BMW Motorcycles

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@May 29 2005, 04:26 PM

Yes, I've heard Mr Technoflex mentioning about the Techlusion gadget. Basically you can set it to give you a richer mixture for smoother running. Generally speaking: More gas + more air = more power.

 

As for the bike running lean, is it across the range or just at a apecific window, say between 4500-5000rpm?? The reason I ask this is that some manufacturers do this on purpose. The lean spot is put there to allow the bike to pass emission regulation.

 

As to the chip, I don't know what it actually does. Do you have a site where there's a write up? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

I aint sure man.... about the lean issue across the rpms or only at specific ones in my specific case.

 

Writeup for the chip also very limited..... sheesh...... we are all perfectionist arent we ? when it comes to our machines... kekkeke

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 29 2005, 04:37 PM

I aint sure man.... about the lean issue across the rpms or only at specific ones in my specific case.

 

Writeup for the chip also very limited..... sheesh...... we are all perfectionist arent we ? when it comes to our machines... kekkeke

Passion, yes? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/99smoke.gif

 

Hey, there's always the "Butt Dyno", ride it, feels good, spot on!! No good, adjust, ride somemore........ finally got it right, time to scrap bike, buy new one..........ho!!!!!!!!

[SDR]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 29 2005, 04:14 PM

Actually SDR, that heavy fuel smell has been ard for sometime i noticed. I dunno whether the Air/Fuel mixture is properly set.

 

Can I give a check-list to the? to check on specific items? i want it to be tip-top.

I am not sure if it is gonna do with the setting as yours is injection, i just felt that it shouldnt be. Tot injection was introduced to intelligently controlling fuel/air mixture - I dont know, only experience injection on car, never on bike.

 

Checklist to any "PROFESSIONAL MECH", yes, of course. Dont compromise & insist them to re-set/do it if your machine is not properly run after service.

 

May the FORCE be with you.

FORCE them to re-do/set.

FORCE them to listern to you.

FORCE them to follow your instruction.

FORCE them to understand your are a client & not an idiot.

FORCE them to be fair to black hair & yellow skin.

FORCE them to be fair to people dont own BMW CAR or BENZ.

FORCE them to understand the SINGAPOREAN dont kill / cheat SINGAPOREAN.

FORCE them to admit they are incompetent & not bcos of your (_Y_) pipe.

FORCE yourself not to accept excuses like: "IT'S LIKE THAT ONE" , "CANNOT BE" , "YOU NEVER ASK, SO WE DONT DARE TO HELP YOU TO CHECK", "YOUR BIKE IS OLD, SO THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO" & etc...

[Suzu]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 29 2005, 02:41 PM

eh oh k! I will pass message. I tot he is keeping the bike? how come selling?

 

I am interested in getting his accessories though. LOL.

errr....... dont tink he will sell them separately cos he dont like any fuss. Rather sell the whole bike as it is.

 

Do let your fren know cos even Mr Technik endorse the bike as good value even if price is higher than those of same age

 

Basically I know my fren rides hard but he pays HARD too to get the bike tip top

[Suzu]

Originally posted by SDR@May 29 2005, 03:21 PM

(_Y_)

Hey guys, y u all use this huh

 

From my 'artistic' view, it sure looks like a butt

[Suzu]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 29 2005, 04:14 PM

Ok guys.... the Y-piece has a O2 sensor plug, which allow the standard O2 sensor to be plugged in, thats all. Cyclops, the chip thing is giving me a headache. However, i read from ADVrider that the chip enhances HP etc etc... u can slap on the chip even with the stock exhaust configuration. Read this guy's post. He claims the already stock condition of the bike is already lean... huh???

 

Read THIS

 

Actually SDR, that heavy fuel smell has been ard for sometime i noticed. I dunno whether the Air/Fuel mixture is properly set.

 

Can I give a check-list to the agent? to check on specific items? i want it to be tip-top.

Hey Gabby, from wat i know, the chip de-restrict the revs thus enabling it to rev higher n more freely

[Suzu]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@May 29 2005, 04:26 PM

As to the chip, I don't know what it actually does. Do you have a site where there's a write up? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

If I remember correctly, he uses the BB Power Chip.

