Brembo calipers, Difference between real or fake if using same quality brake pad?

[mr grumpy]

Would like to know if any bros has tried the difference between real and fake brembo calipers with high end brake pads?

[Dnish]

Seriously. where do you find fake Brembo Calipers? They are probably fine, until they fail to work or lock up....

[sUuQre]

Seriously. where do you find fake Brembo Calipers? They are probably fine, until they fail to work or lock up....

 

some jb bikeshop at AGL.... they do carry them...

[Constructicon]

I wont use a cheong bike component as important as a brake assembly.

What's the point, man...

 

You wont really find out until its too late. *Touch wood*

[lutein]

Please don't mess with your brakes. Speaking from personal experience...

[DeusExMachina]

These "Brembo" calipers are probably just ordinary calipers that are "rebadged". They're probably safe to use, just that they're not what they claim to be. Unless of course the copycat actually took an original unit and duplicated it perfectly.

 

BTW, does Brembo really make calipers for kup kias?

That's another question you have to ask.

 

 

Don't worry too much about pirated vs non pirated. All these sh1t are made or assembled in China nowadays anyway.

Most of the time, real and fake.... if they're replicas.... have no difference at all.

 

But they are making a big deal out of this because of IP. Intellectual Property. Which honestly, doesn't benefit you... only the manufacturer. So I say, if the copy is similar to the real thing, then screw IP, and screw the original. Screw the system.

[Dnish]

These "Brembo" calipers are probably just ordinary calipers that are "rebadged". They're probably safe to use, just that they're not what they claim to be. Unless of course the copycat actually took an original unit and duplicated it perfectly.

 

BTW, does Brembo really make calipers for kup kias?

That's another question you have to ask.

 

 

Don't worry too much about pirated vs non pirated. All these sh1t are made or assembled in China nowadays anyway.

Most of the time, real and fake.... if they're replicas.... have no difference at all.

 

But they are making a big deal out of this because of IP. Intellectual Property. Which honestly, doesn't benefit you... only the manufacturer. So I say, if the copy is similar to the real thing, then screw IP, and screw the original. Screw the system.

 

I might agree with you if it were a fake bag, watch or jacket, your life is not dependent on them. But fake brakes? Thats too important to get fake components. Even if the real compoenents are made in China, they do go through quality control by the mfgs. Fake parts have no quality control so I think there is a huge difference. That thinking, you should just take fake medicine as well.

 

If your riding around with fake brakes, tires, suspension, let other riders know so they can steer clear of you.

[DeusExMachina]

I might agree with you if it were a fake bag, watch or jacket, your life is not dependent on them. But fake brakes? Thats too important to get fake components. Even if the real compoenents are made in China, they do go through quality control by the mfgs. Fake parts have no quality control so I think there is a huge difference. That thinking, you should just take fake medicine as well.

 

If your riding around with fake brakes, tires, suspension, let other riders know so they can steer clear of you.

 

 

If you've seen these things sold at the shops, picked them up and had a good look at them, then you'll know that they're the same kup kia brakes, merely with the Brembo logo stamped on them. Looking at the stock MiT kup kia brakes, you know what.... they're probably the same as the "Blembos". Same source. Rebadged.

 

Don't read too much into smlj QC or what. Even the stock ones aren't that great. Overly dramatic.

We're talking abt MiT kup kias here, not Superbikes.

Edited November 19, 2010 by DeusExMachina

[vyruz]

I might agree with you if it were a fake bag, watch or jacket, your life is not dependent on them. But fake brakes? Thats too important to get fake components. Even if the real compoenents are made in China, they do go through quality control by the mfgs. Fake parts have no quality control so I think there is a huge difference. That thinking, you should just take fake medicine as well.

 

Absolutely correct. I work for a MNC with exposure to the manufacturing ops in China, Thailand and Singapore, and I can assure the non-believers that quality control for a MNC isn't something that is taken lightly, regardless of where the product is actually manufactured. Brand dilution is one concern. The other is legal liability. Products made in Asia are ultimately circulated around the world, including the US. No one wants to fall foul of product liability laws there.

 

I did a review a while back of fake A* gloves vs genuine ones. They looked the same but had significant differences in function. You had to know what to look for to know the difference. Those who didn't know the difference or their effect gave the expected response of "Fake is the same as the real thing, really".

[hachi]

I am more concern about the replica caliper under heavy braking. As they do have a reputable to save guard, they can cut cost and use inferior material. There are cases caliper breakage if you search online. Even OEM ones are better why use fake ones..? Which have no control of material used???

[Lexanez]

That is why Reputable companies are trying so fervently to protect themselves through lawsuits, patents, quality assurance, etc. It is their reputation on stake here. If Brembo calipers failed in the event of proper usage and at maximum stress level, would't that gives Brembo, one of the finest makes of brake calipers a bad review?

 

Note, the world mostly focused on bad side rather than the good side of something. Thats why these companies always emphasize on their QA which is a very large component of what they are manufacturing.

 

Just imagine, Aprilla or Ducati or KTM or even BMW's motorcycle crash and burn everytime there is a heavy downpour, they would suffer greatly in terms of goodwill and reputation. Though intangible but it is through these that make or break these reputable companies.

 

Remember Leman Brothers? They enjoyed great revenue and reputability only to lose it all during the economic meltdown and everybody remembers them for that sole reason.

