls who experienced a violent tank slapper.

 

He was riding at 200kmh at the Pasir Gudang race circuit when his throttle jammed.

 

Instinctively, he pulled hard on the brakes. But with the rear tyre still spinning and pushing, it caused the already compressed front suspension to wobble.

 

Mr Shah added: 'My handlebars went left, right, left, and that was it. I was thrown off the motorcycle and I kept sliding for about 100m. I fractured both feet and my bike was destroyed.'

 

 

 

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Dirt bikes ger slapped too

 

WHILE you may think tank slappers afflict only sport bikers, dirt bikers face the same problems, too.

 

Dirt bikes, which often travel over uneven terrain, are more likely to face some handling problems.

 

Said Mr Ong Kim Hua, president of Motorcycle Safety and Sports Club: 'Sometimes a short wheel base (the distance from the front to the rear wheel) can cause headshake. You may be able to turn faster into a corner with a shorter wheel base, but the setback is that it's easier to get a tank slapper.'

 

Having a wrong suspension set-up, bad brakes or an unbalanced wheel could also add to the problem, Mr Ong added.

 

Low tyre pressure can also cause your bike to wobble and weave.

 

Mr Ong suggests pushing slightly on the handlebars to help soften the shaking.

 

Sport Rider magazine, on the other hand, suggests keeping 'your weight forward and maintaining a relaxed grip on the bars. Let the motorcycle chassis deal with damping out the oscillations. Don't try to be a human steering damper, as you'll only make the problem worse.'

[aH_Joe]

Originally posted by WW@March 27, 2007 12:29 am

Goin to join the r1 family soon.

Getting an R107 ?

[PUNK]

WW buyin R1 07 issit

[WW]

Originally posted by @March 27, 2007 12:34 am

Getting an R107 ?

No lei, getting a older model, but is not mine. LOL

But with a lot of mod. I be the sub rider as owner not able to ride in SG. i think getting it May. but that bike can only ride in Malaysia. If kena caught by TP, comfirm will be compound.

[WW]

Originally posted by PUNK@March 27, 2007 12:34 am

WW buyin R1 07 issit

No lah, I buy k7 but not bike , the R1 bike borrow from friend. it a 00R1 but it can be on par with a stock k5 1000.

[PUNK]

Originally posted by WW@March 27, 2007 12:58 am

No lah, I buy k7 but not bike , the R1 bike borrow from friend. it a 00R1 but it can be on par with a stock k5 1000.

sure nt bro hahahaha

[WW]

 

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9991/16049693155204lyu2.jpg

[diablo_gixxer]

guys i'm thinking of buying a k2... is there any probs i shud look 4? coz i read in d earlier threads tat d k1 n k2 have some efi prob... would u consider a k2 as problematic in any sense?

[WW]

Originally posted by PUNK@March 27, 2007 12:59 am

sure nt bro hahahaha

That bike always park at unity one. you should know who R1 it belong to laio. See the mod also :lovestruck:

[shaunz]

Originally posted by kanPuaSlowRider@March 26, 2007 08:49 pm

how much does a FU 02 R1 with legal arrow full sys and pc 3 costs?

neither cheap

or expensive

[shaunz]

Originally posted by WW@March 27, 2007 01:01 am

 

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9991/16049693155204lyu2.jpg

this is M1, not R1

[aH_Joe]

Originally posted by InsanE@March 27, 2007 12:20 am

cannot be la. i ride same bike as u, go same track as u, how come i cant see yr tail light? too fast liao lah..

Bcoz u infront how to see other tail lights?

[PUNK]

Originally posted by WW@March 27, 2007 01:03 am

That bike always park at unity one. you should know who R1 it belong to laio. See the mod also :lovestruck:

i tot u buying r1 lol waitin for ur k7 lei

[aH_Joe]

Originally posted by WW@March 27, 2007 01:01 am

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/9991/16049693155204lyu2.jpg

Ini bukan R1 leh, Ini machem Motor Pocket ...

[aH_Joe]

Originally posted by kanPuaSlowRider@March 26, 2007 08:49 pm

how much does a FU 02 R1 with legal arrow full sys and pc 3 costs?

hi there,

Prices are set diff by diff owners. we respect anyone's pricing coz that is how precious their bike is to them. So if u were to check market prices here from other sales threads , i guess most will not reply u as not to offend the sellers.

If ya interested in more mods on ya bike or pricing , maybe can join us in any of our outing. Fellows riders here more than happy to ans ya Qs.

[Spectre]

hi guys

 

me new to this thread coz proud new owner of 06 R1

 

bot mine 2nd hand but need to change tyres already

 

anyone use hard or semi hard compund tyres on R1 b4?

 

any bad effects on handling?

[TyrÃl]

Originally posted by Spectre@March 27, 2007 01:34 am

hi guys

 

me new to this thread coz proud new owner of 06 R1

 

bot mine 2nd hand but need to change tyres already

 

anyone use hard or semi hard compund tyres on R1 b4?

 

any bad effects on handling?

it depends alot on how ur gonna use ur bike.

 

if mainly road, a harder compound will get u further mileage, at the expense of grip

 

n vice versa

[shaunz]

Originally posted by Spectre@March 27, 2007 01:34 am

hi guys

 

me new to this thread coz proud new owner of 06 R1

 

bot mine 2nd hand but need to change tyres already

 

anyone use hard or semi hard compund tyres on R1 b4?

 

any bad effects on handling?

welcome to the club

"enjoy" the heat coming from the y pipe

 

anyway i using semi-hard compound tyres. pirelli diablo. good enough for road use and occasional track.

no, actually i love the tyres, but too bad i heard no distributer for pirelli tyres liao

[kambing]

Originally posted by newbie`12@March 26, 2007 09:59 pm

Got big difference. Your bike becomes more torquey, easier to slide the rear, and of course.. much easier to lift the front wheel off.

 

Original sprockets are already very torquey.

but u still increase by 2 teeth..

 

thanks for the tyre recommendation..

they're super grippy now once the wax come off..

[kambing]

btw guys, be careful going up 312C at 2nd link..

today got 1 bike down there..

also got 1 stationary bike there.. think also fall..

[BLacK.dOt]

Originally posted by WW@March 27, 2007 12:01 am

Smoke flim paste over head light also mean give $$$ to SG, i just give some to them for front and rear smoke films.

how much is the fine for tinting of lamps..

[Guest yanani18&27]

Originally posted by newbie`12@March 26, 2007 10:01 pm

Correction, am not fast at all.

 

I have zero experience at all, so I don't qualify for "very fast".

sure or not.........

anyway how ure bike bro

ok already?

[bsk_R103]

Originally posted by milan@March 26, 2007 07:42 pm

roll-on got 3 kinds, one is swiss roll, the other is california hand roll. , the last one is rock n roll.

milan, u left out the jap hand roll as well

[WW]

Originally posted by BLacK.dOt@March 27, 2007 02:23 am

how much is the fine for tinting of lamps..

My fine haven come, but i think is $50 , So total i will get $100 for my front and rear.

[Lass]

Originally posted by wantonmee07@March 26, 2007 10:56 pm

gey gey la...

eh u can ask norman haha, we did go bk to e shop.

 

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MC28 hmm well tat's good enuf for daily use