 

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/bmwe.htm

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by Suzu@May 29 2005, 11:37 PM

Hey Gabby, from wat i know, the chip de-restrict the revs thus enabling it to rev higher n more freely

Hmmmm.. I hope the chip will not screw up the electronics..... thats my small worry. according to agent... the chip screwed up the whole electrical harness on somone's bike....

[GSGabes]

Boys and girls,

 

Please let me know if anyone interested in this . Then I will arrange and let individuals to plan for their leaves. Looking at somewhere in Beginning of July?

 

5 days 4 nights? Over the weekend... can break journey somewhere nice too.

 

May need a co-organiser.

 

More details to be discussed over email at a later stage.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by Suzu@May 29 2005, 11:38 PM

If I remember correctly, he uses the BB Power Chip.

 

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/bmwe.htm

Ok guys, here's my take on things. Shall we look at it from the torque point of view, afterall, its what that turns the wheel. HP can be roughly approximated to top speed but how many times do we actually go there http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/eek7.gif

So from Suzu's link for the GS1150 twin spark:

 

Stage 1

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/r15gs1nm.gif

 

Stage 2

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/r15gs1nm.gif

 

You need to get above 6K to see the improvement and from 4.5K to 6K its marginal and below that, the bike is actually more sluggish than stock for Stages 1 & 2. Do you ride at 6K and up most of the time??

 

Stage 3

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/r15gs3nm.gif

# lot of gain

# the bike reach higher top speed

# much less backfire with closed throttle

# impressive torque gain

Needed Parts:

# Premuffler w/o cat

# Endmuffler race type

# TuneUp-Eprom

 

Thats more like it, good overall gain, but definitely drinks more. And note, the exhaust needs to be fully unrestricted. Shouldn't be difficult with the removable baffles of modern pipes. Are you ok with Loud pipes?

 

Stage 4

Don't even bother.

 

So Gabes, if your're looking at this seriously, go for Stage 3 http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/lurker.gif

 

And as to whether the chip will cause harm to the wiring harness, logic says no. The more likely causes of wiring problems are shorting thru deterioration of insulation from high current, moisture, damage shielding....... The only stuffs that I see working harder are more to the mechanicals, the pumps and injectors. But working harder that does not mean that they are being unnecessarily stressed. A properly tuned engine will run smother and more efficiently and still pumps out more juice. http://jkhouw.smugmug.com/photos/15999514-Ti-2.gif

[SDR]

Originally posted by SDR@May 29 2005, 02:51 PM

...I think I finally get the setting right for Carb setting - but subject to a test ride to confirm it.

F**K, still not right

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 30 2005, 04:48 AM

5 days 4 nights? Over the weekend... can break journey somewhere nice too.

Don't think I can be away for that long, probably will have more than 1 ride this July....... how about 3D2N? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

[SDR]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 30 2005, 04:48 AM

Boys and girls,

 

Please let me know if anyone interested in this . Then I will arrange and let individuals to plan for their leaves. Looking at somewhere in Beginning of July?

 

5 days 4 nights? Over the weekend... can break journey somewhere nice too.

 

May need a co-organiser.

 

More details to be discussed over email at a later stage.

Wife and I are in. Regardless if the tuning is right. That bike just rocks, it's just a matter if she is doing DISCO (ANYHOW) or TANGO.

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by SDR@May 30 2005, 10:11 AM

F**K, still not right

"Much to learn, you still have." —Yoda

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" —Darth Vader

"Is it possible to learn this power?"

"… Not from a Jedi."

—Palpatine in an attempt to lure Anakin Skywalker to the Dark Side

"I find your lack of faith disturbing." —Darth Vader

"You can't win, but there are alternatives to fighting." —Obi-Wan Kenobi

"What a piece of junk!" —Luke Skywalker on sight of the Millennium Falcon

"We're doomed!" —C-3PO

"Go that way! You'll be malfunctioning within a day you nearsighted scrap pile." —C-3PO, as he argues with R2-D2 after crash landing on Tatooine

"You know, sometimes I amaze even myself." —Han Solo on escaping from the Death Star

"Try not! Do or do not; there is no try." —Yoda

"No … That's not true! That's impossible!" —Luke Skywalker, in response to finding out that Darth Vader is his father

"No different. Different only in your mind. You must unlearn what you have learned." —Yoda

Han Solo: "I'm going to shut everything down but the emergency power systems.