[Dnish]

If you've seen these things sold at the shops, picked them up and had a good look at them, then you'll know that they're the same kup kia brakes, merely with the Brembo logo stamped on them. Looking at the stock MiT kup kia brakes, you know what.... they're probably the same as the "Blembos". Same source. Rebadged.

 

Don't read too much into smlj QC or what. Even the stock ones aren't that great. Overly dramatic.

We're talking abt MiT kup kias here, not Superbikes.

 

Are you saying that the oem honda/yamaha is selling oem calipers and also selling rebranded "brembo" calipers or that someone has taken a oem/stock caliper and stuck a brembo sticker on them. I dont trust that the fake brembos are oem calipers, especially if they cost less then stock calipers. Why bother and take a chance with your life. Stock calipers may suck, but wont jam up on you or break.

 

Also, I am not comparing generic to branded. I agree that generic drugs are much cheaper and have the same effects as their branded counterparts. But fake drugs coming from China are neither branded or generic, just fake with no active/real ingredients.

 

Its just as easy to crash and die going 90 kph on a 150cc cub as on 1500 cc superbike.

[PaLmEr]

Are you saying that the oem honda/yamaha is selling oem calipers and also selling rebranded "brembo" calipers or that someone has taken a oem/stock caliper and stuck a brembo sticker on them. I dont trust that the fake brembos are oem calipers, especially if they cost less then stock calipers. Why bother and take a chance with your life. Stock calipers may suck, but wont jam up on you or break.

 

Also, I am not comparing generic to branded. I agree that generic drugs are much cheaper and have the same effects as their branded counterparts. But fake drugs coming from China are neither branded or generic, just fake with no active/real ingredients.

 

Its just as easy to crash and die going 90 kph on a 150cc cub as on 1500 cc superbike.

 

I think they were mentioning about the ones with BREMBO stamped on them

[Lim Ah Wan]

BTW, does Brembo really make calipers for kup kias?

That's another question you have to ask.

 

Cubs Can Always Use Brembo Calipers That Are Made For Bigger Bikes, For Example The Ones That Came With Super 4. All They Need Is To Make A Bracket For It.

 

Aprilia Calipers Also Can Be Used.

[mr grumpy]

Please don't mess with your brakes. Speaking from personal experience...

 

pls share ur experience

[vyruz]

pls share ur experience

 

I'm going to guess that lutein is referring to her recent spill, described here http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/302686-Gearing-Up-Are-you-ATGATT-MOTGATT-or-something-else?p=6731541&viewfull=1#post6731541.

 

I'm sure lutein will correct me if I'm wrong.

[mr grumpy]

I'm going to guess that lutein is referring to her recent spill, described here http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/302686-Gearing-Up-Are-you-ATGATT-MOTGATT-or-something-else?p=6731541&viewfull=1#post6731541.

 

I'm sure lutein will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

but doesnt exactly explain wad happened from the perspective of the brakes

[lutein]

I'm going to guess that lutein is referring to her recent spill, described here http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/302686-Gearing-Up-Are-you-ATGATT-MOTGATT-or-something-else?p=6731541&viewfull=1#post6731541.

 

I'm sure lutein will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Actually, I had another spill this week. This time I'm super sure it's not rider technique. It could be either the tyre or the brakes. I've been having issues with the brake before this so I'm going to open the calipers up to have a look.

 

but doesnt exactly explain wad happened from the perspective of the brakes

 

I'm suspecting that the brakes locked the wheel. Wheels locked - skid - good luck to you.

 

You can save on things like fancy mirrors or bling bling parts but please do not save on tyres and brakes...

[pikapika]

Actually, I had another spill this week. This time I'm super sure it's not rider technique. It could be either the tyre or the brakes. I've been having issues with the brake before this so I'm going to open the calipers up to have a look.

 

 

 

I'm suspecting that the brakes locked the wheel. Wheels locked - skid - good luck to you.

 

You can save on things like fancy mirrors or bling bling parts but please do not save on tyres and brakes...

 

Totally agree!!!!!!!!! get a decent helmet also........a gd set of tyres and brake system designed or that comes together with your bike specification is vital in situation you can never anticipate.

[DeusExMachina]

Actually, I had another spill this week. This time I'm super sure it's not rider technique. It could be either the tyre or the brakes. I've been having issues with the brake before this so I'm going to open the calipers up to have a look.

 

 

 

I'm suspecting that the brakes locked the wheel. Wheels locked - skid - good luck to you.

 

You can save on things like fancy mirrors or bling bling parts but please do not save on tyres and brakes...

 

 

But right here we're talking about your original Brembos off your Ducati, right?

[lutein]

Original Brembos also can jam up right? What's more fake Brembos.

[DeusExMachina]

Original Brembos also can jam up right? What's more fake Brembos.

 

Well, sorry to hear abt your second fall. Get well soon.

Hope you find the problem with your calipers.

 

This shows that ANY brakes can jam up. Original or otherwise.

Even my stock Nissin had one side of the calipers stuck after some use. I had to change out the O-rings in the caliper pistons.

As long as it's mechanical, there will be always be a chance that it will jam up.

[vtec88]

bro,

i got Original BREMBO from X9 scrap bike.

come with the speedo gear as well.

 

interested u can let me know at the below thread.

 

http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums/showthread.php/302475-So-Many-Different-Bike-Parts-For-Sale-!!!-gt-Listed-By-Bike-Make-Model