Han Solo: "Not entirely stable? Well, I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. Chewie, take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!"

"Impressive. Most impressive." —Darth Vader to his son Luke Skywalker

Han: "How are we doing?"

Luke: "The same as always."

Han: "That bad, huh?"

"You’re going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." —Obi-Wan Kenobi

Han: "Doesn't sound so bad."

 

Eh..........choose one that suits your experience right now..........kekekeke http://www.ukgser.com/forums/images/smilies/stormTrooper.gif

[Cyclop aka Sideways]

Originally posted by Suzu@May 29 2005, 11:33 PM

Hey guys, y u all use this huh

 

From my 'artistic' view, it sure looks like a butt

Nah..... THIS http://www.ukgser.com/forums/images/smilies/peach.gif is how a butt should look like.

 

You wanna see butt in motion, chk out Gabes avatar at ADVrider.

 

(_Y_) are a bracket, a capital Y and 2 dashes...... Ooi Suzu........ you Ok or not?

[SDR]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@May 30 2005, 10:28 AM

"Much to learn, you still have." —Yoda

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" —Darth Vader

"Is it possible to learn this power?"

"… Not from a Jedi."

—Palpatine in an attempt to lure Anakin Skywalker to the Dark Side

"I find your lack of faith disturbing." —Darth Vader

"You can't win, but there are alternatives to fighting." —Obi-Wan Kenobi

"What a piece of junk!" —Luke Skywalker on sight of the Millennium Falcon

"We're doomed!" —C-3PO

"Go that way! You'll be malfunctioning within a day you nearsighted scrap pile." —C-3PO, as he argues with R2-D2 after crash landing on Tatooine

"You know, sometimes I amaze even myself." —Han Solo on escaping from the Death Star

"Try not! Do or do not; there is no try." —Yoda

"No … That's not true! That's impossible!" —Luke Skywalker, in response to finding out that Darth Vader is his father

"No different. Different only in your mind. You must unlearn what you have learned." —Yoda

Han Solo: "I'm going to shut everything down but the emergency power systems.

Han Solo: "Not entirely stable? Well, I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. Chewie, take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!"

"Impressive. Most impressive." —Darth Vader to his son Luke Skywalker

Han: "How are we doing?"

Luke: "The same as always."

Han: "That bad, huh?"

"You’re going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." —Obi-Wan Kenobi

Han: "Doesn't sound so bad."

 

Eh..........choose one that suits your experience right now..........kekekeke http://www.ukgser.com/forums/images/smilies/stormTrooper.gif

hehehehe, okay, wow, spoiled with choice.

 

anyway, this bike never seem to be perfect since the day I took over, it just rocks somehow, hope some day I will able to find her "G" spot. kekekeke.

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@May 30 2005, 10:06 AM

Ok guys, here's my take on things. Shall we look at it from the torque point of view, afterall, its what that turns the wheel. HP can be roughly approximated to top speed but how many times do we actually go there http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/eek7.gif

So from Suzu's link for the GS1150 twin spark:

 

Stage 1

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/r15gs1nm.gif

 

Stage 2

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/r15gs1nm.gif

 

You need to get above 6K to see the improvement and from 4.5K to 6K its marginal and below that, the bike is actually more sluggish than stock for Stages 1 & 2. Do you ride at 6K and up most of the time??

 

Stage 3

http://home.t-online.de/home/bbpower/r15gs3nm.gif

 

 

Thats more like it, good overall gain, but definitely drinks more. And note, the exhaust needs to be fully unrestricted. Shouldn't be difficult with the removable baffles of modern pipes. Are you ok with Loud pipes?

 

Stage 4

Don't even bother.

 

So Gabes, if your're looking at this seriously, go for Stage 3 http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/lurker.gif

 

And as to whether the chip will cause harm to the wiring harness, logic says no. The more likely causes of wiring problems are shorting thru deterioration of insulation from high current, moisture, damage shielding....... The only stuffs that I see working harder are more to the mechanicals, the pumps and injectors. But working harder that does not mean that they are being unnecessarily stressed. A properly tuned engine will run smother and more efficiently and still pumps out more juice. http://jkhouw.smugmug.com/photos/15999514-Ti-2.gif

I agree with you on ur points. I dunno why the agent said so abt the harness... only moisture can affect the wiring because of old age and breakdown of the rubber and all. Wonder it can be re-wrapped? keke.

 

Hmmm... I read from a veteran in US. WHo describes having to placed the aftermarket chip involves splitting apart the motronic which gives a higher chance of the motronic failure due to moisture, dust, condensation etc etc.....

 

And the aftermarket chip is meant specifically help the bike meet emission standards in europe at at higher RPMs eg. 5-7rpm.

[PL]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@May 30 2005, 11:04 AM

Nah..... THIS http://www.ukgser.com/forums/images/smilies/peach.gif is how a butt should look like.

 

You wanna see butt in motion, chk out Gabes avatar at ADVrider.

 

(_Y_) are a bracket, a capital Y and 2 dashes...... Ooi Suzu........ you Ok or not?

The butt is very cute... eh, I mean you guys are very cute.....

 

I did my first DIY over the weekend, changed my headlamp. I'm now using PIAA Anti-Vibration Extreme White H7 lighbulb! And I did it, on my own, my way!!! muahahahahaha. Sigh.... at this rate, by the time I get to valve-clearance, think it's time to retire.

 

The trip, yeah man, don't think I can take such long leave. I'm going on a long holiday with wife in September. So, got to keep some. And plus, the club has some other rides coming up too

But I would love to go....

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by Cyclop aka "Sideways!&q@May 30 2005, 10:13 AM

Don't think I can be away for that long, probably will have more than 1 ride this July....... how about 3D2N? http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/headscratch.gif

Where else are u riding to? I'm fine with 3D2N but.. slightly rush thats all. Got to see the rest how leh.

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by SDR@May 30 2005, 10:23 AM

Wife and I are in. Regardless if the tuning is right. That bike just rocks, it's just a matter if she is doing DISCO (ANYHOW) or TANGO.

Great. How many days u looking at? Cyclops 3D2N nia....

[PL]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 30 2005, 11:41 AM

Great. How many days u looking at? Cyclops 3D2N nia....

3D2N is fine with me too...

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by PL@May 30 2005, 11:46 AM

3D2N is fine with me too...

aiyah, like that go somewhere else liao. hehehe. somewhere to relax and talk c**k.

 

suggestions? Places of desire? feedback pls.

[SDR]

Originally posted by GSGabes@May 30 2005, 11:41 AM

Great. How many days u looking at? Cyclops 3D2N nia....

No problem with me, wife will be jobless end of June, hope her jacket arrive by then. 3D2N, think you are right, too rush for TK. What about riding backroad all the way to some air-con places or seaside.

 

Yellow Bird will be most delighted, he can target to scrap his handle bar balancers.

[SDR]

Originally posted by PL@May 30 2005, 11:34 AM

The butt is very cute... eh, I mean you guys are very cute.....

 

I did my first DIY over the weekend, changed my headlamp. I'm now using PIAA Anti-Vibration Extreme White H7 lighbulb! And I did it, on my own, my way!!! muahahahahaha. Sigh.... at this rate, by the time I get to valve-clearance, think it's time to retire.

 

The trip, yeah man, don't think I can take such long leave. I'm going on a long holiday with wife in September. So, got to keep some. And plus, the club has some other rides coming up too

But I would love to go....

Don't worry lah, if you able to change air/oil filters, change engine / axle oil, plugs, batteries, cables, syn the injection, oil all cables, you are very good. as for valve clearance, just leave it to the professional.

 

Your future bike will be too compliceted or not possible to DIY. So, hv fun with the present.

[GSGabes]

Originally posted by SDR@May 30 2005, 01:42 PM

No problem with me, wife will be jobless end of June, hope her jacket arrive by then. 3D2N, think you are right, too rush for TK. What about riding backroad all the way to some air-con places or seaside.

 

Yellow Bird will be most delighted, he can target to scrap his handle bar balancers.

Air con place.... yellow bird been before.. dunno whether he interested.

 

kekeke.....

 

But u may make him gian... to scrap his helmet maybe. http://www.advrider.com/forums/images/smilies/bandit.gif http://patch29.smugmug.com/photos/16878235-Ti.gif